1st and most important, Lex and Mandingo are way more popular. I know Manuel is one of the top male performer names, and I'm not dissing him or James Deen or any other dude. They are popular good for them, but they are not as popular as Lex or Mandingo. As OverratedGuy pointed out a few weeks ago, Lex and Mandingo are the only guys in the top most popular performers at JJV publishing page and they have stayed near the top. I'm just saying, if the most popular dudes by far aren't getting produced at that clip, why is Manuel? I'd rather see another Slut Puppies or Ass Worship instead of a third Manuel joint in about a month. Don't care that he's French it has nothing to do with that. And LOL at whatever the hell Asa And Kristina Rose are smoking. I trust that they meant "Manuel's one of the bigger" in terms of popularity, which is true. But not size. He would appear very average physically if not on the smaller side for industry standards. And it's not a race thing from me, because theres plenty of white dudes bigger than him in size too. So let's not even go that route. But at this point I probably sound like hating, and I want to make it clear this isn't hate. No dis to the dude or you or any of his fans. I'm just rolling my eyes cus I think they're overdoing it a little. Like he's the only dude they could do a reverse gangbang for? Okay its not 3 Manuel movies in 1 month, but 3 in 6 weeks, pretty close.
Also want to add that what you say about performance intensity is true. It is true Lex and Mandingo are hardly the most intense fuckers out there. They can't be, or they could seriously hurt some of these chicks. Prince can afford to go a lot harder because he's not as big as them. And Manuel and other average dudes can fuck as hard as they want, jackhammering away like rabbits on crack, with minimal to no risk of hurting nobody. And then we got my dude Jules who isn't gonna hurt any chick with his dick if he tried. LMAO! I'm just breakin balls no offense intended. Real talk Jules is one of the very few regular dudes I can still watch cuz my style is similar. When I seen that Alexis Texas scene with Jules where she was being a kinky domme with the riding crop, I felt that. And the latest scene "Juelz Ventura Manhandles Jules Jordan's Cock", that is on point! Doesnt matter if Jules isn't the biggest dude or roughest fucker. He has the hottest chicks turning it up and turning in great scenes. I can dig that. "Alexis Texas Big Booty Bondage With Jules" That's it. That's the other one I was referring to. Hot! Come to think of it, we need a BDSM theme joint from JJV. Not full hardcore like Kink, but something Kink-y. More like the scenes with two female cops taking control. Evil Angel does a lot more of the femdom stuff, but then they go all out with strap-ons and what not. That's not what I'm suggesting. They need a movie with some bad ass bitches with light femdom bondage. Sort of how they flip the ganbang thing and do reverse gangbang, they should make a DarkSide type of joint with various females not just the one. Bad Bitch Bonanza or something.
Manuel is one of the biggest in terms of girth, he has probably the fattest cock in the business. Most women enjoy working with him more than anyone else. I'm a big supporter of Manuel and he is one of my favorite performers of all time. However, I will agree that the Lensman deal was somewhat confusing to me and here's why. Chris Streams and William H already use him for over half their scenes. There's nothing different that the Lensman series has brought to JJV. JJV has pretty much turned into the Manuel Ferrara show which isn't the worst thing in the world for my personal tastes. I would suggest Jules probably should have spent that deal on giving Chris Strokes his own deal or in retrospect matching the offer Mandingo took from West Coast. I just find the Lensman deal kind of pointless if Streams and William H already over use Manuel. I think the lack of interracial just has some fans worried as well but Jules will definitely be turning things around this fall.
But if they did a reverse gangbang for another guy, people would be saying "like he's the only dude they could do a reverse gangbang for". Who do you think would've been a better choice? Keep in mind for a reverse gangbang you need a guy who's able to handle 5 girls and has a lot of energy (Lex/Mandingo can't fit this). I just got the idea from your posts that if it was a black guy reverse gangbang like Prince you probably wouldn't really complain. I could be wrong and if I am, I apologize. Rico Strong managed to get his own movies, so if he can, of course Manuel can. He's a director so of course he'll be in his own movies, I don't get that part, there have only been 2 movies ever done that were based on Manuel that weren't his own, I don't think that's really too much, that's also over 2 years lol. Both Lex and Mandingo have been produced more than Manuel by other JJV directors, so fail to see your point. No, Asa didn't mean popularity. She was asked how she is fucking big guys, and she mentioned she needs to be in the mood to take the bigger guys and she named these 4: Lex, Mandingo, Nacho Vidal, and Manuel Ferrara, unless you find Nacho to have a small cock as well. It sounds like you're saying you know his size better than girls that fuck him, which sounds kind of weird man. I don't know if I'm blind, but Manuel seems much thicker than most guys (and thickness matters more). You said he's small for industry standards, but I'd say he's bigger than 90% of guys... Just curious which white guys you think are bigger than Manuel? From the top guys I really can't think of anyone (he's bigger than Erik Everhard, Mick Blue, Ramon, James Deen, Rocco Siffredi (there's a scene Manuel and Rocco did where a black girl (I think Monique) compares them and Manuel is thicker for sure, maybe not as long; Rocco even comments that Manuel is bigger). Just sounds weird to me because I've never noticed anyone comment or that Manuel has a reputation for having a small cock. Annika Albrite also said his cock is huge , but I guess they're all mistaken for some reason lol. He's also bigger than other guys like Prince, LT, Wesley Pipes etc. Either way, not really up for a debate on cock size. Sure he's not as popular with some people, but isn't the fact he got a second movie show he is kind of popular? If he wasn't they wouldn't have made it if it failed badly. To me. For me, the most important is the girl. And you have to say that girls much prefer Manuel to Mandingo or Lex based on inteviews (most put Manuel in top 3, never heard a girl put Mandingo at the top of her list, no offence to the guy). Also, he's a director at Evil Angel and managed to get a directing gig at Jules Jordan. You HAVE to be popular to do that, these are two of the biggest companies and he's the only guy directing for both. Either way, we have our own opinions. To me, it's obvious girls prefer Manuel to the guys you mentioned, so it makes the scenes better in my opinion. I also think it would make more sense to compare Manuel to Prince based on popularity with the girls and the style they fuck. I don't care about cock size as much as you, because it's mainly about the girl, while the Mandingo movies are mostly about the whole aspect of a girl taking on a guy that big, not much to do with the quality of that performer imo. I don't get offended man, we're on a porn forum, I don't take any of this stuff personal, I just like to give my opinion, and so do you, nothing wrong with that. At the end of the day, we watch what we want. I'm glad with more Manuel movies, just like you'd want more Lex. To me, Prince Yashua deserves his own title much more than Lex as girls prefer him much more and he fucks them much better imo. Edited by - primerandall on 9/13/2014 11:31:47 AM Edited by - primerandall on 9/13/2014 11:54:51 AM
It depends what you look for, you know? I prefer "jackhamering like rabbits on crack" as opposed to a guy going into the scene chilling on the bed, not giving two shits about what's going on and looking like he'd rather be anywhere else. I know Lex and Mandingo could hurt the girls, to me that's the point why I can't watch their scenes. I don't like seeing girls struggle or be in pain with guys. With Lex, it's also that the guy doesn't seem to be into his scenes, just looks like he came there to relax and doesn't try to put in any work. Mandingo tries, but he's limited, he can't really fuck the girls as well as Prince and Manuel (the average dudes lol). Just wondering who you think are the biggest guys in porn because I can't think of many bigger than Manuel? Back on your previous point, I'm not trying to offend Lex or any of his fans either, just having a regular convo on my thoughts, hope you feel the same way, not here to argue with anyone, we all have our preferences, it would be boring if everyone was into the same stuff. Edited by - primerandall on 9/13/2014 12:03:52 PM
Yeah, that's what I got as well. Manuel seems to be the thickest guy in the business, I would say thicker than Lex or Mandingo so I didn't get his comment. AJ also posted in her thread she wasn't sure about shooting with Wet Asses with him because of his size, so it just sounded weird that the guy mentioned Manuel as a small guy in the business as I've never heard anyone say that before and every girl has mentioned him as one of the biggest ones (because of thickness). As to your opinion, it makes sense, he does get used a lot. But to me, it's a good thing as he really gets into it with the girls, kissed them a lot, and they seem to love working with him. Mandingo and Lex probably are more popular with the fans (lots of male fans are really into size), but I would say Manuel easily beats out Mandingo when it comes to popularity with the girls. Edited by - primerandall on 9/13/2014 11:34:47 AM
Manuel consistently brings the intensity and the chemistry in his scenes. That's what is most important to me as a porn consumer. There's a reason Mason, William H., and Chris Streams all use him so much. And I think Manuel is probably the best performer/director out there right now. The Slutty and Sluttier and Evil Anal series have been longtime favorites of mine. I think Jules is a great performer, but I think of him foremost as a director you know what I mean? So bringing Manuel over to JJV to direct as Lensman seemed like a fantastic idea to me. I'm not experiencing any Manuel related fatigue yet. I say keep it coming.
No way. I got no probs giving credit that he is on the thicker side of average, but not a chance is he even going to be taken into consideration as the fattest. Someone must be trippin to claim that. Heard of Shorty Mac? Heard of Shane Diesel? Kid Bengala? Its not just brothaz who would trump him neither. Its several white cats out there who would easily best Manuel too. I think probably you guys are confusing Manuel with Nacho. Nacho is bigger in all capacity than Manuel. Definitely longer and I'm quite sure he's fatter.
@Prime Bruh I don't even care what color Manuel is. If ANY dude was getting 3 title movies in such a short period at JJV I'd be like, EHHHH.... So no I'm not saying he has to be replaced by a brotha. For example, they could use Chris Strokes for the next reverse gangbang. Or why not Voodoo? The truth I think is that it has less to do with Manuel's skill, attributes or marketability and more with the fact he's simply producing the content faster than anyone else. Again cant fault him for that. So if the choice is 3 more Manuel movies in the next 6 weeks versus nothing instead, then alright let him ball. But if the choice is Manuel or someone else, then let someone else get in the cut. I think it's more the former scenario and Manuel is simply providing filler content. Which is cool I guess, as long as it helps the Jules brand.
Manuel is a brand at this point of time... you cant deny this fact... On the other hand, Lexington Steele and Prince Yahshua are one of the finest performers the industry having today... Chris Strokes is busy with sites like Teenslovehugecocks and his own site provides wonderful entertainment... when these four are doing the scenes, i never say no for watching them...
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Posted - Sep 14 2014 : 2:12AM
Since we seem to be taking a tally of those who like or dislike Manuel, you can definitely put me on the "dislike" list. My biggest problem with him is that fucked up uncut cock of his, it just grosses me out. It's great that the girls like him and he's got a devout fan club here, but for me it's a buzzkill everytime I find out that he's the male talent for a given scene that features a girl I like. So needless to say, I really have no interest in these recent Manuel-made movies. LOL at the words in bold. That's another thing I don't like about him, his "jackhammering" style of fucking.
No no no no. I think I started this sub-discussion about Manuel and I never said I dislike him. He's cool, got no prob with him. I just thought he was being over-used when instead why not get other guys in there? I am loathe to get into these bashing discussions where people just vent their dislike or even downright contempt over some dude in porn LOL. People take it too serious. Look at all the Wesley Pipes bashing. The complaining is epic and that also just makes me roll my eyes. But yall are on crack to even suggest Manuel is huge. Someone even compared him to Mandingo? We MUST BE talking about different people. Maybe some chicks said that Manuel is big. That's fine. They like him good for him. Not mad at that. Let me help by stating for the record names of white guys bigger than him, Chris Strokes, Voodoo, Nacho Vidal, Chris Charming, Danny D. That's just a few names and I'm sure there's plenty more. I think the biggest white dude is Danny D or there's this other cat with a similar name. Danny Darko or maybe Jonny Darko? Him and Danny D are like the white Mandingos. Now THOSE guys are big. Manuel is average next to them. You can say big for non-porn standards and whatever. Think we'd just be splitting hairs so I rather not argue about that. But size isn't everything. It's just a hurdle for me to vicariously imagine I am the dude in the scene when I am bigger than him. It's a unique catch for porn. With regular movies I have no issue rooting for the underdog e.g. Rudy. The David against the Goliath. In fact I tend to favor smaller dudes in pro sports precisely because they have to be that much more skilled to compete. Watch Sproles ball in the NFL it's incredible. But when its time to watch someone smash a big booty down... We know what time it is. If I am casting director, I don't send in the average dudes. So please, again with no disrespect meant, I am benching Manuel. Not ALL the time, but usually for the type of scenes I like which tend to favor bigger booty broads. I think this is why we all understand the porn standard for guys is conventionally larger than average. We don't get hype thinking that's me when it's some dude with a smaller dick. I already know there's posters here who will chime in saying they take exception to that, but seriously? By and large (no pun intended... or fuck it, pun INTENDED) that vicarious dude is going to be more idealized than ourselves. And I don't know anybody about to say yeah I wish my penis was smaller, unless the size gives them wood issues, and even THEN most guys are too prideful to consider sacrificing that size. We'd only be talking about less than one percent in that situation where they thought they were too big and preferred to be smaller. And I dont mean this as any knock to average dudes. I would consider myself @7.25" to be more or less average. So that's why I said I'm just joking about the Jules remark. Actually I am probably pretty similar to him, and IMO Manuel is closer to Jules than he is to Lex or Mandingo. That's why I say he's just above average in some respect. BTW on the topic, I agree with you not every black dude in these porns is huge either. LT in the upcoming IR romp BBC POV I don't even think he's a BBC, definitely not for porn standards anyway LOL. But I don't hate on Manuel and I don't hate on LT.
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Posted - Sep 14 2014 : 8:15AM
Orgy Masters 6!! yes about time no release date but very soon
I hope everyone is aware or at least considering that some of these Manuel titles are most likely directed by Manuel. So it isn't like everyone of the JJV directors is using just Manuel. I think Manuel is top tier, but people should consider that it isn't like everyone is just using only Manuel. But if he's directing then he is in a class of performer where I understand just having himself be the only guy in the scenes. Everhard certainly did that wirh some of his JJV series. Others do as well. Maybe your issue is more about the timing, like just too many in a short span. That's so subjective that it is hard to rebut at all.
I never buy any JJV movies anymore because I don't like Manuel and he's in about 90% of the scenes. In fact there are only one or toe male performers working today that I like, so porn is becoming less and less appealing to me. I know you guys will say that it's all about the women, but if there are guys in a scene who I don't like, it makes the scene unwatchable. Someone like Ramon Nomar also appears to be in most scenes and I just don't get why - he always talks too much in an accent I cannot understand & his dick seems limp most of the time! Sorry if this sounds harsh - just being honest. Porn is not what it was 10 or even 5 years ago. The quality is diminishing every day.
I think this will make mostly everyone happy Mandingo Massacre/Black Owned/Brother Load- Mandingo, Lexington Steele, Rico Strong & Prince Yashua Oil Overload, Lensman, Wet Asses- Manuel Ferrara, Steve Holmes, Ramon Nomar Ass Worship, Slut Puppies, Flesh Hunter, WOAD- Chris Strokes, Voodoo
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Posted - Sep 14 2014 : 4:32PM
Ramon ruins every DP scene because of his limp dick DAMNtotally true, but in my opinion not the case of Jules Jordan ( as a director )
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Posted - Sep 14 2014 : 5:51PM
^As long as Jules keeps doing the Assworship series am happy...last 3 have been excellent
If you don't like Manuel, then you must hate the female talent because they all love his ass and it shows 100% in every single scene with him. I dunno, I guess you guys just don't like seeing ACTUAL pleasure from the females? Curious. He's the best male performer in the business, no contest, hence his ubiquitous presence.. (lol @ 10 years ago porn being better(No Riley, Jada, Remy, Dani, Skin, Juelz, Maddy, Kelsi Monroe, Esperanza, Annika, Cindy Starfall, etc..), the talent pool out there now, be it all the "old" pros and these fantastic fresh faces is not be fucked with, and the many of them are willing to give just about anything a shot.)
^Meh, I personally don't really get off on watching girls getting slapped in the face (Granted, Manuel isn't the only stunt cock that does that). His antics and endless talking also becomes both annoying and distracting. While Manuel is one of the best stunt cocks out there I just wish he would spend more time focusing on the actual fucking and not everything else.
Definitely cannot deny there are some really good female performances with Manuel. Don't care for the face slapping, but if the woman is really into it, fine. I trust things like that are agreed on before they even shoot the scene. So I agree if the chicks are really into him, it helps make the scene good. He's a good performer, although I won't say he's the best with no contest. That's a bit much. I wouldn't declare anyone the best no contest. Let's try to refocus on evaluating the content quality overall and other JJV related news. What do you guys think about the chance that the Nikki Benz IR feature is going to have six scenes? I noticed in August someone listed all the scenes she shot which we were aware of, and that counted 5 different scenes. Then about a week later Nikki Tweeted about having shot "a special scene tomorrow for #NikkiBenzJungleFever And u thought I was done!" https://twitter.com/nikkibenz/status/508029262964596736 Some people speculate blowbang. IDK about that. Maybe Mandingo? Or a BGG would be awesome. Edited by - Melvyn on 9/15/2014 4:52:11 AM
I kinda sorta agree with him... :/ I could have sworn big booty porn was all rage a few years back. Seems like it's going weak now.
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pornboy69 Deactivated User
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Posted - Sep 15 2014 : 9:43AM
How about a full asian version of Orgy Masters, maybe for #7 ? London Keyes Cindy Starfall Jayden Lee Sharon Lee Krissie Dee Kalina Ryu Angelina Chung Gaia Marica Hase Jessica Bangkok Adriana Luna Deal? Edited by - pornboy69 on 9/21/2014 7:19:54 PM
Orgy Masters 3 was pretty close to all asian for one of the scenes. The only exception I remember was Brooklyn Lee. It had three other asian ladies in that scene though. What I think is amusing is whoever did casting for that might have assumed that Brooklyn Lee was asian based on her last name, as Lee/Li is a common asian name. A scene with all asian females would be cool, but I think in that case, a all hispanic female scene is overdue. I still think the first 3 Orgy Masters were the best in casting, and I also liked how they were mostly 4 on 4. Almost feels like 5 is too many to appreciate. They should also consider getting a second camera for these scenes, with a second camera guy. With all that action you could easily boost the content value with an extra view. Shouldn't be too hard to find someone who would lend a hand as supporting camera guy. I'd do it for minimum wage. I'm sure LA has no shortage of people with experience handling cameras who would do it for free. "What? Do I want to watch a free orgy? All I have to do is hold a camera? Sure where do I sign up?" Get a second unit!
I actually find the Orgy Masters to be overrated. I don't want to point blame at JJV, it's the genre that is overrated for my personal tastes. I just find them to be too much of a cluster fuck. I'm just kind of shocked that they get so much hype on here.
Totally agree. The only Orgymasters that did it for me was the scene with Reilly Reed in Orgymasters 3. Why? It was not only a bunch of guys fucking a bunch of girls. The ladies interacted with eachother, lots of kissing eachother and they really seemed to like to dive into the action. Most important thing of an orgy is an un-even number of participants. So there will be not only one on one sex.
Chris and TinTin do you think you would prefer if instead of 2 scenes with 5v3, it would be better if they did 3 scenes with 3v3? That's something I would suggest for evolving the formula. I also prefer the earlier OM movies because it was mostly 4v4 or 3v4. Going with 5 girls feels like overload to me. They definitely cannot capture all of that with just one camera anyway, so it's a bit of a production waste. That's why I suggest they get an extra cameraman so at least we can get more angles they can update to the site. That's if they stick with 5 girls and 3 guys. If they lower it to 3 on 3, they can capture most of it. 3 scenes would also allow for more creativity, such as 1 scene could be all three Hispanic chicks, 2nd scene can be black women with white men, then 3rd scene can be Asian women with black dudes. 3v3x3. 3 girls, 3 guys, 3 scenes. That's how I would do it. Yes that means the total cast would include 2 more people than the 5x3x2 formula (5 girls, 3 guys, 2 scenes), but the extra scene has extra value for the website. Plus I am sure the DVD sales would be higher too if buyers see there's a 3rd scene.
I don't mind watching a good orgy-scene... but good orgy-scenes are very rare because of bad filming, the use of just one camera, girls being lazy (waiting for eachother in stead of diving into the action). If the filming was done well and ALL the action would be filmed I would mind alot of girls. Unfortunately in the orgymaster series... there are too many people... too many loud moans and the camera is swinging back and forth. In many of these movies... as a viewer I get turned on by a certain position.. but after 15 seconds the camera swings to other action... that's very irritating with the use of one camera. I wouldn't mind 3 scenes in stead of 2. Easier to film, easier to interact, easier to direct and there's a chance that the girls actually speak during the sex in stead of loud moaning.
Looking forward to Nikki Benz Jungle Fever! Any idea when the preview pics/trailer will be released?
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Posted - Sep 16 2014 : 8:02PM
pics are up http://julesjordanvideo.com/movie/731/nikki-benz-jungle-fever.html#gallery 6 scenes 2 BBG 1 anal. it looks fabolous next year i hope to see vol 2 with DP and Blowbang. Edited by - jeffandersonn on 9/16/2014 8:03:03 PM
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Posted - Sep 17 2014 : 2:52AM
Meh, the only upcoming release that interests me is Squirt In My Face. I love the girl pairings and the trailer is great. (I do wonder, though, does Cindy Starfall squirt at all in her scene? The trailer shows multiple shots of her partner, Annie Cruz, squirting, but none of her squirting.)
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Posted - Sep 17 2014 : 3:18PM
^ Thanks for posting. Trailer looks great. Jules/Chris, could you please put Frida Sante on the IR side of the release next time? I'd love to see that. TIA!
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Posted - Sep 17 2014 : 7:12PM
^^Damn I thought the blonde in red boots was Kagney!
I saw Jillian Janson anal, gangbang but the shot is only two pr do anal scene. LT, no longer works with all due respect, there are so many better out there, get on with it, do not understand Jules Jordan.
Totally agree with bierforbrazil and porninquisitor Orgy Masters for me dont deserves be a big series like now is. More Darkside series with big names and scenes and not more "Orgy" movies...
Segregated Orgies #3 Only ones on my radar for this one are Mandy Muse, Layla and Capri Cavanni. I rarely comment on the guys but LT is just in the way.
Darkside yes, more titles thus explores the talent in various forms of female talent. Already I have opinion about the guys because for example. I love London Keyes and his best shots were with Nacho Vidal, why takes the best of it, and several other female talent. Since you can not compare with LT for example, who also shot with London Keyes and so we have several examples. So the shot is directly linked to actors if only one side has talent is not a great shot, somento good.
The trailers are well made however the problem is they are stamp-sized on today's monitors. Time to step up to 1080p like everyone else. Please! Really looking forward to Romi Rain Darkside! Edited by - psyentist on 9/17/2014 10:31:37 PM
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Posted - Sep 17 2014 : 11:25PM
I think Jules decided innovate, def!!! Romi body paint, tiger, will last forever in porn history!!! I like that! THX, and go ahead JJV!!!
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Posted - Sep 18 2014 : 1:38AM
Scene one looks better than the IR one for me.But i´m also not that into group/orgy stuff.
LOL at the words in bold. 
