Manuel Ferrara

Edited by - Seijuro on 6/12/2020 1:13:42 PM

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Its just like a performer said on twitter how a well established performer asked to be respected when it came to her boundaries and she got bullied by the director. The director even went as far as to claim that performer was sleeping with her agent. Now if that well established performer can get bullied like that for just asking for respect then how do you think a performer who doesnt have a big name and that isnt well established would be treated? Like I think people fail to realize that.

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Commenting on something you haven't even seen is also not a good thing.

Edited by - Seijuro on 6/12/2020 2:30:57 PM

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Abuse in porn which is a very fucked up issue and as other have stated, it has many different ways of being done. From male performers doing the abuse during a scene to performers shutting up about what is going on because they fear repercussions that will cost them money or even their careers.

Then there's the stuff with Veronica, which is a specific case which we have some knowledge of and the footage from the scene which she claims the abuse happens. And there's a lot to unpack.

If we go with the assumption that her looking as sounding "fine" (or "enjoying it") was just her acting and trying to keep it professional, we also have to take into account she did asked to be chocked and was also chocked by another performer. If you are Ferrara, I have no clue how you are supposed to understand in that moment that Veronica is not only having a terrible time, but she actually feeling abused. If you are the top gonzo performer and it looks and sounds like things are going well and you are even asked to do stuff you normally do (choking), shit...what can you do at that point? stop the scene because... everything seems to be fine?

This does not mean that IF Veronica was feeling violated, it was her fault. NO. That just means porn is a fucked up business were shit like this is enabled and part of course. But it also doesn't mean Manuel was knowingly abusing her or doing anything that she wasn't OK with. Communication is key in porn, and if you can't communicate because the business is toxic, we gotta analyze who and what are making it toxic. In this case there's not thing to base that Ferrara was the culprit of it.

Same thing with the texts. If you go with the assumption that Veronica was just trying to not burn a bridge that could fuck up her income, it's kind of hard to blame Ferrara when he was fair and empathetic towards her situation. Him not wanting to work with her for a bruise just tells us Manuel is strict and picky with his scenes. Which is something that is very known in the industry anyway.

Edited by - volaita on 6/12/2020 4:17:25 PM

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Ok sorry for being all negative because usually Im not on public forum but it really pisses me off to know women are getting abused, finally speaking out and people still dont believe them which is the reason why they was afraid to speak up in the first place. There is no ulterior motive as to why they went along with the abuse and they certainly didnt genuinely like it. If they did they wouldve actually said that by now in all the tweets and videos that they made. All they want is just justice in the same way every victim of abuse has want and Im glad performers are speaking up about it so we can see justice and clean up this industry.

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I'll try again. Why would she ask him to choke her again?

Edited by - seijuro on 6/12/2020 4:45:15 PM

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This person had another case before this too. It seems like everybody in the porn world is out there to just destroy and violate her by any means necessary even casting spells on her to beg for more of this so called abuse even during the scene.

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The reason I watched the scene after reading Jenny's account was so that I could see HER side of it. It was hard to read some of the things that she wrote, and I refused to "look away". What I saw was clearly contradicting what she wrote in many ways. It increased my understanding of how what happened was sad.

We totally agree that someone can "look like they are enjoying it" and yet they are still a victim of assault, they can be acting. But if she is acting, how is Manuel supposed to be aware of that? Manuel is not an expert on the body of every woman in the world. He is an expert at the job he got paid by Evil Angel to do, which I think we can agree is a notably hard style of sex. It sucks for ALL performers that they got booked for a scene where the expectations were so far out of line.

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Why do you think Ryan Madison has been profiting big on Pornfidelity and Teenfidelity even though ALOT of women has said the same thing. He abused them, gave them drugs, etc... Nobody spoke up and agents kept sending girls his way. But I guess everyone turning their heads and will still watch his stuff. That man shouldve been out of business.

What is worse is people are actually trying to justify the actions of abusers. Well she didnt look like she wasnt enjoying it. Again dont give me the guy has a clean record as an excuse. Its either because he really didnt do anything OR since he the biggest fish in the water cover up shhhhhh I didnt see anything. And I dont think no girl is out to get Manuel or anyone else who they said are abusers. All they are doing is telling their story FINALLY and what do they get, people calling them a liar and shaming them. And thats why victims dont speak up.

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If people want to blindly believe people on such a serious matter as sexual assault then that is their prerogative. I knew a white girl years ago that slept with a black guy in my dorm behind her boyfriends back. The boyfriend found out and she accused the black guy of drugging her but wouldn't formally press charges. It caused a shit show at school until she finally came clean after a lot of people there came forward in the black guys defense and she got expelled.

I chose to watch the scene to see if Jenny's description matched what she claimed and it did not. She is disgracefully posting stills with her eyes closed claiming she is half unconscious but if you watch that very still in real-time she is very much into the scene asking to be choked more and the other woman who just on Jenny's band wagon choked her too.

There's also a such thing as credibility too. She has done one professional movie and Manuel thousands over 20 years and is very popular with the his female co-stars. Predators don't wait 20 years to finally prey on women. It's habitual over time. Because of this too I took her claims with a grain of salt and did my own research. My conclusion she and Veronica are straight up lying. It's in the movie and the texts. Jenny is counting on the outrage mob of people who refuse to watch the scene on twitter to blindly back her.

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Ok lets get one thing straight. Im not saying there arent those who will lie about serious allegations as abuse. It does happen. Im saying when something serious as abuse is claimed for ME, I listen to the person claiming it first. Thats serious allegations of abuse. I want to make it perfectly clear that Im the type of person that encourages though who feel like they have been abused to speak up. Ive known people who have been abused and were scared to speak up and just took it for many years. Ive literally seen stories of those who were abused, cried for help and nobody listen and either they got killed by their abuser or they committed suicide. Call Veronica a liar all you want but she said she almost killed herself. If you dont want to believe it then thats fine. Had she did kill herself then that would be a life that shouldnt have been taken. Its something I just cant ignore. Sadly some people do. I truly believe in the truth always coming into the light no matter what. Maybe this is finally the truth coming out about Manuel. Who knows? If he is innocent then I apologize but when more than one claim on him is bad then it doesnt look good.

I dont hear no girl claiming abuse on Ricky Johnson. I dont hear no girl claiming abuse on Johnny Sins. So to me nobody is out to get Manuel. Its not a way of capitalizing because of what? Again performers are finally having the courage of speaking out. Its not just Ginger, Jenny, and Veronica. Kristen Scott spoke out about her abuse, Dana DeArmond spoke out about her abuse, Maddy O'Reilly, the list goes on. So are we to say ALL of them are not telling the truth? See people want to hear the truth but then once the truth is told and people find out its not exactly what they want to hear they dont like it.

Ok so Im going to leave it at that. I said all I have to say on that matter. I try not to be negative on public forum but like abuse is my biggest pet peeve and like as much as I love women finally speaking up it burns me to hear these stories about so many guys in the industry being abusive and then you have the enablers who basically allow it to continue. So this is the last post I will be mentioning about this unless you want to private message me and we can talk that way but Im not trying at all to be rude so if anyone took what I said in a rude way then I apologize. Also I do respect each and everyone opinion too. I stand by my beliefs just like you all do yours and I can respect that as well.

Edited by - LezFan on 6/12/2020 11:01:03 PM

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I completely want to understand any accusations against Manuel. The reason that I appreciate his porn work is specifically because of how he respects women. If someone could explain whether those other names mentioned (Kristen/Dana/Maddy) spoke against Manuel, or if this is about other experiences they had in porn, please let me know.

Manuel's statement is out and I think it explains things clearly. I am proud that he takes such care to empathize with Jenny. This is nothing like the statements of guilty parties who put blame on their accusers. Manuel was reacting to what he saw and what anyone who watches is able to see. It is just as sad for him as it is for Jenny that those reactions were untrue. It is also sad that Jenny had to have physical pain from the scene, unlike Manuel. That is because women in the industry are asked to endure a lot more. But it has nothing to do with the topic of consent, which Jenny was enthusiastically giving to both Manuel and Ginger throughout the scene.

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Manuel is a lot more kind than I am. I've seen this sort of thing happen to someone and I will call liars out every time man or woman. Women deserve to heard and no doubt some have been abused in this industry, but if possible people on the outside should respect the situation and get as much factual information as they can before forming a published opinion. Thanks to EA for leaving the movie available. These are people's lives here and rape/sexual assault is a serious crime to accuse someone of and dangerous to make when you intentionally remain ignorant.

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In terms of the room smelling and being cold, performers work in uncomfortable situations all the time, again that seems to be a communication issue. Certainly something I think the performer has a right to complain about but it is hardly abuse per se.

I mean how much reverse cowgirl do we see in porn and that is an uncomfortable position that no woman enjoys as far as I know (as Manuel notes in the YT video with TT Boy).

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I can't imagine any male performer is comfortable in his job in this era of porn now, no matter how respectful and decent he is. If Manuel(22 years/ 2500 scenes of stellar reputation) isn't safe, none of them are. It's getting to a point where a guy arguing with a girl on set about something arbitrary will result in an angry girl callin him a rapist on twitter(extreme but unfortunately realistic example) shortly after. And many will again, blindly believe her and he's finished.

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I think it is important to take the complaints and accusations of performers seriously as it is far too easy to just dismiss them.

But it is also important to look at each incident carefully, the Jonson podcast about August Ames ultimately arrives at the conclusion that the scene with Dupree was not the cause of her suicide and more ambiguous than mere abuse.

It can be a tricky line, to parse the subtleties of each abuse accusation can be seen as second-guessing or victim-blaming which just discourages the performers on speaking out against abuse. But there are degrees and nuance, a range from miscommunication on set to actual harm and abuse.

We certainly hear from performers about not feeling comfortable speaking out against something on set due to the possibility of negative repercussions on their future work and current pay cheque. That isn't really acceptable.

I'm surprised that a company like EA doesn't have a written contract outlining the do's and don'ts of the scene. I think the industry needs to make it easier for the performers to give written consent ahead of time and also make it easier for them to speak out on set if something is making them uncomfortable, even if they earlier had agreed to it.

Obviously filming people having set can be very tricky, it is a charged act with all kinds of emotional and psychological echoes and implications that one may not even be aware of until actually in the act in question. Many go into porn just for the pay cheque and are not mentally suited to it as well.

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Of course some things can be edited out, but in this case the material that was included clearly disproves many things Jenny was claiming.

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Edited by - Seijuro on 6/13/2020 8:45:32 AM

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Edited by - Seijuro on 6/13/2020 11:50:14 AM

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There was a well known performer that dated a top Vivid girl and by her own testimony she was regularly beaten by him. It eventually came to her crashing her car into him in self defense, he survived but was gone from the industry.

Ok I'll mention one name because it was so public and that's Christy Mack and her former MMA/sometime porn guy boyfriend War Machine. He's got a life sentence for attempted murder and she left the industry after that final attack and months of abuse.

There are a number of these.

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Here they are per IAFD:

Babysitter 7
Big Tits In Uniform 11
Dirty Talk 2
Family Affairs
Manuel DPs Them All 3
Manuel Is A MILFomaniac
Meter Maiden
MILF Mania
MILFs Illustrated 1
Mommy Got Boobs 16
Mother In-law Special
Oil Overload 7
Raw 13
Raw 29
Raw 9
Rump Raiders 4
Slutty and Sluttier 17
Squirt Gasms 3

Edited by - seijuro on 6/13/2020 1:35:31 PM

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Edited by - seijuro on 6/13/2020 1:59:57 PM

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