Negative stereotypes toward porn fans (page 4)

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JennaRulez2006 Member The Best things In Life Are Chocolate 732 Posts 11/05	Posted - Dec 7 2005 : 10:43AM Now back to the thread at hand. I think the negative stereotypes are because of the fact there is some raunchy porn out there that gets more publicly known and so people think that is what porn is all about. And feel it is degrading women and so if a guy likes it he is scum. Will always be this way no matter what. I say so what, who cares. We are each human and can enjoy what we choose as long as it is legal. So be it. [Link]
Eric381 Deactivated User What are you looking at? It 2452 Posts 3/05	Posted - Dec 7 2005 : 11:26AM I'll spare the long-windedness here, since you obviously reply to 6-8 emails in a row...some of them even twice (rather than editing the previous message). Read the last paragraph, which I've kindly so cut your ridiculous reply down to. Last time I checked, Walmart employees weren't gov't employees. I won't further reiterate what I've already said in the past...you just don't read too well. You're not as smart as you think you are Huggies, and you don't thoroughly read my responses. You get stupidly blown up upon reading the first paragraph, and decide to reply with no factually-based information at all, other than a news clipping or court docket (which doesn't even pertain to the situation). What took you 6-8 emails, I just summed up in one! Can you do that? ~E Huggins293 wrote: A government employee does not relinquish all First Amendment rights otherwise enjoyed by citizens just by reason of his or her employment. See, e.g., Keyishian v. Board of Regents of Univ. of State of N. Y., 385 U. S. 589, 605-606 (1967). On the other hand, a governmental employer may impose certain restraints on the speech of its employees, restraints that would be unconstitutional if applied to the general public. The Court has recognized the right of employees to speak on matters of public concern, typically matters concerning government policies that are of interest to the public at large, a subject on which public employees are uniquely qualified to comment. See Connick, supra; Pickering v. Board of Ed. of Township High School Dist. 205, Will Cty., 391 U. S. 563 (1968). Outside of this category, the Court has held that when government employees speak or write on their own time on topics unrelated to their employment, the speech can have First Amendment protection, absent some governmental justification "far stronger than mere speculation" in regulating it. United States v. Treasury Employees, 513 U. S. 454, 465, 475 (1995) (NTEU). We have little difficulty in concluding that the City was not barred from terminating Roe under either line of cases. Click to expand [Link]
Huggins293 Member 608 Posts 5/04	Posted - Dec 7 2005 : 12:11PM Eric381 wrote: \Read the last paragraph, which I've kindly so cut your ridiculous reply down to. Last time I checked, Walmart employees weren't gov't employees. Click to expand So. And you think I can only find government employees. I just told your mensan ass that nurses, lawyers, doctors have been outright fired for being involved in adult entertainment. Do you need me to cite those as well. You will probably find that ridiculous too. Secondly, why is it okay for this law to exist for government employees? [Link]
Huggins293 Member 608 Posts 5/04	Posted - Dec 7 2005 : 12:47PM Eric381 wrote: You're not as smart as you think you are Huggies, and you don't thoroughly read my responses. You get stupidly blown up upon reading the first paragraph, and decide to reply with no factually-based information at all, other than a news clipping or court docket (which doesn't even pertain to the situation). What took you 6-8 emails, I just summed up in one! Can you do that? You're not as smart as you think Eric, you make the dumb remark that employers can not touch you if you are involved in the adult industry as a second job because you are off the clock. Give me a break. The facts say otherwise. An ex gay porn star got fired from his law firm for writing a book about his life in porn. So you can sit there and tell me about all the labor laws you want. YOu can not be a both a revealed porn star and have a mainstream position in many segments of our economy. [Link]

Huggins293 Member 608 Posts 5/04	Posted - Dec 7 2005 : 1:12PM Eric381 wrote: You're not as smart as you think you are Huggies, and you don't thoroughly read my responses. You get stupidly blown up upon reading the first paragraph, and decide to reply with no factually-based information at all, other than a news clipping or court docket (which doesn't even pertain to the situation). Click to expand Again why do you blow off the fact of being involved in the adult industry can get you fired? Why does it matter if they are government employees. The last time I checked governement employees were employees right. So explain to how a moral clause got them fired and why the supreme court did jack about it? I am sure every pornstar would agree with your assessment. Give me a break. [Link]
jamesn Senior Member Cambridge, MA 750 Posts 1/04	Posted - Dec 7 2005 : 1:15PM huggins--i'd fire you. you're clearly not doing your job to your fullest abilities if you're writing these novellas at all times of the day. [Link]
Huggins293 Member 608 Posts 5/04	Posted - Dec 7 2005 : 1:15PM company CAN fire you if you're involved in ANY felonious activity inside/outside of the job...BDSM hardly qualifies. If you think so, go sit in the corner and continue to yank your crank a little bit longer please. Click to expand Very Very funny. YOu sound like a Jerk. Again tell me why a couple got fired form work because they did porn on the internet. It was on oprah. So save your insults for someone who will put up with them. [Link]
Huggins293 Member 608 Posts 5/04	Posted - Dec 7 2005 : 1:18PM Eric381 wrote: Last time I checked, Walmart employees weren't gov't employees. I won't further reiterate what I've already said in the past...you just don't read too well. Click to expand Last time I checked the nursing industry and law firms were not government agencies. You just don't know a lot about these cases. Feel free to get out of your porn friendly comfort zone. [Link]
Eric381 Deactivated User What are you looking at? It 2452 Posts 3/05	Posted - Dec 7 2005 : 7:45PM I don't know about you...but I could walk into my Divison HQ and simply state that "I watch porn". Let's see what action my employer (a fortune 500 company, mind you) takes with me. I guarantee you it won't be ANYTHING... You're the one who cited the law saying that gov't employees are prohibited in such activity, so why don't you tell me, eh? Eric Huggins293 wrote: Last time I checked the nursing industry and law firms were not government agencies. You just don't know a lot about these cases. Feel free to get out of your porn friendly comfort zone. Click to expand [Link]
gia jordan Member 670 Posts 9/04	Posted - Dec 7 2005 : 8:56PM Huggins is the Ted Kazinsky of porn. And he watches Oprah. Deadly combination. [Link]
jamesn Senior Member Cambridge, MA 750 Posts 1/04	Posted - Dec 7 2005 : 8:58PM teddy k. was smart at one point. huggins, this is all of little importance unless you answer my question-- may i still fill your car with opossums? Edited by - jamesn on 12/7/2005 8:59:31 PM [Link]
Everett Senior Member 2088 Posts 6/05	Posted - Dec 7 2005 : 9:01PM gia jordan wrote: Huggins is the Ted Kazinsky of porn. And he watches Oprah. Deadly combination. Click to expand Gia J. Im looking at your new avatar. Are you more comfortable as a blond or a brunette? [Link]
Eric381 Deactivated User What are you looking at? It 2452 Posts 3/05	Posted - Dec 7 2005 : 9:35PM Well Gia, at least it's not Dr. Phil!! Ahhhhh!!!!! Eric gia jordan wrote: Huggins is the Ted Kazinsky of porn. And he watches Oprah. Deadly combination. Click to expand [Link]
Patrick Riverside Member 33 Posts 2/05	Posted - Dec 7 2005 : 11:30PM I was going to respond to Huggins reply to my response on Page 2, but why even bother? The guy is so far gone it's not worth it. A hint. There is no job where you get paid 80,000 a year, sit in a cubicle, and get to freely talk about your favorite edition of "Screw My Wife" while the hot secretary in a mini skirt sits on the desk with her black stockings and garters showing, cooing about how astute you are on your analysis of proper lighting during a double facial. Dude, quit Wal-Mart, move to L.A. and go do porn. Produce, direct, audio, whatever you want. Or just go work in an adult video store. Then you can get paid shit, just like at Wal-Mart and talk about porn all day. You just better be at the counter ready to take my money and have clean hands when I come in to buy my copy of AVN. Either way, you'll be a LOT happier. [Link]

Huggins293 Member 608 Posts 5/04	Posted - Dec 8 2005 : 2:10PM Eric381 wrote: I don't know about you...but I could walk into my Divison HQ and simply state that "I watch porn". Let's see what action my employer (a fortune 500 company, mind you) takes with me. I guarantee you it won't be ANYTHING... Eric No shit Shirlock but I guarantee if you go on talking about porn stars around the office even if you don't talk about the explicit details of their, you may get a talking to. You're the one who cited the law saying that gov't employees are prohibited in such activity, so why don't you tell me, eh? Click to expand I just revealed to you that there are companies that have "moral clauses" that will bar you from associating with the adult industry at least as a performer. Dude got fired for being in porn and it was an off-work activity. Yet you want to be mr. technical and say that doesn't count because he is a government employee. [Link]
Huggins293 Member 608 Posts 5/04	Posted - Dec 8 2005 : 2:14PM A hint. There is no job where you get paid 80,000 a year, sit in a cubicle, and get to freely talk about your favorite edition of "Screw My Wife" while the hot secretary in a mini skirt sits on the desk with her black stockings and garters showing, cooing about how astute you are on your analysis of proper lighting during a double facial.[/quote} Dude let me clue you in on the discussion. Mensan eric told me that any association with the adult industry outside of your dayjob won't get you fired. I educated him that a police officer did porn outside of his profession and he got canned. The courts did jack about it. It is called the morals clause which defines morals according to the peers in the insttitution not objectively. Let me also clue you in on this fact. If you are a college basketball player and it is known that you do porn outside of college you may be kicked off the team. Why if porn is so acceptbable? [Link]
Huggins293 Member 608 Posts 5/04	Posted - Dec 8 2005 : 2:16PM Dude, quit Wal-Mart, move to L.A. and go do porn. Produce, direct, audio, whatever you want. Or just go work in an adult video store. Then you can get paid shit, just like at Wal-Mart and talk about porn all day. You just better be at the counter ready to take my money and have clean hands when I come in to buy my copy of AVN. Either way, you'll be a LOT happier. Click to expand That's the plan dude but I am not getting paid shit for doing equal amount of work. Secondly, don't worry as performer you won't hear these types of tirades. But it seems that a lot of you forget that this is the internet and guess what compared to real life you can bitch a lot more. So don't worry. when I do all of this, you won't hear these tirades out in public since you are so offended by them or you just can't grasp the point. Thank you and good night [Link]
Huggins293 Member 608 Posts 5/04	Posted - Dec 8 2005 : 2:18PM Huggins293 wrote: Eric381 wrote: I don't know about you...but I could walk into my Divison HQ and simply state that "I watch porn". Let's see what action my employer (a fortune 500 company, mind you) takes with me. I guarantee you it won't be ANYTHING... Eric No shit Shirlock but I guarantee if you go on talking about porn stars around the office even if you don't talk about the explicit details of their, you may get a talking to. You're the one who cited the law saying that gov't employees are prohibited in such activity, so why don't you tell me, eh? Click to expand I just revealed to you that there are intsitutions that have "moral clauses" that will bar you from associating with the adult industry at least as a performer. Police dude got fired for being in porn and it was an off-work activity. Couple working at the hospital got canned for doing am porn. Please. [Link]
Huggins293 Member 608 Posts 5/04	Posted - Dec 8 2005 : 2:18PM Huggins293 wrote: A hint. There is no job where you get paid 80,000 a year, sit in a cubicle, and get to freely talk about your favorite edition of "Screw My Wife" while the hot secretary in a mini skirt sits on the desk with her black stockings and garters showing, cooing about how astute you are on your analysis of proper lighting during a double facial.[/quote} Dude let me clue you in on the discussion. Mensan eric told me that any association with the adult industry outside of your dayjob won't get you fired. I educated him that a police officer did porn outside of his profession and he got canned. The courts did jack about it. It is called the morals clause which defines morals according to the peers in the insttitution not objectively. Let me also clue you in on this fact. If you are a college basketball player and it is known that you do porn outside of college you may be kicked off the team. Why? If porn is so acceptbable? Click to expand [Link]
Eric381 Deactivated User What are you looking at? It 2452 Posts 3/05	Posted - Dec 8 2005 : 5:57PM Only if you wear something that has the college logo in it can LEGAL action be taken against you. Take a look at the stuff being revealed about Courtney Simpson right now. I didn't say it was acceptable, I just said there is no legal recourse that your employer can get away with. You have rights to defend yourself, do so. Of course, maybe in Alabam'r where they put the Ten Commandments & shit on the gov't buildings...and they'll chain gang ya'll for doin' anti-Biblical stuff like that, ya'll understand? EDIT: Moderator, could someone clean up Huggin's misguided replies? One can't tell where his responses start or end. It took him a full 4 replies to get his scued view across to the rest of it...yet I still don't see his point. Really, I can't find it!! Eric Huggins293 wrote: Let me also clue you in on this fact. If you are a college basketball player and it is known that you do porn outside of college you may be kicked off the team. Why if porn is so acceptbable? Click to expand Edited by - eric381 on 12/8/2005 6:00:26 PM [Link]
Myload Senior Member A rose is what you are to me 2069 Posts 6/03	Posted - Dec 8 2005 : 6:21PM JennaRulez2006 wrote: Now back to the thread at hand. I think the negative stereotypes are because of the fact there is some raunchy porn out there that gets more publicly known and so people think that is what porn is all about. Click to expand Unfortunately, that's true. That's a major misconception about porn. People who are anti-porn think that all porn is alike. They aren't willing to believe that there is a lot of diversity in porn, just like there is in mainstream movies. After all, there is a huge difference between "Hidden Obsessions" and "Cum Filled Asshole Overload", but the porn haters aren't willing to see that, and they will never be convinced otherwise. And feel it is degrading women and so if a guy likes it he is scum. Will always be this way no matter what. Click to expand That's another misconception. Porn haters aren't willling to believe that most porn fans are decent, hard-working people, many of whom are in relationships or are married and may also have children. They have this image of all porn fans being deranged preverts, and again can't be convinced otherwise. They could meet someone who is the nicest person in the world, but if they find out that person has even a remote interest in porn, their opinion will automatically change. Wathcing porno movies doesn't make you a scumbag. It just means who like movies that aren't wholesome. Also, it's true that porn haters think that porn degrades women, even Andrew Blake movies. They only see porn as a collective whole rather than as individual movies. That's one area where they go majorly wrong, but they're too closed-minded to believe anything else. I say so what, who cares. We are each human and can enjoy what we choose as long as it is legal. So be it. Click to expand That's what I say. Since we're adults, we can watch whatever we want. It's not harming anyone. [Link]
Eric381 Deactivated User What are you looking at? It 2452 Posts 3/05	Posted - Dec 8 2005 : 6:33PM You mean...the Max Hardcore's of the industry? There is a line between "fucking on film" and "outright abuse", whether consented or not. But then again, the politicians are no better, they try to lump such acts & laws into the same bills which make frivelous lawsuits for being fat, a crime. We are? Geez, I thought I was a professional pervert? Hmmm, better reevaluate that one. And besides, if you ARE one of those hard-working, married w/ children types...(in the most stubborn Bible-thumpin' voice I can think of), what are ya'll lookin at porn for anyhow? Oh, lordy-god...it's outright disgusin'! And if I don't like it, I don't wants my childs to see it, or even if I wanna fire yo' hillbilly ass @ work b/c I thinks it's a disgrace... Well then, by god, you shouldn't permit'd to view it either!! Cloz-mind't? Boy, I'm as liberal as day come... I say they're all the Bible-thumpers are in denial, lol. Esp. them, since they are the "moral majority" behind all these anti-porn campaigns. ~E Myload wrote: That's another misconception. Porn haters aren't willling to believe that most porn fans are decent, hard-working people, many of whom are in relationships or are married and may also have children. They have this image of all porn fans being deranged preverts, and again can't be convinced otherwise. They could meet someone who is the nicest person in the world, but if they find out that person has even a remote interest in porn, their opinion will automatically change. Wathcing porno movies doesn't make you a scumbag. It just means who like movies that aren't wholesome. Also, it's true that porn haters think that porn degrades women, even Andrew Blake movies. They only see porn as a collective whole rather than as individual movies. That's one area where they go majorly wrong, but they're too closed-minded to believe anything else. That's what I say. Since we're adults, we can watch whatever we want. It's not harming anyone. Click to expand [Link]
Myload Senior Member A rose is what you are to me 2069 Posts 6/03	Posted - Dec 8 2005 : 6:42PM Eric381 wrote: You mean...the Max Hardcore's of the industry? There is a line between "fucking on film" and "outright abuse", whether consented or not. But then again, the politicians are no better, they try to lump such acts & laws into the same bills which make frivelous lawsuits for being fat, a crime. We are? Geez, I thought I was a professional pervert? Hmmm, better reevaluate that one. And besides, if you ARE one of those hard-working, married w/ children types...(in the most stubborn Bible-thumpin' voice I can think of), what are ya'll lookin at porn for anyhow? Oh, lordy-god...it's outright disgusin'! And if I don't like it, I don't wants my childs to see it, or even if I wanna fire yo' hillbilly ass @ work b/c I thinks it's a disgrace... Well then, by god, you shouldn't permit'd to view it either!! Cloz-mind't? Boy, I'm as liberal as day come... I say they're all the Bible-thumpers are in denial, lol. Esp. them, since they are the "moral majority" behind all these anti-porn campaigns. Click to expand [Link]
London Member 22 Posts 11/05	Posted - Dec 8 2005 : 7:57PM I was fired for DATING a pornstar!!! [Link]

scipio Senior Member 1901 Posts 2/00	Posted - Dec 8 2005 : 8:04PM Mod: Guys, and especially Huggins. Please learn to condense your replies. Especially when you're replying to one person, there is no need for 4 or 6 posts in a row. I said this a few days ago. Even when you're replying to different people, take a few seconds to cut and paste the quotes from each person. It makes the thread about a thousand times easier to read, because right now, it's a fuckin' mess to follow. Sometimes you make two posts in a row, shit happens, but making 4 or 6 in a row with every wave of postings has gotten real old, and I mentioned this a couple of days ago. If you want to spam the living hell out of one another, take it to email. These multiple reply-messes just don't work well in a forum. I'm going to lock this thread now for a few hours. I'll unlock it again later on, hopefully you can figure out how to quote properly in the meantime. Don't start a new thread on the topic in the meantime either. Use this thread, when I unlock it and learn to consolidate your posts. scipio Edited by - scipio on 12/8/2005 8:05:08 PM [Link]
morbidthoughts All-Star Member Big cats scare me but... 3627 Posts 1/03	Posted - Jan 1 2006 : 12:10AM Eric381 wrote: You can NOT be fired for associating with something perfectly legal (ie: porn) outside of duty hours at your job. If you believe otherwise, talk to an FELA lawyer. Click to expand Uhh yes, you can. Why are you citing to FELA? Not everybody works in the railroad industry. [Link]
Herzog Deactivated User 245 Posts 2/12	Posted - Feb 24 2012 : 1:00PM Alcoholic. [Link]