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| Tobyedison Deactivated User 88 Posts 12/13 |  Posted - May 23 2014 : 2:41PMI've always wanted to know whether the practice of Interracial avoidance is common in other porn markets worldwide, or just native to the U.S. porn market. I'm from the U.K. and I've noticed that very few International(non-U.S.) pornstars refuse to do Interracial scene. However I have come to notice that several U.S.-based European pornstars who haven't to my knowledge performed in a single interracial scene thus far,(Bobbi Eden, Tayne Tate, Puma Swede Vicky Vette and Briana Banks). Note:This is not an attempt to insight a riot of on this forum, so please keep the comments to the point. I simply want to know if interracial is an issue in any other porn market or just uniquely American. Edited by - Tobyedison on May 27 2014 [Link] |
LCF  All-Star Member Non Prevalebunt! 10364 Posts 1/05 | Posted - May 23 2014 : 3:11PM key word USA based [Link] |
| Tobyedison Deactivated User 88 Posts 12/13 | Posted - May 23 2014 : 3:16PM [Link] |
| LCF All-Star Member Non Prevalebunt! 10364 Posts 1/05 | Posted - May 23 2014 : 3:27PM That in Europe nobody takes any count whether a stars does or doesn't do IR , nobody gives a fuck , it maybe be possible some don't do IR , but for example if you look at Rocco Fucktory XXX the Auditions you will find Valentina Nappi's very first shoot , it was IR (and anal) she even didn't know this and she didn't blink an eye it made no difference for her. And this is true for the most part of them , though some stars coming back from the States may suggest to avoid being suggested herself , last year apparently there have been some refusal whereas was never a problem before. So yes the key word is USA Edited by - LCF on 5/23/2014 3:29:02 PM [Link] |
| Tobyedison Deactivated User 88 Posts 12/13 | Posted - May 24 2014 : 4:18AM [Link] |
| Dan Senior Member 2056 Posts 6/07 | Posted - May 24 2014 : 6:39AM There is a lot of racial segregation in US-made porn movies, which is decided by porn producers and not by porn stars. And porn producers might not be entirely to blame either. Because they need to produce films that their customers will buy. And if many of their customers are racist, then they need to produce racially segregated movies. [Link] |
| LCF All-Star Member Non Prevalebunt! 10364 Posts 1/05 | Posted - May 24 2014 : 7:19AM This is a learned behaviour , there were even porn stars self declared nazi who hadn't any problem to shoot IR scenes while active Edited by - LCF on 5/24/2014 7:22:50 AM [Link] |
| Tobyedison Deactivated User 88 Posts 12/13 | Posted - May 24 2014 : 8:50AM |
| Tobyedison Deactivated User 88 Posts 12/13 | Posted - May 24 2014 : 8:55AM Edited by - Tobyedison on 5/24/2014 8:57:23 AM [Link] |
| TairyHesticles Member 809 Posts 6/13 | Posted - May 24 2014 : 10:03AM Edited by - TairyHesticles on 5/24/2014 10:04:13 AM [Link] |
| shalalin Senior Member 1734 Posts 11/07 | Posted - May 24 2014 : 11:10AM [Link] |
| LCF All-Star Member Non Prevalebunt! 10364 Posts 1/05 | Posted - May 24 2014 : 3:33PM It meant that a star who refuses IR might have a valid reason other than racism , this is the case of Abby/Anjelica [Link] |
| Tobyedison Deactivated User 88 Posts 12/13 | Posted - May 24 2014 : 3:58PM [Link] |
| Tobyedison Deactivated User 88 Posts 12/13 | Posted - May 24 2014 : 4:02PM [Link] |
| LCF All-Star Member Non Prevalebunt! 10364 Posts 1/05 | Posted - May 24 2014 : 4:06PM I don't know but Lake Russell did plenty when she came in the USA , she was from New Zealand though [Link] |
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| Bobmarblee Senior Member 1462 Posts 3/14 | Posted - May 24 2014 : 4:13PM [Link] |
| Tobyedison Deactivated User 88 Posts 12/13 | Posted - May 24 2014 : 4:20PM [Link] |
| nas1960 Senior Member 1153 Posts 5/13 | Posted - May 24 2014 : 6:28PM Edited by - nas1960 on 5/29/2014 3:37:22 PM [Link] |
| Fireyfox Member 233 Posts 4/02 | Posted - May 24 2014 : 8:31PM Europe, I think is different in that basically they don't give a fuck if you do IR or not. You either want to do it or you don't. They don't really treat you differently either way. For example here in the US,whenever a new girl begins to get noticed or begins to make a name for themselves, one of the first things that they always get asked, whether it be in person, on twitter and other social media, is 'are you going to do IR?, when are you going to start to do IR? Why don't you do IR? are you racist? etc. Somehow I don't think that girls working in the European, Australian, Far East porn industries would be subjected to the same amount of questioning and pressure to do IR as their American counterparts over here. [Link] |
| ghost88 Member 615 Posts 9/13 | Posted - May 25 2014 : 1:22AM [Link] |
| LCF All-Star Member Non Prevalebunt! 10364 Posts 1/05 | Posted - May 25 2014 : 2:13AM And I say I'd need names , because the VAST MAJORITY of the big stars in Europe do IR regularly , Rocco books girls without saying whether the girl will fuck him , Omar Galanti, Kid Jamaica or Mike Chapman and apparently never had a problem to find girls , three years ago Jon Jon went in Europe to shoot and he said the girls were jumping on him , same for Charlie Macc who went in there a year after (for Dogfart) , it's the same thing Mike Chapman keeps saying in his BTS interviews (especially for Russian girls). So if there's a change of heart I wonder what originated this , perhaps the syphilis of July/August 2012 outbreak has a part in it. Or maybe the girls were total newbies in their first scenes , it happens often that a wannabe flees from set when she has to actually do a real shoot or the man either white or black is seen and she doesn't like him , he just maybe too old , or too intimidating That's why names are needed Edited by - LCF on 5/25/2014 2:18:51 AM [Link] |
| nas1960 Senior Member 1153 Posts 5/13 | Posted - May 25 2014 : 2:52AM Edited by - nas1960 on 5/29/2014 3:37:42 PM [Link] |
| Tobyedison Deactivated User 88 Posts 12/13 | Posted - May 25 2014 : 3:53AM [Link] |
| nas1960 Senior Member 1153 Posts 5/13 | Posted - May 25 2014 : 4:00AM Edited by - nas1960 on 5/29/2014 3:37:54 PM [Link] |
| Dan Senior Member 2056 Posts 6/07 | Posted - May 25 2014 : 8:32AM Some European countries are more racially tolerant than others, but you can probably find some racism in every country there, including in countries where people of other races aren't commonly found. A few years ago, I've seen a warning from the US State Department about possible threats to safety of non-white Americans in Ukraine due to racism there. And this is one country that has very few people of other races. [Link] |
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| LCF All-Star Member Non Prevalebunt! 10364 Posts 1/05 | Posted - May 25 2014 : 10:00AM Yes there are racists in Europe , a lot actually but it isn't cultural we don't have countries or areas who are culturally racists or have been in the past (I mean culturally segregationists, Nazism was a short lived period of time here and we still hate it in ways you can't understand) , there's nothing even similar to the Southern States in the USA, there's nothing like the KKK , there are areas who have more racists than others for political reason but in the same areas are some of the most loud anti-racist groups. The only Country recognized as racist is Lithuania , it is in Europe but not part of the EU it's racism will prevent such Country from being accepted , it's just incompatible with our basic rights Edited by - LCF on 5/25/2014 10:01:59 AM [Link] |
| Dragon Sign Deactivated User 3381 Posts 12/13 | Posted - May 25 2014 : 12:59PM [Link] |
| misspornUSA Senior Member I ♥ the male gaze (and Palestine). 8737 Posts 11/13 | Posted - May 25 2014 : 1:33PM As for the Ukraine, the economic crisis has accelerated the growth of fascism in the Western region of that country - as it has in Greece and several other countries - to the point that fascist militias are now able to openly conduct terroristic violence without fear of legal repercussion and fascist Right Sector and Svoboda party members occupy important seats of power in the Ukrainian government. Even Kiev’s National Guard is populated heavily by neo-Nazis. The State Department warning anticipated these disastrous events. Edited by - misspornUSA on 5/25/2014 1:53:39 PM [Link] |
| LCF All-Star Member Non Prevalebunt! 10364 Posts 1/05 | Posted - May 25 2014 : 5:23PM Each Nazi party in Europe has a different reason to exist , in Ukraina rather than racism is their anti-Russia sentiment the trigger to become Nazi, the event of late had greatly increased their numbers In Greece they had back in the 70 a military government , those who were there never paid for that and of course still have leverage for power and are exploiting the situation to get back [Link] |
| Tobyedison Deactivated User 88 Posts 12/13 | Posted - May 25 2014 : 5:33PM [Link] |
| LCF All-Star Member Non Prevalebunt! 10364 Posts 1/05 | Posted - May 25 2014 : 5:40PM True it is defence of the territory rather than true racism , you may see something like that among soccer supporters they hate those who support their rival teams much more than they hate a foreigner [Link] |
| fanman44 Deactivated User 474 Posts 1/13 | Posted - May 25 2014 : 6:01PM [Link] |
| LCF All-Star Member Non Prevalebunt! 10364 Posts 1/05 | Posted - May 25 2014 : 6:17PM That's because he is one of "them" , the very same soccer player would be admired if he changes team going to that of those who despised him previously, but then his former team supporters will begun instead [Link] |
| fanman44 Deactivated User 474 Posts 1/13 | Posted - May 25 2014 : 6:32PM [Link] |
| Jacco All-Star Member "liable to deprave and corrupt" 2673 Posts 5/04 | Posted - May 25 2014 : 6:50PM Jacco [Link] |
| misspornUSA Senior Member I ♥ the male gaze (and Palestine). 8737 Posts 11/13 | Posted - May 25 2014 : 6:59PM [Link] |
| Enjoy it 1 Deactivated User 76 Posts 4/14 | Posted - May 25 2014 : 7:10PM there's always going to be new white women doing ir with black male but i would like to know if there would be a issue with say a indian male doing ir with white women or other non black male doing ir with white women hopefully in the near future ir with other ethnic male + white women emerge to the same level as black male on white female :) [Link] |
| jm6d Member 417 Posts 2/11 | Posted - May 26 2014 : 12:48AM In at least parts of Europe the word race is a big no-no, reminding of Hitler. [Link] |
| LCF All-Star Member Non Prevalebunt! 10364 Posts 1/05 | Posted - May 26 2014 : 2:00AM Each country had a minority of the other race who was discriminated by the majority and the exploited rebelled. No whites involved. And even though there were accusations of illegal weapons dealing , the killing was made mostly with machetes , none of them needed any help they had plenty of knives already Edited by - LCF on 5/26/2014 2:02:01 AM [Link] |
| realtip Deactivated User 2301 Posts 6/04 | Posted - May 26 2014 : 2:21AM Also, it is indeed very rare to find a European porn girl who hasn't done IR. Mostly all of them do it. Not only that, but there is nowhere near as much racial segregation in European porn as there is in American porn. For example, guys like Kid Jamaica and Franco Roccaforte can regularly appear on sites like 21Sextury, LegalPorno, DDF, and others, even though none of them are IR sites. In contrast, black male performers in the U.S. are usually only booked for sites and movies that are specifically IR. Thus, whereas black male performers in Europe can do scenes for major sites there without having to be restricted to only the IR category, black male performers here in the U.S. cannot. Case in point, how often do we see black men being booked for scenes on Brazzers, Mofos, NaughtyAmerica, DigitalPlayground, etc.? In the U.S., if it doesn't say Interracial is big, bold flashing letters, then black men will most likely not be considered for those scenes. This does not appear to be the case in Europe, where they appear to choose male performers based on talent, not on race. So Yes, this IR nonsense only appears to be an issue in American porn. [Link] |
| Jacco All-Star Member "liable to deprave and corrupt" 2673 Posts 5/04 | Posted - May 26 2014 : 2:52AM Jacco [Link] |
| Tobyedison Deactivated User 88 Posts 12/13 | Posted - May 26 2014 : 6:53AM [Link] |
| LCF All-Star Member Non Prevalebunt! 10364 Posts 1/05 | Posted - May 26 2014 : 7:57AM yes , that would be her latest stage name [Link] |
| Smiler Grogan All-Star Member the war cry 14790 Posts 1/08 | Posted - May 26 2014 : 9:48AM The biggest fears expressed by white American women is usually "I'm from the South" and "my father would freak out" so it seems to me, that that is one of the big differences between the US and Europe. [Link] |
| Smiler Grogan All-Star Member the war cry 14790 Posts 1/08 | Posted - May 26 2014 : 10:18AM I've talked about this before: The United States' rather unique history is what makes Black-Caucasian relations such a hot-button issue in general and in the adult world in specific. The US Census bureau defines "interracial" purely as any and all ethnicities and the largest incident of IR marriage in that case is White Men with Oriental Women. That is something that rarely raises an eyebrow in the US. White and Black romantic relationships are widely acceptable but there's still a sizable segment of the populace that does not and will never endorse them. And that's what drives the IR controversies in porn.If an oriental or indian guy with a Lex-sized dick comes on the scene, he'll get work. But to be clear, again, its the "taboo" aspect of Black men with White girls in this country, that is what many porn IR fans are into. [Link] |
| jm6d Member 417 Posts 2/11 | Posted - May 26 2014 : 12:48PM [Link] |
| Smiler Grogan All-Star Member the war cry 14790 Posts 1/08 | Posted - May 26 2014 : 1:12PM But as far as I know, there's not too many actresses that do IR, but will not do XYZ Sex Act with a BM, but would do that same sex act with a WM. Usually whatever acts a girl is willing to do, she'll do with any dude she's willing to work with. (Exceptions might include some girlfriend-boyfriend acting couples) I could be wrong. Someone else might have to answer this. Edited by - Smiler Grogan on 5/26/2014 1:14:26 PM [Link] |
| jm6d Member 417 Posts 2/11 | Posted - May 26 2014 : 1:58PM [Link] |
| LCF All-Star Member Non Prevalebunt! 10364 Posts 1/05 | Posted - May 26 2014 : 2:56PM It is important to notice that nobody stressed the fact that Danny D is very big and Jasmine Webb is black so almost reversing one of the most common IR cliche in the USA. Also there are Russian sites who often put Edic/Eric a black Russian talent in there without stressing this , abusive sex is not deemed to be particularly related to blacks like in the USA , it is mostly passion or lust [Link] |
| franco Deactivated User 766 Posts 1/08 | Posted - May 26 2014 : 4:11PM [Link] |
| franco Deactivated User 766 Posts 1/08 | Posted - May 26 2014 : 4:15PM [Link] |
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