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Johnothan Pedak
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Posted - Oct 8 2007 : 12:27AM
I'm a 28 year old white male and I've never liked interracial scenes. When I watch a scene, like most people, I put myself in the guy's place. But when it is a person of colour it takes me out of the scene. Now I'm not a racist and I don't "blacklist" (no pun intended) the girls who do it. If I did, I'd lose half of my favorites!
I'm wondering what other people thoughts are on this?
ToneBone
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Posted - Oct 8 2007 : 12:38AM
I used to enjoy watching IR as late as the mid 90's. Back then IR sex was still taboo and I used to get off watching a girl do something she usually wouldn't. Now it does nothing for me. I see interracial couples everywhere I go. There is nothing edgy or taboo about it. If I want taboo, I'd rather see these girls fuck a loser looking older white guy in his 30's-40's (Dave Hardman, anyone?). That is something you don't get to see much in real life.
nietzsche
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Posted - Oct 8 2007 : 12:52AM
Finally someone brings a fresh topic to the table!
tritone
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Posted - Oct 8 2007 : 12:54AM
I do not think there is anything odd about this. I will say that I have noticed more white objections to seeing black dick than vice versa.
I am black and I often like to put myself "in the scene" as well. As long as the male talent is not overly annoying, I can get past whatever color the dick is and just focus on the girl.
But every once in a while I do like to see starlets that I enjoy do a scene with a black dick. It enhances the virtual experience that much more. It also makes me more excited about their non-IR scenes because I know they do not have a problem going all the way with people of my race.
I applaud performers who see people as individuals first and don't exclude partners simply because of their race.
conquistador
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Hellhamster.
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Posted - Oct 8 2007 : 12:57AM
+ 100,000,000,000,000
 
RandomPrecision
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Enjoy!
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Posted - Oct 8 2007 : 1:18AM
Doesn't bother me at all. My imagination works well enough to paint a black cock white if I want to put myself into the scene.
However, I find that sometimes the best way to watch porn is just from a voyeuristic standpoint. It's just two people having sex and that's enough for me. The extent of my thoughts about the guy is just imagining how good he's feeling and what he's thinking. I don't need to see a white dude to get off on this. The dude could be purple and if he knows how to fuck, can keep wood and I can get into his head, not much else matters.
Joey Starr
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Still wanking after all these years.
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Posted - Oct 8 2007 : 1:21AM
Love it.
Joey Starr
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Still wanking after all these years.
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Posted - Oct 8 2007 : 1:23AM
Especially black guys with Eurobabes.
Joey Starr
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Still wanking after all these years.
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Posted - Oct 8 2007 : 1:24AM
And Mandingo, I'd buy anything with Mandingo.
jrsl76
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Perfection
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Posted - Oct 8 2007 : 2:00AM
I don't really care what race the guy is.
ma meeshka
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Posted - Oct 8 2007 : 2:09AM

yes, you are.
matchmaker
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Posted - Oct 8 2007 : 2:10AM
+1
Walter All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Oct 8 2007 : 2:36AM
I'm a white guy and I just finished watching an IR scene. It is a bit more difficult to put myself into the picture if the guy is black, but it is easy enough to overcome. Therefore, I will watch IR movies if I like other aspects of the movie.
However, I did find the constant use and emphasis of the phrase "big black dick" in this scene a little absurd. It was as if the women were getting paid $20 extra each time they looked into the camera and said "big black dick!". It seemed contrived and grew old rather quickly. It just became something else to block out of my mind. This is probably because I am not watching the movie for the IR appeal; I wonder if black viewers find the constant "big black dick" chatter annoying. I suspect that a large percentage of the viewers are white guys who want to hear the girl say "big black dick" a lot. How many times can I write "big black dick" in a sentence?
I avoid movies with titles like "Inseminated by 3 Angry Black Men" or anything with the "There goes the neighborhood" or "Lock up yer white wimmen folk, here come the....". Usually these aren't clever social satires; they are dumb scenarios that rely on the viewers belief that the women are being degraded by having sex with black men. I wouldn't be surprised if the vast majority of the viewers of these films are white guys.
Edited by - Walter on 10/8/2007 2:41:03 AM
Dick Froth
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Posted - Oct 8 2007 : 2:42AM
+1
Dick Froth
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Posted - Oct 8 2007 : 2:44AM
Oh, and don't forget teenage girls with black dudes. Especially in a gangbang!
 
Johnothan Pedak
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Catastrophe
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Posted - Oct 8 2007 : 3:05AM
Purple People Eaters?
Knocko
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Posted - Oct 8 2007 : 3:07AM
+1
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Edited by - hardware on 10/8/2007 8:17:33 AM
jrsl76
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Posted - Oct 8 2007 : 3:14AM
I almost rented the new Inseminate by 2 Black Men release tonight, but it had nothing to do with the IR aspect. My interest was seeing Carmen Minor in another creampie scene. I also own Blacksnake Bitches, but again, the IR aspect had nothing to do with it. That one was all based on the Jake Malone connection and the fact that it was a really good release (rented it before) with a very high latin girl concentration.
wargamer
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Posted - Oct 8 2007 : 5:59AM
I love IR movies. But I think I may be more racist than Pedak.(will explain later)
I don't think you need to put yourself in anyone's place to enjoy porn.
The most popular form of animal porn is the ones between a male animal and a human female. And most of the buyers are men. If one has difficulty identifying with a black performer, surely these guys are not thinking of themselves as the male animal when they watch.
Luke Ford needed a perspicacious black man to realize that he was probably more racist than those who did not like to watch IR scenes. You guys just need me for the enlightenment.
zorge
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Posted - Oct 8 2007 : 8:22AM
WTF?!
Hardware All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Oct 8 2007 : 8:24AM
Since I don't try to project myself onto the male performer, I couldn't care less what color his skin is, or whether he resembles me in any form or fashion. Which is to say, I don't watch IR because it is IR, I watch it because I'm a fan of the female performer.
Knocko
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Posted - Oct 8 2007 : 8:31AM
^^^ +1 exactly
Edited by - Knocko on 10/8/2007 8:32:05 AM
Knocko
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Posted - Oct 8 2007 : 8:33AM
oh yah i also agree with zorge's WTF @ wargamer's bizarre post
sam46
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Posted - Oct 8 2007 : 8:51AM
Wargamer is the anti-perspiration.
wargamer
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Posted - Oct 8 2007 : 8:54AM
If you think my post is bizarre you probably have not understood it.
Most White guys watch BMWF-IR because they want to see stuck up white b*tches humiliated, degraded and eventually split up in half by gigantic bestial black dicks.
You can pretend to be a Mr. Goodwill whose soul is so pure,innocent and untainted ... Maybe you are, but look around and see the kind of titles that are put on IR sales.
It is just plain obvious.
 
sam46
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Posted - Oct 8 2007 : 9:08AM
He said bestial.
RandomPrecision
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Enjoy!
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Posted - Oct 8 2007 : 9:20AM
Maybe I'm in the minority here but in all my years of watching porn, I've found that the title often has very little to do with the actual content. I spent some time renting movies that emphasized anal in the title because I (obviously) wanted movies that focussed on anal sex. Nevertheless, almost all of them went straight for the pussy in every scene and had maybe 5 minutes of actual anal thrown in almost as an afterthought. Now yeah. If it's "Black Dicks, White Chicks" you're probably going to see black guys on white women as the theme. I don't really enjoy the semi-racist titles but it does make it easier to find if you're specifically looking for IR. But I usually ignore the title once I've found what I'm looking for. I don't care what they call it. I don't care to hear "Black cock" repeated over and over. I can see that he's black. I'm sure he knows he's black. I can see how that might be offensive to black people. But when it comes to actually calling it racist, I think the opinions of black people matter more than the opinions of white people. I can't look at it and say "That's racist". I don't know what offends them beyond the obvious. I think "There goes the neighborhood" would be extremely offensive and I wouldn't rent it. Other things are not exactly so clear cut.
I often don't specifically seek IR out but when I do, I'm not going to lie. I think black males tend to be great performers. That's been my experience anyway. And yeah. A big cock is kind of a prerequisite for good porn. Most people prefer to watch porn in which the male is well endowed. It doesn't have a lot to do with humiliation. And no. Freakishly large cocks aren't much of a turn on for me either. Just bigger than average. I'm average myself and don't imagine too many women would be thrilled with my cock.
Anyway, I don't see what's so humiliating about a white chick and a black guy fucking. Unless she doesn't like black guys and if she doesn't, why's she doing IR?
Edited by - randomprecision on 10/8/2007 9:26:25 AM
Knocko
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Posted - Oct 8 2007 : 9:34AM
i dont think anyone understood it...."animal porn" ???
...i guess u are trying to say you like to watch so-called IR porn becuz you are super racist and think of black guys as beasts instead of humans.
...well i guess u are in luck since there is a lot of black-on-white porn that caters to that fetish.....
as for me i have no preference....like i put my +1 on: i dont really care what race the guy is. the female performer is my focus....
bree olson could be in a scene for "fucked by real eskimos #7" and i would still watch it and enjoy it becuz it is bree gettin fucked
Knocko
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Posted - Oct 8 2007 : 9:40AM
well i guess the super racist mindset is that blacks are somehow less human than whites so therefore to have sex with a black man is to be degraded....
...lot of ugliness revealed in wargamer's posts....also confusion....wargamer is probably not very well socialized....
ma meeshka
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Posted - Oct 8 2007 : 10:34AM
between fucking animals and hating niggers, who has time for socialising?
Ramsey
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Posted - Oct 8 2007 : 1:06PM
For me it's the other way around, I can't watch white on white action, I find that utterly boring eventhough I'm not black. I do like Rodney Moore though, he's a hero for us normal looking guys. I also can't stand all black guys so I'm kind of in-between or something.
wargamer
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Posted - Oct 8 2007 : 1:21PM
Sometimes no but generally yes. Unbelievably racist things are said and done there;things like black guys dressed up in gorilla suits.
It is true that many(but far from all) of these IR titles with racist themes are produced by blacks or companies owned by them but then how are you going to justify titles like "slant eyed sluts" "me luuuuuv you long time"? I don't think Asians are involved in the production there and they have complained about the titles.
How about "look who's fucking your daughter?" etc.?
But that does not explain why Ray Victory was popular during the late 80's and early 90's.
Before Lexington Steele black performers were neither the biggest nor the hardest. Guys like Ray Victory could hardly manage to keep the erection. But still they found enough work in the industry. If Sean Michaels or Julian St Jox were white they would not have lasted long.
Actually a good number of these IR titles play along that theme. How do I know? It says so directly in the dialogue and synopsis.
I remember one south african peformer(Ann Marie Sullivan I think) who ,upon sucking her first black cock, mumbled to herself "oh, where is your pride?". It would have been edited out by most directors but it certainly shows that taboo aspect is present even in the mindset of the white female performers involved.
Actually the taboo aspect is sometimes what turns her on.
wargamer
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Posted - Oct 8 2007 : 1:51PM
There are actual titles that are similar to all 3 of the above. LOL
In fact "Inseminated by 2 black men" is one of the best lines in IR genre. In fact it is less racist than many of Paul Thomas' idiotic "couple's IR videos".
But not as dumb as those hypocrites who insist that the West, especially America, is all free of such prejudice.
tritone
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Posted - Oct 8 2007 : 2:34PM
Speaking for myself, I definitely find it annoying.
Hardware All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Oct 8 2007 : 2:34PM
Florence King, God bless her, worked a short stint at an outfit that published porn books. This would have been back when Playboy was considered very racy. I don't think she was writing the material, just working on the jacket blurbs.
At any rate, she tells how the owner would get on her to dumb it down. I don't think the mindset has changed any - most producers consider us to be idiots.
 
phatbasey
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Posted - Oct 9 2007 : 1:54AM
Pretty much says it all. I agree 1000% but "the big black cock" talk? I find that a little anoying, can't he just nail the chick without them playing repeat after me. "You want this big black cock in your tight ass?!" "Yes! I want this big black cock in my tight ass"
Please...
Walter All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Oct 9 2007 : 2:35AM
Gabriela Rossi
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Posted - Oct 9 2007 : 3:55AM
There will be an absolutely boiling hot interracial scene in the upcoming "Dementia"(SinCity)release. All i can say is this:
Dana De Armond dressed in a patent leather french maid outfit + a hot blonde + two stunning African American male performers = oh my god i want to fuck right now!
The scene takes place at the outside courtyard of a gorgeous oceanfront mansion. Dana was melting away under the sun (it was noon at the time) but she didn't miss a beat.
I also agree that skin color has no weight on any of my porn viewing choices. All i care about is enthusiasm, kinkiness, and high energy.
As far as the endless "big black cock" talk, directors just like how these words sound all together. It sure as hell makes me horny! Maybe it's the suggestion of loving cock in all its glory, be it huge, medium, xsmall, thick, thin, black, white, covered in lube . . . i'm getting wet already ;-)
tritone
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Posted - Oct 9 2007 : 4:05AM
It is true that many(but far from all) of these IR titles with racist themes are produced by blacks or companies owned by them but then
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On the contrary. I am sure that the majority of these companies are not black owned. These same white owners are responsible for the Asian titles you reference as well.
In contrast, look at how Mercenary (owned by Lex Steele) markets its titles. No provactive statements about race or the "bestial" nature of blacks. Just promoting hot sex between partners -- some of which MIGHT be of different races.
wargamer
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Posted - Oct 9 2007 : 4:55AM
The one who pioneered that genre was none other than Jake Steed with his "Big Black Monster Dicks...." series. The current No 1. offender is Hush Hush but Shane Diesel clearly has something to do with at least its blackzilla series.
I don't think it is all scripted. Shane Diesel genuinely appears to get a kick out of being called nigger.
Mercenary has certain lines that are largely interracial but with no direct reference or stress(like Ironhead manhammer superwhores etc). However it does have other lines that are more specific like Fresh Out The Box series which is all black men - white women(occasionally latina) or many of it's all black lines. The selection of the cast is certainly not random with respect to race. (nothing wrong with it but you appear to make a big deal out of " some of which MIGHT be of different races".)
Well, that is not how it is done, even by Mercenary.
Ramsey
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Posted - Oct 9 2007 : 12:18PM
I would never ever buy Mercenary movies, not only because of my dislike of Steele but also because they don't shoot 100% BM/WF scenes, almost all of their movies include Marco Banderas including these so-called interracial titles.
Hypermastia
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Posted - Oct 9 2007 : 2:53PM
Johnothan Pedak
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Dr. Nasty
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Posted - Oct 9 2007 : 6:00PM
LMAO! This thread is off the hook.
On another note color doesn't matter to me. Its all fantasy and imagination anyways. I do have to say that porns is marketed in a pretty shitty way whenever interacial with a black man is done. Now someone like Sunny Leone(who is Indian) Having sex with that guy(whatever his name is, who is white), that scene won't be marketed as her first interracial scene even though it is. Now let it be another whit girl....any girl paired with a black guy and oh my god its "see so-and-so get reamed by this big black cock in this interracial movie called White Chicks Getting Fucked by Black Dudes Who are Strapped and Smoking a Joint While eating some fried chicken in the Hood".
And let me ask you this. How many girls (any race) in porn have started their careers(first scene ever) fucking a black guy and how many started fucking white guys? I'd say 0 for the former. Because their career would probably be over before they knew it. It sucks, but it seems more then true. Lets just see what happens with Aurora Jolie when she loses her virginity and gives up the pussy on camera. I'm betting the first guy up will be white. I don't really care either way. I'm just poiinting out the obvious. Oh well. Thats the world we live in.
LCF All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Oct 9 2007 : 6:19PM
Teagan did her first anal scene with black guys
wargamer
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Posted - Oct 9 2007 : 6:25PM
Not true. A lot of girls started their career with an interracial. Estelle said so in the BTS. April as well, I think. There are quite a few who even worked only with black men.
Sob stories like this are pretty silly. The porn industry is not without racism but blacks themselves are not so innocent of the sin nor are they the ones who suffer the worst of it.
Dr. Nasty
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Asa Akira.....Damn!
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Posted - Oct 9 2007 : 6:53PM
thst'd not the same as first scene.
Dr. Nasty
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Asa Akira.....Damn!
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Posted - Oct 9 2007 : 6:56PM
Ok I was exaggerating.
As far as those girls who work with black men only, how many of them have succesful careers?! Not very many.
wargamer
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Posted - Oct 9 2007 : 7:17PM
Are you saying April Summer did not have a successful career? Even Estelle lasted long enough. It is her visa problem that is keeping her off.
I love girls who fuck black guys only on screen. There is something erotic about it. On the other hand those who would not do IR on camera(even though they do it in their private life) are complete turnoffs. In fact I prefer the ones who don't do IR at all to them.
Dr. Nasty
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Asa Akira.....Damn!
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Posted - Oct 9 2007 : 8:36PM
that is why I said "not very many" as opposed to "not any at all".
wargamer
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Posted - Oct 9 2007 : 9:14PM
Neither April nor Estelle worked with only black men. I just misread your post.
But to make a proper comparison you need to consider black women who only work with black men.(they are the exact analogues of white women who only work with white men)
There are some and they do well in all black video niche.
And why all the focus on white girls not doing blacks? How about girls who would not do midgets?(just about everyone) or black girls not doing whites or white girls who would not do Asians(Monica Sweetheart for one)?
Johnothan Pedak
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Catastrophe
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Posted - Oct 9 2007 : 9:42PM
That's gotta hurt!
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