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Vroomfondel
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8/01
Posted - Nov 20 2003 : 9:15PM
::useless tirade deleted::

Hardware puts moderator hat back on

Vroomfondel, what part of my previous didn't you understand? Drop it or I'm locking this thread. Either way that's the end to your feud with Cal444.

Edited by - hardware on 11/20/2003 9:21:30 PM

barrybrn
Senior Member

1568 Posts
9/03
Posted - Nov 20 2003 : 9:23PM
IMHO XXX Road Trip 4 was a great movie. Sure Vince can be a smart ass, but so can I. I think he did a good job and was just joking around, like we all do at times. Some people may or may not take our joking around serious. Hey this is just porn, no need to get so serious. Leave the serious stuff to the people who don't watch porn.

Edited by - barrybrn on 11/20/2003 10:09:39 PM

cal444
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927 Posts
10/01
Posted - Nov 21 2003 : 4:50AM
Hardware
Didn't mean to act childish, but childish is one of my stronger suits.


Cal444
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skronker
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9780 Posts
9/02
Posted - Nov 21 2003 : 11:28AM
I find it interesting (re: Group Thing 3) that Vince left all that in (with Neveah -- Jesus, these names! -- and the wash-yo-dick speech). Obviously, he could have edited around it but left it as part of "the process." I like that. I mean, Vince bugs me when he's onscreen talent sometimes for a few reasons, but leaving in such moments increases the, whatcha callit, "versimilitude," the reality factor, and actually makes it sexier -- for me, anyway.

And everyone talks trash about everyone, pretty much, men and women. Some way somehow. It's rather silly to argue otherwise, particularly if you further impugn the quality of someone else's peers -- just because you disagree with what they said. That's "talking trash," thus proving Cal's point, sort of.

 
Sir Noel Plum
Senior Studmuffin

1001 Posts
2/03
Posted - Nov 21 2003 : 12:44PM
I agree with you here Stronker and I think this scene that TSC mentions highlights a key aspect of how to fairly portray these kinds of things. With this example it is a fair and balanced portrayal of what happened where the viewer can make up their own minds.
Going back to the main concern of this thread (a film I have not yet seen) it would appear that what is shown is rather less balanced. Clearly on a Vince Voyeur set Vince Voyeur is the boss (as he should be) and that already gives him a great advantage in how things pan out and are portrayed. My problem with the scene, as described, is that this BTS as the credits roll is not a fair exchange. Voyeur can be judge jury and executioner if he so wishes and it's just too easy and, in my view, bad form to just berate someone in your film who is unable or not given the opportunity to defend themselves.
Maybe if Vince Voyeur ever comes to cross purposes with Rupert Murdoch he will understand this point a little better.

SNP.

Edited by - Sir Noel Plum on 11/21/2003 1:06:08 PM

Sir Noel Plum
Senior Studmuffin

1001 Posts
2/03
Posted - Nov 21 2003 : 1:04PM
Your last line is correct but I don't think many would argue with that point.

I know for one though, that if I were to make a film where I would be 'chokefucked' or whatever (not likely a top seller) I would feel much happier knowing that if it all got too much I would not be bullied or haranged for taking a breather.
To analogise via a boxing match, you might have to 'take the blows to get the dough' but as soon as you or your corner throw the towel in you are treated as a hero, and with the respect you deserve, regardless of the outcome of the fight.

Porn expects more and more of girls every year and it really must be a daunting thing to start up in the business. These girls must all have great courage to join the industry. Now, somebody mentioned in another thread how all the anal and such must put many girls off. I personally think their is some truth in that, but as I can't see the demand for harder edged porn changing anytime soon (not with me anyway I think the most important aspect has to be that the environment off camera is not made so hostile that girls are put off from at least 'giving it a go'. This may not because they are not prepared to do the acts in question but because they are scared of the response they will get from half a dozen burly men (physically intimidating, though I'm not for a moment suggesting deliberate physical intimidation) should they prove to be out their depth.
My point P Knuckle is that the harder you go therefore the greater the sensitivity needs to be. I remember seeing in one of Brandons Slap Happy scenes he tells the girl beforehand 'if it gets too much tap on my leg' and if as a female performer you are considering doing any kind of rough or potentially painful act that kind of consideration must go a long way compared to a heartless' you booked for the scene so do it!' kind of response.

SNP.

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