I wanna see a 'Human Centipede' anal creampie. The first girl pushes the creampie into the second's mouth, who spit it into the third's ass, who pushes it back into the first girl's mouth.
Guys, I need help with a question. I'm needing to redo my Jay Sin library and I'm wondering which is the better site to re subscribe to. Jay Sin XXX or Evil Angel? Does Evil Angel have the complete Jay library including the Behind the scenes, deleted scenes, etc?
I know Jay's site has all this, but, of course Evil Angel has plenty other good anal stuff. Seems to me EA, if it has all Jay's stuff plus other, it would be best. But I certainly need all of Jay's stuff including the deleted and BTS stuff.
im with the evil angel site have been bout 7 8 years mainly stay for all of jays archives plus some great adriano stuff too.........its virtually all there just a few bits and bobs missing from the early days i think GL1 and AA1 and maybe couple other early titles are not there but everything else is there, so many classic scenes for me its worth staying a member...........BRS
I resubscribed to EA to get all of Jay's content. What the fuck is up with the censoring of the G/G anal fisting in his videos? Everything else is there. Four fingers in the ass--fine. Soon as the thumb goes in, it's blurred out. WTF?!
^ That is because John Stagliano doesn't want to go to federal prison for four years on an "obscenity" conviction, Max Hardcore did years ago. He's being overly cautious because of the lack of a clear definition of what constitutes "obscenity" in the American legal system. (One judge famously offered the ironclad super-clear definition of "I know it when I see it.")
Edited by - evilpineapples on 6/28/2019 3:25:52 PM
not wanting to derail the thread but now i´m confused. In my understanding of "american law logic" it is not allowed on physical media but on the internet you can pretty much shove in
everything that fits. And why can some studios show it and EA can not ?
^I don't even think that there is an actual law that prevents it on hard media but since hard media can be shipped to various States and these States may have different ideas of what constitutes obscene material than it's best to be cautious. Especially since EA as already been accused of producing obscene material and it really wasn't.
EA could probably allow that type of material if they were an internet only site but not if they still sale their movies on hard media. There is too much danger that some of their internet only content winds up on a hard media disk.
That's basically correct. There's no actual law defining obscene material anywhere, as far as I know. The benchmark established by case law is that "community standards" define obscenity, which vary widely in different regions of the country, as you say. The kicker is that these "local standards" are not written down anywhere and are defined by the jury on a case-by-case basis, which makes it a very dicey legal minefield for porn distributors.That's the popular consensus - but again, none of this is written down anywhere and it's 100 percent defined by case law, and I'm not sure that the court has ever delivered a specific opinion regarding online distribution. The *legal consensus* is that online distribution is held to a different standard than physical distribution, but I don't think that has ever been tested in court. Since they have run afoul of obscenity accusations in the past, EA plays it safe and censors certain content (i.e. fisting) regardless of how it is being distributed.It's too complicated to explain in detail here (believe me, this is the simplified version), but there are two legal distinctions to consider first.
1) The United States has a two-tiered legal system. Federal law is the highest standard, which takes precedence over everything else, and anything that isn't covered by federal law is subject to state law. There are fifty U.S. states, so as you can imagine, matters of state law can get pretty complicated.
2) There are two types of law in the United States. The first is statutory law, which are laws written by elected officials and passed either at the federal law (by Congress), or at the state level (by a state legislature). The second is case law, which exists when there is no statutory law on a particular topic. Case law is defined by the outcome of previous court cases on the topic in question, and it can also apply at either the federal or state level, depending on whether the cases were tried in a federal or state court.
Still with me? Okay.
The topic of obscenity falls within the purview of federal case law. The penalty for creating and distributing obscene materials is set at the federal level, *however*, just to make things as confusing as possible, the federal government leaves it up to each individual state to determine how to *define* obscenity. This is called the "community standards" test, and some brilliant judge devised it many decades ago because he thought it was the best way to ensure that each community can protect its own interests, so those heathen city-dwellers in Los Angeles can partake in whatever godless perversions they desire without forcing it on the rest of the country.
At least, that was the idea in theory...
In practice, all it has done is made things extremely vague and potentially dangerous for people in the adult entertainment industry, because there is no unified definition of obscenity. It depends on the *state* in which you are being prosecuted, and even then, the states do not have written definitions of obscenity, so it's really up to each individual jury. That's a fucking minefield for potential legal troubles, so as a result, most American porn companies choose to play it safe and steer clear of known "problem areas" (like fisting, watersports, etc...).
However, since there is no actual written definition of obscenity, there are more daring porn companies who are willing to push the boundaries and publish that stuff anyway, but they are tempting fate. We saw what happened to Max Hardcore, who was tried and convicted on obscenity charges for the style of pornography he was distributing. His case had *nothing* to do with whether the performers gave their consent to be in his videos or how the performers were being treated. It was entirely, 100 percent, a question of whether his videos were "obscene", and sadly for him, the jury decided that they were. So he went to federal prison for several years because his pornography failed the "community standards" test which I described earlier.
Long story short - Middle America thinks fisting will send you to Hell & they're willing to send otherwise law-abiding citizens to prison to prove it.
thaks for the good explanation. However ... what makes it so weird in my eyes is ... any porn company does not send their stuff to any place because they just wanna flood the place.
They send it there because someone knowingly ordered it and then they are being held responsible for it ? Thats so fucked up. Its like prosecuting a knife or gun company because
someone got killed with their product. Community standards ... ha ... whatever happend to "privacy of your own home" ? And if i have other "standards" does it mean i have to relocate ?
Strange land ... this America. But dont get mad :) i heard some things from Canada that i cant believe either
^^You may be right but Max Hardcore might disagree with you that Middle America is the main culprit because Florida is definitely not Middle America and that is the State that basically sent him to prison.
^Let me offer a counter argument to your gun/knife statement. Many pharmaceutical companies have been sued for producing a product that was both tested and approved by the FDA and the reason why they were sued was mostly because the product was advertised in such a way that there was abuse. This is less likely to be the case for knives but I argue that gun manufacturers have advertised their product in such a way that there has been abuse and the consequences of those abuse usually wind up on the news and in multiple deaths. Granted I don't think this applies to adult entertainment.
P.S: If you have any questions about this weird Country known as Canada then go ahead and ask them because I might have the answer seeing as I'm Canadian.
As I said before, I subscribed to Evil Angel to get all of Jay's catalogue to redo my porn library. I've downloaded all of his stuff (and several other things), but how in the world do you cancel your subscription? I can't find anything on the site telling me how to do that. I really need to know, I've only got one more day before it bills me again.
I haven't had an EA subscription in years, but who do you bill through? CCBill? You can probably contact the billing company directly and cancel your subscription that way.
Sheena really is one of a kind. Not only does she have wonderful pussy and ass muscles ... her voice can get you off too. I would love to see her in person to witness her kinks close by ... and probably faint right on the spot lol
We have not heard any news in a very long time. He is still producing his trans lines, but as we all know, that's not him behind the camera, and it is not the style most of us want to see here in this thread.
So, another legend bows out. Thank you, Jay Sin, for everything you gave us over the years. I hope you come back some day. Enjoy married life!
After following Sheena on her personal website and the last several scenes released with her I would absolutely recommend her as future director of the "Jay Sin" genre! I for one think she could carry that torch. What do you think Jay?
the biggest disapointment is there is nobody to fill jays shoes all the lesbian content out there mostly is very nice but just too tame i still dont get why someone else didnt take over with all of jays classic series GL LGL AA etc etc you never know maybe jay will return in the future or another director will sort it all out,for me a massive void left in the porn world the last couple of years or so..............BRS
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^yes I think only a couple months old. Some good stuff, I think Angela White did an Ask Me Anything there. Seemed like a small but active group of posters.
the prospect of this for next year is mouthwateringly exciting,jane wilde is my fave pornstar at the moment she would be perfect for all of jays series especially lil gaping lesbians she is so cute and is superbly natural in front of the camera, i hope jay really is returning to fill the void thats still in the porn world...........BRS
I get the impression Gamma took over Evil Angel... I guess the golden days of independent porncompanies is over and we only can choose between Mc Donalds and Burgerking