Not to be a pian but that was NOT what bigfoot posted. We already covered this fairly well. The statement that started this thread is that bigfoot wanted to find reviewers who are sitting through films and grading adult films in "a similar taste for the harder side of porn, but I'd also like to see who else is out there." His question of "I need to see of there are other reviewers out their who enjoy rough-themed adult DVD's and have the courage to say so." is that we do NOT have too many reviewers who write from that perspective nor looking for such films, because as already stated there are precious few reviewers who are looking at an adult film and grading it for whip technique, power edge, domination imagination, etc etc. as we all basically agreed that is NOT what most consumers of adult films are looking for and not what most USA producers are catering to in order to make a basically sellable product to the mass adult film market who when they do films such as Fuck Slaves ALWAYS take the girl OUT of the bondage while the sex is going on. He already stated if kink produced DVDs, he would be sated for now with such product. But we already went through that. If you know of some dedicated reviewers who are reliably reviewing adult films such as "Jake Malone's Fuck Slaves" and making specific comment on the bondage technique and whether the girls remain in bondage while the sex is going on and not commenting on the sex itself, please let us know. I would be interested in reading such writers myself and would search through for their ideas on few films I know personally.
Yes I know of that deal But that was BEFORE kink found out that almost all of their "water bondage" and "sex and submission" content was pirated and is being actively sold in Europe right now. And as stated in the article if all had gone well they would have already released that first co-production they made in Japan here in the USA WITHOUT the pixelation in the Japan version. Kink has put such DVD production on hold at this time to try to get the obvious piracy stopped as they are not going to make money competing with their own product at the normal distributor cost versus the knockoff prices. kink has their own news postings here http://news.behindkink.com
Exactly - THANK YOU! I never said I want reviewers who rate purely bondage films. IMHO, I find simple B&D rather boring without a decent mental degradation or humiliation that comes along with someine in that position. For me, the fact that someone is shown "willingly" getting into bondage is a big yawn. I'd rather have the fantasy include people there against their will. Now, I've seen and own several of those, but they just don't go far enough. What's the point of having a kidnapping fantasy if your not going to see actual abuse? And what is more abusing than forced sex - male or female? Now, please understand that this is only a single element of the porn I enjoy so please do not get the idea that I am a rapist or a wanna-be. It is a fantasy, like any porn - this is simply one that is developed. As proof, I cite almost any pornograsphic fiction. If someone is kidnapped and bound, they are almost always sexually assaulted OR turn the tables around and sexually assault the kidnapper. I've never read adult fiction where someone is kidnapped, tied up, whipped, clamped and that's the end of the story. There is always an aspect of sexual assault. Why that doesn't translate to porn movies is beyond me. I think each of you has points and points that you defend well and I thank you for your input. You have offered some good suggestions and off to the web I will go. Edited by - bigfoot on 2/27/2008 10:49:34 AM
I typed up a rather long reply yesterday but it is not here. Damn - well, I do not have half an hour to craft another response so I will hit the highlights - Why do I like this sort of scene? Simply put, I believe it is because it resonates with me - probably because I believe it is real. I believe she was really crying and that struck a chord.Make no mistake - I do not get off on the unhappiness of others. In this case, here is a woman who has been in at least seven other adult titles before this one, should have known what she was getting into, got paid for it, had the ability to say "Stop" at any time, did not sue afterwards, never charged rape, etc., In short, both sides benefitted from the situation - she got paid for sex and Khan Tusion got a great scene that appeals to perverts like me. So I have no guilt that I am getting off on someone being raped or humiliated. It would be a totally different situation if the woman was not able to say stop or didn't know what she was getting into. That is why I do not watch or purchase Max Hardcore. I have read many interviews where the ladies had no idea that Max would start urinating on their face, for example. Roxy Jezel was pissed off (no pun intended) when he did that because she never agreed to that, never knew it was coming and in fact had said no when asked about it. That makes a HUGE difference in my comfort level as a viewer. I don't want to see people getting blindly abused. Where is the fun in that. Brynn knew what was coming and decided to go forth even when her emotions took over. There is a website called inhumanity.com where you can see things happening to people that they have no control over - women getting raped, homeless getting attacked, etc., - stuff like that repulses me. But a woman making adult films has the ability to control the situation. Again, Brynn knew what was coming and decided to go forth even when her emotions took over. I hope that helps
Hey Bob...first of all thanks. It's tough to walk that line. We all enjoy what we enjoy and I (as well as the others you mention) refuse to fake it. It wouldn't be fair to the readers or to the producers of this kind of porn. I appreciate well made porn. Well made rough stuff, well made couples porn, well made whatever. Some of it doesn't turn me on and I try to be very clear on that so that people like yourself can still get some value from the review. If you know that I don't like X,Y and Z and you do, then you can judge. Clearly you do that and I'm proud of the fact that my reviews have something to offer you even if we disagree. I consider that to be a huge compliment. Thank you. (Many people just give up reading if they disagree.) With that let me extend a sincere invitation to you. You feel the review community is missing a voice that expresses an open like for this kind of porn. Would you be interested in reviewing some of it. I've been opening the site up to outside writers and am specifically looking for voices that are different from my own. If you're interested in reviewing or even writing a piece on rough sex, please let me know. I would be honored to have your contribution.
"Again, Brynn knew what was coming and decided to go forth even when her emotions took over." This is kinda where the rough sex/bdsm in porn thing loses me a bit and has done for the last few years - her emotions took over? Was she still in control of the situation? I sort of worry about folks who have no attachment or real care for each other venturing into games where the submissive woman loses control (if she ever had it). My experience of sub/dom games is that they're often complex and subtle - someone who has sunk deep into genuine sub mode needs to be cared for and may not always be in a place to make the best decisions about their own welfare at that specific moment. And no I don't think porn girls are victims - not saying that at all. Just that porn almost never has any kind of subtlety, it's all ramped up to pantomime level and that worries me when that involves women weeping. A lot of bigfoot's descriptions turn my stomach - that the search for "realism" in porn needs to be illustrated by real distress just makes me feel bad, which makes me feel weird because I like sex. Bleeding Heart over and out.
It is my experience that the SUB holds ALL of the power. She/he can say stop and the game ends, regaredless of where the DOM is the process. It is the S&M equivelant of Blue Balls for the DOM. Plus, crying can be an emotional release the SUB is looking for and the reason they are SUB to begin with. I'm not saying that was the case with Brynn, but she did hold the power to say STOP just like any other woman in any other adult film. If she didn't hold that power, THEN it would be rape and I would agree with you. Sorry I turned your stomach. Not everything under the porn rainbow sits well with everyone. I spell reliefe T-U-M-S! Hope that helps.
Hey Bob???? Who the hell is BOB???!!!???? It's Big-foot, Bigfoot! No Bob here - Bigfoot! Hey, I ripped you off an email. Send back a response and we'll chat. Toodles! BIGFOOT
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You'll have to excuse me. I'll blame the cold medicine and the fact that I'm clearly an idiot. Got your email. Will hit you back. Thanks BIG-FOOT Rog Rog Reviews
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