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brock
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3 Posts
9/04
Posted - Sep 6 2004 : 7:43PM
I'd like some help.

My wife has expressed an interest in watching an adult film with me, but she definitely wants more of a 'couples' type of film. No forced or hard banging sex, but more of a sensual and erotic vibe. It shouldn't be too soft-core, though - she wants explicit stuff, but with passionate and erotic sex.

Most if not all of the films I've seen lately are definitely more of the hard-banging variety. In fact, it seems as though that's the norm lately with most films; lots of passionless hardcore screwing, some gagging, and violent sex in general.

Can you recommend any titles that would be more sensuous, passionate and erotic?

Much appreciated.

Topic Moved by - hardware on Sep 6 2004

brock
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3 Posts
9/04
Posted - Sep 6 2004 : 7:46PM
Sorry, just saw the other post on couples videos. Other suggestions welcome.
Saki
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Posted - Sep 6 2004 : 8:06PM
professorwolf
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The Fringe, USA
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Posted - Sep 6 2004 : 8:55PM
sdc
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236 Posts
4/03
Posted - Sep 7 2004 : 5:46AM
Yep, that's a very good suggestion. In fact, there are any number of Paul Thomas movies that would fit the bill: Jekyll and Hyde , Bad Wives , The Awakening or The Masseuse , which I've reviewed on this site, would all be good choices. Wicked's Falling From Grace , would also be a good introduction in to the world of adult. If you want to go back a bit further, The Opening Of Misty Beethoven and Chameleons are both classic movies and ideal for couples.

SDC

 
oatmeal
Meat Popsicle

Seeking Beauty
1738 Posts
8/04
Posted - Sep 7 2004 : 9:48AM
Good Luck, You'll find couples movies either:
-slow moving and/or boring 'music videos' (like Ninn stuff)
-bizarre and/or uncompelling (Satyr, Vivid)
-too hardcore for most women (Private, Anabolic, Diabolic, Redlight, PXP, or any other Gonzo studio). This is what the majority of films are and what most forum members are experts in.

Before you pick anything up I'd suggest you have a good conversation with your wife. Some couples don't talk about sexual fantasies, turn-ons (kissing), turn-offs (facials) or what they want out of a porn movie (hardon and wet pussy vs foreplay).

If you set the proper mood for your talk the intimacy and nervous sexual energy will be more exciting and liberating than watching a movie. You both will have to fight through your own personal shyness and embarrassment, we did. (he said "I like anal fisting movies and cum shot compilations" she said "ohhh...")

The porn world caters to men but if she has a common sexual fantasy maybe there's a movie out there for her? Based on her turn-ons maybe she'd be into a type of porn you didn't think she'd like (S&M, voyeurism, interracial, anal, bisexual, swinging, other fetish?)

Your wife may be different but mine is more into the story and needs attractive people that don't turn her off. She gets more turned on from watching kissing and oral than penetration. Perhaps find a good index of porn star pictures (anyone?) to show your wife so you can get a feeling for what she likes in both men and women.

Unfortunately I don't have a movie I'd suggest, I don't rent porn as much as I should. But from my limited experience there is lots of room for improvement in the quality acting and stories. I find softcore movies generally more compelling and erotic than regular porn, problem being it's softcore and the 'sex' scenes are utter crap.

The art of making a great erotic movie has turned into a black magic, simply filming a blowjob or reverse cowboy anal is not eroticism but pornography.

From what I've seen porn film makers fail to draw the viewer into the story, if they did they'd sell a lot more couples movies. Instead they focus more on the physical act.

Saki
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2087 Posts
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Posted - Sep 7 2004 : 10:45AM
Most of the movies already mentioned don't fall into those categories. They won't win any Academy Awards, but for explicit erotica, they manage to present a semblance of a story, a lesser emphasis on wall-to-wall sex, and no violence or disrespect.

- Saki

TonyC
Comstock Films

2523 Posts
8/03
Posted - Sep 7 2004 : 10:56AM
This is the single hardest thing to do, and that's why 97% of porn relies on the viewer's personal fetish for a certain act, hair color, body type, or overall shock value.

The other 3% seems to confuse fantasies about fancy cars and fancy houses with fantasies about sexual abandon.

If you happen on to a solid formula for "drawing the viewer into the story", please let me know!

-T.C.

Juster
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67 Posts
3/03
Posted - Sep 7 2004 : 1:06PM
That’s probably a valid point. For a story to draw the viewer in, it is generally accepted that the viewer needs to care about the character(s). How would a porn writer/director accomplish this without cutting back so much on the sex that a viewer more interested in explicit sexual content isn’t put off?

To answer my own question, I think Nic Andrews does about as good a job as possible with his Dark Angels. I haven’t seen any of his other stuff, so I can’t comment on it, but I think Dark Angels might be a good DVD recommendation in this case. Another suggestion might be to seek out titles that are heavy on humor. I think maybe the caring for a character thing develops faster if the character is funny as opposed to say, introspective. No DVD titles come to mind, but a couple of movie titles I wouldn’t hesitate to show a new female viewer would be Debbie Duz Dishes and Genital Hospital.

Only
Member

167 Posts
2/04
Posted - Sep 7 2004 : 1:27PM
Movie called Velvet Thrust, its made specifically for women.

I'd rather lick a hot skillet than watch that movie, but my girlfriend absolutely loves it.

oatmeal
Meat Popsicle

Seeking Beauty
1738 Posts
8/04
Posted - Sep 7 2004 : 3:03PM
My point exactly. It's very hard to do while getting some sex scenes in. There aren't many story lines that can work.

I think if the acting and chemistry were better that would go a long way. Another easy task for you to figure out

I do remember an old soft core series called Paris Nights (?) that I found pretty good. But that was a long time ago, I was a lot more naive back then.

Edited by - oatmeal on 9/7/2004 3:04:47 PM

oatmeal
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Seeking Beauty
1738 Posts
8/04
Posted - Sep 7 2004 : 3:53PM
Like rap video?
You don't have to draw the viewer in too deep, we don't want them crying after all. But we do need to give them a slower more meaningful build up. That requires quality scripts and acting skills. The industry as it is now doesn't put much importance on that so I suspect true talent is scarce.

What I'm looking for is nothing new. Companies are trying to do it, even in gonzo with the interviews, preamble and such. But there's always something missing. Whether it's chemistry, beauty, attitude, quality of acting, writing or directing there's always a few things that can be a lot better.

We should be watching instead of being shown... if that makes sense to you. As in "Today we're going to watch these people get it on" instead of "Hi, I'm Bobbie from Colorado and today I'm here to get my ass fucked"

They produced a fair amount of good porn in the 70s and 80s but it's pretty dated for looks, grooming, picture quality, etc. The stories and the attempt to tell them was better on average and there's something to be learned by going back and watching them.

I do think it would be easier and cheaper if the 'movie' was a series of vignettes instead of a full blown epic feature. Six 30 minute scenes, 10-15 minutes of build up, 15-20 minutes of sex.

That's my 5 cents (inflation you know)

dumblonde
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Posted - Sep 7 2004 : 6:41PM
I hate to sound like a broken record, but I also recommend Justine: Nothing To Hide 2

Unfortunately I loaned my copy to a friend over a year ago and he has yet to return it, but I really liked that film

mackie
Member

23 Posts
10/04
Posted - Oct 2 2004 : 2:30PM
Justine: nothing to hide 2 is my all-time favorite feature. Everyone recommending it is giving great advice. Definitely the way to go.
skronker
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9780 Posts
9/02
Posted - Oct 2 2004 : 2:39PM
BUttman titles with Rocco or Nacho go over BIG, I've found -- again and again, with women friends who don't usually watch porn but have a healthy enjoyment and curousity about it. Of course, my female friends are the type who are likely to throw a brunch and screen "Misty Beethoven" and then the actual director shows up, or drop by with a German fisting mpeg that just happens to be on their laptop . There's a reason, I guess, that I live in New York and not Butt Crack, Iowa.
 
vincevega
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131 Posts
11/02
Posted - Oct 2 2004 : 2:46PM
Check out Vivids Fade to Black

Edited by - vincevega on 10/2/2004 2:48:21 PM

TonyC
Comstock Films

2523 Posts
8/03
Posted - Oct 2 2004 : 3:01PM
Crying might be too much, but I think the edge of tears can be a good thing.

(Sometimes my pride gets the best of me.)

-T.C.

Kperv
The Cuddler

*struck
(She slipped)

1818 Posts
1/04
Posted - Oct 2 2004 : 5:50PM
That's some glowing review Tony. Cost much?
I didn't know Marie was Aria. Is she really this and this Aria?

If so I'm even more sorry neither Five Star nor Lasers Edge carry it.
Any idea if they will?

Saki
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2087 Posts
11/99
Posted - Oct 2 2004 : 6:48PM
The same as these reviews
Yep, same Aria (w/ smaller boobs).

- Saki

Edited by - saki on 10/2/2004 6:47:54 PM

TonyC
Comstock Films

2523 Posts
8/03
Posted - Oct 2 2004 : 8:59PM
Aria and Marie Silva are indeed one in the same. The name change and breast augmentation happened only a few months after our shoot and for about a year I didn't know if it was a secret, an open secret, or just common knowledge, so I never made mention of it. Then I started to see that just about every online resource was listing Aria as aka Marie Silva and visa versa. There's an interview on the AVN where she covers her "reinvention" of herself as Aria.

As far as Five Star and Lasers Edge, I hope by the end of next week we'll be able to count them amoung our retailers. If not, there are at least 4 dozen other places you can buy the film online, with more to come. We'll have a complete where to buy page on the redesign of the Comstock Films website, which will be up before too long.

Just to keep things on topic, Violet Blue is a great resource for women interested in porn. Violet is passionately committed to finding hardcore porn that women won't find silly, or stupid or rude. She likes comeshots and facials and assfucking, but she hates stupid or ugly porn. Her site is a great starting point for a woman or couple that want to find raunchy and raw smut that they can actually enjoy.

-T.C.

Edited by - TonyC on 10/2/2004 9:00:16 PM

Kperv
The Cuddler

*struck
(She slipped)

1818 Posts
1/04
Posted - Oct 3 2004 : 4:12AM
I know it gets consistently good reviews. I thought the rest of my post as well as the smiley would make sure no one got the impression I really thought it had been bought.

Damn that Aria looks hot. Then and now.

Now lest DB smite me for derailing the thread:

A title you might like that rarely gets mentioned is Phantom Love.
It's got a simple fun plot that the performers make work quite well.
The sex is very very nice and quite varied. It's about as far from rough robotic gonzo as you'll get in hardcore porn without going for amateur productions.
Quite 80's really. Which as far as porn goes I consider a compliment.
I can't understand why it gets so little notice. It's one of my favourites.

Does you wife like SciFi/Fantasy movies?
If she can watch Star Trek without cracking up or shaking her head at the wafer thin plots Space Nuts should be perfectly acceptable. The sex scenes are good and the plot manages to take the piss of several SF movies while being genuinely funny in it's own right.

Hercules is also quite funny but it does get a little too long winded at times. The sex scenes are good if a little far apart.

If amateur is acceptable Pixies Emporium have some nice titles. Check Astroknight's reviews

christianx
Senior Member

1883 Posts
9/04
Posted - Oct 4 2004 : 12:16AM
nice
christianx
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1883 Posts
9/04
Posted - Oct 4 2004 : 12:24AM
very nice
pornvalleyprincess
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LA
104 Posts
9/04
Posted - Oct 6 2004 : 9:55PM
;) I agree Vince. Id say dont have her watch anything that is abusive to woman like anal or deep throat fucking.Dont scare her off too soon, lol.... Start her out slow like with any Feature, something she can follow with a storyline. Preferably something with good looking men..... mmmmmmm(Nick Manning) if nothing else, watching him fuck will keep her interested.
Huggins293
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608 Posts
5/04
Posted - Oct 13 2004 : 9:45AM
 
oatmeal
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Seeking Beauty
1738 Posts
8/04
Posted - Oct 13 2004 : 10:36AM
Some Private is a bit much for some women. Some women don't like watching anal or facials. But there was one video from Private my wife found very hot. I don't even know which one it was. I'll post a ID request for it.
lindi
Senior Member

12345
3205 Posts
9/02
Posted - Oct 13 2004 : 12:16PM
I don't mind anal and facials, but the Private movies that I have seen have been cold.
dumblonde
Senior Member

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7/00
Posted - Oct 13 2004 : 8:08PM
From the Private movies I've seen, I have to agree with lindi. It's not that they're too hardcore, they just leave me cold. Not sure why.

You might want to try one of the Shane's World titles, or something like Wicked's Road Trixxx. Those kinds of movies are usually fun and spontaneous.

oatmeal
Meat Popsicle

Seeking Beauty
1738 Posts
8/04
Posted - Oct 13 2004 : 9:23PM
Are you sure you're a woman Lindi? My wife avoids watching anal and facials like it's educational... and it is. Thankfully she's not that much of a prude in bed.

You're right, there are some Private movies that are a bit cold and too Euro, but that happens with every studio's work. It's all hit and miss.

Brock make sure to check out some of the reviews available on this site first.

Zoid
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Boobies and Anal
2004 Posts
5/04
Posted - Oct 14 2004 : 12:48PM
too much droid-fucking in them

lindi
Senior Member

12345
3205 Posts
9/02
Posted - Oct 14 2004 : 4:51PM
That's part of it. Some of the really stylized Private movies have very plastic, posing girls, and guys who look like they're holding back from checking their watches.

In general, women want to see some chemistry, rather than people who look like they are there to pick up a paycheck. And by 'chemistry' I don't mean hoopskirts and romance and batted eyelashes. I don't care if it looks like a grudge fuck, or a hot one-nighter, I like to see people who look like they both want to be there, like they are having fun, and like they'd love to do it again afterward.

TonyC
Comstock Films

2523 Posts
8/03
Posted - Oct 14 2004 : 4:53PM
You'd think that wouldn't be asking for much.

-T.C.

wnd45acp
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Midwest USA
38 Posts
10/04
Posted - Oct 19 2004 : 11:39PM
As a woman/wife, what's yours into ? I tend to go for the more erotic and hard core as a woman while my husband tends to go for the "couples" stuff, although he prefers to see more fo the women as they are being done by the men vrs.the deep throating etc since he has no need to fantasize about that :)

What we get is what we like to do... I like to think of it as the "warm up" before the game... I usually watch more while he showers to get started and then by the time he gets into the movie and gets ready to rock and roll I'm already waiting... if you know what you each like and if there are limits then you know what to get or not to get...I find most of the "couples movies" flat out boring... if we are heavy into oral sex that night/weekend/week etc... he wants to see her get him hard and come and I want to see him do the same for her... if we are into just fucking then we both like couples in movies that like to find all kinds of positions to do it hard and deep and do it right... maybe you need to get tuned into her do's and don't and likes and dislikes first and take it from there ! I tend to be the oversexed one and the one into the erotic and "try me" stuff as as long as I'm not too outrageous in the introduction he is more than happy to go along with what I want or suggest...

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