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lindi
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9/02
Posted - Dec 23 2002 : 1:08PM
Whoops, where did I leave my virginity? I thought I knew where I lost it, but recent events have me uncertain now.

It probably started with Monica Lewinsky, and Clinton's assertion that oral sex is not sex (I had also heard young men assure me that if they received only a blowjob, it did not constitute an infidelity).

Then, more issues were raised by two interesting questions I saw posted at different websites. One was a from 40 year old lifelong lesbian, who was tired of her friends telling her that she was still a virgin. The other was posted by a young man who had only had anal sex with his girlfriend, and wanted to know if he was still a virgin.

Can one preserve one's virginity by indulging in unlimited oral and anal sex?

There are cultures where a young girl's virginity is considered 'taken' at puberty by the ceremonial use of an older woman's finger. But in our society there seems to be an actual legal definition that it involves penile penetration of a vagina.

That raises another issue - consent - whether virginity can be taken, or must be given. Another issue is completion - if a penis is inserted, but rejected without actual intercourse occurring, how does that affect the concept?

Do we get a whole bunch of virginities to use up - oral virginity, anal virginity, etcetera? What's the deal?

PornoBoy
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145 Posts
7/02
Posted - Dec 23 2002 : 1:51PM
Despite what the former President may say, it's my opinion that once a penis has been inserted into ANY orifice (vaginal, anal or even oral), the show's over...the virgin has lost her virginity. But I still get a kick out of the MTV generation still thinking their virgins because they only give blowjobs.

highlander
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54 Posts
12/02
Posted - Dec 23 2002 : 2:01PM
Hi Lindi (are u a man or woman? sorry I am new) the way of definition of a virgin is sexual intercourse between male and female, and traditionally and sometimes still is only women can be virgins, this involves a penis enters the vagina and it doesnt matter how long it last or how much of the penis has entered. Obviousely some people will interpret anal intercourse as definition of losing ones virginity, particularly a homosexual relationship, and others consider oral sex, but today men can also be considered a virgin and everything became too politcally correct.
SueR
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Under a hill of books
262 Posts
12/02
Posted - Dec 23 2002 : 9:03PM
Virginity is a religious concept used to repress sexuality, especially women's. It is an out-of-date term and should be banished from the lexicon.

If you get your hymen broken by your 10-speed, are you still a virgin? If you're sexually abused before you even learn to talk, are you a virgin? If you don't have an orgasm until you're a 32 y.o. mother of 2, are you a virgin?

lindi
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9/02
Posted - Dec 26 2002 : 11:27AM
All societies seem to have a concept of virginity, and the men that I have talked to consider it a major rite of passage for men as well as for women.

If you eliminate the word 'virginity' it would be replaced with a different word for this rite of passage.

 
astroknight All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Dec 27 2002 : 11:30AM
Hahahaha. I guess it's a good question now, and are former Felon in Chief didn't do anything to help matters. I guess I always considered losing virginity to be actual intercourse, but that might just be due to the old baseball analogy of rounding the bases. Does a blowjob count as sex? Yeah, but maybe just to a lesser degree (comparable maybe driving a bicycle down the road as to driving a car down the road?).

To consider banning the thought of virginity seems idiotic at best. Of course, anytime anybody's enough of a zealot to want to dictate how others want to live their life, rather than going on basically a live and let live basis, seems idiotic to me. People mostly seem to want to remove that which they most fear from around them.

I agree that it's a major rite of passage in many cultures. In some it's even considered fairly magical. One of the problems with AIDS speading in Africa is the large majority of blacks still go to the witch doctor for 99% of their problems (they will go to the doctor, but normally only if taken by a white person). The common witch doctor cure for AIDS is to go deflower a young virgin. Sadly, this means it's next to impossible to find a virgin over 10 years old in most areas.

Bill All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Dec 27 2002 : 7:36PM
Go check out the "TV commercials" at theTechnical Virgin website. They have some very funny commentary on this topic.
Kimi Lixx
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6/01
Posted - Jan 3 2003 : 12:01AM
I wonder a lot about virginity. I think it's much more likely to be a mental condition rather than a physical one. Sure, if your hymen is intact you can point to something (well, you could point in the mirror...) and say "there it is, proof that I haven't done ... well, something". But what about mental virginity? Isn't that special state that exists for some period of time where the person doesn't know what sex might be like, where they anticipate, wonder, and feel nervous and excited about the very idea of what sex really IS - isn't that virginity? I think for some people virginity lasts for quite a while after intercourse of several kinds may have happened. I think for some it never exists at all.
Mrs MLyons
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28 Posts
12/02
Posted - Jan 19 2003 : 4:18PM
Did I lose my virginity to a tampon?
lindi
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9/02
Posted - Feb 24 2005 : 5:22PM
Needs a bump.
myk
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367 Posts
10/02
Posted - Feb 24 2005 : 8:19PM
I agree with Kimi. Virginity is more a state of mind than a bit of flesh. Having said that, if you're using loopholes to try to be a technical virgin, you should probably rethink your strategy. God doesn't like loopholes.

Myk

Ivory
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"We all want our time in Hell."
647 Posts
8/04
Posted - Feb 24 2005 : 9:25PM
I guess the only way for a woman to know for sure is to have never engaged in any of the following:

1. Putting a tampon in.
2. Going to the gynocologist and having a pelvic exam.
3. Putting even one finger in the vagina out of curiosity.
4. Experiencing any trauma/tearing of the hymen, via playground injury (falling down on a jungle gym) or during strenuous sports (gymnastics, etc.)
5. Sucking a dick
6. Getting eaten out.
7. Experiencing any penetration, however, momentary by any object whatsoever, including, but not necessarily limited to, a penis.
8. Receiving anal sex.

prior to a penis being inserted into the vagina and thrusting ensuing.

Sure, why not? Isn't the first time for each special and memorable?
licker
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1141 Posts
8/03
Posted - Feb 25 2005 : 3:45AM
In my community it seems to apply only to the insertion of a penis in a vagina. Both males and females can be referred to as virgins. Penetration is not counted if an intact hymen remains in place.

Maybe anal sex would count, but I'd have to ask around. The topic of "anal virginity" has never come up in conversation.

One girl told me "I've lost my virginity, but I still have the box it came in".

squirtfan1
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8/04
Posted - Feb 25 2005 : 5:09AM
I had an ex-girlfriend that believed the same thing. She wanted anal sex instead of virginal sex to keep her "virginity", though she did not mind receiving oral sex with my finger penetrating her (if I recall correctly I used only two fingers). I guess I have used my fist and she can still considered herself a "virgin". This was before the Clinton era.

I guess "virginity" goes with what some posters already said that they believe if the hymen is still intact that you are still considered a "virgin". Don't mind the herpes or other STDs on their mouth or anus, since they are still consider a "virgin"

Will I always be considered a "virgin", since I am a Virgo and the "Virgin" is the symbol for a Virgo?

According to Webster Dictionary, a virgin is the following:

Main Entry: 1vir·gin
Pronunciation: 'v&r-j&n
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English, from Old French virgine, from Latin virgin-, virgo young woman, virgin
1 a : an unmarried woman devoted to religion b capitalized : VIRGO
2 a : an absolutely chaste young woman b : an unmarried girl or woman
3 capitalized : VIRGIN MARY
4 a : a person who has not had sexual intercourse b : a person who is inexperienced in a usually specified sphere of activity <a virgin in politics>
5 : a female animal that has never copulated

Main Entry: sexual intercourse
Function: noun
1 : heterosexual intercourse involving penetration of the vagina by the penis : COITUS
2 : intercourse involving genital contact between individuals other than penetration of the vagina by the penis

I guess according to the Webster Dictionary, you can have all the anal sex, oral sex, dildo penetrating sex, and fisting that you want and technically still be considered a "virgin". Sad.

Edited by - squirtfan1 on 2/25/2005 5:10:13 AM

lindi
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Posted - Feb 25 2005 : 12:16PM
 
EagleSpirit
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7/03
Posted - Feb 25 2005 : 7:49PM
Yes, we get a whole lot of virginities to use up!!!!!

First speeding ticket, first sex, first time making love, first blowjob, etc...

The ES Dictionary defines Virginity as follows:

Virginity: The first time one does something.

The virginity list is indefinate, there is so much to try and so many things to do. One should not be fixated on a single act. The first time is often the worst time.

If it's something you really wanted to do and the first time sucked, try it again!!! Correct the mistakes and keep learning. Life is all about adventure!!! Live it and don't let it pass you by!!




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