Since I need to record an interview, I decided to get a MP3 player. I've tenatively narrowed it down to the Sansa e280 and the iRiver Clix (4 GB). The Sansa only records in *.wav format. Any idea how many minutes per Gb I can expect? Anybody know what format the iRiver records in? I looked at the CNET review and it didn't say. Since I own most of the music I'd like to listen to, do I have to mess with any on-line verification to convert my CD's to MP3's and download? Any recommendations could change my mind too.
Well, I have the Sansa e260 and I like it. Trouble is, I never used the voice recording feature except for a couple of times out of curiosity. The files didn't seem large so I bet you could get a lot on there. The 280 is 6 gigs, yes? I'll look around and see if I can figure out how much recording time it has. As far as music goes, just rip a CD, plug in the USB cable, open the music folder and drag and drop (assuming your music is on CDs). You can get as fancy as you want but drag and drop is all you need to do. But you do have to make sure you tag the files properly (I use Media Monkey for that) or it's a mess and you won't be able to find anything. Edited by - randomprecision on 8/5/2007 9:11:13 AM
K. As far as I can tell, the max recording time with the original firmware is about 4 hours. BUT, the quality isn't that great (I didn't think it was when I tried it, anyway). There's an open source firmware called Rockbox you can put on there that allows all sorts of extra stuff. In the original firmware, you can't adjust the recording quality, for example. In Rockbox, you can. But it isn't perfected yet and is still kind of buggy. And that's if you even want to fool with it. People speak highly of iRiver players but I haven't tried one.
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Posted - Aug 5 2007 : 10:12AM
Check out the new model of the Creative Zen Stone. It is a bit expensive but I think it will do what you want. It is 2 gb and it records voice. And no need to change the batteries. It charges using a mini usb cable. Edited by - conquistador on 8/5/2007 10:32:14 AM
Oh. And if you're going to get any of them, you may as well figure on spending AT LEAST $20-50 more on some halfway decent headphones as the ones that come with them all suck. That is, unless you just don't care. You can hear sound through them. That's about all. Koss KSC 75 are pretty good on the cheaper end. They look goofy but people seem to like 'em for bang for the buck. Edited by - randomprecision on 8/5/2007 12:59:49 PM
You like the playback sound quality on the Sansa? It didn't get high ratings on that, but the iRiver did. The e280 is the 8 GB model. I figure if I'm going to get one, I may has well get a flash player with the largest capacity of the time.
The Sansa sound quality (for music) isn't bad at all (with good headphones). The iRiver probably is better (I haven't heard it.) Some people get irritated with the Sansa, I think, because you can sometimes hear some system noise between tracks as it loads the next song. I always use 256-320 MP3s. There might be bigger differences at lower bit rates. I don't have a lot of music so 4 gigs is plenty for me. Here is a forum for the e200 series. That forum also has boards for many other MP3 players.
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Posted - Aug 6 2007 : 3:17PM
RP:what sort of batteries does your Sansa take and how long do they last? The thing is that now that I use an mp3 player everyday I wish I had gotten one that would hold more songs. Edited by - conquistador on 8/6/2007 3:18:17 PM
CQ - Not really sure on the battery. All I know is that it's a Lithium Ion rechargeable. It gets about 15 hours of play time on a 3-4 hour charge. The good thing is you can replace it yourself if it takes a shit. I think Sandisk sells them for around $20. And yeah. If you have a lot of music and think you're gonna be using one a lot, a flash player really isn't such a great idea. Might as well spring for a HD player. I'm pretty happy with the Sansa for what I paid for it. Edited by - randomprecision on 8/6/2007 7:50:52 PM
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Posted - Aug 6 2007 : 10:23PM
In a pinch, I've used the Sound Recorder program that comes with Windows to do some dictation. It records in .wav format. All I can tell you is that the files get pretty huge pretty quickly -- roughly five MB per minute
It turns out that 4 gb of *.wav file (maximum size) is 6.6 hours for CD quality sound - fine for my purpose. What headphones would you recommend that are better than the Koss?
@Croy - For headphones....I really wouldn't recommend anything much more expensive than those for the simple fact that to get anything significantly better, you'd have to spend a whole lot more money than the $20 or so the Koss ones cost. The next step up would be something like Grado SR60. The fact that the Koss ones are clip ons is annoying, though. I think Radio shack has some with a headband that have basically the same drivers. I think there are some decent "plug" type headphones for around $40 but I'm not familiar enough with that kind of headphone to give any advice. I had a set of Shure e2cs for about a week and found they really exacerbated my tinitus like crazy so I returned them (too expensive to let them sit around and collect dust). And that was with very moderate volumes so I wouldn't recommend those kinds of headphones to anyone concerned with their hearing. Lots of people recommend these They can be had cheaper than what they're listed for on that web site but I'm not sure where. But they're small, sound good and very portable.
I hope they are portable - it would defeat the purpose otherwise. I think in a few years, unless people go with huge lossless files, that it will all be flash. Look how fast the size of flash drives is doubling - it took less than 2 years to go from 4GB to 8GB. Next is DVD-Rom size and beyond. So in maybe 3 years the 30GB hard drive models will be obsoleted for smaller and more durable flash models. As far as the price of flash drives goes, the price progressions of the newest largest size seems to be absolutely the same - same price as the previous when first released, same drops. Taking inflation into account, that means an overall price drop. Do other hard drive based MP3 players have the same crashing problems plagueing the iPod?