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phatbasey
Senior Member


1390 Posts
1/05
Posted - Apr 7 2005 : 10:49PM
As we speak I am having a terrible time connceting to on the Internet. I use Comcast and my buddy in Chicago says his net is down too. I never thought the Internet could "break" (so chances are its Comcast problems) but it left me with a question, Can the internet crash?
Flash All-Star Supporter
Golden Age Classic

11018 Posts
5/01
Posted - Apr 7 2005 : 10:59PM
I'm on the other side of the US from you and my Comcast is working fine. They may have lost part of their connection though. It is possible (not the whole internet but areas can crash).
DenverDon
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5914 Posts
7/02
Posted - Apr 7 2005 : 11:09PM
I'm currently having intermittent problems. Some areas seem to work fine, others that I visit regularly give me 'server cannot be found'.

Some of the loading is very slow too.

I use Comcast.

DenverDon <<<<[[[[

phatbasey
Senior Member

1390 Posts
1/05
Posted - Apr 7 2005 : 11:21PM
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MLyons
Senior Member

1617 Posts
8/02
Posted - Apr 7 2005 : 11:22PM
I use comcast as well, but am having no problems right now. 'Course, I could be speaking too soon. :)
 
Hardware All-Star Supporter
All-Star Member

Your other left
14594 Posts
3/02
Posted - Apr 7 2005 : 11:43PM
I'm sure Comcast has multiple routers connecting clients to the Internet. If 'your' router was actually down then you couldn't post here, so it is more likely congestion or route flapping (don't ask) than an actual 'break.'

As to the larger question, the Internet could be effectively crashed by a successful attack on the core routers. For the average user, a successful attack on the top level DNS servers would have the same effect. Even though traffic would still be capable of traversing the net, URL's would no longer work.

Jeff @ IAFD All-Star Supporter
Webmaster IAFD.COM

931 Posts
6/00
Posted - Apr 8 2005 : 12:36AM
I'm told that MCI had a fiber cable cut today, killing some 35,000 circuits across the northeast.
VirginSurgeon
Member

LA, CA
23 Posts
3/05
Posted - Apr 8 2005 : 12:57AM
An easy way to help diagnose a bad connection:

1) "Tracert" usage (tracert ip or address)>trace.txt
Look for response time, how many hops, and such.

Tracing route to msn.com [207.68.172.246]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 1 ms 1 ms <1 ms 192.168.18.1
2 61 ms 71 ms 71 ms 4.27.12.1
3 60 ms 71 ms 71 ms 4.9.15.98
4 61 ms 72 ms 71 ms so-4-1-0.bbr2.LosAngeles1.Level3.net [4.68.113.173]
5 97 ms 106 ms 107 ms so-1-0-0.mp1.Seattle1.Level3.net [209.247.10.137]
6 97 ms 106 ms 106 ms ge-11-0.hsa1.Seattle1.Level3.net [209.247.9.42]

Look for slow response times, find out what node it is
the >trace.txt saves it in a file called trace.txt.
This is handy for emailing your isp for their input.

Broadband.com has some good tools as well for testing lines also reports on how isp are doing.

2) Upgrade your modem-router-nick card software.
Sometimes when a service updates you need to cycle your router or modem to gain any benefits.

3)Check for spyware/trojans, i like using Hijackthis MS has a free spyware as well as spybot.

4) ipconfig- ping your router or modem, sometimes the conjestion is internal (in local ip range) and may be a bad nick card, router, or modem.

5)If you have DSL you may need a filter, line noise is common for causing issues.

DenverDon
Benevolent

Firmly Embedded in Depravity
5914 Posts
7/02
Posted - Apr 8 2005 : 1:29AM
It all seems to be back up now.

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jrv
Senior Member

1266 Posts
2/03
Posted - Apr 8 2005 : 3:47AM
The best place to go when there are problems of this sort is http://www.broadbandreports.com/ assuming you can get on the Internet at all.

It's very hard to take down the *entire* internet, when everything is being run correctly. The RTM worm probably came closest. What usually happens is that a large area under one ISP, such as Comcast, loses connectivity.

justalurker
Member

241 Posts
8/03
Posted - Apr 8 2005 : 8:53PM
Comcast has been having problems with one of their blade servers getting flakey, which seems to have affected some of their DNS servers yesterday. What you experienced was not the internet crashing but your ISP having internal problems. I managed to get into their support forums last night and grabbed an alternate dns server.
phatbasey
Senior Member

1390 Posts
1/05
Posted - Apr 12 2005 : 11:12PM
Having troubles again on Comcast anyone else?
cv
Member

My reviews[/url]
594 Posts
7/03
Posted - Apr 13 2005 : 12:30AM
Yes, in other forums, Comcast's ongoing suckage is being widely reported. You are not alone.

Comcast sucks.

phatbasey
Senior Member

1390 Posts
1/05
Posted - Apr 13 2005 : 12:42AM
Good to know sometimes lately it has been acting up like crazy.
DenverDon
Benevolent

Firmly Embedded in Depravity
5914 Posts
7/02
Posted - Apr 13 2005 : 1:35AM
Yeah, I had problems earlier, seems to be fixed ... again.

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phatbasey
Senior Member

1390 Posts
1/05
Posted - Apr 13 2005 : 9:36PM
this is become a nightly occurance it seems between the hours of 9pm-12am
DenverDon
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Firmly Embedded in Depravity
5914 Posts
7/02
Posted - Apr 13 2005 : 9:47PM
I'm having problems again tonight too. It seems to be a Comcast problem, but not the entire Comcast network. I was in chat last night and others, in other areas, use Comcast and they were not experiencing problems.

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jamesn
Senior Member

Cambridge, MA
750 Posts
1/04
Posted - Apr 13 2005 : 9:58PM
change your dns server to any of the following and you're golden

4.2.2.1
4.2.2.2
4.2.2.3
4.2.2.4
4.2.2.5
4.2.2.6

DenverDon
Benevolent

Firmly Embedded in Depravity
5914 Posts
7/02
Posted - Apr 14 2005 : 3:27AM
How do you change the DNS server?

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jamesn
Senior Member

Cambridge, MA
750 Posts
1/04
Posted - Apr 14 2005 : 4:23AM
denverdon, i don't know whether you're on a router or not or what kind it is but it should be obvious on the configuration page for it. for windows xp and comcast, go to controlpanel>network connections, pick "properties" on the one you use to connect.

there's gonna be a little list with checkboxes(don't changethem) and you want to select "properties for internet protocol(tcp/ip). you've probably got both of the fields set to "automatic" and you'll want to change the dns server preferred and alternates to any of the numbers i listed. you'll probably have to disable/re-enable or repair it for the change to take effect.


i'm terrible at writing directions, i'll try to find something with some screenshots in a few minutes.

Hardware All-Star Supporter
All-Star Member

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14594 Posts
3/02
Posted - Apr 14 2005 : 4:26AM
It gets a bit tricky if he's using a software router and getting his networking info imported via DHCP.
jamesn
Senior Member

Cambridge, MA
750 Posts
1/04
Posted - Apr 14 2005 : 4:39AM
whoa, i changed mine a while ago when i had problems but comcast is admitting the problem, pretty major for them.
National
General Outage - Resolved at 4/14/2005 2:37:48 AM EDT
(Connection to the Internet is currently unavailable. Our technicians are aware of the situation and are working to resolve the issue. This outage was logged at : 4/13/2005 6:47:00 PM EDT.)

found another wording at dslreports.com


Q: How do I change what DNS server my computer uses? (#8164)

A: Note: Instructions below are for Windows 2000, XP and 2003 users only. For a complete set of instructions for multiple operating systems, including screenshots, please visit the ORSC website. Additionally, if you are behind a router, you may have to change DNS settings using the router configuration utility. Please consult your user manual.

To change DNS servers:

o Right click on the My Network Places icon on the desktop and select Properties. (If the icon is not available, go to Start menu / My Computer / My Network Places / View Network Connections.)

o Locate the network connection that is associated with your Internet connection. This may be labeled something like "Local Area Connection." If you have more than one connection to choose from, be sure you determine the right one before proceeding.

o Right click on the appropriate connection and select Properties.

o In the list that appears under the General tab, double click on Internet Protocol (TCP/IP).

o In the window that appears, you want to select the option to Use the following DNS server addresses...

At this point you will want to enter at least one of your personal preferred DNS servers. There are a number of public servers suggested by members of the Comcast forum; simply do a search for 'DNS' and you should get adequate results. You can also check out this list compiled by jdmatl See Profile.

o Press Ok out of all windows until you are back to the Network Connections window. You can now open your web browser and browse to a website to see if it connects faster.

jamesn
Senior Member

Cambridge, MA
750 Posts
1/04
Posted - Apr 14 2005 : 4:42AM
sorry if it's wasting time for some, but here's a list of more dns servers said to work well.
SpeakEasy Nameservers
66.93.87.2
216.231.41.2
216.254.95.2
64.81.45.2
64.81.111.2
64.81.127.2
64.81.79.2
64.81.159.2
66.92.64.2
66.92.224.2
66.92.159.2
64.81.79.2
64.81.159.2
64.81.127.2
64.81.45.2
216.27.175.2
66.92.159.2
66.93.87.2

ORSC Public Access DNS Nameservers
199.166.24.253
199.166.27.253
199.166.28.10
199.166.29.3
199.166.31.3
195.117.6.25
204.57.55.100

Sprintlink General DNS
204.117.214.10
199.2.252.10
204.97.212.10

Cisco
128.107.241.185
192.135.250.69

GonzoAnalFan
Member

700 Posts
6/04
Posted - Apr 14 2005 : 6:17AM
Yep, it was a widespread Comcast outage. I've been thinking it was my home's wireless network these past few days until 2nite when NOTHING worked when attempting to connect online, except for my VOIP for some odd reason...Made a 90min call to 800-COMCAST (Holding entire duration due to obviously VERY HIGH CALL VOLUME due to the widespread dilemma) & by midnight EDT everything was running perfectly again. Other than those last couple days, my service has been flawless since its inception.
jamesn
Senior Member

Cambridge, MA
750 Posts
1/04
Posted - Apr 14 2005 : 2:19PM
gonzo, it's a dns issue-should be totally solved by using one of the listed numbers.



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