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Manuel Ferrara
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Posted - Nov 19 2007 : 11:06PM
obviously you lick the pussy to please the girl, even if it's a turn on also for a lot of guys.
i think in this industry not enough guys care about making the girl come. when i watch porn that's exactly what i'm looking for and then the cumshot.
you can't please everybody, but i'm sure that the random guy who is not an hardcore porn fan will have fun as much watching john strong, everhard, holmes, stefano, myself or others because they will probably focus on jerking off watching the girls.
Bob All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Nov 19 2007 : 11:11PM
That's what I'm looking for, too.
Personally, I can skip that -- but I may be in the minority.
MythMaker
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Posted - Nov 19 2007 : 11:50PM
Manuel, I hope people really try to understand that second point - everyone is different, with tastes accordingly & the random/average fan does not spend as much time/effort/energy/money as those of us here who try to be connected to oour hobby/sexual outlet, whatever...
As to the first point, that is the most righteous statement in quite a while. Steve has made a point of saying he likes to have chemistry with and please a girl, which makes for the best, and more often than not, raunchiest scenes around. Eating pussy is essential for me, and I am disappointed when it doesn't happen or is a 10 second oral tease. I loooooove it when the woman shows genuine pleasure, and that happens alot in oral - like when a woman grabs the back of the guy's head and plants it in her ass or grinds her pussy on his face. Adult movies are a fantasy, and as I've said before, for me I ant to see the guy do things to/with the woman that I want to do - that includes lots of kissing, oral, rimming, along with blowjobs and various penetration. The best fantasies are long, unhurried, and more on the woman's pleasure, though the element of how well she fucks and makes the guy happy is important too!!
One last thing, Manuel - would you consider doing a series with a romance to ultra-hardcore progression? I mean, something that starts out as lots of passionate kissing, grinding, fetish-wear tease, then starts toward toys, oil, face sitting, shit talking... then to generic positions... and it keeps going to lots of hair pulling, red ass cheek butt slapping, throat fucking A2M, pile driver... anal creampie being licked off the floor swallow finish? I know... waaaaay too much detail, but I'm trying to be clear. You would know way better how to present a scene that goes from romantic and sweet to releasing the fuck demon inside. That could be a working title - The Fuck Demon Inside. Anyhow, totally off base from the thread, but you're watching this one, so it's worth a shot! I'm a huge fan!!
Edited by - MythMaker on 11/19/2007 11:51:21 PM
Joel
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331 Posts
5/05
Posted - Nov 20 2007 : 10:24PM
I am sick of all the bitching on this thread.
John Strong should just do the noble thing and retire so we can shut this thread.
 
Dragnet 2007
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14 Posts
11/07
Posted - Nov 21 2007 : 6:04PM
I could not have said it better myself. Thank you
ouroboros
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11/07
Posted - Nov 28 2007 : 12:50AM
If you don't like someone, don't buy the damned product. End of story. If you like the others in the vid, that what a "chapter menu" is for. Seems simple enough.
kristielove
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All is fair in love and porn
69 Posts
7/05
Posted - Nov 28 2007 : 4:07PM
Well all of you haters, obviously many people don't agree with you because John Strong's movies have received a lot of AVN nominations so he's doing something right! Trust me it's not that he schmoozed AVN like many other companies and believe me, people do which obviously seems to work for them but the fact is he got a lot of nominations cuz somebody likes what he's doing...
The moral of the story is, you can't please everybody so don't watch him if you don't like him and Johnny, keep doing what makes you happy cuz it's making a lot of girls I talk to happy and oviously the people who vote for AVN!!!

**As an aside I'm outraged and shocked that Michael Stefano didn't get a best male performer nomination...whatever you guys think he makes love to these girls and they practically have to be carried out to the car after a scene with him. But whatever...different thread
sam46
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564 Posts
1/07
Posted - Nov 28 2007 : 4:23PM
AVN doesn't know John Strong from John Lennon.
kristielove
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7/05
Posted - Nov 28 2007 : 4:45PM
That's true cuz I loved Lennon's original "Cum Coat my Throat" It was with Asian chicks right??
Liquidnoose
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Nobody Bleeds for the Dancer
226 Posts
1/05
Posted - Nov 28 2007 : 8:05PM
didn't know who this guy was...then just watched a guy turn in one of the worst performances ever in BIG WET ASSES 12...and it was JS...have to agree with the threadstarter...I don't normally notice the (lack of ) male talent but this scene it was hard not to get pissed...just terrible.
phatasslover
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195 Posts
6/07
Posted - Nov 28 2007 : 9:52PM
Blah blah blah, again people here giving the bs line of "if you dont like it, dont buy it." Sorry but its not that simple. Say your favorite director is Steven Spielberg..and he starts using your most hated actor in every movie of his. Wouldn't that piss you off? Same thing with this muppet JS. He is in so many movies, it is insane. Especially Red Light District. I was just browsing some reviews on CAVR.Com and literally the 4 movies I looked at, he was in every one!!! And not just one scene, more like 2-3.
Just look at the consensus on here. Probably 90 percent of the posters on here agree that he is horrible.
conquistador
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Hellhamster.
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Posted - Nov 28 2007 : 10:01PM
Doesn't relate at all.
Don't like someone? Then don't watch them.
It's porn, quit crying, you have other options.
Edited by - conquistador on 11/28/2007 10:01:52 PM
phatasslover
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195 Posts
6/07
Posted - Nov 28 2007 : 10:05PM
That advice is naive and idiotic.
luvinIt912
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250 Posts
3/07
Posted - Nov 28 2007 : 10:09PM
That guy is probably a John Strong fan.
 
phatasslover
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195 Posts
6/07
Posted - Nov 28 2007 : 10:11PM
Gotta be. Up to this point, I dont think we have had one person stick up for JS except people who work with him. No porn viewers like him.
Faceblaster
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390 Posts
5/04
Posted - Nov 28 2007 : 10:31PM
I also only like scenes where the guy really "lights up" the girl. Manuel and Stefano are great at that. EE and JS, not as much. I love EE as a director and Jailbait is as entertaining as any.That shit cracks me up. But the way a lot of the Plat X generation guys bone is not the style that I find as strokable as the "I'm just a hornyfuck" style that Holmes and Mark Wood have.
BlackSix All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Nov 29 2007 : 2:01AM
I don't like John Strong, I don't dislike John Strong, and I'm a porn viewer.
aussie_guy77
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121 Posts
4/07
Posted - Nov 29 2007 : 2:15AM
He keeps performing and people keep buying the DVDs he's in, that tells me two things.
1. He is good at what he does
2. People don't get turned off by his performances
Give the guy a break, hes always hard and brings the 'A' game. I don't mind his scenes afterall he has been nominated for several awards, for a guy to get nominated he needs to be able to perform and give the scene the x factor surely.
Bob All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Nov 29 2007 : 4:02AM
The whole "if you don't like it, just shut up and don't buy it" philosophy is ridiculous. What's the point of a message board if not to express one's opinions?
The best available option is, "Say what you like and buy it; say what you don't like and don't buy it." Why should I settle for half -- voting only with my wallet -- when I have a forum that enables me to vote with my words, too?
MythMaker
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Posted - Nov 29 2007 : 8:58AM
I think Bob is spot on with that comment, though my view is that people could be less negative and more constructive about their complaints. I would think moderators would chime in if a thread was heaping negative comments on a female performer, but this thread seams to have no stopgate about what you can say about this man. Maybe I'm wrong, though, and there are threads saying "this bitch sucks and she should crawel in a hole and die"! I admit not reading everything in here. This thread is still
kristielove
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All is fair in love and porn
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7/05
Posted - Nov 29 2007 : 9:30AM
In this business, it really isn't naive to say don't buy it because you guys know that you're awesome but it's a handful (literally)of uber porn FANATICS (not that there's anything wrong with that) and you don't represent the majority of consenting adults.
Also, of course he's gonna be in Redlight pics, HE WORKS THERE, not only is there an atmosphere of "team playing" there but the logistics of doing so many movies is that many times you have to double up with another person at RLD and so let's say John Shoots Mark in a scene for his movie and then Mark will follow that and shoot John in his scene, get it?
Also, I swear I am not making this up, MANY (more than 3, less than 10) girls have absolutely told me that he, yes John Strong is their favorite performer. Or they will say "who am I working with?" and when I say John they squeal and say how happy they are. Soo
Also, when someone spoke about him and some other male performers plopping the girls into the various positions it's cuz they have to! These girls for one, don't know many positions and more importantly don't know right off the bat how to position themselves to get the best shot (the typical cowgirl where she's off to 1 side and looking back=you get penetration, boobs shaking and her face, etc. etc,) if they didn't move them and sometimes literallya have to pose them like a doll, SOME girls would just flop down totally unaware of the object of the game.
Ok, I'll shut up, it's just that there are usually other reasons behind every little detail. Love you nasty perverts!! xoxo
skronker
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Posted - Nov 29 2007 : 11:10AM
That's smartly put ... the greediest are the best.
Faceblaster
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390 Posts
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Posted - Nov 29 2007 : 2:22PM
Aw shucks, thanks Skronk.
May I ad on a side note that John Strong is one of the friendliest and most honest and forthright people I have met in my life, in or out of the industry. He is very respectful towards male and female talent and professional in his manor. In a business chock-ful of posers and liars and users, JS is a cut above. Same for Mike John, these guys don't "work" people like most of the porn folks do.
BlackSix All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Nov 29 2007 : 4:17PM
True, I just think this particular issue has become boring and some of the attacks against John Strong seemed too personal, as opposed to just not liking him as a performer.
 
Ramsey
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Posted - Nov 29 2007 : 4:39PM
I think somebody said the same thing about Ted Bundy once.
Roger Herraw
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415 Posts
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Posted - Nov 29 2007 : 7:15PM
I liked how he rocked Faye Runaways holes, especially her ass, in Wasted Youth 4, no complaints, he did a great job.
he dicked Tiffany Brookes pretty well in Love At 1st Fuck.
My only real annoyance with him is his cumshots are usually unimpressive.
phatasslover
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195 Posts
6/07
Posted - Nov 29 2007 : 9:25PM
That and the fact that I have taken shits bigger than his dick.
And by the way, the score here is probably 20-2 now. Almost everyone has agreed he is a horrible performer.
leatherdick
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263 Posts
5/07
Posted - Nov 30 2007 : 4:45AM
I was on the third degree site looking at new releases when Audrey Bitoni catches my eye looking hot as hell as a policewoman...
dynathumb.jpgTo add further excitement Brroke Haven is also in it. My eyes stray along the cast list and there it is like a dark Cloud on the horizon, the name John Strong. I quickly try and look at the back cover, not available. Trailer not available either. So how many scenes is Mr Strong in?
Okay don't worry have faith, you have avoided Red Light so this must just be a one off, I decide to check out new release Tits Ahoy 6 the box cover inspires me...
457896.jpgSeems to be a nice cast Nikki Benz, Lachelle Marie, John Strong, Britney Stevens, hang on a minute John Strong. How many scenes, your guess is as good as mine.
So these will be two films I would have bought on the female cast alone, but now won't be because of the inclusion of our friend.
I think this sums up my frustration. Audrey looks great to me in that outfit. But will she be with JS, I am not going to spend $22 trying to find out.
BlackSix All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Nov 30 2007 : 4:55AM
Why don't you just read some reviews first? I never buy without reading reviews first and even previewing with VOD.
Endless Loop
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Posted - Nov 30 2007 : 5:51AM
They may have allowed the mob to inflict a bit more abuse to JS than most,
in part due to the tremendous body of work he's contributed to the industry, and thus the impact he's had upon fans, for better or worse, has in proportion, been a bit greater than most.
Secondly, I believe he's actually managed to evade his share of criticism, precisely as a result of his colorless, and somewhat unspectacular approach.
Cloaked by his decisively energetic, and undeniably predictable lead, our attention has tended to shift elsewhere, in search of more viable subject matter, and I may very well be wrong, but rarely would I suspect, (let alone recall), if many of his performances have been slated, with his cumshot lined up as the finale.
With respect to any form of creative entertainment, be it the bright lights of broadway, or the blue screen of porn, when a performer neglects to consider the value of creativity in his or her work, the public usually finds a way to make their dissatisfaction known.
On the other hand,
if he's managed to get by, all this time until this, his first enduring thread of extensive criticism, just how bad has he actually been?
Isn't Eric Everhard in contrast called out weekly to deal with foul viewer discontent?
When a poll is taken, how frequently does the number one reply suggest, that the ideal male performer should &quotattention off himself, and onto their female counterpart, and not the other way around"? Has Strong's flaw actually been worse?
Personally, like most who have posted, JS has often bored me to death as well, but where I apparently differ, is that the genre of movie that John Strong generally appears, is what I refer to as "act driven", and by that, my main motivation for buying such a movie, is above all else, simply to witness a specific, physical act being performed to, by, and with, stunning women, period.
By no means is it the only form of porn I find appealing, but when I do purchase such a movie, it justifiably has my best interests in mind, by targeting the definitive subject. The intuitive understanding, is that in capturing the topic act, the performance remain as straightforward, authentic, and uncompromised as possible. It alone supercedes virtually any extraneous or peripheral shortcomings that happen to interfere with its production, and often at the cost of diminishing other various factors, relative to quality.
Has John Strong delivered as advertised in this respect?
From my perspective, and though it may relate to his role as a director, he currently leads the way with few rivals.
Has he neglected to inspire, stimulate, or satisfy the audience through his own individual performances?
I think the numbers have accurately spoken.
Edited by - Endless Loop on 11/30/2007 6:06:56 AM
prigger2010
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Posted - Apr 7 2008 : 10:23PM
So I was so happy last night, because I finally doled out the cash and got a password to Club Red Light. So I log and have been looking through the scenes and I'm HORRIFIED! I swear to god John Strong is in every damn scene. There is no excuse for someone to be so over exposed in a business. This man brings nothing to the table and has the worst looking cock. He spends more time on his back then the girl does in a scene and lazy and unmotivated. It's hard to watch him in scenes with Erik Everhard and Steve Holmes. He just doesn't compare. It would appear that I'm not the only one that feels this way.
The sad thing is is that it's almost impossible to avoid him. Between my 2 passes at red light and video box - he's everywhere! Mean while it impossible to find scenes from guys like Erik Everhard and Nacho, and Rocco...
The industry should listen to it's fans and get rid of this guy! If he wants to direct then let him direct, but in front of the camera is a no no.
luvinIt912
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3/07
Posted - Apr 7 2008 : 10:47PM
His time is up. I hope he gets the fuck out and takes Nat Turner with him! :)
Bob All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Apr 7 2008 : 11:35PM
I think John Strong is getting better, at least in other directors' videos.
Directing yourself is always a risky business, no matter what kind of movies you make.
He was fine in his anal scene with Eva Angelina in "E is for Eva". He was really into her, quite in awe of her animalistic sexuality, I thought.
wheat
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4/06
Posted - Apr 8 2008 : 1:05AM
No matter who it is i still think it's crazy to put the one guy in 3+ scenes in a movie.
Thats probably the biggest issue with redlight.
it's basically either john strong or steve french in every scene.
 
messhuga
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Posted - Apr 8 2008 : 1:59AM
The guy is definately over-exposed and that's why he spends so much time on his back during his scenes.
He's so generic and Its time Directors look at other guys instead of having him in 2+ scenes per movie.
As much as we may try to avoid him,he keeps on popping up in so many Gonzo flicks and that is frustrating for the Consumer.
If there is some consolation,let me say that at least Alex Devoe does not use him at all in his titles.
Lets hope we are spared the misery of seeing him in the next Big Wett Ass movie from EA.
Edited by - messhuga on 4/8/2008 2:02:24 AM
Joel
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331 Posts
5/05
Posted - Apr 8 2008 : 2:33AM
AVN is bullshit. It means fuck all. It's all hype. Fashionistas won so many awards because it was shot on a different type of film and was high budget - not just because of the sex scenes, nothing to do with the plot (what fucking plot?) and no way in hell because of the acting which was... well.
BobArctor
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276 Posts
4/06
Posted - Apr 8 2008 : 11:59AM
I've said it before and I'll say it again--John Strong is the WORST male talent in the business!
Edited by - BobArctor on 4/12/2008 6:17:00 PM
prigger
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151 Posts
9/07
Posted - Apr 8 2008 : 10:03PM
Let me break it down for you. According to Rabbits Reviews there is a little over 1000 scenes on clubredlight.com guess how many John Strong is in? OVER 300!!!!!!!! That's 300 scenes with this lazy ass nailing some of the hottest women in porn. And he's in the majority of all the new DVDS that come on the site and in all the scenes with the best girls. I can't tell you how much of a slap in the face it was for me to finally add more Bobbi Starr scenes in my collection only to find out that good 'ole J.S. was in all of them.
Even if he's was a good performer with a good looking cock, there is still no excuse for an actor to be used in so many movies. It's bad enough guys like Erik Everhard and Steve Holmes rarely do solo scenes, but the majority of their team-up scenes are with JOHN STRONG! I like Tony T, Erik Everhard, Nacho Vidal, Rocco, Franco Roccoforte and it's so hard to find their content no matter what pass you buy or dvd you purchase. It's impossible to avoid John Strong.
In a time when any old guy just grabs a camera and thinks he's a porn star/Director. Directors and studios need to start realizing that the male is just as important as the female in a scene. In actuality the male is the one that directs the flow of the scene. No matter how hot Jasmine Byrne is looking on any given day, a scene with her and Nacho (god bless if there is such a scene) and a scene with her and John Strong are two completely different things. And Directors need to start realizing this. Because John Strong is at the top of the list of many many men that should not be acting in porn, and are ruining the experience for the customer. I'm not in the NBA for one reason... I'm shit at basket ball, and for that same reason, John Strong should not be in porn.
This is not a jealously thing either. Nacho Vidal has nailed more women in a week then I will probably nail in my entire life and I don't hate him or am I jealous of him.
And lets be real here. All the people in the business sticking up for him are just doing that because everyone works with everyone and no one is gonna come on here and talk shit about him knowing they may have to work with him some day. I'm sure he's a very nice guy and is on-time and professional. But he's a shitty performer and if I'm taking the time after my long day at work to vent about this and there is a huge forum dedicated to this, then people need to get the picture and stop using him in their movies ALL THE FUCKING TIME!!!!!!
Directors don't care what fans want. They just use him cause he can get a hard on fast and for a long period of time and I'm sure he can cum on cue. And that boils down to the time is money policy and not caring what the fans want.
I understand a man needs to work and that's fine. But he needs to BE OFF CAMERA!!!
prigger
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151 Posts
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Posted - Apr 8 2008 : 10:25PM
THAT'S SO TRUE LOL!!! I think I just shit myself laughing!!!
Micheal S is only good when he has a good wing man like Manuel or Steve Holmes. They force him to work hard. John Strong makes him lazy.
3 of Taylor Rain's last scenes with Platinim X were with those 2... such a shame.
luvinIt912
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Posted - Apr 9 2008 : 12:28AM
Its not even fair comparing Stefano to John Strong......John is levels below.
prigger
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151 Posts
9/07
Posted - Apr 9 2008 : 1:52AM
Just suffered through a brand new bailey scene with guess who? the most over-used man in porn ,John Strong.
It's so funny how Erik Everhard is in the scene with him and I swear within 2 mins into the scene John Strong sneaks to the couch so he can be on his back first, and I fucking swear he didn't move for the whole 30 minutes. His dick looks like it's about to snap off any minute and his balls are almost above his dick, who would want to put this in every scene?
How can someone say "if you don't like it don't watch" when all the scenes on clubredlight with my favorite porn stars have john strong in them.
So just for an example. I'll use Bobbi Starr as my girl since she's my favorite right now and is one of the reasons I got a membership to the site.
Bobbie Star - 11 clips total - 4 with JS
Whitney Stevens - 4 clips total - 2 with JS other 2 not downloadable.
I think it's time for me to call it quits with this Red Light and Platinum X.
On the flip side I was looking through 3rd Degrees site and I don't think I saw him anywhere. So there still might be hope.
phatasslover
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195 Posts
6/07
Posted - Apr 9 2008 : 2:23AM
Impossible to avoid this guy. John Strong is in practically every other release.
He's horrible, really the last person on earth I want to see in a damn scene.
Like I said before, he is basically a wannabee erik everhard but with a much smaller dick.
messhuga
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Stop the Swedes!!!!!
824 Posts
3/07
Posted - Apr 9 2008 : 2:49AM
I wanted to get the Tits Ahoy coz I'm a huge fan of Lichele Marie,but I ended up passing the joint coz she was paired up with guess who...................John Strong.
Enough said!
Steve Holmes
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Posted - Apr 9 2008 : 3:55AM
My dear prigger,
everybody is free to hate whoever they want. There is some people I try to avoid when I watch porn. I'm also aware that there are people who try to avoid watching me.
But do you think it was a smart decision to become member at clubredlight.com? You could have known that John is their main man. Most of the guys you seem to like work mainly or exclusively for Evil Angel or Jules Jorden Production. Even if they have been part of Red Light District a while ago.
Please be honest. If the NBA would offer you a multi-million dollar contract today, would you refuse it? "Thanks, no. I'm not good enough."
John Strong gets paid very good money to fuck some of the hottest girls in the world. How stupid would it be for him to decline that offer.
Just tonight I worked with her for Elegant Angel. She is one of my all time favourites. If you are into BDSM check out this scene.
Steve Holmes
BlackSix All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Apr 9 2008 : 4:55AM
See, I can't stand Everhard, and John Strong is boring, yet somehow I continue to live my life. How? How?
prigger
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151 Posts
9/07
Posted - Apr 9 2008 : 7:40PM
For the most part I would guess you're right ,Steve. Instead of complaining I'm just going to avoid Red Lights product for now on. If then feel one guy needs to be in a million scenes then so be it. They'll learn.
I use to have a pass to S and S. It was some good stuff just a little to much Mark Davis for my taste, not sure if it's his site. I will definitely look our for your scene with Bobbi.
priscillamilanxxx
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8/07
Posted - Apr 10 2008 : 12:04AM
okay Mr pete is a great performer and john strong has always been respectful and does his job..you know some dudes in this business totally suck, but there are about a hand full that do there job and go home!mark wood is very nice & respectful, mark ashley is Awesome too..My all time Fav is my Talon..just aside all the drama it is hard 4 some guys to be in this business..right?
Steve Holmes
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Posted - Apr 10 2008 : 6:42PM
It's only hard if the dick isn't.
I worked in different jobs in different industries before porn. I never made my money so easy than now.
Steve Holmes
WhiteBOY
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Posted - Apr 11 2008 : 6:20PM
Master of bragging??
luvinIt912
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Posted - Apr 11 2008 : 9:05PM
Seems like he likes to do that.
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