Is it really? I daresay it's just as easy in North America as it is in Europe. In fact the main difference is that performers escorting in the US can go from State to State without needing a work visa because it's all in the same Country but most European performers escort in Countries that aren't their own and most of them do it for a fraction of the price that your average porn performer makes escorting. It's quite common for a well known European performer to make about 200$ to 300$ per hour escorting/prostitution. They make a lot of money doing it but it's less about rate and all about quantity of customers they go through in a day.
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Posted - Apr 8 2017 : 6:36PM
Most of the incidents that involve a performer having rough working conditions or not being paid enough (though not all of them) usually involve small studios... These studios don't have that much money to pay their performers so incidents tend to happen quite often ... Pretty much all the big european studios pay their performers right and the work conditions are relatively safe ... Of course we don't always know what happens behind the curtains but ask yourself this: Would you rather be working for LP or 21st sextury that are known and renowed studios for a good pay or work for an unknown studio that no one heard about and risk not being paid or having rough work conditions ...Well this thread is about LP, so we're talking about the pay and the work conditions that are related to LP first and foremost. As i've said previously Valentina used to work in Europe like 3 or 4 years ago, things have changed, the european porn industry has evolved and things are not as they used to be ... We're talking about the current state of the european porn scene and in that regard Proxy or Belle are more informed about the state of the european porn industry than Valentina is ... Hell Proxy is a director for LP and she's on the lookout for talent to shoot for LP (european and american girls), performers are going to ask her about the current state of the european porn industry, they will not ask Valentina. And seeing how LP dominates in Europe, i'd dare to say that LP currently defines and represents the european porn industry .If Proxy wasn't an advocate of the european porn industry why would she constantly be on the lookout for new talent to shoot for LP ? Why would she encourage american girls (Aj applegate, Maddy O'reilly, Jennifer White, Charlotte Sartre) to come shoot for LP and do double anal ? Why would she even become a director for LP to begin with ? Riddle me this ... And why the hell would she stay in Europe if the pay wasn't good and the work conditions were rough ? Is it that hard for her to buy a plane ticket and go back to America ? No it's not because she had a successful career in America and if she didn't like the European porn industry, the European porn girls or the studios, she would go back to the US where according to your sources, the pay is higher and the work conditions are better for the performers ... I have no comments about coke being done on an LP set, i do not know anything about that affair ... Also you guys might want to check this video out : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljBZ0_iNqrs It was made by Veronica Vain, the famous Wall Street intern, who became a pornstar and then left the industry ... The american porn industry is not as pink or perfect as you all make it out to be ... ! Edited by - AlexTheMachine on 4/8/2017 6:38:09 PM
There is no necessary connection between a small studio and "rough working conditions." I assume by "rough working conditions" we both mean "not safe" or "doesn't give much of a crap about performers" (indicated by your mention of safety). You have swiftly shifted from rough working conditions to less pay as if there is no need to explain the connection. But there is a need. Why would a small studio be less safe? There are plenty of small studios that are super ethical and safe. You could even make a case for big studios being less attentive to their performers because they are so big. (Not that I'm saying this is the case). The only reason I can think of that you would think smaller studios would treat their workers worse is because they aren't in the spotlight. By that logic, you imagine all porn studios are inherently abusive or rough and the only reason they wouldn't be is because they are high profile and thus under more scrutiny. Is this what you mean? Edited by - Gore Gore Girl on 4/8/2017 9:48:57 PM
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Posted - Apr 8 2017 : 10:22PM
By work conditions, i mean how well the girls are treated, if the studios actually care about the girls and not just treat them like fuckable pieces of meat that they can use for a scene (or a movie) and then throw away afterwards, how flexible the work hours are and also how the girls feel when they shoot for those studios (if they feel comfortable, safe and if they don't just shoot and hope for the scene to end so that they can collect a paycheck ...) I believe that money is an important factor that contributes to the work conditions that are related to a certain studio yes ... After all if the girls are paid what they need to be paid and if they're not scammed by the studio (what some smalls studios do), they'll be satisfied after shooting for said studio and they'll want to work with that studio again. You can just look at the recent incident that happened with Sineplex (which i consider a small studio working for LP) not paying their models, Sineplex is hardly releasing scenes for LP at the moment and they've lost all trust they had with the models, their work conditions weren't safe and money played a big role in the non-safety of those work conditions ... I agree with you that not all small studios are unethical and unsafe, but big studios have large budgets, big locations for the shoots and treat their models (in my opinion) with more care and attention than the small studios do. Now whether it be because they're under more scrutiny due to their high profile or because they genuinely care for the models, i cannot say for certain ... Edited by - AlexTheMachine on 4/8/2017 10:25:48 PM
You do realise that Sineplex and LP are the same company. Maybe not on paper but for all intent and purposes they are the same because Sineplex shoots for only one company and as done so for many years. I'd also like to point out that although Sineplex stopped releasing videos after December. It appears that they may be back because they had 3 new updates in March.Seeing as LP owns Sineplex and seeing as they vigorously defended them through their most egregious issues with paying talent than that pretty contradicts your theory that big studios treat talent better than smaller studios.
The scene which were released in March by Sineplex aren't scenes which have been shot recently. Each scene has a unique number and the lower the number, the earlier the scene has been shot. So they aren't making any new scenes but only releasing scenes which have been shot earlier but haven't been released. It is very sad that things have gone wrong by Sineplex because they shot good porn vids which I have always liked and still like.
No they're not. Sineplex is an independant porn studio that was based in Russia and then moved to Mexico. LP is based in Prague ... They're two separate studios and that's why you saw a decline in scenes released by Sineplex on LP. Sineplex makes scenes and LP buys those scenes. When Sineplex was accused of not paying performers, LP separated itself from it, and then they started buying scenes again in March ... For all intents and purposes, they're not the same, check your sources before making false claims ... !
Edited by - AlexTheMachine on 4/11/2017 8:39:28 AM
^For which company does Sineplex produce porn for? Is it more than one company because as far as I know they only produce porn for one single company called Legal Porno. If that is the case than doesn't that tell you that regardless of why they go through the charade of appearing independent. Ultimately it's just smoke and mirrors because they are one and the same.
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Posted - Apr 12 2017 : 12:10AM
When did they purchase Sineplex? :) Distributing content for someone is not owning them. Evil Angel, for a US example, distributes all kinds of product from various companies and directors and they don't own any of it. Whether you like or hate LP and Sineplex, let's be clear. Sineplex is a company, they sell their scenes to LP who distribute them on their platform. Whether LP buys them outright or pays commissions on sales or some other way, they are two separate businesses and one just distributes for the other. 7-11 doesn't own Coca Cola but they distribute all their products.
well, it is LEGAL in many countries in Europe and so easier obviously......
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Posted - Apr 12 2017 : 6:35AM
Exactly what i said ... Sineplex is an independant porn studio and LP buys their scenes (LP distributes sineplex scenes). LP and Sineplex are two separate entities, two separates companies and if Sineplex wants to make their own scenes and not release it through LP, they could very well do just that ... LP owns Gonzo and Giorgio Grandi, they don't own Sineplex ... !
pornography wasn't sex but fantasies of an impossibly hospitable world 12377 Posts 9/07
Posted - Apr 13 2017 : 3:14AM
There was already a picture posted on this forum of a 'Sineplex' contract and it was from the same company that owns LP but this is all a well very beaten dead horse of a debate at this point, let's move on.
When they say you get free daily tickets for ex premium scenes as a member - does this mean you can only download a certain number of ex premium scenes without using your tickets? Thanks
Question for fellow American customers of LP. Have any of you been able to get the scenes not available in our area? Was looking up scenes of Lola Taylor and some are not available to us for what I assume is piss scenes. I don't care for pissing in scenes but I would like to see these scenes anyway, especially since Lola is one of my favorites. It sucks since I've been a customer or LP for a year now but can't get all the content.
What i would love to see more in LP is friendly fire cumshots! When in a DP position one guy to cum lets say on her ass cheeks while the other one is still fucking her or vise versa and stuff like that...
What Have You Done To My Little Cable Boy? 2966 Posts 5/10
Posted - May 20 2017 : 3:36AM
I like the LP concept. Anal, DAP..big fan. And some scenes are really, really good. But I am not much into east european (porn)girls. I loved Angel Dark, Rita Faltoyano or Jane Darling, but the current euro (porn) generation with all the tattoos and skinny bodies isn't so appealing to me. LP with more american girls and some 'good old days' euro girls, would be heaven on earth for me.
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Posted - May 21 2017 : 2:30PM
I am wondering at this point why LP even brings in women for their scenes. By the looks of the content they continuously put out, they'd rather be filming gay orgies. I just don't know why they're even trying to pretend.
I'm surprised with some posters on ADT there hasn't been someone posting their thesis statement on why the sex on LegalPorno is the best and the rest of the industry would be better off following the example set forth. ----Dread's Twitter----
I read that LP does have a large gay following - probably because, as you imply, the focus of the action is on men rather than on the single female usually buried beneath a mass of male flesh. These multimen-on-one-woman cockfests certainly don't work for me, but they obviously do for LP, otherwise they wouldn't produce them. Edited by - PlanB on 5/22/2017 3:07:31 AM
We will have to see but you may have just opened a can of worms. I applaud LP for having carved a very unique niche on the internet. Until they arrived there was no one shooting DAP's on a daily basis. In fact until LP there wasn't even one studio shooting them on any kind of basis. I know they have their very loyal and quite vocal fans that absolutely go crazy anytime there is a new DAP but frankly that is one fetish that I can't seem to enjoy because no matter how much some of them look like they are enjoying it. My brain can't seem to agree with what it is seeing. It doesn't help when you see blood or when you see what the assholes of some of these very young women look like after they have done a couple. Case in point the 20 years old Rebecca who has appeared 20 times since 2015. Has done 9 DAP and one TAP and she now sports a huge rosebud in her latest video released on May 5th. Call me weird but the ability to push out your internal track is not something that anyone should aspire to or hope for.
Agreed. Only downside is not enough curves. If there were more girls like Proxy Paige itd be ideal. Ideally they'd get more top American girls over like they did recently with Veronica Avluv, AJ Applegate, Maddy O'Reilly etc
Still seeing things I can't believe the things I'm seeing on the Legal Porno site, I'm addicted. Debut for Lilya Lush, Double Anal of course with 5on1 (they call a mini gangbang LOL) She cries tears of joy during the scene, what a slut! She says she been with over 1,000 men at the beginning of the scene. Introduced to a girl who's not that new, Kristy Black. Super Hot, she has "I Love Anal Sex" tatooed above her ass, literally! Not a fake tattoo or temporary, real ink! Kristy is super hot too Super hot and gorgeous Penthouse Pets like Tina Kay doing every act imaginable with a smile (including drinking piss). It's must be another planet! Can't wait to see what's next
Yeah its down, It was up and down like a yo-yo yesterday and it appears to be back up again but for how long, who knows as they appear to be having hosting issues Edited by - Another Fine on 6/11/2017 3:55:37 AM Edited by - Another Fine on 6/11/2017 3:58:08 AM
We have resolved issue with unexpected DNS problem. All should be fine now, just reload or set your DNS for google's 8.8.8.8 if you should have problem with cached records. Many apologies for inconvenience. Quote from one of the Legalporno IT Team, everything should be fixed now
^ my thoughts exactly legal porno is double anal gangbang heaven, if you enjoy either of those genres your going to fucking love it and will be looking to their most recent releases next time your in that mode/zone :)
^&^^ It's clear within the first few minutes of her first LP scene that Jureka has no limits. Not too many women can push a large apple out of their asses. That said I don't expect her to have a long career at LP or for that matter any major studio if for no other reason that she has no limit and has already done some of the most extreme things a human can do in her first video. I will finish by saying that she is quite beautiful and has a nice looking body but her choice of body art is rather extensive and weird looking. She basically looks like she went into a tattoo shop and picked random tattoos and told the tech to put them wherever he wanted to.
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A_Fan Deactivated User
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Posted - Jun 28 2017 : 12:17AM
Best performace I have ever seen from LP in this 2 part scene that just came out . Its incredible what she does, and with fun and enthusiasm. Hard for me to believe she has not done porn before (I cant find anything else out there that I know of). She is good looking enough and has a nice enough body she could go places if she came to the US, but as the other poster said , since she has done so much in her first scenes it is difficult for demand to build for her and she may not get offered ton of work. (May Thai hasn't been given a ton of work since her debut which was with double anal and she is perfect for porn) I dont think the tattos are an issue.. I know ADT seems to have a lot of anti-tattoo fans but they sell well to a lot of people. I personally love them and even if they look weird it is her expression and I love that. Amazing performance all the way... I hope LP has more in the can because she is something.....
Posted - Apr 8 2017 : 1:15PM
