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I've been waiting forever for the Next Instalement of that Demintia series from Sincity/MayHeM. ks for giving us an Update on that series and I will put it on my list.I have never missed a single series of Demintia,Jim Brown does a great Job with that Joint of his. mod: snipped the quote Edited by - hardware on 10/9/2007 11:08:23 PM
People's thoughts? Good for you. Who cares. It does something for a lot of other people, and fortunately you aren't the center of the universe. And even though you said you don't do it, the fact that the idea of blacklisting a girl for whom she chooses to fuck crosses your mind speaks volumes . Colour with a u? I'd 've thought you were a Yank.
I'm black. My collection is 90% IR and the rest is white on white. I cant watch a non- IR scene and still enojy it but i would be lieing if i said i dont prefer IR scenes. With that being said, If the sex is hot, i'll watch.
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tritone Deactivated User
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Posted - Oct 9 2007 : 11:50PM
The midget example is not valid and your other 2 almost NEVER happen. The white girls not doing black guys (on camera) is waay more common. ...and I'm willing to bet that tried and true IR dodgers like Harmony and Vicky Vette would do a white "midget" on camera before they would even touch a normal-height black person. Edited by - tritone on 10/9/2007 11:54:54 PM Edited by - tritone on 10/9/2007 11:55:22 PM Edited by - tritone on 10/9/2007 11:56:22 PM
Why not? Aren't you prejudiced yourself?Actually there are a lot of female black talents who do not list interracial on their profile card. I can easily pick 50 white girls who have done black guys but not Asians.(with JAV and the likes of Rick Lee lack of offer is no longer an excuse) ...even though Monica Sweetheart is about the only one who openly stated it.Harmony said she fucked black guys off camera. Preferring white midgets to normal sized black men is just as legitimate as the opposite. Discrimination based on height is just as illegal as that based on race.
One of the strangest thing I've heard concerning a white girl's take on interracial sex was a girl on the Howard Stern auditioning to become a pornstar in front of Max Hardcore and two other porn directors. She said she had fantasies about having sex with a horse and had let her dog lick her privates on occasion. "So sex with animals isn't out of the question?" someone asked. "No, not all..." she said. Then someone asked if she would do interracical and she said "Oh no, I don't have don't believe having sex with someone out of my race.." Then they all laughed and pointed out that she wouldn't have sex with someone out of her race but would have sex out of her species. Even after they pointed who absurd it was she still didn't get it. On another occasion a girl who said she refused to do interracial because of her upbringing was asked if her parents would be more upset if she had sex with a dog or a black man and the girl thought about it a second and answered very seriously "I'm not sure..." After saying these things all of the girls will immediately say "But I'm not racist...." I could care less about who these girls have sex with but it is kinda sad/funny/insulting how terrible some of these women see having sex with black men must be.
I want someone to make an IR film called "Tighty Whiteys". Edited by - Johnothan Pedak on 10/10/2007 8:29:43 AM
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Posted - Oct 10 2007 : 9:32AM
So by the logic I see in this thread someone who chooses not to fuck somebody because they do not find them attractive is discriminating against ugly people. Someone point out to me exactly what amendment to the Constitution protects the right to get laid. The Declaration of Independance only mentions the pursuit of happiness. Nowhere does it proclaim that happiness must get down on it's knees and blow you.
Is she good-looking? I think I love her. This may be the beginning of a beautiful friendship.I love her even more. Pissing off guys at Mr Marcus forum is so much fun. Sex with a dog is just a fantasy while IR sex is something that her immediate future employer may demand of her right away. Her attitude seems a bit odd but maybe she was just not articulate enough.
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tritone Deactivated User
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Posted - Oct 10 2007 : 12:18PM
...and I'm willing to bet that if that happens its just a simple oversight. And in most cases they don't even bother putting it there because its just assumed that you will fuck white guys. You cannot survive in the adult business if you don't actually.That's interesting. I wouldn't mind knowing where you read this.
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tritone Deactivated User
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Posted - Oct 10 2007 : 12:21PM
We do not have a right to get laid, this is true. We do have a right to complain. :)
Where did Monica Sweetheart say this? I only know Asia Carrera said she would never do Asian guys because they reminded her too much of her dad, strange.
I disagree. Porn is about money and producers steadfastly pander to the largest audience. Intellectuals will tolerate barbarism much longer than barbarians will tolerate intellectualism. This is the Fox News secret of the universe. If you dumb it down to the nitty gritty, you keep the knuckle draggers involved while simultaneously stimulating the emotional id of the academics. Win, win.Back to your old tricks again, I see. Intentionally misrepresenting the issue today? Nice. Look, if racial prejudice does not offend you, fine. But why not just say that, rather than try to pretend there is no such thing? Edited by - Shotgun Styles on 10/10/2007 4:12:48 PM
Excuse me sir. Let me tell you that in American Porn language the Term IR,means doing a BM. So If a Latina Chick does not include IR on her Dance card,It means she will work with anyone except Black Male. If a Black Girl does not have IR on her Dance Card,It means she will work with White Male,Latin Male but will not do Black Male. So your arguement is invalid in this case. Also your story about Harmony doing Black dudes off camera is A BIG FAT LIE! mod: snipped the quote Edited by - hardware on 10/11/2007 12:44:36 PM
I don't think so but still that does not help much since even according to you that means she won't do Asian men.I don't know. Maybe I am just too gullible, so next time I should check with you instead of believing what any porn star says in an interview. http://www.howardstern.com/rundown.hs?d=1143522000 " ...before admitting that she wont do interracial scenes in her films. Harmony insisted, though, that the reason she doesnt have sex with black men on film doesnt have to do with her being prejudiced because she has had sex with black men off film, ..." Edited by - wargamer on 10/11/2007 3:38:46 AM
^^^^Well many American Girls travel to shoot scenes in Japan. Dominique Simone,Jada Fire have done scenes with Asian males in Japan.Other White Females like Felix Vicious,Tory Lane ,Tawny Roberts have also shot scenes in Japan with Asian males and yet they have blatantly refused to work with Black males.So once again you are off track. About Harmony issue on Howard Stern,let me tell you that Girls are fully prepared to be asked questions about IR from Stern. So they turn up prepared to Give either one of the Following excuses. A. The size issue. B.They only do IR off Camera. C.They are not prejudiced but are not attracted to BM. SO In her case she picked excuse B. She has to be the upteenth person to pick that overused excuse which many people are no longer buying. End of my argument.
That only means some Black girls have done Asian guys. If a bunch of black girls have not listed IR on their card and have not done IR(especially Asian men) so far, the burden of proof is on you to prove otherwise.I can easily list an equal number of white females who said they would not work with Asian men but have done blacks. (monica sweetheart recently and several in the 90's. One of them in howard stern show)End of nothing, thank you.
Getting back to the topic, porn for me has never, ever, ever, been about relating to the guys; not one bit. So I as a white guy love IR porn because it's really about the girls acting slutty and loving cock. I love watching DP as well, even as the thought of me doing it isn't one of my most coveted fantasies. I don't think most porn watchers put themselves in the guys place at all when watching porn. Porn is a visual fantasy more than an actual fantasy. Edited by - Christopher256 on 10/11/2007 3:04:30 PM
Really? So if computer graphics develop to the point where they are indistinguishable from the real ones it won't make a difference to you whether something is real or not?
^Not for me it won't. I want to see what I want to see. I don't really care if it happened or not. I guess that's why I don't get into porn stars the way others do. I really don't put much thought into their actual humanity. Outside of not wanting to see them harmed in any way, I could give a damn about the lot of them. mod: extraneous quote removed Edited by - hardware on 10/11/2007 6:10:47 PM
Harsh, but I do agree to an extent. I love certain girls, but only because they're doing porn. I don't know if I would think more or less about them if they did something else.
No, she wasn't really good looking. Max Hardcore said he wouldn't hire her because she was too fat, had a bad attiyude and was racist. The other two guys (who's names I can't remember but I've seen their stuff talked about here Ithink they're well known here) said they would hire her and give her a shot. One of the guys who said they would give her a shot laughed and said "she's saying that now, but after a few weeks I'll have her sucking black cock..." She apparently was raised in the South with red-neck type parents. I like when pornstars go on Howard because he always asks the white porn girls if they do interracial. If the girl gives a dumb answer he'll call them on it. Then again...no matter what they say it almost always sounds lame or stupid.
The only 2 women who were asked that question and I feel gave a sensible answer about interracial sex were escort/prostitutes. One was on the show last week and said she doesn't usually like to have sex with black men because of their size. She said one time she didn't do a good background check on a guy and when she got there he was a very light skinned black man. She said it would've been insulting to refuse to have sex with him because he was black so she banged him but she said it was uncomfortable for her because of his size. The other escort/prostitute who said she she didn't like to have sex with black guys said she didn't like it because "they fuck too good and last too long". she said she liked guys who came fast, pay her and go. mod: snipped the quote Edited by - hardware on 10/12/2007 1:56:40 AM
What an Aimless Comeback! You can't possibly tell me that they are the only Black Girls that would do ASIAN guys.Many other Black Females have done Asian guys and many more would easily work with Asian Males if the opportunity came. The 2 mentioned are the ones I know on the top of my head,but many if not all Black Girls will tell you that Porn is a job and they will not discriminate on the basis or race.In their personal lives their prefrence is Black dudes,but on Film most of their scenes are done with non-Black males.So your comeback fails . As for White or Latin Girls ,many of them have shoot scenes in Japan when the opportunity presents itself.I do not believe that Monicha Sweetheart would not do Asian guys,coz she has said she will work with any ''Professional Male regardless of race or Size''. Try harder next time sir!
This is so comical. You don't get it, do you? 'burden of evidnece", do you know what that means? Anyway it does not matter, just try to understand that it is on you.
It's going to be a while before that happens. I mean, before computer generated stuff is truly indistinguishable from real stuff. The biggest problem I'd have with that is I think all of the characters would look very generic. And of course, they'd model them to be "perfect". No more girls who don't fit the standard. That would be a shame. In 30 years or whatever it is, if they can do it realistically, I wouldn't be opposed to it. It's a good idea in many ways.
As far as I know nothing is on me. Its you that has tried to make too many senseless comebacks but failed to prove anything at all.I was able to prove that Porn ,Black females will work where opportunities arise,and are not so picky about Race.So when they List IR on their Dance-card ,they are making themselves available to work with BM(assuming that they will also get work with non-black males). That is what IR means. So If they are booked to work with non-blacks(be it White,Latin,or Asian Males) they will accept the offer without any dramas. Since there is barely any Asian American Males shooting Porn in America,they don't get to do Asian guys.But some black Girls do get calls to shoot with Asian Males in Japan and that's when they do it.The fact that Many have not shot with Asian Males has more to do with them(Black Girls) not getting the offers.But when they get offers they accept them .Marie Luv used to post here and I hope she can jump in and knock some sence into your thick head.
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sam46 Deactivated User
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Posted - Oct 12 2007 : 2:30AM
Just the opposite. Monica was actually quoted on the Howard Stern show (2/7) as saying she preferred Asian men.
The show on Feb 7th has no such thing. At least not in the summary presented by howardstern.com. July 2nd was an off day for the show. If that is true she has a funny way of showing preference since she is about the only czech who did neither Rick Lee nor JAV(or any other asian). LOL (Sylvia Saint is another. Among the active ones, the only one who comes close is ellen saint who did Rick Lee once.) Monica said either(not sure which) she would not work with or would not go out with Asian or Hispanic men. I think it was a BTS of "if size is not big enough"(?). It went like "...whites?" yes "...blacks?" maybe "...asians?" no(resolutely shaking her head) "...hispanics?" no That one really cracked me up and I thought she was one dumb bitch since even if she thought so she should not have said so if she cared about her popularity in the Japanese market etc. But her anti-asian attitude certainly should have raised her popularity among black american males so maybe she is smart after all. I am sure if howard stern asks more girls whether she will do asians we will see more examples of refusal. The only time I remember him asking such was in the 90's and the girl(I forget her name. Sicilian) said no, saying Asians had too small dicks.
Enough with the personalities and put downs. If people can't argue on the merits then don't start. Also, making unsubstantiated claims doesn't entitle anybody to get on their high horse.
Wow. I find it amazing how strongly so many of the posters here feel about the interracial topic. Back to the what the original poster said...I can certainly understand his point of view. If he watches porn and puts himself in the place of the male performer I can understand where a black performer might throw his fantasy off. Everyone is different. I personally more often than not don't pretend to be the guy doing the girl and during the times I do I don't really care what color he is (I'm black). If I start down that road then I have to start worrying about if the guy in the movie is as big as I am, if he's saying things I'd say, if he's in as good a shape as I am, if he's a young, etc., etc...If I'm into taking the place of the guy in my head I'm more concerned with the girl's reactions and looks rather than what the male performer looks like. But that's me. The time some people spend concentrating on which girls aren't doing IR is both funny and a huge waste of time in my opinion. Years ago I could understad it being more of an issue but today I'd guess more girls do it than don't. For me about 70% of the girls I like, do or have done it. There are a few girls I wish would do it but I don't sweat it. Some of them I'm pretty sure will do it eventually. In the meanwhile, I still like them and can't be too upset about it because it's their choice to make. I know it's fun and easy for some people to toss out the word "racist" but the term doesn't always apply in these discussions. Sometimes a girl just not be into black guys. If I were a performer I would feel the same way about fat women. I wouldn't care if they had pretty faces, great personalities, were great performers, were fun to hang around with or whatever I'd refuse to do what I consider fat women. Doesn't mean I think they're bad people or I couldn'tbe friends with them but sexually they aren't my thing. In my mind that's about the same as a white girl not wanting to have sex with black guys.
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sam46 Deactivated User
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Posted - Oct 13 2007 : 11:57AM
yada yada yak yak yada yada
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T0201 Deactivated User
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Posted - Oct 13 2007 : 2:59PM
Inaccurate comparison. Whether one is obese or not isn't (usually anyway) a fundamental genetic trait, one's innate skin melanin content is though. And it's neither fun nor easy to consider someone racist, but when knows the pathetic history of the US it's pretty obvious as to why a white performer would do scenes with every other ethnicity except blacks. And the vast majority of the time it's not the result of a racially neutral personal preference. Edited by - T0201 on 10/13/2007 3:01:35 PM
But color of skin alone does not determine the race of a person. There are some caucasoids in India as dark as Africans. As I said race is the total package, it is about shared genetic inheritance.
What a ridiculous sob story. And the funny thing is that it is not even true. Why do most of normal sized female performers refuse to do midgets? Answer that one first.
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sam46 Deactivated User
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Posted - Oct 13 2007 : 6:10PM
LOL! I knew Moe had to give us some real insight! !
Well a significant number of Girls would rather work with a Light skinned Black Person than a very Dark skinned one. So skin color still plays a role and not any of this ''Genetic makeup'' bullshit that some memmber continues to bring up.
Then you need to show that a darker skinned non-black person is less favored than a lighter skinned one too. Is that the case? Herschel Savage is darker than Jake Steed so?
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Posted - Oct 13 2007 : 7:04PM
Very open minded and respectful of a diverse opinion from yours. BTW genetics has quite a bit to do with obesity.
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tritone Deactivated User
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Posted - Oct 13 2007 : 7:06PM
The perplexing truth is, as long as a person says they are not "black" he can have darker skin (within reason) and the girls who won't do IR will fuck him. Case in point is Tony T. -- bronze-skinned but not black. From what I've heard he is of Egyptian descent. Girls who don't do IR fuck Tony T. all the time. But have a guy who is lighter than Tony T., but still black (i.e. by his pubes and non-straight hair) -- he will be passed over because officially he is a negro. In fact, some people actually think Tory Lane did IR in Brother Love's POV Fantasy (great scene, btw). But the fact is, "Brother Love" is not black, he's just got dark skin. But as you only see his dick in the movie -- I can get how some could be confused.
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Posted - Oct 13 2007 : 7:06PM
Where do I find the black versions of Thomas Edison, Leonardo DaVinci, or Albert Einstein? Oh yeah...there aren't any. Yes, blacks compare to whites very well... In porn standings yes, they definitely do. When you consider contributions to the world involving intellect, inventiveness or other complex thought... One continent still lives in the ever moving pasture. EDIT: Wait a sec, it is always an inaccurate comparison because the genetic evidence does not support it. Your racial hate posts are a moot point. Get real. EDIT AGAIN: I don't mean Tritone. I mean the one poster who always must post about race and nothing else. Edited by - conquistador on 10/13/2007 7:13:15 PM
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Posted - Oct 13 2007 : 7:16PM
It varies from person to person. In many cases though the primary factors that lead people to obesity are fattening foods and a sedentary lifestyle. This is why obesity rates vary even among industrialized countries, because rates of exercise and types of diet vary dramatically. I would think you would understand such a relatively simple fact.
I never said skin tone alone determined one's race. Never mind the fact that race itself has yet to be properly defined. But it is a fact that one's skin melanin content can and does lead others to discriminate against them. And it's interesting you brought up India, because there is a group called the Dravidians who are darker skinned are who discriminated against because of their higher skin melanin content. And some do indeed consider them to be Black, and not caucasoid.
Actually it is by and large true among most of the anglo female performers in the industry. Edited by - T0201 on 10/13/2007 7:49:06 PM