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lucifuge1973
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Posted - Dec 28 2016 : 11:14AM
IF SHE IS ON THE SOL FOR LIFE IT BE HARD TO GET STUDIO WORK ......UNWANTED ATTENTION
me and a friend talked over the phone for hrs i wrote half a blog and posted below i knew 0f her DG charge before this
Edited by - lucifuge1973 on 12/28/2016 11:52:48 AM
lucifuge1973
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Posted - Dec 28 2016 : 11:17AM
I HIGHLY DOUBT WE SEE HER AGAIN
fanofman
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Posted - Dec 28 2016 : 11:27AM
The porn community was hiring with charges pending. She'll be back in porn. She needs to make money. Who else will hire her being in porn AND her conviction? You got two strikes there.
Maxxx Stirner
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Posted - Dec 28 2016 : 11:38AM
Tripper :
Bear in mind there is a distinction between defending the act as such and arguing against having punitive law based punishments for what should be non legal social mores. While it's fine to have some issues here this was not coercion, manipulation maybe, but not coercion.
4theheart:
You're using an extreme age gap and pregnancy scenario that doesn't apply here. Even so this should not be something defind by laws and punishment. Mores and social norms should suffice for enforcing dos donts.
 
lucifuge1973
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Posted - Dec 28 2016 : 11:42AM
The porn community was hiring with charges pending. She'll be back in porn. She needs to make money. Who else will hire her being in porn AND her conviction? You got two strikes there.
IT IS CONDITION OF NO JAIL TIME SHE COMING BACK AT 31 MAN
SHE WENT UNDER THE RADAR TILL ALMOST XMAS LAST YR BUT MORE & MORE FOUND OUT
SO BY APR-MAY SHE HAD NO WORK 1-2 SHOOTS SO SHE BAILED
IF SHE SOMEHOW AVOID THE LAW .ITS TO HEATY, PEOPLE KNOW,NOW SHE LIED AS WELL
lucifuge1973
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Posted - Dec 28 2016 : 11:45AM
ITS NOT JUST ALLEGED NOW..BIG DIFF.CANT FOOL em again hun
lucifuge1973
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Posted - Dec 28 2016 : 11:49AM
MOD: Duplicate comment removed.
Edited by - Mister Fahrenheit on 12/28/2016 11:54:15 AM
lucifuge1973
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Posted - Dec 28 2016 : 11:58AM
only way she slide under radar is cuz the guys didnt bash so the ARL didnt get a hardon for the story..so no one covered it. except dumb cunt foster she never posted her story till april..when marsha leave ??? she had sences but booked no more,
lucifuge1973
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Posted - Dec 28 2016 : 12:06PM
mikey south needed traffic bad he needed loot bad even HE was smart enough to not cover it. that shit bring it all down.And everyone scrapping out weindicks yes to 60 too.whole industry didnt know the bullet they dodged but a few ..thats why it was so quiet and why it wasnt EVERYWHERE it had a publications ban till dec 19 or 20 thats when googled it shit came up. google it now ALL the shit from 2014 is suddenly back .it got pulled then soon as formally was sentenced all got released to the public again and like i said thats why she flew under the radar but soon as cface foster covered people seen the truth and it wasnt as alleged anymore there was documentation ..she was fd so she started saying she needed surgery or retiring ...yaya she new still trying to cover her pedo ass..bye bye quimy...12 yr old come the fuck on lolol
Edited by - lucifuge1973 on 12/28/2016 12:14:17 PM
Edited by - lucifuge1973 on 12/28/2016 12:20:06 PM
lucifuge1973
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Posted - Dec 28 2016 : 12:28PM
more people finding matching time lines the madder they getting.she dubed alot of peep and played the newspaper angle .huh ? what? no its not me look it up..if a raped a girl how can there be no news...who knew about publication ban ? people involved in the the case .....
tripper
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Posted - Dec 28 2016 : 1:58PM
MOD: Duplicate comments removed.
Edited by - Mister Fahrenheit on 12/28/2016 2:16:01 PM
fanofman
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Posted - Dec 28 2016 : 2:11PM
I don't believe she duped anyone in porn. She got into a number of Twitter wars with several porn girls and one porn guy earlier this year. They let all of their followers know about her charges. I'm sure porn producers also Google girls who show up on their set as well as verify their STD results. If they (talent and producers) don't Google who you they are performing with and/or hiring, then shame on them. They knew. They hired her anyway presumably because she was popular with fans and/or hadn't been convicted or plead out a deal. Also, unless her probation prohibits her from participating in adult films she will be back in porn soon.
shalalin
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Posted - Dec 28 2016 : 4:25PM
Yeah, sure, somebody made Google hide the old search results and managed to suppress the new information, all for the benefit of the fuckin' porn industry.
Edited by - shalalin on 12/28/2016 4:27:59 PM
lucifuge1973
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Posted - Dec 28 2016 : 5:52PM
yes its called a publication ban and no its called victims rights and right to a fair trial and i NEVER SAID they DID for the industry . i said it just happened that way and inversely effected its availability .i said the industry dont know how lucky they were.now how that me saying google did it for us . l dont mind discussing things but gonna use what i say just get what i say right.if that what i said you have a great point but its not what i said.
check the forums . lotsa people r showing frustration cuz they cat find info on the 2014 then its everywhere .and if u think google "dont have the power" bud. then youve got some surprises ahead .google has been toying with algorithms an have been caught numerous times manipulating search results. just clintob/trump is a great example. have a good eve
Edited by - lucifuge1973 on 12/28/2016 5:54:41 PM
 
lucifuge1973
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Posted - Dec 28 2016 : 5:57PM
heres some great info on Google and the industry
http://yourmoralleader.blogspot.ca/
take a min its luke ford at old self
i think ull be surprised what google pulls off or tries .
Edited by - lucifuge1973 on 12/28/2016 5:59:24 PM
Fknzz
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Posted - Dec 28 2016 : 6:12PM
Why are you posting an insane amount of message for this case ? ur personally concerned ?
lucifuge1973
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Posted - Dec 28 2016 : 6:13PM
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lucifuge1973
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Posted - Dec 28 2016 : 6:41PM
its something related to a few other projects ive attached myself .i was on her side from her 1st arrest 4 domestic violence. i have issues with the treatment of SW .the abuse they suffer while in the biz snd the bix as a whole and the publics view of workers i think we all agree shit aint right.i spend alot time on tw and have a hash dedicated to exposing stalkers and abusers online.and ive around the industry for 25 yrs do maybe i should try and help some people .i myself wss abused by my male sittr when i was 8-12 and recently came out to my family and 2 put it blunt it was fd up and that was just a couple years ago so i can relate to alot of SWs on both sides..i also was very verbally abusive to women and was an aweful. i never knrw why i was so angry till i dealt
with my own shit and yes u dig 20 hours and spend 2 days straight reading testimony ftom one witness it does get personal . i try to stay impartial as long as possible .i judge no one and i do my research and have people i talk 2 in the biz and they do their best to help me not makee to much a fool of myself .well much more hah
I POSTED THE facts i had .people make comments i replay get what i need to see where i got the ibfo. if im going to do it i might well try to have doc/res to back what i say snd that might be 4 screenshots and takr 5 post w/original reply .i wanna be throughout as poss and leave as little doubt as possible and dont wanna sling muck .id like to have civil covos and thro in a good gloryhole story i was in last week .i just wanna be loved man .bahahahaha

after this thread today im off to create my discussions and u guys can all ur misinformation and butt hurt spats back
hahahaha jking butt hurt peeps r awesome.id just like to have a spot and talk and not squalling about unrelated shit
Edited by - lucifuge1973 on 12/28/2016 7:05:58 PM

lucifuge1973
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Posted - Dec 28 2016 : 6:52PM

Edited by - lucifuge1973 on 12/28/2016 7:07:20 PM
lucifuge1973
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Posted - Dec 28 2016 : 7:00PM

Edited by - lucifuge1973 on 12/28/2016 7:06:34 PM
lucifuge1973
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Posted - Dec 28 2016 : 7:21PM
and really bad at forgetting to do shit and i double post and mouse batt r dead so im posting super and like respond promptly and before im done and go back and ill see 2 double and a triples post.sometimes my mouse will click 5 times. sp i just gotta get some little shit and ill be ok. i blog and have threads z freeonrs ill have galleries threads @ motherless
lucifuge1973
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Posted - Dec 28 2016 : 7:31PM
heres a bogger in 2015 mad he was unable to ffind any coverage. note the dates .he got this monica foster blogged .just note comments and dates ull see it was hard 2 find
https://texags.com/forums/12/topics/2689636
lucifuge1973
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Posted - Dec 28 2016 : 7:41PM
just want apologize for making such a m3ss but theres at least some new material and again SOORY BOUT th2 mess
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lucifuge1973
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Posted - Dec 28 2016 : 10:07PM

Edited by - lucifuge1973 on 12/28/2016 10:10:47 PM
 
shalalin
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Posted - Dec 28 2016 : 11:08PM
Err, what? No comments in that thread are saying anything like what you're claiming. Wrong link?
4theheart
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Posted - Dec 29 2016 : 10:31AM
@ Maxxx Stirner It's a reductio ad absurdum argument meant to test the general argument which you used in support of this case. In any case, many laws find their origin in social norms and customs.

Edited by - 4theheart on 12/29/2016 10:33:37 AM

tripper
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Posted - Dec 29 2016 : 3:13PM
^ Agree. I personally don't see laws protecting twelve year olds from alcohol, drugs, and sex by boys and girls six and seven years older as being set by a social norm. I believe these laws are in place to protect children from predators, and Marsha and her friends behaved like predators that night. And they recorded it, they are lucky they did not get charged with producing child pornography. Max, I hope you don't think child pornography is a victemless crime.
D33n
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Posted - Dec 29 2016 : 3:33PM
She was really hot and had a lot of potential, but I don't think I'll ever watch any of her work if he will come back at some point. Normally I wouldn't care about what these girls do outside of porn, but what she did was too much for me to pretend like it didn't happen.
Maxxx Stirner
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Posted - Dec 30 2016 : 12:58AM
4theheart:
I could simply counter that age spread with an 18 year old and a 72 year old. The difference would be the arbitrary legality which does not account for the fact that there are some under 18s that are more developmentally mature then some over 18s. I can understand the underlying principle in controlling against certain asymmetries of age, but I argue you do not need punitive legal arena to do so. Yes laws find their origin in social norms and customs, what I'm arguing is that they should stay as norms and customs without the force of law. If you are going to have laws they should really only concern corporeal victim hood and nothing in abstract statute. There should be no such thing as a statutory victim.
@tripper
That depends, are tweens who take/make nude pics/vids of their own volition and later risk being reported and carted off to the police station 'victims' or criminals for that matter? Our absurd laws currently say yes as technically they are producing 'child porn'. For me it comes down to whether there was mental or physical coercion or not or whether someone is of sound mind to consent to being depicted in sexual media(ie babies and actual children). Bear in mind that our definitions for 'child' porn are quite absurd and can encompass human beings that are not biologically children in the least.
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Posted - Dec 30 2016 : 2:05AM
But a 12 year old is a child. I hope no one lets you near their kids with your 'libertarian' ideas.
Maxxx Stirner
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Posted - Dec 30 2016 : 2:25PM
^That depends on you definitions and terms. I go with pubescence and the associated mental maturity as a marker of whether a given human is a child or not. Your term is the more socially acceptable definition that is not historically in line with other cultures past. A 12 year old in the old days would be pretty near his/her rite of passage period. I'm not saying that anything goes when it comes to pubescent minors, but I can think of very few reasons to have law enforcement outside of coercive or involuntary acts.
BlackSix All-Star Supporter
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pornography wasn't sex but fantasies of an impossibly hospitable world
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Posted - Dec 30 2016 : 2:29PM
Whatever dude. Torture, slavery and raping one's wife use to be be historically acceptable. Do you also advocate those things because you're a 'libertarian' who can see beyond social norms? You're super creepy and shouldn't be allowed near children.
Does your parole officer know you're posting here?

Edited by - BlackSix on 12/30/2016 3:21:04 PM

yourmomma
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Posted - Dec 30 2016 : 2:46PM
why you got james deen as your avatar!!!
anyway, yeah. I did watch a few of her scenes before I learned of these charges, even though I'm not a fan of fake breasts.
afterwards... I was done. I was actually surprised she was still shooting...
D33n
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Posted - Dec 30 2016 : 3:09PM
BECAUSE I CAN!!! Hah!
 
Rosco Fuji
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Her ass needs to be in jail now. And, can Lucifuge1973 be given a timeout until they learn how to type complete sentences and not random letters and numbers in the place of worlds?
Maxxx Stirner
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Posted - Dec 30 2016 : 10:44PM
@BlackSix
I'm a nihilist when it comes to history BS. I only pass preferential judgement not moral/ethical judgement. Not everything in the past was bad, not every change today good.
Dutchgangbangboys
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Posted - Dec 31 2016 : 6:06AM
^I agree. If the present allows for people like you to defend sexual assault on children then the present has a lot to work on if I would like the future it will turn into.
vrakenbaq
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Posted - Dec 31 2016 : 8:20PM
New post in her twitter
lucifuge1973
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Posted - Jan 7 2017 : 4:39PM
sorry i was busy ranting again lol
heres monica "lubben" oops fosters post 2 yrs after the fact April 29th 2016 (2nd post)
http://www.pornnewstoday.com/pnt/category/criminals/
around the same time i heard / read comments about BB/MM surgery or time off . coincidence maybe .ill check my info
and a couple arrest docs .
https://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-54798.html

mugshot
http://miamiarrests.com/BIANCA_BYNDLOSS_140122057/
and tweets hoping her arrests don't hinder her career ! Wow
http://www.9news.com.au/world/2014/06/25/07/09/woman-hopes-child-sex-doesn-t-hurt-porn-career
ill be back with time line comment follow up.
lucifuge1973
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Posted - Jan 7 2017 : 6:08PM
Jan 9th 2016 quote
She's had a couple of threads on here. Not all of them ended well. But I agree she's a fantastic performer.
Quote March 7th
So what's going on with this girl? I guess she's doing okay in the porn world, but she's not taken off the way I expected she would last year. Me: wonder why
she did make it avns maybe then peeps noticed idk cuz it got pretty neg soon after the pics
heres to the taking a break posts i thought i seen
posted April 30Th 2016 (day after the post at porn news today outing her )
Heads up, on periscope she said she's thinking of a taking a break. Upon something I saw on twitter though it seems as though she may forced into taking a break due to other um....."commitments"(can't think of a better word rn).
and then like a damn "shit went broke" lol
please check out some posts around that time

mod included "no real names"
then she tweets about taking time off go back to school and taking gymnastics
sigh just wow just wow then im off to rant k bud i hope that helped . sorry i tend to go on ..lol take care
ill post a full rant/post so Be warned more rhetoric to come lol
lucifuge1973
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Posted - Jan 7 2017 : 6:34PM
Until they ? Its just me bud
Numbers in place of worlds ? Oh words sorry my bad
Yes sorry, I've taken my timeout and in my defense I tweet a lot and it definitely reflects in my typing. Thanks for the enlightenment and hopefully my tweet habits wont interfere with my worlding lol. All joking aside take care man.
lucifuge1973
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Posted - Jan 9 2017 : 9:37PM
Marsha may 3 : The final chapter

Look if ya didn't link my other posts ur gonna hate this one so be happy and skip . If ya like "train wreck commentators" by all means hop on ...lol
you've been warned . no bitching ...just skip to bottom if ya want i wrote this be Senior Avn personnel told me of her decision

This is not not a funny subject but i do try and keep it from falling completely into satan's pit where this fn sick depressing belongs . CHILD ABUSE IS THE LOWEST OF THE LOW . AND THESE CHILDREN ARE VICTIMS . PLEASE IF IT EVER SEEMS I IN ANY WAY MAKE JEST IT IS NOT TO TAKE AWAY FROM ANY VICTIM OF ABUSE . I too was a victim and it destroys more then most see and pray will never know . Please know, i speak this from my soul/ gut/ heart/ gray matter or wherever it can be heard loudest , I WOULD NOT WISH MY ABUSE OR LIFE THEREAFTER ON ANYONE ! IF YOU TAKE THE TIME TO READ THX .It'll be my last rant on this matter (you're welcome)

It just odd this is released and "around" the same time another post was mentioning surgery or some time off .And some threads have been moved around (public ban ,public outcry, i guess one could ask admin, i know that this thread 1st post was Apr 28 2015 and a previous MM thread started Dec 7 2014 and its last March 23rd 2015 so March the one with all posts about her arrest stops and April a fresh thread one starts. I'm saying ,for whatever reason time lines just make sense and I've "speculated" some reasons I think that is and posts do get deleted for using her real name (until her actual verdict you'd think but I'm a noob) This forum as and any respected "porn" outlet respects talents given names so it WAS hard to find factual details and i do admit fault..
( dead truth guys/gals...I am a porn fan and have huge respect for porn stars in general and the more i looked the less respect she seemed to have lack there of)
I often speak to quickly and don't read over posts before i hit enter/send/reply etc and should especially for content ( grammar is far too over rated and when I'm editor for the N.Y. Times I will worry about "stringing together full sentences" Twitter it seems has effected me grammatically . Who seen ,oops saw that coming see either one you get the point and sarcasm and laughing at my own foul balls all intact. ) ..Im far from perfect as so many point out and not without merit. One definite claim and ive skimmed through responses so i guess ill do my best clarify those f-ups in do time but i promise to go back on my time out asap i made to publications ban being the main reason Google didn't have much info is in fact just one possibility. Ive learned, (with much more reading to do yet ) public censorship by search engines is as to fault/blame/reason. (Ban , censor I'd think one in the same .nope. Its a huge legal debate with 1st amendment at the for front.) I may speak out of turn and way to often but when I do say something I DO TRY to have some weight behind it and yes passionate (more so obsessive to some) but if there's no passion in what you say ..Why speak up at all .idk cause thats just me Idk bout y'all but we talking about BB/MM & at least 1 other adult were charged with lewd contact x3 (sexual contact were the accused or 3rd party gratification is the goal... roughly ) with a chilld aged 12-16 .They pled down it was in interest of both parties .Court costs and the damage it would have on already damaged children . The youngest still only 14ish at sentencing .Putting them on trial as well as well as the accused is nightmare legally , morally and any word that ends with ally you can think of ) Non-contested "sworn" victim statement of the youngest is the most troubling to me she stated "Byndloss and a male had sex in a bathroom with the 12-year-old victim " apparently its thee only act they didn't record i guess a video of a full on 3-way with a 12 yr old is even taboo in BB/MM fuckbook but video with oral sex , finger in vag's and digital penetration (cell phones in vag's) with all 3 children was kool kool. At least 1 video copied 4 times on one cell ( you send a vid it copies to outbox-sent or other phone/social media settings i would imagine. Yes she did post on IG her with the oldest "with only a bikini TOP" so naked from waist down. How thoughtful of them not to show any side boob
(k STOP .I gotta stop and say as ur reading this ...can u blame me for being upset as i was as more unfolded . passionate .obsessed WTF EVER .this is some sick shit man. And those are fact yo !)
They found all the vids on 3 or 4 phones and having distributed any/all were originally with distribution of child porn so they all bottom line got "convicted " of varied forms of child abuse involving 12-16 yr olds with 3 adults (2 males and 1 female) sentenced to 10 yrs probation and another female given 5 yrs . All child sex offenders 4 life .i keep pointing out 12-16 yr olds because if it were U12 these fuckers would all be doing hard fn time . Not debating right or wrong legally ...again.. I'm just saying in some/all U.S courts the difference of being under/over 12 has huge (like 10-20 yrs prison time) ramifications . And to add another important fact all three were given same sentence (except the 4th girl who was obviously less involved ) so BB/MM did not get "a Pussypass" . 3 adults 3 same sentences. Agree with or not its "the law" Fuck i just meant to leave a small post ..Fuck me .My needs for over clarification IS an under statement .I sometimes forget why/where i started. Too much quaternary. Too many parentheses . Ya Ya ..Oh yeah where i started regardless of my shit grammar and obsession my point is , ummm shit , oh yeah THESE FUCKERS DID FD UP SHIT AND NOT ONLY JUST AM.L.O.R (think pink floyd peeps itll come to u) BUT THEY NEVER CLUED IN HOW FUCKED UP THIS TILL WAY AFTER THE FACT, IF THEY HAVE AT ALL . A Public admission, some awareness , idk anything besides letting it just blow away . She made some bad Fucking choices and i'm forgiving guy though . I might not forget (oh might as well toss J.D. in while i got sand in my vag thou very diff he shrugged off his shit and is back as strong as ever but people in the know ..know right ?) but some acknowledgement any kind of i was on meth/molested/kicked in skull rinse .repeat would be a start !! I watch/enjoy/comment/rant on FN PORN. I will try to forgive . Trust me say anything that i can read from you as to your mistakes and be of your own doing (non P.R jargon aside) But full blown acknowledgement to people is a door you can't shut and hoping enough new ( ironically ) 16 yrs then 18 yr old fappers now just are so happy she followed them,(lots of these) believe she was set up .Theres lots defending her or shes been rehabilitated .Wiithout acknowledgement and facing up how can one BE rehabilitated.
A few years she might well fooled some . Letters to agencies or producers with a comment about them promoting Child Abuse w/attached C.S.O.Registry would stunt her comeback . I myself am letting it all out and will move on except here (You are welcome). I mean what more can my fat yap say .Not judging sex workers takes actual " non Pc .thick skin " i have it. Acknowledge and I will listen. S.w.i.m. posted this ! yes me ! These opinions are mine (like arses) and if I got shit wrong or am harming anyone unintended plz lmk . I will remove immediately .I think in posting on these threads about an outed/idiot we still need to be reminded that these kids were All 12-14 man im sorry peds man thats TOO FD .My little one gonna be 10 ,we flick boggers and cup farts man .Sure in two years maybe not but she'll be 12 and it is too young to have to THINK about digital penetration let alone consent .Any objections to that ? Simply FUCK OFF . If M.May or B.Yanes touched my 12 yr old ? Its simple, no trial just body bags and me doing life. No regret.
If the three were 16-18 id actually listen to your "consent" arguments .I live outside U.S. and our consent laws differ alot .Consent was 14 raised to 16 in 2008 but with revised to include "close-in-age exception" which still basically means under 12 don't fn look , don't touch, or even think to argue consent don't matter ! End of blurry line .Its 12. But if Im 14-15 and shes 13 then it falls under said law and my opinion most 13 yr old girls 5 yrs ahead of boys that age and the reflects that . AND THATS CANADIAN Criminal Code .Your state laws and US laws need some unification but thats what makes America .Diversity .Proud history. The North And The South .You're history is history ( post 1500+ A.D.) to me anyway if you want links i haven't posted and claim too have just dm or post . I'm not an idiot well not completely, if its not there or available , must be a reason. Thx
SHE HAS RETIRED SHE WILL HAVE SCENES FOR UP TO A YEAR AND WILL SEEM NEW AND MAY OR MAY NOT STILL DO CAMS AND WILL PROBABLY BE AT AVNS AS IVE BEEN TOLD BUT IS ' Retired ' as well as I am retiring from this issue as well thx everyone for ur patience

Fknzz
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Posted - Jan 10 2017 : 3:03AM
Are u writing in alien or something ?
I don't have enough courage to read your posts and force my brain to replace every words you typed into a correct sentence.
SweetJD
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Posted - Jan 10 2017 : 12:30PM
^^ You would be more successful at getting your point across if you wrote coherently.
tripper
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Posted - Jan 10 2017 : 2:05PM
Just so people don't get the wrong idea about non-punitive libertarians, normally the argument supports consenting adults engaging in sex acts (i.e. sodomy that is illegal is some states), or drug use. I personally believe that all drugs should be legalized and regulated by the FDA to take the money out of the hands of organized crime. We proved prohibition in the 20's was a failed effort that only served to build the organized crime networks in our country. If someone wants to be doped up, I don't give a crap, as long as they are not out stealing or breaking other laws to support their habit.
I have never seen this argument applied to abuse of minors. And if you want to argue that consent based on age is arbitrary, would you prefer that lawyers, judges and doctors determine who is able to give consent? I think that would be a nightmare and to use a measurable age is preferred. In some states now, younger partners are protected by a three year age rule, if an 18 year old has sex with a 15 year old that consented, there is no law broken in those states.
In this case it was 12 to 14 year olds with 18 and 19 year olds. Clearly child abuse, statutory rape, and child porn.
Maxxx Stirner
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Posted - Jan 10 2017 : 6:37PM
The problem tripper is that the term abuse is quite spurious in these kind of cases. For me abuse has to involve force, coercion and mental/physical unreadiness none of which applies in this case.
You mentioned the age acception of 3 years. There's not a big difference between that and the 4-7 year gap we have in this case. What about the fact that some 12 and 14 year olds are more mentally and sexually ready then some 15 and 18 year olds. A fiat law completely affaces these facts.
To answer your question, yes I would rather lawyers look at these things on a case by case basis, not only would it not be a nightmare but there are liberal nations like The Netherlands that have looked at things on a case by case basis. Case by case at least is more congruent with reality.
tripper
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Posted - Jan 10 2017 : 7:07PM
Maxxx, I was hoping you would see this and reply, and thank you for your quick response. So, FYI, I am a hardcore Republican conservative that believes the Republicans should stop saying anything about sex and morality and concentrate on the core values of smaller government and fiscal responsibility. Having said that, I sound quite libertarian, don't I.
My main point for that post was so that other members would understand the main argument of non-punitive libertarians pertains to consenting adults, and not be thrown off by your, for lack of a better word, extreme application of the argument to minors. I notice you had no argument with my statement that the argument is normally used in cases of consenting adults.
So you say the age difference is not that different, according to the reports Marsha and the 19 year old man had sex with the 12 year old girl in the bathroom, supposedly the only unrecorded sex act. That is a difference of 6 and 7 years, way more than 3.
And we are not just talking about sex, giving hard drugs and alcohol to a 12 year old can only be considered abuse. Hell, if you feed that to a dog you can be arrested for animal cruelty.
I guess my main point to you is that your argument is better suited to a university classroom where immoral and impractical arguments are common. I truly don't care what The Netherlands does. There are 196 countries in the world and you are able to pick one that does this on a case by case basis. Oh, maybe you can come up with 10, so that would be essentially 5%. It's too impractical to implement and would add a lot more work to our already overburdened court system. And practicality does matter. You may choose to take a high road and say no effort for justice is too much, but when you're talking about scum like this bunch, it's just not worth it.
I want to conclude with your statement "For me abuse has to involve force, coercion and mental/physical unreadiness none of which applies in this case." What possible evidence do you have for this statement. All the court records are closed because the victims are juveniles. You weren't there, you have no evidence and it's a very fine line between manipulation and coercion.
They absolutely deserve their punishment and are lucky to have gotten off so easily. I only hope the victims are given more consideration than you have given the culprits.
A-ten
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Posted - Jan 11 2017 : 2:28AM
Stop trying to justify sex with a 12 year old. It just gives porn an even worse name when a pornstar does something like this.
Edited by - A-ten on 1/11/2017 2:28:42 AM
pat362
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Posted - Jan 11 2017 : 6:20PM
^I'll second your statement and hope this thread gets closed. I really don't think the back and forth between the few pro having sex with underage boys and girls is good for anybody.
BlackSix All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Jan 12 2017 : 1:17AM
By Maxx's argument I assume he also approves of sex with the mentally disabled. He also probably supports adults with HIV having sex with underage kids since he doesn't believe that HIV exists either.

Edited by - BlackSix on 1/12/2017 1:18:29 AM
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