As an IR fan there's only a certain amount of websites one can rely on for regular scenes per week. Dogfart, JoshStone, Industry Invaders, Blacked and of course Monsters of Cock come to mind. But today i was absolutely perplexed at the latest scene monsters of cock scene came up with HERE . It features Piper Perri with the title "two Vipers vs Piper". Now before i even played the trailer i could see something was a little different because there appeared to be a black guy getting head while a white dude was getting busy with Piper in the still picture...so i thought "oh, this is something new"!!. So then i watched the trailer and the longer it went on the more i couldn't comprehend it. This is meant to be an INTERRACIAL website but the whole trailer shows "jmac" aka the white dude just pumping away while Charlie Mac is getting a little head. So needless to say my suspicions were raised but i still decided to give it the benefit of the doubt until i had time to watch the full scene. I just did and LOL monsters of cock should be f#cking embarrassed to put that sh/t out there. They had Charlie Mac, an experienced and respected pro for years, look like a damn cuckold during the whole scene while Jmac was banging Piper every which way. It got so bad that Charlie disappears from the scene towards the end and isn't involved in the pop shot. My view is Monsters of cock tried to punk IR fans there. If it's a real interracial threesome scene then let it be that. But that sh/t was just a black man made to look like the third wheel in a vanilla scene..it was shambolic and i feel for Charlie as he was made to look silly in the scene. Hopefully MOC won't pull another stunt like that again otherwise they WILL lose members that way.
I am just as disappointed as you, but sometimes that's the way the cookie crumbles unfortunately. 5 minutes before the start of the scene, she decided she didn't want to do interracial that day. We had a powerful scene planned with both studs essentially skewering her. With how its trending in the members area, you are definitely not the only person disappointed.
We need better girls for Monsters of Cock scenes. Take more trips to Colombia and some trips to Brazil, Eastern Europe and Canada. And get big booty sexy latina Spicy J to do a boy/girl scene. Girls we want to see in the future Rahyndee James Abby Lee Brazil - ladirectmodels.com Alexis Rodrigues aka Alyssa Gadson aka Ms.Rican Alexis Malone - ladirectmodels.com Dava Foxx - 101modeling.com Norah Nova - 101modeling.com Charlotte Stokely = ocmodeling.com Lolly Ink - ocmodeling.com Cali Marie - ladirectmodels.com Destiny Dixon - atmla.com Holly Heart - atmla.com Dylan Phoenix - nexxxtleveltalentagency.com Mercedes Carrera - atmla.com Edited by - turwin01 on 5/20/2015 2:07:38 PM
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Posted - May 20 2015 : 2:23PM
Thanks for your honesty sir. But WOW!!..is this what porn is really coming down to now? If she didn't want to work with a black man that day why bother shooting her for that project? Is SHE more important than the brand itself? I also find it quite ironic that she's shot with guys like Jmac and Juan Largo more than once but clearly Charlie Mac wasn't afforded the same opportunity. I'd also ask why Jmac was even involved in the first place seeing as the site is meant to be an IR site? This certainly is a red flag for MOC to ponder because like i said you will lose members/fans pulling stunts like that. In closing would you mind us creating a MOC thread in the news section so we could give you guys a few requests and feedback on the scenes etc? Blacked and Dogfart have similar threads with a member of their staff interacting with us so it would be nice to add Moc.
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Posted - May 20 2015 : 2:38PM
I definitely share your frustration, but according to Jordan Piper changed her mind at the last minute. I assume Bangbros would have lost money and everyone's time would have been wasted if they hadn't just gone ahead and shot what they could. Ultimately, the fault lies with Piper Perri. Bangbros was only trying to salvage the situation. Edited by - misspornUSA on 5/20/2015 2:40:51 PM
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Posted - May 20 2015 : 2:43PM
Companies should ALWAYS have another option on standby. What if the girl is a no show? Then what? I remember watching Julie Cash's scene with Jovan Jordan for Vouyer Media and the director talked about how another girl was meant to be shooting the scene but she was a no show so they rang Julie and she was there in a flash. In the end they had an epic IR scene in the bag. For Moc to give us a vanilla scene like that was an insult to our intelligence imo.
I'm thinking because she did it last minute that bangbros might not doing scenes with her anymore
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Posted - May 20 2015 : 2:48PM
Yeah i'm gonna let other directors know about this mess because it's so unprofessional and damn right crass imo. "oh i don't want to work with the black guy today but the white guy is fine" SMH!!..I hope my fellow IR fans remember this incident.
I'd like to know the production date of all the scenes she did with them , Piper , who BTW is VERY petite , did a scene with Jmac , a scene with Charlie and a scene with both but I don't know the filming order of them As it appears from the trailer Jmac and Charlie are roughly the same size and girth , Charlie's dick bends to the left a little , so if she changed her mind and shot with Charlie after this , or she already shot with Charlie but felt uncomfortable (I don't know first hand but I heard that bending dicks may hurt , aren't for everybody to take) or felt that two dicks of such a size together were too much for her tiny body, or she just wasn't too well that day.We don't know why she changed her mind and why the director agreed , I mean they could have shot only Jmac and Piper and nobody would complain , instead he chose to give Charley his payday and put him in the scene regardless. I wonder why She's also a newbie , I think a little tolerance should be considered. After all she's providing some very unusual stuff , seemingly very rough too, so..., anyway I don't think that Charlie's skin was the reason, she worked with him in the scene and in another one which was a lot more passionate than this one BTW Monster of cock is sold as an IR site , if the IR isn't there well, they should have updated such scene on another site of their network or possibly used a better sequence for the scene they shot.
FYI Piper shot the following scenes for Bang Bros. I have listed the date the shoot took place according to the 2257 compliance statement of her scenes that I can view on the Bang Bros website: Bang Bros Clips with JMac - February 5, 2015 Monsters of Cock with Charlie Mac - February 24, 2015 Monsters of Cock with Charlie Mac and JMac (the scene in question) - February 25, 2015 Thus, Piper had a successful scene with Charlie the day before but then sounds like she didn't want to work with him the following day.
Jordan said "she decided she didn't want to shoot INTERRACIAL five minutes before the shoot". So if we're going by what he said then it wasn't just Charlie she wasn't prepared to work with that day. Also as you say Jmac and Charlie aren't exactly worlds apart in the trouser department so i struggle to see how "size" could have been the issue. In this scene Jmac didn't hold back and like i mentioned before she's worked with Juan Largo twice and that man was humping away on her like Erik Everhard LOL. This really is an eye opener and I'm glad MOC decided to be honest about it and not try to downplay her actions. They were very silly to release this scene though because it clearly isn't an IR scene in any shape or form. If a chick decides to act up like that then just replace her...it's simple really.
I think she did the 5 minutes thing so that she didn't lose out on the scene because she could of told them right after her scene that day before with Charlie Mac
It also seems like JMac didn't hold back in this scene and went harder in this scene then he usually does lol Edited by - tom99955 on 5/20/2015 3:41:04 PM
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Posted - May 20 2015 : 3:42PM
Exactly!!..the whole thing just sounds extremely bizarre.
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Posted - May 20 2015 : 3:45PM
I agree, they should hired another girl who does IR, it an waste of money on the directors and company.
1) It's not that easy, girls have to be tested, gone through compliance, wardrobe, hair/makeup. Their is a lot more planning than having two people just show up and fuck. 2) Charlie has a monster dong, its actually hard to find girls to film with him, even girls who love interracial and big dicks. Piper is a trooper and did shoot with him the day before. Maybe she was sore, maybe she changed her mind, maybe she had a headache, who knows. At the end of the day its the girls decision to do what they are comfortable doing. As everyone in the biz will tell you, Charlie mac is a true gentleman and I know piper really liked him off set, so I am sure it just came down to possible soreness from the day before. Oh in other news, I don't remember who requested it on ADT, but we just finished shooting Jovan Jordan with Alex Little, Hell of a size contrast and I hear the scene is nuts.
Just as I thought if you take a look on the production dates of the scenes you will find out that this scene was filmed on February 24 and her other monster of cock scene (a passionate scene filmed on a bed with Charlie starring in it) was film the day after February 25. The messed up the issues perhaps they put a scene that wasn't supposed to be IR or she wasn't told about it or her agent didn't inform her or her agent told her a first IR scene was to be paid more and BB tried to exploit her newbie naivety without telling, we don't know what really happened , what we know is she shot with Charlie the day after. Question are did she know it was an IR scene? did she know it was a threesome? Did she agree to it as an IR scene in advance? Did her agent know it was an IR and a first IR at that? How difficult was to convince her to shoot with Charlie the day after' Was the second day scene already scheduled ?w as it scheduled as an IR and agreed with?
and Also while i am here and I have all you super IR fans. Which out of these guys are your favorite? Rob Piper Moe Johnson Jovan Jordan Isiah Maxwell Prince Yashua Jack Napier Rico Strong Jon Jon Johnny Depth Charlie Mac
^ I like chemistry , so I'd like to see the one the girls prefer among themActually I pointed out they were the same size ,but different shape Edited by - LCF on 5/20/2015 3:56:14 PM
It may appear that way on camera, but in person they are no where near the same size, not even same ballpark. Another example was Castro Supreme, that thing was 2x as big in person, it still looked big on camera but it never translated correctly. Edited by - jordanb on 5/20/2015 3:56:46 PM
in other words there was a difference to be taken into account then. Is it possible she was afraid to take them both in the same scene? She worked with Charle very soon after all
Don't know, but next time she's in our production facility. I will get an ADT exclusive interview from her explaining what went down ;)
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Posted - May 20 2015 : 4:05PM
If she was "sore" then why work with Jmac then? Remember this was meant to be an INTERRACIAL shoot so wouldn't logic suggest that if one of the male talent's had to play the "third wheel" it should have been Jmac? Her behaviour seems very crass to me. If She couldn't handle Charlie then let you guys know as soon as she gets to the set..but she appears to have just made the decision on a whim. As for Jovan and Alex Little...good to hear but she already shot with him for Lethal Hardcore.
^^ that would be appreciated but I'd strongly suggest you to pass through Captain Jack for the interview, you already got a clue from this thread, a wrong word, a misunderstanding and she may get some troubles and those here aren't even among the IR watchdogs ^ not everything involving a black man is necessarily due to his skin , if it was Danny D instead of Charlie would you say the same?
Edited by - LCF on 5/20/2015 4:10:28 PM
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Posted - May 20 2015 : 4:12PM
Jordan may i ask why yall stopped shooting Kevin Stallion? He had a contract with Bangbros and was putting out some quality scenes. Guys like him represent the new generation of black male talent in the game but for some reasons yall ain't booking him anymore...imo he'd be a good addition to the MOC roster. I'd also recommend "CASH" from the "brotha lovers" website. Imo the genre will never flourish like it should when the same old faces are seen in every scene. And out of those guys if i was on the production I'd be inclined to shoot Jovan Jordan to be honest!!..with Jack, Isiah and Moe after that.
I don't watch Vanilla porn so that question isn't relevant to me. The fact is this was meant to be an IR scene but the female decided she didn't want to shoot IR that day and would rather work with the Caucasian actor instead. However you try to dress it up the whole thing looks fishy. Edited by - iwatchusmash on 5/20/2015 4:41:41 PM
Cast these guys John E Depth Moe Johnson Rico Strong Charlie Mac Sean Lawless - I know he is a white dude but he does a good job he deserves more scenes Do not cast these guys Jack Napier - can't keep his dick hard Jovan Jordan - he sucks Prince Yashua - annoying and over used Jon Jon - wack Oh and bring back Cuban Ramon and crackhead Paul. Edited by - turwin01 on 5/20/2015 4:33:04 PM
Fishy ? you act like you know everything whereas even Jordan here puts some maybe and told us to wait the interview to hear from her what happened exactly BTW if that was supposed to be an IR shoot what was the Caucasian actor doing there, as far as I recall Monster of Cock never played the "watcher" or"cuckold" scenario so why was Jmac there? Ar you really so sure it was supposed to be an IR scene? Because as you can see for yourself from the trailer she did shoot a Monster of Cock IR scene with Charlie on February 25, this one was shot on February 24 , according to Jordan it was the contrary but this doesn't change anything So two Monster of Cock scenes in two days? really? I can't remember any other performer doing this
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Posted - May 20 2015 : 4:36PM
I like all of them, but I'll go with (unranked): Rob Piper Prince Yashua Jack Napier Rico Strong Charlie Mac
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Posted - May 20 2015 : 4:53PM
We can only go by what someone who is intimately involved in the situation said. SHE DID NOT WANT TO SHOOT INTERRACIAL FIVE MINUTES BEFORE THE SHOOT. So with that in mind how comes Jman was ok but Charlie wasn't? That's what i find hard to fathom and thus it does seem fishy to me. It's not like this girl has a track record of performing in IR scenes..she done ONE and then when another opportunity arose she refused. Yet Juan Largo, a latino performer who is similar in size to Charlie, got to work with her twice no problems and the same was true with Jmac...I know you love to give the benefit of the doubt where IR is concerned but i'm not that way inclined in this instance. Sorry.
Is it advertised as an IR site ? The site is "Monsters of Cock" not "Monsters of Black Cock" I would be pissed if they had guys with little cocks. In Piper's scene the guy had a big cock so it met the criteria of the sites name.
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Posted - May 21 2015 : 1:15AM
LOL seriously? Er "wefuckblackgirls.com" on the dogfart network does't say "white cock" either but everyone and their mother knows that it's a white man/black woman site. So lets not make feeble excuses please.
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Posted - May 21 2015 : 2:57AM
This thread is much ado about nothing, if you ask me. The OP, IWatchUSmash, seems to be trying to cast aspersions about Piper Perri, nevermind the fact that she has actually already done a B/G scene with Charlie Mac for the site. Okay, I get it, Monsters of Cock is supposed to be a BBC-only site. Fine. But it's ridiculous to try to insinuate that the girl didn't wanna fuck this particular guy, for this particular scene, simply because of the color of his skin. IWatchUSmash has once again climbed up onto his soapbox.
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Posted - May 21 2015 : 4:22AM
Oh look!!..my usual detractor who clearly doesn't have a damn clue about what is being discussed comes along and talks more nonsense!!!..SURPRISE SURPRISE!!. 1. This thread was about MOC which is clearly stated in the title 2. A member of the Bangbros staff came in and said PERRI DIDN'T WANT TO DO IR FIVE MINUTES BEFORE THE SHOOT STARTED!!.. so i didn't make any judgements before someone confirmed her stance. Hopefully you can fathom that but i won't be holding my breath.
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Posted - May 21 2015 : 4:30AM
^ And apparently, you chose to ignore this bit of insight from the Bang Bros representative:
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Posted - May 21 2015 : 4:44AM
Oh no i didn't smarty pants!!..i merely asked if Charlie was "too big" then why was Jmac accetable? If you're "sore" then you're "sore" right? But nope!!..Jmac was allowed to hump away without a care the world..but you continue to make excuses for ignorance if you wish. I'll still express my opinion regardless.
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Posted - May 21 2015 : 5:09AM
^ I know you will, since you're a "self-appointed IR watchdog," as I like to describe you guys. That's why your profile picture is so appropriate-a guy with binoculars on the lookout for IR violators, those you deem have committed IR offenses. If you're not callin' out white girls for these IR offenses, you're callin' out black girls for refusing to work with "their own." (At least you gave it a rest with the complaint posts on the BLACKED thread.)
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Posted - May 21 2015 : 5:57AM
And how many "white girls" have i called out for any "offences"? Please enlighten me as clearly you take more interest in MY posts than your own.
What stance do you believe was confirmed? There is no mention that she declined the scene because it was IR, only that it was an IR scene that she didn't do for whatever reason. Are we to assume the girl suddenly turned racist in the course of 24 hours? I looked up her thread in the star-crossed forum. This girl looks like a frail 14 year old that probably weighs 75lbs soaking wet. I think it's more than reasonable to give her the benefit of the doubt here and accept that maybe just a day after shooting another scene with the same guy that maybe she was a little sore and wasn't up taking something quite that big.Considering how little you know about what happened, this sounds like the behavior of someone that is completely unhinged. Edited by - Jackie Treehorn on 5/21/2015 4:57:47 PM
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Posted - May 21 2015 : 6:41PM
SIGH!!..did you read this thread properly before posting? There's a member of the bangbros staff who said "she decided FIVE MINUTES BEFORE THE SHOOT that she did not want to do interracial". That was the reason behind why the scene turned into a farce. If she was "sore" then why not let the crew knew as soon as she arrives on set? And even if that's the case why work with Jmac then? Do yourself a favour and get fully informed about what you're talking about before making silly replies thank you.
Always amazing that "interracial" is still controversial in 2015 in the United States. I hope one day it will not be anything more than two (or more) hot performers having sex.
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Posted - May 21 2015 : 10:13PM
IR fans won't let it go, they won't agree with it. If you get rid of IR that means no more IR movies and black men in porn would be out of the industry. Edited by - Interracial4Life on 5/21/2015 10:14:39 PM
Top talent to film (rank in order) Isiah Rob Piper Jovan Moe Rico Then the rest
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Posted - May 21 2015 : 11:52PM
You really think black men would be out of the industry? If anything black men are very restricted right now. You don't see them on the erotica sites for example or spread out across the genre spectrum because they are used as banking career props by value inflated white women.
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