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nietzsche
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Posted - Dec 11 2007 : 7:58PM
I will be buying it piecemeal. The project will take place over several months. I don't need a very powerful machine. The only game I play is SimCity. Outside that it's youtube videos which are the biggest drain. I use a lot of RAM because I use virtual machines. I definitely want at least 500 gig hard drive. I want 2 gigs of RAM. I need the machine to be *...quiet...* I don't want shit breaking down on me, so I want a good power supply, and heat sink for the chip, good cooling fans--things like that. I don't want to spend an arm and a leg, but I'm not trying to cut any corners except on labor. I hope to be able to do this for less than $1000.
Where shall we begin? I think the case would be the most natural. That means we have to start talking about the motherboard.
AlexPanzer
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Posted - Dec 11 2007 : 8:23PM
Here is what I picked below, and I would take the disc drive from my old(current) pc:
Case, Power Supply and Mother Board
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16856101029
$187
Procesor
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115003
$235
Hard Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148286
$120
Memory
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820134046
$44
Total $586
conquistador
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Posted - Dec 11 2007 : 8:29PM
First thing I want to know is if you have any existing parts you might want to use (cannibalize).
Like a DVD rom drive
or a computer case
Is a monitor an issue or do you already have one you can use?
I would say you can probably skip over getting a graphics card because most on-board video will do what you want. That saves money.
Do you have an OS you want to install? What is it? Do you need to buy an OS (get XP)?
My computer is loud as hell so I can't tell you too much about quiet stuff because I added tons and tons of fans.
Every Antec power supply I have owned has been very quiet. (I have used it without all my noisy fans)
If you don't demand tons of power an older socket 775 MoBo and a Pentium 4 3.4ghz chip with 2 gigs of ocz ddr2 might do the trick.
nietzsche
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Posted - Dec 11 2007 : 11:41PM
I don't plan on cannibalizing the old machine. It will serve as a backup to the new one. I don't need a monitor, I will keep that. I will need to buy an OS. I want to stay with XP as there are no service packs yet for Vista.
GaySatyr
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Posted - Dec 12 2007 : 2:40AM
 
willywilly
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Posted - Dec 12 2007 : 2:20PM
Something to think about before you do this:
What if you buy a component in month 1, and you don't get around to assembling/testing your new computer until month 4, and discover that the component is DOA?
The vendor might not be too willing to take it back.
I'd go the other way around. Start with the motherboard, and worry about buying a case after you pick your mb.
Finding a case shouldn't be a big deal anyway.
Actually the combination of mb and cpu would be where I'd start. It doesn't sound like you need/want the latest, most high powered out there, so you begin to balance in cost, etc. In other words, no need to buy a $300 cpu when an $89 dollar cpu might do what you need.
Since the mb and cpu have to agree with each other, it is a balancing act when choosing them. You're working on choosing both at the same time.


nietzsche
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Posted - Dec 12 2007 : 7:49PM
nietzsche
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willywilly
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Posted - Dec 12 2007 : 8:07PM
Check out:
http://www.extreme.outervision.com/psucalculatorlitep
Probably. You probably won't even need that much.
I say that off the top of my head, because you indicated that you are not going to need a super-duper graphics card.
But let's see what you come up with from that calculator.
I would avoid the cheepo power supplies though.
That would be the $20 kind.
Get a quality name ps that exceeds your present wattage needs, and anything you think you might add later.
You can poke around www.newegg.com too. Customers comments/reviews are there. You have to take them with a grain of salt though.
RandomPrecision
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Enjoy!
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Posted - Dec 12 2007 : 8:11PM
That's a decent price on that case, Neech. It looks like it easily fits all your criteria to me. It might, in fact, be overkill if you aren't planning on installing many drives. I believe it said it had slots for 5 hard drives. If you're only going to install one 500 gig drive, you don't need 5 drive slots. Of course, I guess for the price, it's nice to have expandability for extra drives. But if you're anything like me, 2 internal hard drives are the most I'd ever install in one case.
willywilly
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Posted - Dec 12 2007 : 8:21PM
With a quick look at GaySatyr's links, I was reminded of a couple sites worth bookmarking.
Specifically regarding thermal paste.
http://www.arcticsilver.com/arctic_silver_instructions.htm
http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/274
Bookmark them now, someday you'll need them for reference.
:)
nietzsche
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Posted - Dec 12 2007 : 8:32PM
I currently have two hard drives, and will be transferring all the important files onto the one without the OS. Then I will install the latter in the new computer. I might even format the OS one and have three. That would be 850 gigs of hardon drive. :)
Harri Patel
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Posted - Dec 12 2007 : 10:23PM
nietzsche
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Posted - Dec 12 2007 : 11:36PM
That one looks great!
Edited by - nietzsche on 12/12/2007 11:37:27 PM
nietzsche
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Posted - Dec 12 2007 : 11:36PM
Comes with a power supply as well.
 
jayo All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Dec 13 2007 : 12:42AM
P/s wattage needs depends on what you plan to run on your machine. If you're going to have a lot of internal stuff like multiple hard drives, multiple DVD writers, etc, you need a lot more juice than if you're running 1 hard drive, 1 DVD writer and a normal compliment of stuff.
I tend to think people overdo it on wattage because they equate wattage with horsepower, as if having a p/s that can electrify your home would somehow push the electrons through the CPU faster.
Bob All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Dec 13 2007 : 1:53AM
I've been using [ invalid url ] (which includes a 350 Watt PSU) is a steal at Amazon.com.
RandomPrecision
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Enjoy!
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Posted - Dec 13 2007 : 6:46AM
I have my two extra hard drives in external cases connected by USB. I just put all the stuff I don't want to lose on them in case I have to reformat. And I only turn them on when I'm actually using them so it saves a whole lot of wear and tear on them.
Edited by - randomprecision on 12/13/2007 6:47:38 AM
conquistador
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Hellhamster.
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Posted - Dec 13 2007 : 7:26AM
Neech, if it helps I am using a 550watt antec that was around 120 bucks canadian 2 years ago.
It is overpowered for my machine.
Edited by - conquistador on 12/13/2007 7:27:28 AM
nietzsche
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Posted - Dec 13 2007 : 11:26PM
OK I think i know what I need. I'm not buying for another couple of weeks, but when I do, we'll move on to the next phase: motherboard and processor.
GaySatyr
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Posted - Dec 14 2007 : 12:14AM
motherboard: Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3L (w/ ICH9) or GA-P35-DS3P Rev 2.0 (w/ ICH9R) - adds RAID capabilities
processor (w/ heat-sync): Intel E6750 retail, E6850 retail or Q6600 retail
or
processor (w/o heat-sync): Intel E6750 OEM (n/a), E6850 OEM (n/a) or Q6600 OEM
and heat-sync: Scythe SCNJ-1100P Ninja w/ fan or ThermalRight Ultra 120 Extreme w/ or w/o Scythe S-FLEX SFF21D fan
~ GaySatyr (ABB)
Edited to add: For a discussion of my choices, see my posts in this thread.
Edited by - GaySatyr on 12/14/2007 12:22:05 AM
GaySatyr
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Posted - Dec 14 2007 : 12:41AM
And when the choices for a video board comes around, if you want gaming speed, get nVidia's new [ invalid url ] (at NewEgg, but cheaper thru Amazon).
~ GaySatyr (ABB)
Edited by - GaySatyr on 12/14/2007 3:35:48 AM
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