Supply and demand fellas. If a girl demands more money to do an IR scene and the company is able to market that scene to sell more product than usual than its probably worth it to them to pay her more. But let's get real, that only works for a really popular girls. If she's just another generic white female performer she won't sell much product whether she does IR or not so she's not worth paying a premium for. It's not much different than mainstream Hollywood choosing whether to pay big bucks to cast Tom Cruise or lot less money to cast Shia Labeouf. And some girls refusing to do IR is kinda like some actors refusing to do action/scifi/fantasy movies like Sean Penn. I like action/scifi/fantasy movies and I like IR porn scenes. Fuck the performers who don't want to do either. When times are hard those biases get dropped to make money. Notice all the Hollywood celebs now doing big budget action/scifi/fantasy movies now. Likewise most of the big name white girls are doing IR scenes now. If you do hype a performers "fist time IR" it only works for the first couple IR scenes right? Perfect example is Janine Lindemulder doing two IR scenes for Vivid. If she came back and did another now it would not be a big deal. But hey give Vivid credit for demanding she do two black guys to get their money's worth. Likewise I think Jules Jordan is getting his money's worth by having girls do IR scenes with Mandingo instead of some average dick black guy. ;-) Regardless if a girl refuses to do IR scenes or jacks up her rate too high she better be able get enough work otherwise because she is only hurting herself financially.
Absolutely. I don't know for others but if someone offers me for the same price in one hand a scene of Jenna Jameson with Mandingo ( hypothetically speaking of course ) and in another hand 5 scenes of Jenna Jameson with the white guys I will pay for that one scene with Mandingo. For me, that scene is worth more than 5 others so she should demand more money. But it's only me. You have also people who don't like IR so at the end it all depends on market demand.
you mean CREATED demand , I don't think Nina Hartley got paid more to shoot an IR scene back then , it was just a scene with a guy some other won't shoot with, which was pretty much the very same Nina did when she begun to refuse to work with Ron Jeremy. Then some people begun to pay more for that and so all started
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Posted - Jun 12 2013 : 8:53AM
There are a number of directors Siri can work with where race wouldn't be the issue, I can cite Jules Jordan and LT right off the bat. And if they haven't offered her work yet, as appears to be the case, she can mention on twitter that she'd like to work with them as a number of other girls do with other studios/directors. As for Zoe, she worked with 1 studio that specializes in bottom barrel scenes. I'm not sure why she didn't check on the kind of scenes they do before working with them, but if she had she would have been able to avoid them.
^ Zoe did only three scenes with the studio you refer to , she did other scenes for example her very first shoot was with Shorty Mac for Combat Zone , also she was with Mark Spiegler when she did those scenes , I don't think he threw her in the middle of a storm without knowing what was going on. She did them knowingly and willingly, but then she was only offered scenes as such and she didn't want to do them anymore, she also changed agency more than once, anyway after she said that she did an IR scene with Mickey Mod for Sweet Sinners , which was a passionate scene , so she stayed consistent with her claim. as for Jules not focused on race... well Once you go black you never go back series was pretty much focused on races although very far from many other productions Edited by - LCF on 6/12/2013 9:11:14 AM
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Posted - Jun 12 2013 : 9:27AM
I watched Jules IR movies and races wasn't ever mention in his movies. LCF do you ever watched any of Jules Jordan movies before?
I watched Jules IR movies and races wasn't ever mention in his movies. LCF do you ever watched any of Jules Jordan movies before?
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Once you go black you never go black has not any race reference to you? also from Jules Jordan Production I can find title such Interracial Internal Racially Motivated Black Owned Double Black Penetration and so on indeed, nothing related to races as for me I'm following his productions since Flesh Hunter , so yes I have a good knowledge of what he does , I admit and I said he never put the ruining trash , although race related his IR movies are always focused on sex
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Posted - Jun 12 2013 : 3:51PM
^ You make a good point LCF, Jules movies and his IR stuff are gonzo but not like the IR gonzo in those Hush Hush movies because the girls used the N-Word lot. I don't mind it but that just me, btw I think we are getting off track on the OP thread so let get back to the topic. So far girls who shot there 1st IR... Ava Adams (Website) Jodi Taylor Laela Pryce (BOB but is due out tomorrow) Abbey Brooks (Black Owned 4 but will be out in the fall) AJ Applegate (MM9) Chloe Chaos (I don't know who she is but she shot one for Brazzer but it will be for MILF Like it Black) Allison Moore Hopes for 2013 Kendra Lust Tasha Reign Missy Martinez Rachael Starr (Long shot but you never know) Siri (She is up for it but hope soon)
that of Laela Pryce is out or so they say in her thread as for Black Owned 4, I own that DVD , is long out it contains Brooklyn Lee's anal scene with Mandingo plus a scene with Kagney Lynn Karter and Lex and a scene with Anikka Albrite and Lex again maybe you meant Black Owned 5
Nothin yet but I can only see Kendra Lust on that list doing IR.
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Posted - Jun 13 2013 : 7:26AM
Your sarcasm aside, race isn't stressed during the scenes as it is with the bottom barrel directors. As for the titles, adult industry studios virtually always use ones that focus on the physical makeup of the movie participants, which is a practice that transcends the ones you brought up.
^ I never said Jules stressed the matter I just said it is racial related sometimes , for example Mandingo Massacre isn't even racially related , yes he is black but the main focus is his monstrous dick , which the very same topic in A Day with Danny D or in the most of Danny D's Flicks he's a white Brit though
[mod edit: rather than listing girls who won't do IR, let's stick to listing first time IR scenes. Thx.] Edited by - killbillvol69 on 6/15/2013 11:40:57 PM Edited by - Steve056 on 6/17/2013 2:20:41 PM
[mod edit: kill the commentary. Let's stick to posting first time IR scenes. Thx.] Edited by - killbillvol69 on 6/16/2013 2:11:33 AM
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Posted - Jun 16 2013 : 5:24PM
honestly, if I was a black director or producer and wanted to film ir, I would just go to Europe. you will get the most beautiful girl ever to do it without holding out for more money.
I've been looking over JJ's releases, even the ones featuring Mandingo. His size is a little intimidating, LOL, I must be honest. But I would totally do my first IR scene for Jules Jordan.
^ Great news lets make that happen soon hopefully. Jules has done a few first time interracial scenes i think I would like to see you in the next installment of the brother load series. If Jules knows you want to shoot your 1st interracial scene with him i would expect it to happen pretty soon and i can't wait to see it. [mod edit: quote removed. please do not quote the post directly above your own. just use an "up arrow". thx.] Edited by - killbillvol69 on 6/19/2013 6:22:36 PM
That of Roxy is epic , I mean are there any star who did her very first BG scene with a DP , DVP and DAP? oh right it was IR too... man that's awesome
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Posted - Jun 24 2013 : 8:01PM
There are some new girls who have there 1st IR, and they are new to porn. Natalie Moore did her 1st IR scene but too bad it with Sean Michaels for one of there Kick Ass websites. I don't understand why him and Ron Jeremy are still doing porn but they should just retired. I read some where that Noelle Easton did her 1st IR with Prince for Reality Kings. She look more like Gianna Michaels who I enjoy watching her scene.
^^^This might help..... 4/24/2013 7:04 PM Mia Malkova Official Thread wargamer wrote:But it is a perfectly legitimate request to ask her to clarify what she meant since it can be interpreted in many ways.Ill clear it up for you love np:) IR is definitly in my future, anal also! Just down the road in time, not cause I wouldnt enjoy the scenes but its just smarter if I want to make a longer career. IR is something to build up just as anal is!!! For right now im more than comfortable with bg and gg so there is noooooo rush at allllll for me:) 's Mia's promise to fans....
Beautiful Samantha Saint is about to step out above & beyond all Wicked contract stars before her & shoot her 1st on screen interracial scene with the none other than legendary porn stud Lexington Steele. Let's hope Samantha, her fans & Mr Steele himself are in for more than they bargained for as we all lay witness to a super hot display of black on white interracial sucking & fucking. Perhaps this will ignite a desire within Miss Saint to shoot IR scenes with multiple BBC's which would definitely mean seeing Sam like we're never seen her before!
Aaliyah Love has recently started doing B/G and she has said on her blog that she will definitely be doing interracial in the future so that is something to look out for. I would say it will be sometime next year before it happens.
^ Too bad it an condom and if it an IR scene then why is an white guy the scene. Maybe it should be called an IR in an half, speaking of 1st IR Mia Lelani shot her 1st IR with Prince for some upcoming Elegant Angel movie because Asa Akira is directing it. So 1st IR our Ava Adams (Website) Jodi Taylor Laela Pryce Abbey Brooks (Black Owned 5) AJ Applegate Chloe Chaos Allison Moore Samantha Saint Mia Lelani Noelle Easton (Could be the next Gianna) Ash Hollywood Hopes for 2013 Kendra Lust Tasha Reign (I have an feel she could be in Black Owned 5 because Jules is still shooting it) Missy Martinez Rachael Starr Siri Edited by - InFamous on 7/20/2013 8:37:01 AM
Nobody mentioned Presley Dawson yet , Might be very old though the male is Tyler Knight , either he came back or Presley was shooting way before her official entry this year
Still shooting? And yet it was announced in a magazine nearly 3 months ago spring time, giving the impression of a summer realease. Should've been kept a quiet until shooting has finished imo.
Baliey Blues 1st IR now this came out of nowhere but she didn't tell us but I guess she wanted to be an surprise. Edited by - InFamous on 7/28/2013 11:11:52 AM