Reviewers Recommend Big Wet Asses 34 - review by Captain Jack Director: Pat Myne Starring: Vince Karter, Zac Wild, Summer Vixen, Lilith Grace, River Lynn, Victor Ray, Tessa Thomas, Jay Romero. Read review
I'm an independent producer of amateur content and have lurked in this forum for awhile. I've read several threads concerning facials and wanted to offer what I hope is a little different perspective. First, I find it interesting that internal vaginal cumshots are essentially the only cumshot niche (some might consider internal anal also). All the other places a guy comes are lumped together. From the standpoint of the publishers I work with, non-facial external cumshots seem second-class. Unless I'm shooting for the internal niche, I always try to end scenes with a facial. Publishers seem to prefer them and they seem more likely to buy my content if it ends with a facial. I assume they prefer facials because their customer – consumers/fans - prefer them. Second, I see lots of debate about pulling out and quickly rearranging for the facial, including describing the 'on your knees, open mouth' type shot as the 'hungry bird'. I hate that shot and try hard to avoid it. I always tell my female performer she's not a target. Getting her face in front of the gun is not what I think facials are about. Facials, and more specifically in-your-mouth-and-swallow, is the only place a guy can cum where the girl can actively participate in his orgasm. She can look him in the eyes, jerk him off and use her mouth, tongue and hand to drain every ounce of cum from his body. Everywhere else – internal, external – her involvement is mostly passive. She's strictly a receiver (target), but not a participant. Third, she should view his cum in her mouth as a gift. If some of it misses her mouth, she has the opportunity to funnel it in like the gift that it is. To catch every last drop and celebrate helping him achieve the kind of orgasm that will bring him back time and time again. She actively helps him achieve the absolute finest orgasm possible; receives his gift and celebrates the achievement with him. It is something for them to enjoy together. Not a victory as if he's conquering his enemy, but a celebration of achieving something special together that neither one could accomplish separately. Something very special, something to be celebrated and savored. Finally, as a consumer/fan, I always look for the cumshot (or multiple cumshots :-). I like internal and external, but I prefer internal vaginal and cumshots on the tongue that are joyfully swallowed. If she can't enjoy it, don't do it. I like big creamy white sticky cumshots and more than once is always best.
Jaktarn yes, I have been carefully reading your posts and thank you so much for breaking it down for me - extremely helpful, and will be put to good use, I assure you. :-)
Rod, I think it depends on the market you're going for. I'm mostly a "couple's market" studio at Sweet Sinner, if you want to stick a label on it. That said, I'm not of the belief that "couples" = boring sex. I like to depict sex as raw, dirty, passionate, and diverse -- because that's what it is, after all. Just because someone is in a relationship doesn't mean they become hopelessly vanilla. In fact, I've found I have the wildest sex with someone I know and trust. The facial may be #1 with your fan base, but it appears to come second to the fans I'm speaking to and who are responding to me. They seem to prefer swallowing or internal cum shots/creampies. But some of our sensibilities do overlap. I think we can all agree that the guy jerking to pop is never a pretty sight.
The cumshot is absolutely neccessary for me. Prefereably not vaginal or anal. I agree with everything Rod said. And the absolute best is to see the cum in the mouth, and watch her swallow!
in my sex life i much much prefer cumming inside, rarely ever pull out unless im with someone really nasty and they beg for it however with porn i want to see the pop shot on here face. Feels like an anti climax with creampies or even them cumming on tits/ass Nothing better than seeing her get a facial and loving it, rubbing it on her, gurgling it, licking it swallowing it
personally i'm not really a fan, i'd rather have the guy bust in her mouth, but if they're going to cum on the girl i'd like it on her tits or ass. Ideally i'd rather the girl suck him off WHILE he's cumming so she can suck it down herself. I've only seen this twice that i can remember. Gianna did it once and another girl who's name escapes me right now. ----Dread----
Recently watched a great b/g/g scene from TeenBFF with Nicole Ray and Emma Mae. Nicole, being pounded in missionary with Emma rubbing her clit, yells a believable "don't stop" as she is about to cum. As is too often the case, the male then stops. Not because a position change was due, but because he was clearly about to cum too. Nicole is superb. She stares bemused at the guy, and wryly spells it out "don't . stop (giggles) I . am . about . to . cum . on . your . cock". The guy struggles to keep a rhythm, and eventually says "ok, lets cum together". As both begin cumming in a rare simultaneous orgasm, the guy pulls out and releases his load over Nicole's chest. Thankfully Emma continues to rub Nicole's so she manages to complete her orgasm simultaneously, albeit disappointed not to have a cock in her. It was hot, but how much hotter would it have been if they hadn't been constrained by the obligatory "money shot". Have seen simultaneous orgasms in Japanese porn (the proper deep pounding kind, not the passionless western "cream pie"), and loved them. In western porn, Nicole Ray's scene is close, but no cigar. So to Nica Noelle if you are still listening. Love what you are doing at Sweet Sinners with the realistic sex (apart from the close-ups), so please do continue the theme to realistic internal male orgasms too. Hardcore porn has been around for a long time now, it is easy to believe the guy is really cumming, as it is easy to believe cock is in pussy without close-ups.
Congrats on preparing one of the best-written posts in a while on this topic. I agree with everything written here. Also, to the person who seems fixated on a creampie video, that's fine, but that's not the same genre as the cim and swallow market that Rod describes above. I suspect a new thread should be considered to discuss creampies as that isn't really the topic here.
I guess this would be true if you have no concern at all for female orgasm. "Passive," "involvement," and "participant" might change meaning when you spare a thought for female sexual stimulation.
If the scene is one where the sex is intense, the performers are into each other, and the scene is allowed to grow organically (i.e. without a lot of obvious direction, edits, or other stops in the action), the "pop shot" can be anticlimactic, particularly if the guy is pulling out just to dump his load on the girl's back, ass, or belly -- why bother? That construct sucks all the heat out of a scene for me. However... Oral pop shots (recent example: Lisa Ann and Tommy Gunn in "Stepmother4") can be very erotic and in context for a certain type of scene. Lisa and Tommy had been going at each other like tigers for a considerable length of time when Lisa announced that she was going to make Tommy cum with her mouth. And she did. It was amazingly erotic within the context of the scene. If a scene includes titty fucking and the guy loses his load at that point, great, but to pull out of a woman's pussy or ass to jerk off on her tits seems staged. In a gonzo context where the act of ejaculating on a woman is a part of the expectation for the video, it is essential -- but it's not about the male orgasm, in my opinion, it's more about male dominance, like marking territory. Facials = yes in context creampies = yes in context oral pop shots = hell yes in context pop shots for no apparent reason = never a good idea Frankly, going back to the beginning of this pseudo-rant, if the scene is intense, I don't need to see the jizz. If it looks like the couple had a good time and I sense a conclusion with some nice afterplay, I'm good with that. Your mileage may vary.
Awesome. As a male, there is a sweet irony to me that female directors like Mason, Girlfriends Films, and yourself, are advancing a market that has been dominated by male directors with little regard to female sexuality.
Your not stupid at all, never say that. I believe as said by another member, it shows how much the woman turned the guy on during sex. Your a smart woman by asking. :)
You guys are cool!!! I like this forum. I used to be scared to come here, but now it's practically my favorite forum. Oh, by the way... Girlfriends Films IS a guy. But you're right that now that women are in "power positions" in the adult industry, the movies are changing. I think they're definitely getting more interesting and balanced and varied. I have one other question, re: the list of "acceptable" pop shots: What's a "pop shot for no reason?"
Since I put those words in a post, I'll try to answer the question. Bear in mind that "no reason" is in the eye of the beholder. What I meant was that a pop shot included for no reason other than to demonstrate that the guy had nutted is pointless. Here's an acronym: PPS - pointless pop shot. It's a pop shot I don't need to see. If I'm trying to put myself in the place of the man in a scene, I don't want him to pull out unless he's got a good reason -- when I've got my wedding tackle all up inside a nice hot, wet, quim, the last thing I'm going to do is pull it out right when I'm going over the edge. No way -- I'm going to be pushing as hard as I can and as deep as I can when I get off. Having said that, I'm not averse to a cum bath or blow bang/gang bang scenario, or a gal swallowing multiple loads. That's a different kettle of fish. But, when passion has been the main attraction of a scene I don't want to be reminded that it's just porn by having the guy pull out and blow his load just so we can be sure he has one. I've been watching porn for 40 years, which doesn't make me an expert, but I do know what I like and don't like. Your mileage may vary.
"Facials, and more specifically in-your-mouth-and-swallow, is the only place a guy can cum where the girl can actively participate in his orgasm. She can look him in the eyes, jerk him off and use her mouth, tongue and hand to drain every ounce of cum from his body." That ending would turn most one on one scenes just perfect. I've watched several scenes where there was a possibility of that ending occuring but at the end the male had to flail himself.
Julia Ann does some really intense swallow scenes in some of the movies she's done for us. And in the few b/g scenes I've personally performed in, I always swallow. I think I have a pretty good swallow scene in the upcoming "My Mother's Best Friend" starring Julia Ann and Xander Corvus. My scene partner is Danny Wylde and he gave me a huge mouthful of cum and I swallowed every drop (though a little got on my face/mouth).
Correction - she did NOT swallow, she spat it out but it looks like she swallows because she swirls it in and out of her mouth and back around the cock - very skillfully done. Actually more sensual and sexy than just swallowing. But forgive my mistake, and I hope Julia doesn't get angry at me for posting that. IT WAS AN ERROR, SORRY!
Fat bottomed girls make the rockin' world go round! 1551 Posts 5/09
Posted - May 13 2011 : 2:39AM
The pop shot is important to me, when I view porn titles with my wife. My wife likes to watch guys jerk off...not my cup of tea. Porn is a sweet fantasy for us, because we can drift into seeing ourselves as the recipients of the loving one is giving to the other. I get just as turned on, by watching a woman exhibit an orgasm, as she wiggles under someone's tongue, as watching a juicy pair of labia clinging to some guy's johnson, everytime he pulls out of her. I know, if I abstain for several days, from having sex, my "popshot" feels much better when I have a load built up inside me. Hence, if we watch a male performer blast a huge load, I know it feels much better for him, than a tiny spurt that dribbles out of him. It doesn't really matter where the cum lands, when the scene is over. While the destination is nice, we enjoy the journey getting there much more. Edited by - dogzcatcher on 5/13/2011 4:55:48 AM
+1 to both of these, especially when the woman keeps her eyes closed and withdraws her mouth slowly after the guy finishes ejaculating--it makes it look she's in an orgasmic trance. _________________________________________________________________________________
"There can never be too many beautiful women Hypnotized for our pleasure."
Wcw, I think my own personal swallow scenes (with Rocco Reed and in an upcoming one with Danny Wylde) are pretty much that - deep in mouth. Because I don't know how to do it any other way I do it like I do it at home (I have no "camera skills" so to speak.)I try to always show a little of it though so people can know it happened, for those who need proof. Hey dogcacherz thanks for the explanation about why guys like to see a big load! I always wondered about that!!! Edited by - NicaNoelle on 5/13/2011 10:33:26 AM
Nica, I must say it's really darn cool to have you participating in this thread and sharing your thoughts on a topic (swallowing) that is near and dear to my heart. It is an absolute thrill and an honour when a woman chooses to do that for the one she is with. I think it's great that you do this in your personal life. It is incredibly hot, sexy and erotic. I look for this to be captured in the videos I rent and it is really difficult to find. Most times the cum ends up being dodged, messed all over her face or spit down her front. In the past, the cum didn't even end up in her mouth. The CIM and swallow stuff seems much more recent and I for one appreciate your willingness to do this. Please keep posting about your experiences! :)
One of the best creampies I've seen was a scene with Lela Star and Mark Wood. She rode him reverse cowgirl until he came in her. It looks like it was unplanned and that's what's so hot about it and because of the position they were in, it was visibly real. The other reason for me though is that unlike most pop shots, the girl took charge of it. I care more about how the guy is brought to come than where he does it. The fact is I don't need/want to see a guy jerk himself off. If it's a facial or a swallow, let the girl suck or jerk him off until he pops. If it's an internal, let her ride him as hard as she can until he can't hold it in anymore. Wouldn't most guys prefer this anyhow? To be done in by the girl rather than having to stand there with his dick in his hand? For some reason, Julia Ann is the one of the only performers right now who gets the guy off by her own hands and mouth on a regular basis.
Big Wet Asses 34 - review by Captain Jack
Posted - Aug 16 2010 : 3:20AM
