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WhiteBOY
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305 Posts
11/06
Posted - Nov 4 2007 : 5:56PM
I am seriousely considering throwing away all my Plat X/ Red light district dvd's IN PROTEST of these companies massive use of this lame robot. I personally think this man is very annoying,killing all heat at once. Never have I see this performer adding any chemistry or heat to a scene. It's just "slam, bam thank you m'am" with a machinelike, mechanical power. Even Dirty Harry becomes a sensual, romantic, french poet in comparison.
Today I saw a BTS from a movie which mr Everhard directed, where JS walks around like a cattle, farting several times in a room, and sending females in there, without them knowing of these toxic protein gases. Every time camera turns to John Strong, he looks away, walks away or answering in two-word sentences... Hell, my left big-toe has way more charisma.
My wish for christmas: the retirement of John Strong, or that he switches over to another career.
Edited by - WhiteBoy on Nov 4 2007
RandomPrecision
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Enjoy!
8175 Posts
3/06
Posted - Nov 4 2007 : 6:40PM
I don't mind him. he's not as bad as some others. At least he stays hard. I could see why some people might not be thrilled with him but really, there are worse.
phatasslover
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195 Posts
6/07
Posted - Nov 4 2007 : 7:10PM
I totally agree with you.
John Strong needs to be booted out of the industry.
He is utter crap. He is basically a wannabe Erik Everhard but much more annoying and with a much smaller dick. Who the hell cares if he can stay hard, his cock is like 6 inches. We want to see chicks getting fucked by big dicks, not little boys.
Joel
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331 Posts
5/05
Posted - Nov 4 2007 : 7:40PM
Hey is a decent director.
Dislike him as a performer. There are countless males I dislike though. There are a shit load of ugly guys in porn, who add fuck all to a scene.
shellshock91
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663 Posts
1/05
Posted - Nov 4 2007 : 7:42PM
Big fan of some of his earlier stuff, but as the years have gone by, I still have too much dislike for Red Light to get interested again. I know that's rather corny, but I don't care.
 
RandomPrecision
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8175 Posts
3/06
Posted - Nov 4 2007 : 7:47PM
I think alot of people care if the dude can stay hard or not. Again, there are a lot worse. Strong may be middle of the road to a lot of people but he's reliable. If all you care about is seeing the chick impaled by a large instrument, you can get that by watching G/G strap on flicks.
If you're trying to make porn better by getting rid of the guys who aren't up to snuff, John Strong wouldn't be my first choice for guys who need to go. It baffles me why people hate him so much. Again, not my favorite but he's really not that bad either.
MythMaker
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919 Posts
7/07
Posted - Nov 4 2007 : 9:22PM
I can't say I hate John Strong as I am not very familiar with his stud capabilities, but in general I agree that there needs to be a certain leve of sensuality involved in any good scene - even if it leads to a DA/Creampie/Cum Gargling finish. Titles and male performers that deliver a brief tease, straight to anal pounding/A2M/jack hammer/A2M/ throat fucking/facial is boring. Don't get me wrong, I fucking looooove all of those elements in a scene, and they are the points that elevate an average scene to a great, even classic status. But, and I've said this in many reviews, the on screen chemistry must translate to me as a viewer, and I want to see lots of tease/dirty talk, oral, rimming, and kissing before and hopefully during the scenes! That's just me, perhaps. If John Strong doesn't work for you, my advice would be to skip his scenes or not buy titles where he is the primary performer.
I get the problem of looking forward to a title, salivating over the director and talent, then finding the pairings burst the bubble - drag! But nowadays, there is so much material out there, which drops in price so quickly, that it really is a consumer friendly market. Pick and choose, burn your own "boner-jams"!!
Billy Brown
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68 Posts
11/07
Posted - Nov 5 2007 : 1:39AM
dude...i have to agree. i watched a scene with him tonight with ryder skye and the guy sucked the personality out of my balls from across the room. i don't know how any girl can muster up the energy to act like they enjoy fucking that guy. i guess these girls are better actors than they seem. he might be a nice guy but damn dude...bring something to the scene! drink a red bull or something!
ragingbull
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404 Posts
5/07
Posted - Nov 5 2007 : 2:41AM
yeah he sucks, I don't like EE either he seems to want to make every scene about him, with him talking
RLD and PXP are lame now, it like generic porn
Endless Loop
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Posted - Nov 5 2007 : 7:49AM
JS used to irritate the hell out of me as well, but to be fair, I think he became a product of RLD and PXP's once stringent adherence to formulaic content.
I would speculate, the guy was the consumate porn workhorse, who always did what he was told to do, with nary a single thought to move outside the box.
Unlike so many aspiring mopes, who invariably freestyle their own bullshit into a performance, he didn't, thus rarely fucked up, and while it obviously pleased his directors, who seemingly came to rely on this highly dependable, conscientious observance of the duties at hand, and ONLY those duties, his journeyman mentality soon came to haunt his ass, with stifling predictability.
So, when the Bros.Whimm eventually left for greener, and "eviler" pastures, and RLD looked to JS to compensate for the exodus of direction, was it totally unexpected that we'd be harping on his initial efforts, as strongly predictable rehash?
Whatever the case, I wouldn't give up entirely on him just yet, as I've been encouraged by some of his most recent directorial work, revealing an effort to address this very criticism, which at the very least would suggest a quick learner, or perhaps more importantly, an even quicker observer.
...and besides, he puts out "Overflowing Assholes" which certifies robofuck protection under the Hardcore Anal Society's Endangered Species Act.
Edited by - Endless Loop on 11/6/2007 3:54:29 PM
_swede_
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579 Posts
4/05
Posted - Nov 5 2007 : 8:13AM
yeah, I agree. I think he should retire ASAP
Schmse
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2571 Posts
6/04
Posted - Nov 5 2007 : 8:41AM
I don'T like him, too. In a gangbang movie he's ok, because he fucks hard. But I never ever want to see a 1 on 1 scene with him.
He just has no balls.
Roger Herraw
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415 Posts
2/06
Posted - Nov 5 2007 : 12:07PM
he's very robotic and boring, but I'd rather see him than Mr Pete or Mark Wood, he's the lesser of three evils, lol.
WhiteBOY
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305 Posts
11/06
Posted - Nov 5 2007 : 2:06PM
Thanks for answers and shared opinions :-)
Remember that I don't talk about other performers, I tolk about JS. This guy is in A TON of scenes, and it is almost impossible to avoid him, if you ever bought some dvds from Diabolic, Anabolic, Red light, Plat X or even good ol' evil angel...
He is just bad, I don't like his performance, and he takes all the fun and heat away from every porn-scene. I think porn develops in a wrong direction letting people like John Strong, Del Toro, Tony T and Chico Wang direct movies. I don't mind rough sex, but do these guys add anything in front or behind camera?
I am trying to avoid scenes and dvd's with John Strong, and I am hoping more of you would do the same, maybe the producers and moguls will listen to us, if we be many enough. I am not trying to erase diversity in porn valley, it's just that mr Strong have had all his chances, and then some.
leatherdick
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263 Posts
5/07
Posted - Nov 5 2007 : 2:20PM
Are you sure it is that big I would say he was about 5. But anyway size is no guarantee of quality. Jamie Gillis now there was a porn actor for ya. Not exactly the most well hung porn star. He would really bring out the inner passion in his scenes. One of my faves is him as Mr Luigi screwing Traci Lords. That is one of the best porno scenes ever shot. Anyone else seen it?
But these new guys are generally fucking awful. That John Strong looks braindead and Mr Pete looks like what we in England would term as a scrot or a chav. The American equivalent would be trailer trash. It doesn't matter how much I like a girl certain guys can really ruin a scene.
 
phatasslover
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195 Posts
6/07
Posted - Nov 5 2007 : 2:53PM
Personally I dont really have a problem with Mr. Pete. I think Mark Wood is actually one of the better male performers out there. He doesnt bring any attitude, he just fucks the women and is a pretty good director as well.
John Strong though...seriously he is so annoying. You can tell that over the years, he has tried to act like his buddy Erik Everhard. Except with a 5 inch cock, doesnt really work. Also you can tell that the girls actually dig fucking Everhard unlike JS.
BobArctor
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276 Posts
4/06
Posted - Nov 5 2007 : 10:00PM
awful
Porn Scout
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3735 Posts
10/02
Posted - Nov 5 2007 : 10:31PM
I don't know how many times I've voiced this same grievance on ADT. I try my best to avoid him, but it's become almost impossible to buy an RLD or PXP title that he ISN'T in, which is why I mostly don't buy those DVDs anymore. I do write some reviews for DVDs from those companies, but only when I can get a screener.
Jen1988
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8 Posts
4/07
Posted - Nov 6 2007 : 2:21AM
John Strong ruins so many movies for me. he is by far the most annoying male talent out there. He really does need to go.
Lonborg
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114 Posts
1/03
Posted - Nov 6 2007 : 2:47AM
If you get bored watching one of his scenes, just count how many times he says baby to the girl he's with. I did that once. It was over 50!

Edited by - Lonborg on 11/6/2007 2:47:47 AM

007
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1246 Posts
4/03
Posted - Nov 6 2007 : 3:27AM
I remember reading a blog entry on Roxy Deville's myspace page. Supposedly he was very, very disrespectful to her off camera.
Milwaukee_Porn_Addict
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25 Posts
10/07
Posted - Nov 6 2007 : 11:52AM
Great observation.
I was going to say that if you have a 30 minute scene with him in it, you can count on hearing "baby" about 235 times.
Mr. Pete
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good god
17 Posts
1/07
Posted - Nov 6 2007 : 1:54PM
Mr. Pete
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good god
17 Posts
1/07
Posted - Nov 6 2007 : 2:02PM
Im far from scrot or a chav thats for sure, check my tax bracket. I love the girls that i get to work with and for the most part I love my work. sorry to here this negative stuff about myself. But I try to be as acceptable as possible. Thanks for watching my stuff anyways. cheers!
conquistador
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Hellhamster.
2947 Posts
10/03
Posted - Nov 6 2007 : 2:03PM
I was not the poster of that statement but I will chime in for Mr. Pete.
I like your stuff, the only thing I could possibly think of is that sometimes it looks like you are deep in thought during scenes. My only advice is to smile and look a bit happier to be doing what you are doing.
But, I want to say again that I think you are a solid performer and I realize that to do what you do may involve a different facial expression for you then it would for me, I would be drooling.
 
Endless Loop
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8/04
Posted - Nov 6 2007 : 2:52PM
Not sure why the hate on Mr. Pete.
Anybody who works over a tandem of Trinity, and Roxy Jezel as deftly as he did in Share the Load 2, is suitable for the role in my book.
ryderskye
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88 Posts
9/07
Posted - Nov 6 2007 : 2:58PM
I never worked with John Strong??? Maybe you have the wrong Ryder?
leatherdick
Member

In the Court of the Crimson King
263 Posts
5/07
Posted - Nov 6 2007 : 4:14PM
Mark Ashley is a great performer.
WhiteBOY
Member

305 Posts
11/06
Posted - Nov 6 2007 : 5:18PM
This train---eh tread is going off track! I wanted to state my opinions about John Strong.
Not Mr Pete, of whom I think really enjoys his work. No grudge against him at all.
Roger Herraw
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415 Posts
2/06
Posted - Nov 6 2007 : 7:18PM
Mr. Pete wrote:
it's nothing personal, I just don't enjoy your performing style, the only scene I enjoyed of yours is the one in Squirters with Persia Decarlo.
brewski
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208 Posts
6/07
Posted - Nov 6 2007 : 7:41PM
I would love to see all the male talent quit, and then listen to all these jerk-off dopes cry for mommy!

Mr. Pete
Member

good god
17 Posts
1/07
Posted - Nov 6 2007 : 7:45PM
Thanks alot WhiteBoy for having my back! Sorry for getting your thread off track. I'm done best wishes to all and thanks for the goood words.
Edited by - Mr. Pete on 11/6/2007 7:46:36 PM
dazer
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8 Posts
11/07
Posted - Nov 6 2007 : 8:35PM
I don't mind John Strong at all. I think he brings a lot of energy into the scene. But I do agree with some people here about Mr.Pete, he does look like trailer park trash and is a lame performer with a small cock.
Pagoda
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1747 Posts
10/05
Posted - Nov 6 2007 : 8:40PM
John Strong is one of my least favorite performers. I actively avoid scenes that include him. If the girl is hot, I might watch him in a 1-on-1 scene, but when he shares a girl with another guy, he's unwatchable.
Bob All-Star Supporter
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5516 Posts
3/03
Posted - Nov 6 2007 : 9:00PM
I can't stand watching him. I avoid his videos like the plague.
He and Michael Stefano have turned the standing DP into the epitome of porn banality.
As a director, he completely lacks imagination and creativity. He ruins the only thing he has some flair for, which is casting.
As a performer, he's boring, faceless, passionless, brutal. He doesn't make love to women or passionately fuck them -- he annihilates them.
 
MythMaker
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Jada... the best thing in porn
919 Posts
7/07
Posted - Nov 6 2007 : 9:09PM
Oddly enough, there are probably more than a few consumers of adult material who find that kind of detached, all business, use the girl for the hole type domination the reason for the turn on. Some of us want to be immersed in the fantasy and feel like the girl is being pleasured, and for others the girl is simply and only an object. In that kind of situation, it may even be possible the viewer is watching precisely for the male performer, and it's the girl that's the prop. Something to think about.
Bob All-Star Supporter
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3/03
Posted - Nov 6 2007 : 9:25PM
Something to think about? Believe me, I have. [xx)]
skronker
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9/02
Posted - Nov 6 2007 : 10:58PM
I met Mr. Pete in a social setting off-set, and he's totally down ... I always thought he was one of the better guys, and he sure seems to love women.
I could generate a long list of male performers who ruin scenes for me, but in the end I think the slogan "don't hate the player, hate the game" applies ... These guys are taking advantage of the assembly line nature of the industry, and the gift/curse of Viagra/caverjet/etc. ... and that's the standard. I've sat with producers frantically trying to find the "best" male performer to match with a girl for a scene and observed how frustrating it is to make the ideal booking. On one day, the location was booked, the makeup artist was doing up the girl, the food was in the kitchen, the photographer was on the way, and you've got people frantically dialing on indifferent cel phones trying to secure talent. Whoever shows up is whoever shows up and you hope it works.
No matter what anyone posts to the contrary, I think about 90% of the porn scenes you see in gonzo certainly are random pairings. The reason somebody like a John Strong is in so many scenes is because he CAN BE in scenes all the time. For me as a viewer, I just don't watch as much porn as I used to because I do get tired of seeing the same guys and the same set-ups. And personalities and performance tics and whatever stuff gets said repeatedly ... yeah, tiresome, but, you know, if you don't want to see dudes go rent a lesbian movie. It's a simple solution.
Savoy All-Star Supporter
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12/06
Posted - Nov 6 2007 : 11:05PM
Oh god. At one point halfway through a b/b/g scene, he is fucking and kissing the girl forever. The other guy just throws his hands up in the air and steps out of frame. You can hear him say "There's nothing for me to do, man."
Deep kissing a girl after she's sucked another guys' cock? That doesn't bother me so much, but come on, it's a b/b/g. Each boy needs a hole or at the very least a hand. You can't hog it all! It seems he's oblivious to the concept of teamwork.
Beaumont Livingston
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113 Posts
9/05
Posted - Nov 6 2007 : 11:32PM
Never been a fan of John Strong, way too small, very boring scenes ususally.
Bob All-Star Supporter
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5516 Posts
3/03
Posted - Nov 6 2007 : 11:34PM
If people generally hate watching a certain pornstud, if that pornstud can ruin scenes even with the girls that people generally adore, then that guy is not doing his job very well.
skronker
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Posted - Nov 7 2007 : 1:00AM
Which matters not the least, obviously, since so many lame dudes work constantly. Which tells us what? Most consumers do not buy/rent/download porn because they're concerned with the quality of male performance. They just want to see hot young chicks get pounded ... The industry is tailored perfectly to generate endless work for guys whose only "quality" is that they can produce a stiff cock and can ejaculate on cue. Anything beyond that is a bonus. That's also why Manuel Ferrara's cumshots are worth a grand each, since he's someone a lot of people find appealing to watch (whether its because he makes them hot or because he makes the girls look like they actually enjoy fucking on camera ... ) ... So, it can matter, since the top-top guys enjoy more selectivity and higher paychecks, but it's not the biggest item on the checklist ...
Edited by - skronker on 11/7/2007 1:02:19 AM
BlackSix All-Star Supporter
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9/07
Posted - Nov 7 2007 : 3:46AM
And how big is your cock? Why the obsession with big dicks in supposedly straight porn?
skronker
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Posted - Nov 7 2007 : 3:49AM
There is no such thing as straight porn ... ahahahahahahah!
ragingbull
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404 Posts
5/07
Posted - Nov 7 2007 : 4:22AM
John Strong is just another example of a trash male performer. I don't want to hear anymore about how hard it is to be a male performer. With Levitra and Viagra its not hard to keep wood. Most of the guys I see in gonzo viedo look like they just got out of county.
WhiteBOY
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305 Posts
11/06
Posted - Nov 7 2007 : 12:52PM
I now HAVE trashed, scratched and thrown some of the worst John Strong dvd's. You can call me totally insane, but it's my own very personal protest. I now shall lit a fire and burn the two dvd's I have with him as a "director"-
John Strong is ruining the pleasure of porn.
I don't understand why Everhard/Stefano use him that much. He kills all the heat, and he pounds away like he was trashing meat with his cock-hammer-
I get dissapointed and angry every time this motionless robot enters my tv-frame.
I want it to stop!
Ramsey
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10332 Posts
10/02
Posted - Nov 7 2007 : 1:38PM
You're making too much of it WhiteBOY, just do what I do and don't buy movies with performers you don't like but I have to admit for me that's pretty hard because Ferrara, Everhard and Stefano seem to be in every movie being released :-(
I don't remember having a problem with John Strong though.
MythMaker
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919 Posts
7/07
Posted - Nov 7 2007 : 2:24PM
Would it be safe to say that anybody who enjoys adult so much, myself included, spends a fair amount of time and money buying, downloading, renting movies? That being the case, it shouldn't be too hard to find enough material (past, present, and future) that don't involve the performer you're adverse to? If that is the case, and I think that it is, then this prolonged attack on John Strong really doesn't make much sense.
Some people don't like robotic power-fuckers. Others do. Why don't we just move on?
WhiteBOY
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305 Posts
11/06
Posted - Nov 7 2007 : 2:59PM
Why not use my chance and tell the producers and moguls and directors, frequenting this forum, of what I like in porn and what I dislike?
Bob All-Star Supporter
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5516 Posts
3/03
Posted - Nov 7 2007 : 3:00PM
Mythmaker,
Maybe to send porn filmmakers a signal, no matter how faint or quixotic, that we'd much rather see other male performers in their videos.
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[Edited because WhiteBOY beat me to the punch.]
Edited by - bob on 11/7/2007 3:11:12 PM
Kensington Chapp
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Mine is the biggest.
610 Posts
7/07
Posted - Nov 7 2007 : 4:49PM
The other guy should have stuck his cock in between their tongues.
That'd teach the jerk not to hog.
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