Oh ok, cool I take your word for it as the newly appointed Asian penis expert! LOL! :D All I can take away from your generalization is that having the "equipment" is determined by race and that race in turn determines the market success of the porn. Nothing to do with the actual sex then?
You tell me. You tell me what you think the general population of porn viewers is looking for, since you obviously know something that I don't. You're obviously looking for a fight over a really stupid issue, and you'd better have it with someone else since I'm not playing your little game anymore.
No one is trying to start a fight, except maybe you. People can disagree and still have a civil conversation. Seems to be something some folks are having a hard time grasping right now.
Oh chill, I was actually just making light humor from your massive generalization.. sorry that you seem to be taking it so seriously. I should learn to type with more obvious sarcasm! I never meant to offend u, as I'm sure your original comment never meant to offend the mass of Asian porn consumers and/or Asian male performers! Truce?
pornography wasn't sex but fantasies of an impossibly hospitable world 12377 Posts 9/07
Posted - Dec 27 2009 : 9:06AM
The average white guy doesn't have a huge dick but most of the male performers in porn are larger than average, so similarly it wouldn't be too hard to find well endowed asian performers. I've seen a number of asian guys in JAV who are at least as well endowed as Joey Silvera, John Leslie, Anthony Rosano, Mr. Pete, etc. Certainly some of the guys in JAV are small-dicked but then you get the feeling that those guys are just in the flick because they have connections or are funding the video, not because they're great performers: ie. they're the asian version of Ed Powers. BTW someone needs to do a porn version of the Hanzo the Razor. Just throwing that out there. Wow, that's a lot of dick talk.
pornography wasn't sex but fantasies of an impossibly hospitable world 12377 Posts 9/07
Posted - Dec 27 2009 : 9:09AM
The only white guy to support IR? I guess you've never seen a video by Joey Silvera, Jake Malone, John Leslie, William H or Rocco?
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Vivid Suck Deactivated User
29 Posts 12/09
Posted - Dec 27 2009 : 12:19PM
I forgot about those guys, they make good IR movies too. But I am boycott all of Lex movie from his company and my money isn't go to his pocket. Not stay true to your IR fanbase will hurt you in the long run and that is why IR fans will buy anything IR movies from WCP, Black Ice, Julie Jordan, Evil Angel, and Justin Slayers. Lex haven't won an AVA for Best Male Performer since he started his company.
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sisophous Deactivated User
21 Posts 12/09
Posted - Dec 27 2009 : 12:39PM
I have no problem with Lexington Steele's comment. He was sincere and made the point that the adult industry is a business, not a place for politics. I resent all the political correctness our American society now shoves down our throats on a daily basis. It goes on to no end and I don't want it in porn. Supply and Demand, a Business concept dictates what will be produced and what will sell. As another person wisely pointed out earlier in this thread, you rarely ever see a Male Asian matched with a Female Caucasian because it is not in much demand.
Truce, my friend. You're right I did overreact, and I was thinking to myself "I hope this guy is joking". I did make an over generalization and I wasn't very diplomatic when I made it. But I still think that most consumers buy into the generalization or stereotype and that's why there isn't much of a market for it.
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Vivid Suck Deactivated User
29 Posts 12/09
Posted - Dec 27 2009 : 1:31PM
It also making your fan happy but Lexington Steele is losing his IR fanbase because of his bussiness wise. If you go to the IR-Tube forum where IR is mostly talked about they will bash Lex in a mintue. My money isn't going into Lexington Steele pocket.
Agreed! Yes the stereotype is deeply rooted especially within the US market but thank fully for the assumed 'smaller' pun intended Asian consumer base here, things-a-changin! :D
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Posted - Dec 27 2009 : 3:53PM
the reason asian men/white women movies don't sell it's because there aren't that many asian men to buy it, most people interested in seeing AM/WF porn are asian men (just like most people who like interracial are black men) so since there isn't a huge asian population in europe or in the americas AM/WF isn't that popular, it's very popular in asian countries though.
Probably because you don't know how to operate complex machines. But I think in the end you will need one to take care of your personal hygiene. That is the price you pay for having a small dick. Edited: "a" and "small" switched. Edited by - wargamer on 12/27/2009 5:06:33 PM
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TeganLovesSara Deactivated User
Are you smoking yet? 252 Posts 12/09
Posted - Dec 27 2009 : 5:00PM
thats actually untrue. that's is one the biggest misconceptions that i see floated around on various boards. believe it or not the majority of ir fans, are white males.
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IR Fan 2K Deactivated User
6 Posts 12/09
Posted - Dec 27 2009 : 5:04PM
Not true, I am black and I am a fan of IR movies myself.
It has been demonstrated that most buyers of BMWF porn are white males, though in terms of the proportion of IR to the rest, the black male segment has the highest ratio. It works the same way as normal sized males' watching midget male - normal sized female porn. As for the lack of Asian male performers, I look at it from another angle. You don't see too many Arab or Persian males either.(I wanted to mention Indians too but some may claim that they too have small dicks so I excluded them for the sake of argument) It is normal. It is a market dominated by white male buyers so naturally the industry will cater to their taste. What is odd actually is the popularity of Asian females, not the absence of Asian male performers. Asian females are disproportionately represented compared with other minorities like Indian, Arab, Gypsy females etc. Even if Asian men had a bit bigger penises it would not have helped them at all in terms of gaining a foothold in the industry. Actually Asian man's success in the scientific and financial sector works against them in the industry. If they were really hideous they would have found a niche as a freak show much like midget and dwarf males do. And once again white males would have been the principal buyers.
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IR Fan 2K Deactivated User
6 Posts 12/09
Posted - Dec 27 2009 : 5:11PM
Well there are some black who buy IR movies too, you don't see it but they do. Trust me on it.
Even know I don't like what Lex is doing but Sean michael is better then Lex because he have been in porn for 21 years. as for this thread it need to be lock before anything bad happen.
To elaborate on my point... What if black men were smaller than white?... I think BMWF still would have been popular. Not as much as they are now but they would have enjoyed certain niche in the industry. Conversely as they make more social progress, the taboo aspect, hence their popularity will wane. With Black President we already see some of this. BMWF is less taboo now and more black producers are in the industry, so more IR movies are made. But at the same time it is in a way "less exciting". Most of black people's progress so far has been political. When they make a definitive progress in the academic and scientific world, that will be the final blow to the popularity of BMWF porn. Currently not many white males perform in Japanese AV but if Whites really screw up to the extent they are definitely considered inferior you will see far more white males in Japanese AV... as a lowly inferior beastly white man violating pristine Japanese womanhood. P.S. Now I see the mod's note but my piece,though off-topic, is a well thought-out one that needs to be put in somewhere. Actually I am pretty much in line with many black activists who researched this subject thoroughly. Edited by - wargamer on 12/27/2009 5:39:05 PM
He's a businessman, he's got to make some kind of nest for himself for insurance when he retires from the industry. I wonder what he's worth. Who is worth more: Lex, Vince Voyeur or Peter North?
It's pretty obvious to me that a majority of IR fans are white. Look at the differences in how the all black porn and IR porn are often done and it's clear they are not done with the same audiance in mind. IR is done by a wide range of major studios, while all black is usually done by spacific ones that focus in large part on the genre. Cuckold, cheating wives, the girl whose daddy told her to stay away from black dick, all fantasies designed with mostly a white audiance in mind. I'm really not sure how it's even a debate who watches more IR whites or blacks. I doubt it's even close. Black guys watch it I'm sure, but by no means are all porn wathcing African Americans deeply in love with the genre.
It's not just that William H guy, also that Mason woman. Not one BM/WF scene in either Massive Asses or Curvy Girls. And I'm guessing it's not just because they mostly use IR-dodgers for their movies like Alexis Texas, Jenny Hendrix, Kristina Rose, Kagney Linn Karter and Sunny Lane for example.
That is a very interesting topic of discussion. I hear performers say that a good number of fans who ask them about IR are white,however I noticed on porn forums that almost all the guys who complain about girls not doing IR are black and every once in a while hispanics and asians. When it comes to performers, the only male performers I have heard speak against blacks being singled out are hispanics...I have never heard a white male performer denounce what black men go through in porn.Some will say Jules...but I've never really heard him say anything about it. He had contributed a lot to the IR genre but he had been quiet. Even that asian performer has spoken kindly on the issue too. To be honest with you, I don't know who buys IR more. I heard many store owners talk about how a vast majority of their white customers get offended by IR products. I'm not talking about not buying IR. I'm talking about them getting straight up offended by that thing being put on the shelves. So I find it hard to believe that many white guys watch it and don't forget that there is a lot of hispanic guys in this country too. If you add black and hispanics, I'm pretty sure they make up a high percentage of IR consumers. Edited by - Nimrod on 12/28/2009 8:19:10 PM
Even the white females who have been vocal on the "black man problem" in the porn are Europeans. Katja, Anette, Monica,Silvia,...are the ones who openly talked about it and all of them are from Europe.
I bet most of the guys on the forums are white guys pretending to be black Nimrod. A few performers have commented that it is always white guys asking about IR. On the real raptalk forum it is mostly black guys posting. The guys over on that forum are more interested if the girl has got a big booty. Girls like CherokeeD'Ass and Pinky are very popular on that forum.
Honestly to much is made of this. Maybe she is not attracted to black guys? This is alwyas made into a big deal, it is just the wmans prefrence, move on.
pornography wasn't sex but fantasies of an impossibly hospitable world 12377 Posts 9/07
Posted - Dec 30 2009 : 5:44AM
Slutwoman 2 is from 2008. Mason doesn't exactly grind them out, she only made seven films in 2009 and that is nearly as prolific as she has ever been. Also, there is an IR scene with Tori Black (with Marie Luv and Ice Cold) in Pretty Filthy. I would suspect that the performer would have to be doing IR to shoot it with Mason. Edited by - BlackSix on 12/30/2009 5:51:10 AM
I'm Black I buy interracial, white on white and Black on Black, but most Black men I know who are really into porn buy Black on Black porn. There's too much anal in White porn for your average Black man. And Black on Black porn has many girls Whites may consider fat and Black porn may be a little too ass centric for your average White male.
I got to admit I was a big fan of Lexington Steele BAck in the Anabolic Diabolic days, even in the Redlight district days The scene from superwhores with Avy Scott is one of the classic all time scenes in porn, but In my opinion Lex isn't the man he used to be not becasue he can't perform, but he's gotten too arrogant. he focuses on himself too much. How many times have we seen a hot chick in a LEx movie shaking her ass showing her tits then along comes Lex in some silk Pajamas and shades mugging in the background. just because he won some awards he seems to think we buy Dvd's to see him. His movies over at mercenary don't appeal to me. The Dvd covers look cheap and the action is captured as well as other directors over at Jules Jordan, Evil Angel or Justin Slayer I feel that has contributed to his lackluster sales more than any interracial lovers boycott. And as for is Lex a sell out? Hell no. I'm a Black Business Grad and if I had a porn company I would try to leave no fetsish untouched. If some White girls didn't want to be in one of my interracial movies cool put her in a anal movie with a White guy and I still get money off it. This is how you make money in a capitalist society.
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jni1973 Deactivated User
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Posted - Feb 19 2010 : 9:32AM
I think that he came of that way in his comments, being that I read so my interviews with him diss'n all those white chicks that didn't want to work with him. To me that what a Sell Out is, someone who changes their views as soon as the money and the awards start coming in.
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Mojo Deactivated User
1223 Posts 9/03
Posted - Feb 19 2010 : 10:53AM
Maybe some girls treat having sex at work like having sex in private. Maybe they'll only do a sex scene with someone they fancy, and maybe some white girls just don't fancy black men.
I agree with him 100%. He is just beng a smart business man and in today's economy,I for applaud him.
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Ida Lupino Deactivated User
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Posted - May 5 2010 : 2:35AM
He gets $150/scene. Hardly a sellout.
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Ass fucking/ foot fetish/ pantyhose= insanity! 465 Posts 3/10
Posted - May 5 2010 : 1:53PM
I always wanted to see an Asian woman in sheer stockings take Lex balls deep in RCA as her feet were well captured on his legs. It has never happened. He learned right from the get-go at ANABOLIC that this was never to happen. His performance in Jules Jordan's "Heavy Metal 2" with Alexandria Nice came close to accomplishing this (minus the stockings and the Asian factor), and went to best picture of the year. When he formed Mercenary Pictures (or whatever), it was right around the time we invaded Iraq. I thought to myself, he's one of those kind of Black men...a puppet for conditioning Black men to accept the concept of war and military. I mean seriously, what the fuck does "mercenary" have to do with sex? What does he do with all the people he kills? Not only do I think he's a sell-out, I think he's a pied-piping puppet.
Lexington Steele @ AEBN
Posted - Dec 26 2009 : 9:43PM
