^ I'm not speaking for Porn Minister, but I think a common argument from porn the industry/viewers is that certain acts are not degrading because some women like doing them, and even do them in their private lives (where they're not being paid).
Whether a woman does something in her private life or not doesn't necessarily indicate whether she likes it. Many women don't act out fantasies because there is so much social judgment and it's not worth the risk. There are also other risks involved that might give one pause before running out and fucking a dozen men. Regardless, yes there are indeed women who seek out gangbangs in real life.
Really? you've never been at a swinging party I get, also I don't think those who like are outing that around same for those into orgies , as for bukkake , while I've never seen a true one I've known women into BJs and swallowing , I was convinced women didn't like such things and that they did that to please us, but then I met one of those and then some others , so yes there definitely are those who would very much like a bukkake if you give them the chance to have a safe one. Also there's degrading and degrading being degraded by those who want do degrade women who don't like to be treated like that is one thing, to degrade those who want especially to be degraded is another thing, never asked to treat them like a whore? Dirty talking? Hard pounding , drill senseless? Break their ass? There are those who ask especially: use me! do whatever you want with me! Edited by - LCF on 3/20/2016 10:33:07 AM
Ok, I understand. Like I said, I don't want to bring up a debate. And since this thread is about "porn acts that do nothing for you" I come to the conclusion that gangbangs aren't really my thing.
^ And as you brought up social judgement, even just allow them to publicly state them. Following on from "never heard of any girl, who likes to fuck six ... guys one after the other", it's not like you're average woman could publicly admit to even wanting to do such a thing, let alone actually doing it and enjoying it, without being called every name under the sun - by men and women.
^ And yet do it in porn and you're idolised and fawned over. Seems to me if you're the kind of chick who's up for 10-man sessions, why the hell would you want to do that in your private life when porn provides the opportunity both to live out your fantasies whilst also being paid for it? It's a no-brainer.
^ Let's not pretend that being a woman and doing porn results in simple idolization. Even some of the men that jerk off to it also look down on the women for doing it.
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Posted - Mar 21 2016 : 1:32PM
Well i guess in the same way people cast judgement on men calling them misognists for indulging their sexual fantasies the same applies to women - so yeh a women who goes fucking around and having gangbangs is likely going to be labelled. Are you saying this type of judgement is good or bad ?
I know someone mentioned this already, but I just saw a scene that irritated the crap out of me: shakey, handheld POV. (most of this rant is directed at a company that shall remain nameless) 1: look dude, I'd guess that 99% of us are completely uninterested in seeing your face in the shot (besides it POV), so there is no need to try and hold the camera behind your ear and catch the side of your face while you are fucking the girl. Not only does it leave less screen space to see what we are really interested in, the girl, but also it does nothing to add "reality" to the scenario. Do you think that if you don't include these types of shots that we are going to think that there is just some magical floating dick doing all the fucking? 2: If you are unable to fuck and shoot at the same time DON'T DO IT! This one I mostly blame the "studio". A lot of POV from this particular company looks as if it's the first time the guy has ever attempted to fuck and shoot at the same time. PROFESSIONALS prepare for work. Doctors, digital designers, financial advisors, et al. stay current with trends in their fields. Professional athletes practice the skills that they use to preform at work. But in porn some of these "professional" male porn stars seem as if it's the first time holding a camera when shooting these POV scenes. In the scene that I just watched about 1/3 of the BJ scene was just the girl framed from the nose up bobbing up and down. I'm not a huge POV fan to begin with, but IMHO there are very unbalanced extremes in the genre: there is a very small number of well done POV and then the vast majority of rubbish. I've been unsatisfied with the particular paid membership site for awhile and this was the last straw as I just canceled my membership. Every single one of their sub-sites is equally amateurish, but their POV is like the Blair Witch project had a baby with the Bourne Identity and then let it shoot a movie with a Fisher Price video camera
I get turned off if I see a piece of tissue paper stuck up a girl's crack. Now, I know everyone's got to go, but I don't think I expect too much if I expect a girl in a porno to be douched, dried and dolled-up. Most porn focuses on a girl's private parts with or without a guy next to them (and nowadays in HD), so one would expect them to be more careful, but several such scenes do exit even within the archives of some very popular studios, eg. the Kristy Althaus scene for Girls Do Porn, Rylie in Backroom Casting Couch etc., etc. It's a real boner-killer and that is a pity for the girl in such a scene is often sexy otherwise, but you just can't get past the tiny, little piece of white, pink or sky-blue up her Netherlands. Also, more often than not, it's the mouthy girls who're also the 'stuck-up' ones but that's just a Freudification of genital hygiene.
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Posted - Jun 7 2016 : 1:06AM
One standard element(s) of a B/G scene that does nothin' for me and gets me to fast-forward every time is when the guy is: -Licking/sucking/kissing the girl's breasts -Licking (eating out) the girl's pussy -Licking the girl's butthole Of course, I understand that these things are essentially required for the standard porn scene, but watching a dude orally pleasing a woman is just something that does nothing for me.
I think lots of women have a gangbang fantasy. Just in porn, Remy Lacroix joined the porn biz so she could get gangbanged. There are other girls at kink who have done the same. Mischa Cross and Lola Taylor are a couple of Eurobabes who wanted to get gangbanged at the start of their careers The fantasy for the girls is there are 5 guys (or whatever), and all their dicks are hard b/c she is so desirable. They are willing to disregard the male imperative for exclusivity b/c she is so hot. They fuck her like she is simply a vessel of sexual fulfillment. And they all come; she has induced 5 guys to orgasm with her sexuality. It's a total validation of her as a sexual being. The Lola Taylor gangbang is funny b/c there was another girl in the room just observing, and the guys started looking and talking to the other girl. It pissed Lola off b/c it took the guys' attention away from her, and their desire was supposed to be directed at her Now whether most women would actually want to get gangbanged in real life I have no idea.
^^ To be fair to Mass Facialities, he did not say that he hates eating girls out. He said he hates watching it in porn. What you like to watch and what you like to do, don't have to be the same thing. I personally love getting a rimjob, but I'm not really a fan of watching it in porn. Especially if it goes on for an extended period of time. I just don't like the angles it's shot in usually. Also I don't like the way most porn dudes moan. But in my personal life, man, if she's willing to do it, I'll gladly accept it for as long as she wants to go.
^ This is true. I was quite careful to say "in porn" after catching myself.
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Canadian_Cindy Deactivated User
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Posted - Jul 30 2016 : 10:03PM
Fair point; I suppose from reading his posts over time I have created the belief that he does not care much about his partner's sexual needs in his personal life :) Doesn't seem like the happiest fellow.
^ Really? Mass always seems like one of the most positive members around here to me. I rarely, if ever, see him sniping in the threads of performers he's not into and when he has a criticism of a company he typically frames it pretty well. Definitely doesn't seem like one of the resident sourpusses to me. Edited by - Mister Fahrenheit on 7/31/2016 10:36:38 AM
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Posted - Aug 1 2016 : 12:32AM
^ LOL, thank you for your "character witness" testimony, MF. So, yeah, I'm surprised to find that some random post of mine from 6+ weeks ago is all of a sudden getting so much attention. Furthermore, I find it funny, these assumptions that have been made because of the post-that because WATCHING some guy orally satisfying a girl does nothing for me, that automatically means that I hate cunnilingus (yes, I had to Google that for the spelling) and refuse to do it for any girlfriend/sexual partner of mine, not to mention that I'm some sort of misogynist pig that gets pissed off at the sight of a woman enjoying herself. I mean, I clearly stated in the post that watching the act does nothing for me, thus the reason I made the post in THIS thread:To further explain myself...I just have no interest in watching parts of a scene where the camera is focused on the male performer's mouth/face/head. Along with the acts I specified in the previous post, extended kissing segments are also something that does nothing for me and gets me to fast-forward everytime. Anyways, just because I have no interest in watching it in porn, doesn't automatically mean I hate the act and won't do it myself. My name might not be Colonel Angus, but I'm still willing and able to "go down south" for my lady's pleasure!
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Posted - Aug 1 2016 : 1:03AM
I know I've drawn your ire because of what I posted in this thread and especially because of what I once stated in the What are some things you HATE in porn? thread. Specifically:Now, I probably should've specified that some "hands on" self-pleasuring by the girl is fine by me, and that what I actually hate is when a girl practically has her hand glued to her vagina for the entirety of the vaginal sex, thus obstructing my view of the penetration. And that, for me, it's like the equivalent of a girl covering her mouth with her hand for the entirety of a blowjob. Regardless, my hate for this act has nothing to do with a girl "enjoying" herself, it's all about the fact that there's a hand in the way of what I the viewer want to see and enjoy. "The defense rests."
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Posted - Aug 1 2016 : 2:40AM
^ So let me see if I can make sense of this. You do not wish to see the woman be pleasured or self pleasuring herself, or have acts done to her that involve her partners mouth such as oral or kissing , and so forth. And, you do not wish to see anything resembling a man in view of the camera (my assumption is you worry it makes you gay if you see a guy naked or something). So, what do you actually watch porn for? If the girl getting off is meaningless, and you can't bare to see the guy...what are you looking at? I am guessing just bukkakes and facial films would be your trick and nothing else? But wait! You must have hated Morgan Lee's recent epic facialized scene with mason because Mason was so disgraceful she ordered the guys to eat morgan out and tried to get morgan off during the scene. Edited by - Canadian_Cindy on 8/1/2016 2:43:25 AM
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Posted - Aug 1 2016 : 4:28AM
^ Geez, Cindy-From-Canada, you are REALLY miscontruing everything I've said. "You do not wish to see the woman be pleasured or self pleasuring herself, or have acts done to her that involve her partners mouth such as oral or kissing , and so forth." Um, it's not that I "do not wish to see" it, AGAIN, it is a porn act that does nothing for me. "And, you do not wish to see anything resembling a man in view of the camera (my assumption is you worry it makes you gay if you see a guy naked or something)." LOL, no, but watching a guy licking/kissing wherever does nothing for me. "So, what do you actually watch porn for? If the girl getting off is meaningless, and you can't bare to see the guy...what are you looking at?" Um, I watch porn to see pretty 'n sexy girls get nude and have sex (blowjob, missionary, cowgirl, reverse cowgirl, doggy, etc.) with men who are (preferably) "bigger" than I am. Do I want the girl to do so with a smile on her face? Of course. Do I prefer that the girl "gets off" during the scene (or at least give the impression that she's "getting off")? Sure, but if you truly believe that a girl is actually cumming everytime she screams "I'm cumming!", well, I have a bridge to sell you. "I am guessing just bukkakes and facial films would be your trick and nothing else? But wait! You must have hated Morgan Lee's recent epic facialized scene with mason because Mason was so disgraceful she ordered the guys to eat morgan out and tried to get morgan off during the scene." The eating out, finger-banging, etc. of Morgan did nothing for me, it neither enhanced the scene nor made it any worse as far as I'm concerned. I watched and enjoyed it for the blowjob action and facial finish; actually, the pre-scene conversation between her and Mason was pretty cool, too.
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Canadian_Cindy Deactivated User
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Posted - Aug 1 2016 : 8:35PM
^Why would the man's size matter if you have said you are not interested in seeing the camera on the guy at all...... do you want to see his dick or not? I am not sure I understand this circle you have boxed yourself into. You want to see women have sex, but only if it is the man's dick getting satisfied and nothing to do with the woman... am I correct now? So, watching porn for you is all about big dicks? Mason's pre and post scene conversations with the women are always a lot of fun. I believe she gets the best out of her performers almost every time. Edited by - Canadian_Cindy on 8/1/2016 8:37:07 PM
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Turn offs: Gapes, extreme gapes (showing the rosy red insides of assholes) Fisting Too much slobber, like when face-fucking, throat-fucking Giggling/kidding around during sex scene Interviews with girls, even short ones Usually fake tits Guys who seem like they are about to deliver the cumshot and then take forever Gross-looking "gloopy" cumshots Do nothings: Most lesbian scenes Solo masturbation scenes Black on black scenes, most black guy/other girl scenes Piss scenes There's gotta be more, but that is what comes to mind now.
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Mass Facialties Deactivated User
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Posted - Aug 6 2016 : 4:14AM
Good point. Another example of this for me would be creampies-doing it myself is an awesome feeling, but watching someone else do it? It does absolutely nothin' for me and is a total waste of a cumshot, as far as I'm concerned. By the way, question for Mister Fahrenheit: Please tell me you got (understood) my "Colonel Angus" reference???
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Posted - Aug 7 2016 : 1:50AM
^ Phew, good. I was worried nobody was gonna get that reference.
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bacon cheesesteak Deactivated User
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Posted - Aug 8 2016 : 8:32AM
Kitchen sex scenes. They look too uncomfortable to be natural. Fucking on the bathroom floor just seems dumb. Right before the cum shot, the asshole cameraman decides to close up on the dude's face. Dude, I did NOT watch this scene to be jerking off to a giant man's face. Extreme gapes. I love women's assholes. I just don't need to see waaaay up inside that motherfucker. The idiot with the camera talking throughout the scene. Dude, shut the fuck up. You are not funny. You are not clever. You are annoying.
People say this a lot, but I struggle to find any porn after 2010 that acknowledges that dude's even have faces. Could you name a couple of titles? I like porn that isn't scared of men.
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Posted - Aug 12 2016 : 11:31AM
Breasts bound up with rope so tight they are about to burst! I like the boundgangbang videos from kink, but hate it when they do this.
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Dragon Sign Deactivated User
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Posted - Sep 6 2016 : 5:29PM
Manuel Ferrara taking a break and starting licking toes for three minutes. Manuel Ferrara not ever leaving the couch during a 35 minute sex act, not even landing his feet on the ground, like if he wasn't on fire at all. John Strong like if he just had enough already throwing himself back on the couch and not altering position untill sundown's missionary where as the balls won't be visible until sun comes up and my nighmare is intrigued, because where did the balls go? Mark Wood in REd Light District starting pussy licking and then stuffs his dick in after some twenty seconds like if there's a green light all the way to the Canadian border, or nowadays Mark Wood comes in and before you know it his dick hits target and the show is all his for five scenes with a sign on the wall saying asspumping only .
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Pennywize Deactivated User
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Posted - Sep 6 2016 : 6:17PM
I'm not into solo or g/g. If the porn girl is not taking cock then I am not interested.
Turn offs: Rosebuds and prolapse play - nasty, gross, weird. Bukkake - just plain foul. Vaginas that look like Arby's roast beef sandwiches. Bent or crooked cocks - freakish. Female on male rimming - Great in real life, not so great while watching porn. Gangbangs - Way too much cock and balls. Not for my viewing pleasure. Double anal gangbangs where two overly aggresive dudes are mercilessly inflicting obvious trauma on a female that is wincing and screaming in pain. 2 Girls 1 Cup and the like - shitty foulness that i can't even comprehend. Do nothings: Titty fucking - meh. it's ok in real life but kinda boring to watch. Foot fetish play - women's feet can be sexy and a turn on but again kinda boring when a scene revolves around it. Double/Triple anal - An interesting novelty act the first time or two I saw it, but too much dick and male ass in the scene, dicks rubbing against each other, dudes asses all over the screen. Not my cup of tea. Midget porn - I watched Bridget the midget once or twice back in the day. I felt weird about it afterwards. Like kinda creeped out. Interacial porn - I view people as people. We all bleed red, we all have souls. I get no extra kick out of the fact that a scene has people of different races have sex in it. I just enjoy the scene for all the reasons that have nothing to do with race. Just to clarify, I don't dislike IR.
That is something I'll never understand either as to why people care so damn much about the race of the people involved. Their skin color isn't going to do anything for me. I want to see a scene that is hot regardless of race.
^^ Thanks for mentioning tittyfucking. Watching it's never done anything for me either. (I just thought I was the only one.)
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doug v Deactivated User
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Posted - Sep 8 2016 : 1:27PM
TURN OFF IN PORN- When men speak or make sounds but seeing a cock getting sucked by a pretty female is such a turn on. But the somewhat turn off when it comes to women is when their cuns and asses are DRY with totally clean buttholes. Anal sex is a major turn on when the women sits on the guy with legs up because you could see her wet cun and ass cheeks with tits face all in full view as she goes up and down, especially just before the cock goes in or when or after it comes out but a TURN OFF if the theres a gape or big gape. Edited by - doug v on 9/8/2016 5:04:03 PM
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Posted - Sep 8 2016 : 1:40PM
Yeah, dry cunts, that should be prohibited by the goddamn director. There is a thing called oil, but when it's dry, it must have been gone.
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doug v Deactivated User
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Posted - Sep 8 2016 : 3:46PM
If ya ever check those 1990 to 2001 compilations (or features) by VCA, Sunshine lesbian, Elegant angel, JM prod., Evil empire, Metro, Video team lesbian, Caballero, Western visuals, etc(and 70's to 90's), you'll notice women were more wet back then with slightly more "she just had a oop and wipe like a 1/2 hour ago or not as yet and its slightly noticable with bulgie" type of wet buttholes and cuns because back then they looked more day to day and got more wet and werent embarrassed to show it like so much new porn 2008 and over that are dry, although sure theres some amazing wet and oiled scenes 2008 and over, especially 2000 to 2004, and most of all 80's to 99. Edited by - doug v on 9/8/2016 3:54:51 PM Edited by - doug v on 9/8/2016 3:58:25 PM Edited by - doug v on 9/8/2016 4:02:18 PM Edited by - doug v on 9/8/2016 5: Edited by - doug v on 9/8/2016 5:22:47 PM
its not a turn off but in professional porn, if a girl is gonna do any kind of scene with her asshole, (unless its shit porn or w/e fetish) her anus should be bleached. if their body has problems with it then ok but if not then it should be mandatory. its really hot seeing lesibians lick their bleached assholes furiously.
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Posted - Sep 10 2016 : 7:08PM
Yeah, but those compilations you name suck big time. They cost about nothing but is clean cut crap productionwise. Did I mention condom-porn, too? And no good picturequality, too much light, too much music along, too bad music along, too loud music along?
I'll chime in. Things that do nothing for me or turn me off? Any scene where there are more dicks than chicks. (Including DPs) Face slapping Choking, slobbery blowjobs. Black male, white female IR (but I like Wm, BF) food in ass speculums in ass rosebuds, gapes milk enemas squirting peeing