This is probably a bit of a stupid question from someone who had a recurring monthly ticket purchase from Legal Porno for probably more than five years and who now has over 1000 scenes from them, but I'm still a bit confused about something.
(Full disclosure - my interest in videos here ended four or five years ago for a lot of the reasons that people continue to criticize them. It's now circus acts that I'm not interested in. I will, however, likely continue to buy their annual Christmas orgy videos.)
Legal Porno began life as Legal Porno. I get that. I also get that they rebranded into AnalVids several years ago. Who's to argue against truth in labelling?
My question is this - where does PornBox come in? PornBox isn't the site name, that's AnalVids, but if I were to purchase a video, it's done through PornBox. Is PornBox like a biller or a single point of sale for all the studios represented at AnalVids? If I am telling somebody about the site, I'd likely refer to it as AnalVids and probably wouldn't even mention PornBox.
Great question and sort of a complicated answer. This is based on my own research so if anyone wants to chime in with contrary information please jump in.
The way I understand it Analvids/LegalPorno and Pornbox are both owned by a company called GTFLIX TV.
Analvids/LegalPorno is the production company while Pornbox is the distribution service company (that happens to be owned by the same company). Not all pornbox videos are made by Analvids.
Now GTFLIX TV is in turn owned by a company called WGCZ Holding which is also the owner of xvideos. Now according the Podcast "HotMoney" WGCZ Holding also owns their own payment processor called GTFcharge (which is how they're able to produce such extreme content because they can negotiate with the credit card companies directly.)
So in summary the org-chart probably goes like this:
I like girls like Kacey Kox...Sweet but a slut 247 Posts 12/20
Posted - Sep 16 2023 : 4:00PM
From the video,s on Analvids I don't really get hot. The (mostly Russian) girls are young and pretty. But the sex is (way too) rough...with lots of men and mostly just anal sex and piss. Also you don't get to know anything about the girls (no interviews)...which I always like.....Analvids is not really my thing.
Unfortulately their internal forum has become more extreme over the last 2 years : With the increase of prolap-e , urine , fi-s-t and strange fixation on having TAP and TP throughout the scene , some users are convinced that this is like most scenes should be . ): I think there is some probability that some user´s desensitized brain parts are already damaged and they can not appreciate normal porn and 2010´s hardcore stuff anymore ( which was considered extreme in the 90s anyway ... ) .
On the other hand it´s a tragedy that there are so many beautiful Colombian/Venezuelan gals ( and some Euro gals ) who also take the trip to Praha but they end up doing only extreme stuff and don´t get to do soft scenes for the sister sites like PornW : From time to time I propose that some noobies like Cristina Starr , Helen Star . Moona Snake , Lia Ponce , Lena Coxx , Mells Blanco and many others get some lez 3soms , foot BG , BGG scenes to add variety to the gal´s portfolios and thus increase their attractivness . But this almost never happpens .
Similarly , no one is thinking about establishing a studio in Colombia to do mainstream scenes with these beauties ; besides doing classical DP/DAP gangbangs ( like Gonzo studio 5 ys ago ) .
What Have You Done To My Little Cable Boy? 2966 Posts 5/10
Posted - Sep 17 2023 : 7:14AM
To be brutally honest - I think their forum is filled with sexual psychopaths and pedophiles. What violent fantasies are desired and demanded there. And the girls should preferably all look as young as possible. Best around 12-14 years with school backpack. When you also read how the studios are tearing each other apart, you get the impression that this is the porn industry at its darkest.
I have the same question, and a couple of related questions.
Is one able to download purchased scenes, or are they only viewable on the site?
If I let my membership lapse, do I still have access to scenes that I purchased with tickets?
The TKT Packages include "Access to 1900+ member scenes immediately". Does that mean scenes that can be viewed for free? What are they like--is this of value?
Schwenko and Pollo Marco - I might be able to shed some light on your questions. I sent them an email a while back as well and haven't heard anything from them. I'm guessing they don't respond to emails. Because of this, I did some research and came up with some answers. Also, up until a few years ago I had a monthly subscription of tickets, so I know how that system works. I've probably got about 1000 scenes from there.
The cost of the tickets varies. Here's a screenshot of the various levels. You can buy them as a one-time purchase or as a subscription. But don't think of this as a typical porn site subscription. What you are "subscribing" to is having your allotment of tickets topped up each month. You then must buy individual scenes using those tickets.
Each scene also can be purchased just using a credit card. That tends to be a bit more expensive than using tickets. Note in this shot that there is a price in tickets or USD. (You can also switch to different currencies easily. I'm in Canada and usually have amounts in CAD but I assume that you are both in the US so I switched to USD.)
The cost of each scene also varies but you can see in the lower left corner of each thumbnail what the ticket cost is. If you open that scene, you'll see other purchasing options, including just buying it using your credit card (as in the shot above).
(Note the ticket price in the lower left of each scene. If you're wondering, I blocked the second scene since it shows peeing and that is prohibited at ADT.)
Unlike a traditional porn site membership where you would normally have access to everything, the only thing you can access at AV are those scenes that you have purchased using tickets or a credit card. (There may be some free scenes available. I'll comment on that below.) Nothing else is available to you unless you also buy it. The silver lining here, is that you could have no tickets remaining in your account but still be able to access your purchased scenes indefinitely.
I think what I've written is self-explanatory, but I'll include an example in case it isn't. Let's say you make a one-time purchase of 50 tickets for $59.90 USD. Then, you use those tickets to buy five scenes that each cost nine tickets. What you have access to is only those five scenes that you've purchased. But you do have permanent access to those scenes anytime you want it. Using my example, you'd have those five scenes, and you'd have five tickets left over. If you found a scene that cost five tickets, then you could use your entire allotment. Unfortunately, the ticket cost for scenes is rarely a whole number. It's more frequently a strange number like 8.74 tickets, or something like that.
You could also buy a ticket "subscription" which would reload whatever number of tickets you choose each month. Then, as in the example above, you could spend those tickets on scenes until you run out of tickets. Those scenes you buy would then be added to your library and remain accessible to you permanently. In the top screenshot, the ticket subscription is "TKT Memberships." Those are recurring, as opposed to the packages labelled "Ticket (TKT) Packages."
I probably should mention this as I don't think it's obvious in my answer - any scenes you purchase are available for downloading or streaming. Both offer multiple resolutions and when 4K is available, you can see that on the thumbnail.
Pollo Marco - I think I've answered your questions above as well, except for the last one. But just to be clear, any scenes you buy can be downloaded or streamed. And yes, any scenes you buy can be accessed in your library any time. For example, I suspect I purchased my first scenes there close to 10 years ago and the almost-1000 scenes I've purchased over the years are all still available in my library even if I know tickets in my account.
I see that when you look for information on ticket packages it says you get access to 1900+ scenes. There are free scenes, but I can't remember where or how to find them. Maybe someone else has that answer. I do recall that I downloaded some of those free scenes and they are quite old and relatively low resolution. If you can find the free scenes, don't expect anything like the current scenes in terms of action or quality.
To make matters more confusing, most of the studios at AnalVids do offer some form of a subscription. You will find that option in the upper right-hand corner of each studio page. There is also a little "information" icon that might give you the answer you're looking for.
Now, to make things yet more confusing, many studios offer a traditional subscription and something that they call a "box" subscription. Those are different. I've never subscribed in either of these ways, but there is a studio at Anal Vids I want to subscribe to that has both these options so I've done some research. I'll caution you regarding my answer though - I have no personal experience so I can't confirm if the answers I've found on the Internet are accurate, though I suspect they are.
If you have the option and buy a typical monthly subscription to a studio, my understanding is that you get access to everything that studio has while your subscription is active. You can download and stream scenes. My research indicates that some, and maybe all, studios have a download limit of 500 scenes per month. I don't think there is any limit on streaming. When you cancel your subscription or it expires, any of the videos you've downloaded or watched do not appear in your library. You lose access to them, just like you would with any other porn site.
A "Box" subscription isn't like a typical monthly porn subscription. When you sign up, you get access to the past month of available scenes. So if you join on October 30, my understanding is you get access to every scene uploaded by that studio in October. Each day of your membership you get access to more scenes. My research on this subject is a bit hazy, but it sounds like each day you get access to another month. In other words, if you take a monthly Box membership, then at the end of your membership you would have access to 30 months of scenes from that studio. Then, because this is a Box membership, that means that any scene you have downloaded remains available to you permanently in your own library. Presumably you would need to download these because I don't know any other way to put them into your library, though streaming may do it as well. I've only ever downloaded. You could buy a Box membership, download a bunch of scenes from that studio, and then cancel your membership at the end of the month and you would still have access to all those scenes permanently.
I hope I've answered your questions and haven't confused you further. Let me know if you have any additional questions and I will try to answer them. Note that I'm away from October 9 to October 15 so if you ask a question then, don't think I'm ignoring you. I'm not leaving until Monday, October 9, so if you have any questions before then, I'll keep an eye on this thread.
I joined once and will never join again despite there being a lot more scenes I would like to download. Three reasons: 1. As the Admiral pointed out, the whole setup is convoluted and confusing. 2. Maybe they were having a bad month, but the download speeds were horrible. It wasn't unusual to take 15 minutes to download a 2GB file. And I have a 1 gig internet plan. 3. The pricing struck me as much higher than your typical porn subscription. I just didn't find the value to be a good match with the price.
1. Not only is the whole setup convoluted and confusing, but it's unnecessarily so. It isn't like there aren't other subscription models around. Networks like Adult Time, Adult Prime and even Evil Angel have found better ways that work. I'm sure that allowing a standard subscription model could work with an algorithm running in the background that distributes earnings to the studio that's getting the views. Yes, I admit there is the fact that what people see as LP/AV/PB is mostly the key studios (Gonzo, Giorgio Grande, NRX, etc.) so they would get most of the earnings, but that might not be a bad thing. It may be that LP/AV/PB is simply too big. In a way, there is a comparison to Videobox, which has always prioritized quantity over quality. Then again, given that LP/AV/PB has its own proprietary biller, that's probably why there are so many small studios here. But the bottom line is that they really do need a less confusing system.
2. That's usually my experience too. I always chalked it up to them being in the Czech Republic and me being in Canada, but I don't experience the same slow speeds from sites like Adult Prime, which are also across the pond from me. Occasionally I get decent speeds, but that's the exception. Given how much they rake in each month, you'd think they could afford some hardware upgrades.
3. The pricing has always been much higher than a typical site, but over the past five years or so it's gone even higher. As I said in my longer response above, I kept a running ticket subscription for years and have amassed a collection of around 1000 scenes. But I don't have recurring tickets now and haven't for at least four years and the reason is the cost. I recall that back when I was a regular buyer that it was rare that a scene would cost more than 10 tickets. Now, finding a scene in excess of that isn't hard. As you note, the value is off here. I'm more than willing to subscribe to an expensive site because cost is less important to me than value. If a site offers something unique that I'm interested in, I'm willing to pay more for it. But the value proposition with LP/AV/PB is off these days.
Having said all that, I am interested in trying a subscription or two when I'm back from a trip in a week. I'm looking at joining Porn World using the traditional subscription option (not the "Box" option - I don't care about indefinite access). Getting unrestricted access to PW for a month for $35 CAD ($25 USD) seems like a good deal - if my research is correct about what you get for the subscription fee.
I'm also thinking of subscribing to Bang Bros through LP/AV/PB. I like BB, but I find their own site is a minefield of potential scams. Maybe they've changed, but I recall once being a member at BB and clicked on a link for a stand-alone BB site to see what it had to offer and as soon as I clicked the link I was signed up and charged. I haven't been back since. Jesus, you know you're a scam when a guy who pays for his porn feels more confident joining LP/AV/PB than your own site.
If, and more likely when, I sign up for PW and BB, I'll provide some comments here.
rearadmiral, my profuse thanks to you!!! You've answered our questions completely and coherently. In addition to being generous with your time and knowledge, you're a very clear writer.
This gives me a good picture of the unique and confusing business model of LP/AV.
^ I'm glad I could help. As I said in the above post, in 10 days or so I'll be subscribing to Porn World using the traditional option (not the "box" subscription) and I'll post my comments on that here.
About a month ago I mentioned that I was thinking of subscribing to one or more of the studios at LP/AV. Up until recently, I had only ever purchased tickets, and I'd even stopped doing that regularly. I did subscribe to one of the studios and for anyone interested in accessing LP/AV scenes this way, some of this may be of use to you.
I recently subscribed to one of the three core studios that everyone thinks of when they think of LP/AV. It's NRX Studio. It's the newest of the three core studios, with the other two being Gonzo.com and Giorgio Grandi.
Over a decade of buying tickets to collect scenes at LP/AV, I'd say that more than 90% of what I bought and downloaded was from Gonzo.com and Giorgio Grandi. For those familiar with LP/AV, and specifically those two studios, there are three ways to access their scenes. First, you can simply buy the scene by using your credit card, second, and likely the most common, is to buy tickets which can then be used to get access to a scene, and third, some studios have an option where you can purchase every scene they have. I highly doubt that many people take advantage of that third option, since it is prohibitively expensive. For example, the current cost for me to buy everything from Gonzo.com is $10,412 CAD. Ouch.
I had been browsing around on LP/AV recently and noticed that most of the studios there do offer some form of subscription. In many cases, there are two different subscription models. The first is like a traditional porn site subscription model most of us are used to. For a monthly fee you get access to everything on that studio site. The second method is what LP/AV calls a "Box" subscription. Each method has its pros and cons.
When it comes to the more traditional method, the biggest negative is that for most studios, if not all of them, this is pretty much a streaming-only membership. For example, my monthly subscription to NRX Studio only allows six downloads for the month. As someone who prefers downloads, that's a serious limitation, but I still found the subscription to be good value.
I'll likely try using a "Box" membership on a different studio. From what I can discern, when I join using the Box method, I'll get access to the most recent 30 days of scenes immediately. Then, every day thereafter I get access to another 30 days of scenes. I will point out that my interpretation of the frequency in which more scenes are accessible is based entirely on some research I've done, and not on personal experience. If I choose to use the Box subscription, I'll post an update on this thread.
The big upside of the Box subscription is that there are unlimited downloads. A downside is that if you join a studio that has been uploading for the last five years, you'd need to maintain a Box subscription for two months in order to access everything. But you would be getting the ability to download.
I will say, however, that as someone who used to purchase tickets every month, I really liked having streaming access to everything at NRX Studio. I find there to be sufficient variety in the scenes so that they don't all look and feel alike. For viewers who don't like "circus porn," you'll have to look elsewhere though, because NRX Studio follows a similar approach as Gonzo.com and Giorgio Grandi.
There is one issue that anyone interested in using the subscription method should be aware of. If you are planning to subscribe to any of the studios, you will have to have an LP/AV account. I assume most people on this thread have that anyway. If you're like me, and regularly purchased tickets, your account is tied to a credit card. In some cases, when you open a studio page you are given clear information on what the subscription fee is and there is a small button to click on to get more information. However, some of the studios do not offer this information and the same button is simply to subscribe. I made the mistake of clicking on this button assuming that I would be given more information and/or options, but by simply clicking on that button I inadvertently subscribed to that studio. Don't make the same mistake I did. What I do now is when I encounter a prospective studio I'd like to subscribe to and they don't offer information on the price, I go on to LP/AV using a different browser that isn't tied to my account and the subscription information is available that way. This is a shady practice and I wish they'd do away with it.
Now for the good news, at least for me. There is a roster of models at NRX Studio that I really like. Your mileage may vary. My preference is models ranging from 18 to 25, petite and small-breasted. Red hair will always be a plus. As someone who collects a lot of anal porn, seeing these absolutely stunning young women in anal scenes makes my subscription worthwhile.
Several of these models, particularly Sofa Weber, Sasha Paige and Nicole Murkovski have been mentioned here and in other threads before, but for those with tastes like mine, there are many similar models here. They aren't exclusive to NRX Studio, but, for example, Sofa Weber has 31 scenes on that one studio alone (some just her and some with other models too).
Here are just some of the models that make my subscription worthwhile. They are in alphabetical order as to rank them would be almost impossible.
rearadmiral, thank you such much! The company should hire you to do their web site documentation. I have to shake my head and laugh at how complicated their business model is. It's so much more convoluted than any other site.
Your explanation is quite clear. It's not always clear how these options are shown on the site. About this "box" subscription, is one of your screenshots an example of how that looks? Could you cite a studio and its price for a box subscription? I want to make sure I'm understanding the difference between "traditional" and "box" subscription plans.
i really do not have a "piss thing", but for some reason i could watch Anna De Ville drink piss all day long. she is so pretty too, if she didnt have the tattoos she would be prefect.
Thanks for your comments, Pollo Marco. ADT is a great place for sharing information and I'm always glad for the opportunity to add to it. I take a lot more than I give.
The business model is certainly more confusing than with just about any other site. I think the biggest issue is the cost. Subscriptions, if available, seem to an option that may reduce costs too, but subscriptions aren't available for the two best-known studios on the site - Gonzo.com and Giorgio Grandi. For me, that's partly what made a subscription to NRX Studio an easy decision.
The screenshots don't illustrate the difference between a traditional (but mostly streaming) subscription, and a "Box" subscription. Those screenshots are a cautionary warning for anyone to not make the same mistake I did and click on something that says "click here for access" and hoping to get more information, because the box is accurate - clicking that will cause you to join and be charged.
Another confusing part of any subscription is that there is no standardization among the studios. Some offer no subscriptions at all, some only traditional and some both traditional and "Box." To paraphrase Forrest Gump's mother, LP/AV is like a box of chocolates; you never know what you're going to get. I'll add that it's possible that the only studio offering the "Box" method is Bang Bros. One really annoying thing is that it appears that the options for each studio change regularly too. It's a bit of a moving target.
Here's a screenshot of the Bang Bros studio where I've clicked on the "?" button to get more information.
I haven't subscribed to the BB studio here yet (though I plan to) and I'll be taking a bit of a leap of faith when I do. It appears that there are two options. First is the "Full Access Membership," which seems to be a traditional subscription, and then there is the "Box" option. As you can see, the Box option is a bit confusing. Your access to scenes grows every day during your membership, but it isn't clear how it grows. I did find information on the LP/AV forums that seems to say every day you get another month of scenes available. But here's another problem. The BB scenes are listed as being as old as 22 years ago. I have no doubt that this is right since BB has been around a long time. But if you get a new month added every day, you'd have to keep a Box subscription for a long time to get access to everything. 22 months at 12 months per year is 264 months. If my information and math are correct, then you'd need to keep a Box subscription for 264 days, or just shy of nine months to get access to everything.
Are you confused? I am!
So what would happen if I clicked the Join box on the Bang Bros page? I really don't know. Would I be given the option of a traditional (but streaming) membership or Box subscription? I don't know. Maybe I get a Box subscription with no options.
If I opt to take the risk on a BB subscription, I'll be sure to post the results here.
Here's a shot of the Richard Mann studio page:
As you can see here, I also clicked the "?" button and there is no Box option. This looks to be the same kind of membership I have at NRX where I get streaming access and can download a limited number of videos per month of membership.
I hope this answers some of your questions. Feel free to post more here if I've missed anything. If I learn more, I'll be sure to post those here too.
I see that now. Not related to the Rara photo, but a thing when posting screenshots from LP/AV that doesn't really happen with screenshots of other sites is I have to scour any thumbnails in the shot to make sure those don't violate the photo rules here. Sometimes I have to find other screenshots to demonstrate my point and sometimes I have to edit them to block any prohibited content.
I'll have to check Rara's content on LP/AV. It's odd she has scenes there but doesn't do anal, since that's their whole schtick there. Hell, it's even in the site name. I suspect she's on one of the "softer" studio channels.
What Have You Done To My Little Cable Boy? 2966 Posts 5/10
Posted - Nov 26 2023 : 8:52AM
According to the AV/LP forum, GONZO is closing its doors for good. In the end, it was a slow death. Nevertheless, a considerable blow for Euro porn and all those who can do little with OF and the meanwhile desolate US porn.
^ plenty of work to be had and in much healthier and safer conditions. Personally the less young stars from Europe get put through this kind of treatment on screen the more my interest in them increases - I know I'll personally find a much easier time of finding sites to subscribe to and stars, starlets and future stars to follow from Europe. Hoping to get a real nice Euro renaissance in the end with the best looking women in the world. I am more than happy to a pay a premium for premium content - newest and most beautiful talent in the world, doing the most beautiful things to one another in luxurious settings, crisp and sharp camera work, no LP veterans or talent.
^^^ I hadn't heard of GONZO shutting down. Thanks for mentioning it. I find that the three main studios there, Giorgio Grandi, GONZO and NRX all produce pretty much the same content.
The 2023 Christmas orgy from Gonzo studio is up. It's pricey at close to 20 tickets, but it's almost three hours long and there is a BTS video that's over four hours long, so it's still a good value. I find that the BTS videos in the Christmas orgies are at least as good as the main event since there is usually a lot of spontaneous sex happening.
The orgy this year stars Ria Sunn, Luna Rival, Kristy Black, Anna De Ville, Rebel Rhyder, Eden Ivy, Baby Kxtten, Mell Bianco, Leila Botwin, Veronica Leal, and Lydia Black.
^ Shadow115, I suspect you're asking me for my thoughts on the 2023 Christmas orgy, but I'm not sure, so I'll go ahead and give them anyway in case anyone wants to know.
The bottom line is that the scene and BTS this year are good, but not my favourite of these annual events. Some may see this as odd, but I buy these scenes more for the BTS than for the scene itself. The scene itself isn't really any different from any other LP/AV orgy scene, apart from the models wearing Christmas-themed lingerie. As you point out, any LP orgy scene will often have shots of men's asses as they are piled onto a woman. I guess when DP, DAP and even TAP is part of your brand, this is unavoidable.
Here's a shot from the scene itself:
Fans of anal and watersports will find a lot to like here, as both those things are also part of the LP/AV brand.
For me, the value in these annual orgies is the BTS scene that accompanies the scene itself. For 2023, the BTS is a bit of a disappointment, though I'll admit that this is more subjective because it mostly lacks what I liked in past BTS scenes. One thing I like that is here in the 2023 BTS is the random and seemingly spontaneous sex that goes on. That happens in all the annual BTS scenes. As the women are having hair and makeup done, another model may be bent over the kitchen counter getting her ass randomly fucked. I do like that, and that is here in the over-four-hour BTS.
What's missing for me this year (though there is a bit of it here) are the segments where the BTS camera captures the pre-scene photo shoots and then the shooting of the scene itself. I know from reading other threads here that a lot of people don't like this, but I suspect I'm not alone in wanting to see more of this.
Here are a couple of screencaps to show what I mean. These are the BTS camera capturing the pre-scene photos being taken:
There is a sub-niche of this that has happened in the past too, where the guys who will later be in the scene are shown watching the pre-scene photos being taken. Yes, I know this is subjective, but I like it. In more than one instance, the guys are taking photos too with their phones. I think part of why I like this particularly is because I wonder what must be going through the guy's heads as they're watching this. Is a guy thinking "First I'll face-fuck Anna de Ville and then I'll fuck Veronica Leal's ass." Maybe.
There are also usually segments where the BTS camera captures the actual scene being shot:
In the 2019 BTS there is a thing that happens that isn't in the main scene and hasn't happened since. I assume this is taken before or after the pre-scene photos are shot because all the women are in their outfits and all the men are in the room, though still dressed in street clothes. Each of the women get to choose a card from a stack with each card having a sex act listed. Then the models have ribbons tied loosely around their necks and the loose ends of the ribbons are all bunched up and each guy comes forward to randomly choose a ribbon. While this isn't stated, I presume that when the scene starts, the model whose ribbon was selected by that guy will perform that sex act with him. I can't explain why this works for me, but it does.
Even though the scene was expensive, I don't regret buying it. It isn't my favourite of this series, but it's still good. A lot of this is subjective because I like Christmas-themed scenes and I like rough, anal-themed orgies. I just wish the BTS had more of what I've described above.
Who knows what 2024 will bring? Someone noted in this thread that the Gonzo studio is closing and since the big annual Christmas orgy was always shot by them, this could be the end of an era. I hope not. I hope that if Gonzo closes that another studio takes up the cause. Giorgio Grandi would be an obvious successor.
What Have You Done To My Little Cable Boy? 2966 Posts 5/10
Posted - Dec 26 2023 : 11:16AM
This ominous "XXX" moderator has already confirmed that this Xmas scene was the last project. What 2024 will bring? EU Porn is also expecting tough times. GG once mentioned that it is becoming increasingly difficult to find new girls and that established girls are demanding higher and higher fees - which in turn leads to higher ticket prices.
Therefore, I wouldn't be surprised if 2024 is the last Studio GG year in this form.
I believe she doesn't do DAP, she's probably waiting for the big day and building anticipation. On a related note during the BTS I heard Anna Deville say she won't do DP. What's up what that? Has she never done it or just won't do it now? Or her pussy is off limits?
^ I didn't notice her saying that, but since the BTS is around four hours long, it's no surprise I missed it. This seems odd since Anna is a model who seems to have very few limits. Do you remember the timestamp for when she says this?
just rejoined recurring ticket program for first time in 6 months. with my 42 tickets i purchased 2 scenes for the 29.99 monthly fee that would of cost me 65 dollars on manyvids. literally saved 35 bucks and still had a few tickets left over to purchase a third scene. if you can figure out the ticket system and are willing to spend time digging around you can save a ton of money with this website if you are like me and into buying unique boutique content\rare scenes compared to buying the same scenes individually on clips4sale or manyvids. again, you have to get accustomed to the strange way of purchasing vids and have to learn how to search and navigate but in the end well worth it! also sadly it is still billed to a company in prague so pre paid cards will not work for subscribing\purchasing tickets. however, i have seen no problems with the billing despit it appearing somewhat shady on the surface being based over seas.
^^^ the 2 scenes were kazumis latest scene for disciples of desires containing rough dvp and piss. and sophia lockes male foot and ass worship scene with nade nasty. a lot of producers like DOD and individual performers like nade nasty have their manyvids content all available through pornbox for a lot cheaper than other places when using the ticket system. thought i would clarify exactly what i was referring to and how i saved all that money.
You (and others) have raised a good point that people should note: anyone looking for specific content that is available on LP/AV/PB and on other platforms should do their homework and look at the cost at LP/AV/PB. The Disciples of Desire scenes are a good example. Those are definitely cheaper on LP/AV/PB than on MV.
Another thing to consider is that a lot of these studios have a subscription package available at LP/AV/PB, including DoD. But, and this is where people need to do their homework before buying, many of these subscriptions have significant limitations. You need to click the information button to get more details. Using DoD as an example, at LP/AV/PB there is a subscription available and it isn't expensive. The caveat is that it only allows one download per month though some of the other scenes can still be streamed. Also, the information about the subscription says that while it gives access to 61 videos, it doesn't give access to 36 videos. Presumably that means not even streaming access. I can't see any way to determine what's in and what's out if you subscribe, so it would be a big pain in the ass to join with a subscription only to find a scene or two that you really wanted to see is excluded.
Another subscription issue at LP/AV/PB is that with some studios, what's available seems to change frequently. Some days there are two types of subscription to Bang Bros and some days there is only one. One interests me, the other doesn't. That raises another problem - what happens if I click the button to subscribe to Bang Bros? Will I then be given the option to choose the type of subscription I want? I can't tell. And since LP/AV/PB has my credit card on file, I could be charged for the type of subscription I don't want.
Since I learned that there were subscriptions available to a lot of the studios at LP/AV/PB I've been digging around. I've subscribed to three already, though one was an 'accident.'. I clicked on the subscription button to the Tommy Wood studio as I was looking for more information and was immediately subscribed.
I'd really like to subscribe to the Disciples of Desire and Bang Bros studios. If I take the plunge and have any additional information, I'll share it here.
Final comment on the comments on the ticket system at LP/AV/PB: as others have said, it's different and may seem intimidating at first but it works, and it works well. LP/AV/PB have their own biller and I've never had a problem with them in the 10+ years I've been buying scenes there. If anyone is on the fence about the ticket system, it's safe.
^^^^ with DOD only 1 download a month is a little meager in my opinion. for example with just the standard 42 tickets a month you could download in some cases 2 DOD scenes individually without subscription for the amount of tickets provided with the standard monthly ticket subscription. some DOD vids when bought individually are 22 tickets and at least a couple are 18 to 19 tickets. that can just add to the confusion as nothing with their business model is easy lol.
also just how much bangbros content is included? is it recent content only or do you get access to legacy content from 15 to 20 years ago? like most websites that big i imagine they started deleting most of the scenes from pre 2008 :\
^ I hadn't noticed that the DoD scenes were that expensive at LP/AV/PB. I prefer being able to download scenes, but for anyone who is okay with streaming, then the monthly rate is a good deal, with the caveat that not all scenes are included in the monthly subscription.
I haven't had a Bang Bros membership in a long time. Their shady business practices drove me away permanently, which makes a subscription to the BB studio at LP/AV/PB an interesting option. There are currently just over 10,000 scenes on the LP/AV/PB studio page, which has to be a significant proportion of BB scenes overall. The oldest date from 2001* and appear to be all Bang Bus scenes. It looks like a new scene is added daily.
There is a caveat with joining the BB studio at LP/AV/PB though. Why is there always a caveat with LP/AV/PB?? I don't know what will happen when I click the "Bang Bros all access membership" button as there are two distinct options. There is a "Full Access Membership" option and a "Box" option. The latter gives you download access, but on day one you only get access to the past 30 days of scenes. On day two, you get another month. I recall figuring that you'd need to stay signed up for around three years to get access to the oldest scenes. The full access membership appears to give streaming access to everything immediately. My preference would be the streaming only to have a look around first. It's a relatively expensive subscription at $40 CAD, so I'd rather not take a risk. I wish they were more transparent. That, or they'd answer questions posted on the forum, which they don't.
* There is a scene that is dated from 1999, 24 years ago. Since it stars Kira Perez, who is, coincidentally, 24 years old, I'm confident in saying this is mis-labelled.
^^^^ should of seen that coming with bangbros through them. i need the earliest scenes to nearly have complete ownership of the entire library. i have nearly all up to 2005. that is very frustrating as i am not going to subscribe for 3 years to get download access to the earliest scenes.
also with DOD there is at least one scene on their manyvids that is not on their lp page. it is a third golden shower scene with coco lovelock called "pimpin poison". as it is my favorite current performer and a rare scene i may have to buy it through manyvids for the premium price. there are many scenes on their lp studio page that are not on manyvids but the most coveted video of theirs for me is sadly only available for download off of manyvids. there are a lot of quirks to say the least with these sites lol.
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Posted - Dec 31 2023 : 6:25PM
The New Years scene released today by Natasha Teen is epic. The beautiful Hayek sisters and Natasha with Mike Chapman and friends. Anal debauchery at it's finest !
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