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Posted - Jul 9 2014 : 7:58PM
^^I'd be interested to see how the percentages would change if IAFD went ahead and removed the kinds of scenes you mentioned from their calculations. I also think that Bobmarblee is right about IAFD not factoring in a lot of the web content out there. Nonetheless, it's also possible that viewers like me who watch a lot of IR get a skewed impression of how frequently some pornstars shoot IR because we're more likely to watch their IR scenes than their other shoots.
Why does it make a difference if the guy in the scene was white, asian, or black though? Most of these guys wouldn't be able to get these women in real life anyway and there probably isn't much attraction. Unless you're Manuel or the other guys who are constantly requested by the women. Edited by - primerandall on 7/9/2014 8:53:35 PM Edited by - primerandall on 7/9/2014 9:13:38 PM
I ♥ the male gaze (and Palestine). 8737 Posts 11/13
Posted - Jul 9 2014 : 9:15PM
Krystal did great work but unfortunately never generated a lot of industry or fan buzz, so I'm glad to see her name brought up.The context implies honesty. If she had said the same thing in an IR scene her words might have been for the sake of the scene. Furthermore it reinforces my view that Krystal was less a pornstar than a young woman having sex on screen, which is why I love her work. Instead of giving some sort of a coy answer about the kind of men she liked or lying for the audience, she said the truth. I like that. Edited by - misspornUSA on 7/9/2014 9:17:00 PM
Yeah, that makes sense in terms of the context. I was only asking because I've never been one to care what any of their preference in real life is as it's not as if it would make me somehow suitable because of their preference, which a lot of fans seem to do lol. As long as the scene is good, it's good.
Corinne Blake, a new very beautiful actress on LA Direct Models, she do BG, interracial, swallow, i found nothing on her on ther net, somebody has informations? thanks.
^ Brook Ultra did a scene for Bangbros (don't know if it's out yet) with a guy who is mixed is very light skinned but has a dark dick ,isn't considered black by many, here and in the industry, and sometimes they trick the girl claiming he's not black then they sell the scene as IR , or make believe it is. That is what happened to Lolly Ink
The picture has been removed , my guess is from Mimefreak's Pretty Petite yet to be released (it's in post production right now) it's her first IR and the other stars in there are Veruca James, Ashlee Graham (another first), Casey Calvert, Penny Pax and Riley Reid. Not only 6 scenes instead of the usual 4 of late but also two first and a really AWESOME CAST
Ah, yes. I'm glad it's her.... now she's someone I can get into.
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Posted - Jul 15 2014 : 4:27AM
Tbh the Lolly Ink one and this Brook Ultra scene are two totally different things imo. For a start yes Alex Jones (who did the scene with Lolly) is a proper mixed race guy and can pass for latin if he wants to...but Stallion aka "Donkey" who worked with Brook is pretty much Brian Pumper's complexion...so the female talent would have to be REALLY naive to think he isn't black. What may work in his favor is that he's from England..so he isn't "African American" so to speak....but no doubt in several of his scenes the females are yelling "big black cock"...so clearly many see him as black.
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Posted - Jul 15 2014 : 4:37AM
Anyway some new potential IR starlets on the way?AndAnd finally Holly Hudson just retweeted this..It will be interesting to see if any of them come through in the end.. :D
I was merely explaining what bobmarlee meant, I didn't see the scene myself , he said it was another Lolly Ink situation , not me , so said you are right it isn't Alex James and I really can't see how she didn't see it , assuming she actually didn't of course. But then Cuban Ramon sold himself as a black for a long while then changed his mind and now plays as Latino
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Posted - Jul 15 2014 : 9:33AM
The scene with Lolly Ink is marketed as an interracial:http://www.cduniverse.com/productinfo.asp?pid=9272267&style=ice
The Lolly Ink scene was marked as IR but on her twitter she said it was not IR and it was just a monster cock scene. I have not heard/seen any thing about Brooke saying that it is or isn't an IR scene, but you can clearly see that the guy in the scene with her is at least half black same as the Lolly Ink scene.
^ The point some are disagreeing with here is that the guy with Lolly (Alex James ) isn't considered black and more important Lolly didn't consider him black even though he is mixed , Donkey/Stallion is mixed too but he is considered black.
So everytime a white girl does her first scene with a black guy that is not explicitly labelled as "IR," is there going to be a silly debate here as to whether the guy is "really black?" Because this is getting really stupid.
^ Agreed. But it's like a revolving door with these newer posters. They keep rehashing the same old arguments from years ago. I doubt the stupidity is going to stop now.
Fantastic first timer IR trailer feat. Payton Simmons: Curvy Blonde Payton Simmons vs BBC Prince Yayshua I hope the last 2 ones are allowed. Great performance, Payton Simmons !!! Is she still active anyway !
^ apparently , in late June early July the two of them were hanging together offset (or if it was on set there are more scenes coming out they met at least twice) ,she then tweeted him she wanted a movie night , either she wanted more for him offset or wants to shoot with him , either way sooner or later we'll see her on a scene. Whatever marketing choices a star may pursue her publicly hanging out with blacks in personal life is no less damaging than doing it on screen , either fans , friends , potential customers will know it. There'll be no point in continuing a no black on screen policy. That is why I was sure Dani Daniels did something and I'm sure Brandi Love did or is going to do too something too they bot released picture with Prince out of set
Brandi love's and Dani's photos/situation aren't really that comparable when you look closely. Brandi made sure to be seen with Prince, she held the phone cam, touched his junk, and addressed the "haters" in a tweet - that looks like being desperate. Dani's photo with Prince was shot on a red carpet/outside of a restaurant type venue by a third party without Prince and Dani staging a shoot, they were casually strolling holding hands - this on the other hand shows to me at least that she didn't meant it to be something unusual worth filming like in Brandi's case.
^ You still completely miss the point , a woman who market herself as white only or makes believe this , wouldn't allow her potential customer of anything she does to think they've been mocked all the time , that it's a pose and she actually fucks blacks off-set , it doesn't matter whether you believe it or not , what DOES matter is that those customers who only follow those who don't do blacks will be gone soon after that picture is made public. Furthermore both made tweets commenting their nights or some wonderful time together , so not only she allowed a picture out but also made sure it wasn't just an event picture like AVN or so, it was an actual date , actual time spent together possibly sexual time There's no reason to do that unless it's true , to do that is even worse than doing an actual IR scene , she'll get all the bad for dating blacks and none of the money she would earn performing with them. Dani Daniels some months ago put some pictures with her and Prince and yes one was with them not knowing but another was made with them watching the camera , they had tweets very much like those between Brandi and Prince , Dani got the very same reactions , words , was called names , "troll" and "liar" the gentlest of them , and this here on ADT , it was all true But they continued their treatment until Blacked confirmed they shot some scenes together an IR showcase at that go figure. Keisha Grey was telling for weeks she did two IR scenes but Blacked wasn't online yet and she got the very same treatment as Dani. Siri was subject to the same ordeal until she broke a rule and published a picture of her and Lex against the will of the producer before the scene was published Brandi Love wrote in her blog she she actually already fucked some black guys in her swinging lifestyle and that she was open to it in porn given the right production, environment and a performer she likes and this was before Blacked went on or right when this happened , now three or four months later you find incredible she would follow her own public words? with what purpose? she already gave up all those rednecks customers (of any kind webcams, followers, features , hosting, scenes , everything) just by admitting she fucks black guys off set , not putting evidence of that .perhaps not enough for you, but certainly more than enough for them What would she gain doing this? just the pleasure of trolling YOU? Come on , Brandi could be the next bomb blowing out there
thats so stupid screwing him off screen but not then i think she is doing a publicity stunt and he is being used either way her first interracial with him would be boring because he is a great choice would be jon jon nat turner of LT
Let's admit for the sake of argument , hers is a publicity stunt , what's the target? If she doesn't do any IR scene it'll be completely wasted and counterproductive , she would get hatred from either IR fans and white supremacists. The only reason for that would be if it's true , as for the performer of choice she said she would do with someone she likes ,guessing from on her scenes she likes men her age or younger , Prince would match all requirement the others not so much, Nat might though Edited by - LCF on 7/20/2014 10:46:22 AM
^ I really stopped caring to watch Brandi since last year so she now doesn't really interest me, but her doing "stunts" like these is to make sure she throws a bone to the black/mixed consumers letting them cling on to hope that one day she and a host of others will perform ir on film. if you'll do it in a balanced way you'll optimize the size of your paying fan base. men are simple creatures who operate on basic instincts (a hot mature blond having sex) and even the kkk/confederate fans will mostly turn a blind eye if an ir act is truly out of sight out of mind. conversely the a sizable portion of black customers are itching for groundbreaking interracial even though the name is faded or shot-out after years in the biz and they without dignity will jump on it. the bottom line is Dani SHOT ir already after about 21 months after expanding to b/g, Brandi hadn't made the move and she's consistently performing for 4 YEARS now, but the best is Nikki Benz obviously who is on her 11th year (minus 3 Penthouse contract years) and still playing mind games.
^ Can't see any sense in this , her customers are as you put it kkk/confederate why would she care to black/mixed customers who aren't already buying her stuff? You say she does this in "hope, one day"...? and also "hoping" that her already established consumers would turn an blind eye to an IR scene? Seriously? she's risking to lose her market for what? hope? wait a minute there are two of them maybe it's worth it as far as I know there are no Nikki Benz pictures with blacks around nor comment on nights spent together that I know of , she merely stated she might one day , and this after COUNTLESS requests on twitter , so either she ignore those requesting and she's playing games or she reply and she's equally playing games? Is she really tricking people or just wanted to get some rest for a little while? I'm betting on the second.
^Nikki Bennz has been "campaigning" on twitter to do her first IR scene for a year and still nothing. I think if your gonna call someone an IR troll its differently her because im sure there is no one in there right mind that thinks that if she really wanted to Nikki Bennz could get a first IR scene with ANY company in the entire world but she has to go on twitter and beg Jules Jordan, Bangbros, Evil Angel or now Blacked to "give" her her first IR scene..
^^ I'm just speculating, so I'll speculate that Brandi's playing both sides - once in a while a photo with i.e. Prince to feed the interest and hope for black customers, for white segregationists it might be enough that she didn't visually "desecrate" her body with a "moolie", that blacks can't brag about once she went black she'll never come back and sentences of that sorts. might be also that her immediate family doesn't want her to publicly "stoop down" but give her a blessing for private flirting. there are examples of fathers and mothers not being happy with their daughters mingling with colored people - Stormy Daniels, Holly Halston, Sunny Lane, Taylor Rain and the disowned Alexis Ford. Edited by - rafalas on 7/20/2014 1:07:58 PM