On the licking stick, Mr. Magic Dick! 3309 Posts 2/09
Posted - Jan 5 2011 : 11:00AM
My final two cents on this thread is this, and I'm suprised it hasn't been brought up before, any sort of guy on guy contact will result in the guys rubbering up when it comes time for the girl, and we know how that will go over. Condoms = sales decline/lack of sales.
I've actually only seen a couple. I'm just going by what I've seen and read. The Deviant was enjoyable, but I found the audio quite problematic -- I think you will feel the same way. Nica has commented elsewhere that she's more satisfied with their later work, particularly Gigolos (which I haven't seen, but it is appealing and I plan on watching it). I have two others -- A Man and a Maid, and the recent interracial Victorian flick (can't remember the name) but haven't watched them yet.
pornography wasn't sex but fantasies of an impossibly hospitable world 12377 Posts 9/07
Posted - Jan 6 2011 : 3:56AM
Interesting point, but is it actually true of Bi scenes? The only bi porn I've seen has been from the classic era and some BJ stuff Kevin Moore shot.
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jobe55 Deactivated User
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Posted - Jan 6 2011 : 8:11AM
So bisexuality in men automatically means a greater risk of venereal disease? LOL. I think your comments indicate ignorance. There are plenty of healthy bisexual men about. I don't see why any of them would be more risky than a hetero male or a bisexual female. In the promiscuous porn industry, nobody has a mortgage on the moral high ground. Edited by - jobe55 on 1/6/2011 8:12:29 AM
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jobe55 Deactivated User
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Posted - Jan 6 2011 : 8:14AM
Black Six, You mean you've never seen bisexual porn in the form of female bisexuality? Every so-called straight porn movie with girl-girl action is a bisexual porn movie. All straight porn should be re-classified as bisexual porn.
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Posted - Jan 6 2011 : 8:17AM
Bradford, Lesbian scenes are homosexual scenes. If you enjoy watching them, you're enjoying homosexual viewing. No amount of spin from the porn industry is going to change the fact that lesbians are homosexuals. Any porn movie that contains lesbian scenes should be defined as containing homosexual scenes.
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On the licking stick, Mr. Magic Dick! 3309 Posts 2/09
Posted - Jan 6 2011 : 10:17AM
Actually its HIV/AIDS and outside of places like Africa, gay guys are the primary recipient/transmitters of HIV. Note I said "primary", I don't need comments telling me that others spread HIV also.
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On the licking stick, Mr. Magic Dick! 3309 Posts 2/09
Posted - Jan 6 2011 : 10:24AM
Technically lesbo scenes are homosexual scenes; however, general society refers to girl on girl love as just Lesbian, dyke, butch, and possibly gay. Noone ever calls them homosexuals, where as gay guys are called gay or homosexual.
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Posted - Jan 6 2011 : 2:59PM
Troll snacks are $1/bag at the concession. Please don't feed them junk.
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jobe55 Deactivated User
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Posted - Jan 6 2011 : 4:29PM
Rosco Fuji, You sound very ignorant on HIV/AIDS. Anything to demonize gay/bisexual men, eh? Nobody gets HIV because of their orientation. Orientation doesn't cause it. Promiscuity causes it, not orientation.
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On the licking stick, Mr. Magic Dick! 3309 Posts 2/09
Posted - Jan 7 2011 : 12:32AM
You're an idiot, I never said orientation causes HIV nor do I demonize anyone, learn to read. Pay close attention to the CDC. Gay, bisexual, and other men who have sex with men (MSM)1 represent approximately 2% of the US population, yet are the population most severely affected by HIV and are the only risk group in which new HIV infections have been increasing steadily since the early 1990s. Since the beginning of the US epidemic, MSM have consistently represented the largest percentage of persons diagnosed with AIDS and persons with an AIDS diagnosis who have died.
Terminology is usually incorrectly used. Homosexuality means sexual attraction to members of the same gender. It has nothing to do with a particular gender. Any man or woman who is attracted to members of the same gender is at homosexual. "Gay" and "lesbian" are mostly gender specific terms (the former referring to men and the latter to women), although "gay" can be used to describe both genders. That's a po-mo- thing, though. Like "queer. "Butch" and "fem" are references to mannerisms. There are "butch" and "fem" people in both heterosexuality and homosexuality. It has nothing to do with gender or sexual preference. "Dyke" is a slang term for "lesbian." There. Communication problem solved.
OkCupid asked almost 300,000 about their sexual experiences - and found that 13 percent of men who identified themselves as STRAIGHT (!!!) have had a same-sex experience, and another 5 percent haven't yet but would like to. Moreover, it is important to note that the percentage of bi-curious men in the more advanced and tolerant Canada was far higher than in the U.S. =) Somebody still is willing to repeat the mantra that ALL straight guys do not want to watch gay sex? We can see that, at least 18% of straight men would not oppose to the inclusion of a gay scene in the straight porn, along with heterosexual and lesbian scenes. Back to women's interest in male-male sensuality. We’ve already discussed yaoi and slash. We can also see other examples. There is the All-European bestseller Spanish series Fisica o Quimica. In voting for the best couple in the series http://www.foqclub.ru/ a couple of guys Fer and David got more than 90%! There are dozens (maybe hundreds) of fan clips of Christian and Oliver from the popular German TV series Verbotene Liebe on youtube. I’ve never seen a single clip of hetero-couple from the same series! By the way the fact that girls are indifferent to porn is a myth. In this regard, I agree with Jobe, that the industry deliberately preserves the double standards, and suppresses male homoerotism. At the same time the only reason for homophobia is the taboo on male homoerotism! However, no one refuses to sell Gay DVD! Obviously because it brings a good profit.
Rosco, I meant that guys should be caressing for me! In the bisexual movies girl is used as a supplement. I want movies that take my interest into account.
"Gay, bisexual, and other men who have sex with men (MSM)1 represent approximately 2% of the US population" 2%? Ridiculuos! 5% is a minimum. Edited by - kvitka on 1/7/2011 4:09:50 PM Edited by - kvitka on 1/7/2011 4:26:38 PM
Why do gays and lesbians in show business can be scary, old, funny and generally unattractive, and bisexual coming-outs are based almost entirely on model looking girls that look as if they come down from the glossy magazine cover. It looks like old and unattractive bisexuals do not exist. We are sick and tired of this vile lie! Does anybody believe it? Why there are no coming-outs from young pretty guys?
Statistically, MtF transsexuals have almost as high an HIV risk as gay/bi males, yet there seems to be no problem integrating them into the "mainstream" porn industry. Oh, what a difference a boob-job makes! (/sarcasm)Hopefully, any movies he does for them will have _real_ sex, instead of just blowjobs. :-P5% of the _male_ population = 2.5% of the _total_ population. Sounds about right. Edited by - chaotic_23 on 1/18/2011 5:01:42 PM
the truth is making porn that sexualizes men will never work. I know we are suppose to be PC,but woman and men in the cultural context of America are fundamentally diferent when it comes to sexuality. The reason men are more stimulatted visually and thus the bigest consumers of porn,is because we cant have sex with every hot woman we see not even 10% of them. Porn gives us access,to woman and fantasies we will never have. Woman on the other hand have access to sex and also are taught not to neccarily rebel in naughty sexuality( which is why the male version of girls gone wild did not work) woman are more into charm and romance which is why they watch romance films and they are also intact more with their intimate side. Woman have access to way more sex in real life and thus are not gonna consume porn on nearly the level of men. hell an ugly fat chick on craigslist can charge decent looking guys for sex you think a hott chicks are gonna consume porn for 20.00 a month. Im not saying you cant make more porn for woman and grow the market,but it will never go beyond a niche market like bbw, transexual etc. just based off cultural reason. I wont get into a debate about the psychological differences regarding testorone in men and estrogen in woman
pornography wasn't sex but fantasies of an impossibly hospitable world 12377 Posts 9/07
Posted - Jan 19 2011 : 8:02PM
So much for gay porn! Seriously though, all porn is going niche, from what I've read g/g porn is doing much better than most 'straight' porn right now, despite the tube sites and downloading. The future of porn will be in finding those profitable niches for those who are willing to pay for better quality, and porn that appeals to women AND men will have a better chance of surviving.
There are hot guys in euro straight porn too. I am assuming it's because straight american porn is dominated by the porn valley trucker cabal where an actor has to be bald/fat/old/hairy/body builder/biker, or a combination of all of the above. Porn valley needs to go out of business, IMO. They can't produce anything worth viewing anymore. Even Vivid who has some hot girls that aren't tattoo freaks uses the same old tired male actors. Jesus. Call it a day guys. I think it really may only be a Porn Valley issue though. There are some smaller studios not in CA that do some good stuff. But it's easier to just go euro and be done with it. Those freaking russians put out some hot porn!!!!!!
There are hot guys in euro straight porn too. Really? Hot guys? Their names are not even mentioned. Neither the European nor American. Actually we discussed that girls like to look at sex between guys (of course zombie Christian women from Alabama aren't counted), It is as logical as the fact that guys like watching lesbian! Do not you think that most women prefer men? I'd say that this trend is totally ignored. Also it's obvious that huge percentage of straight men watch gay male porn. Yet another thing: these names Bisexual army, Bisexual navy, Bisexual apartment, Bisexual planet, Bisexual universe, Bisexual river, Bisexual forest, Bisexual mountain, Bisexual field ..... I'd say that even based on the picture on the title it is obvious what the movie is about!
Of course, if there's one porn-producing place where the standard of the (local) male actors is even lower than in Porn Valley, it's definitely Russia. They're either misogynist assholes, guys who can't stay hard for more than 30 seconds even in the presence of some of the cutest girls to roam this planet, or they're Timur Hardy and Oliver Strelly who - because nobody else exists outside the aforementioned two groups - seem to appear in 50+% of all scenes shot in Russia. Edited by - shalalin on 1/25/2011 10:48:37 AM
yeah that is somewhat true. but not in the more amateur stuff. and the girls are so un stripper like and smokin hot. i don't even notice the guys. the stuff i've seen features quite a few nice looking male talent. my g/f loves it. and she's the ultimate critic. she will not watch american factory porn. (she also hates rocco btw) but she loves euro and russian amateur porn. i guess it's economics 101. very good looking girls there will do porn. here it's strippers and fat chicks. pinky only does g/g? wtf? in europe pinky wouldn't be allowed to do porn! and if she was, she'd have to take ten midget pony dicks at once.
i was reading somewhere that pinky only does g/g now cause she's too good for b/g. i think that's amazing since she does nothing for me. she's short, chubby and unattracive, IMO. in europe the hottest girls will do hardcore everything. in europe they wouldn't even shoot pinky. unless she did donkeys or something. she's just forgettable. it's amazing that a completely forgettable girl can do porn here. but then again ass faced male talent works with tatted up crack head strippers in porn valley. do the math. i certainly don't get it..
Facts or opinions and taste? You've stated your opinion - you don't like thick women, no problem but a fact it isn't with regards to everyone else. I can't stand commercial beers but who am I to tell that redneck he's wrong for liking Bud and Miller? You make mention of Europe but did you ever stop to think that Germany and the United Kingdom rank almost as high as the US in terms of overweight people and I'm sure they have just as many chubby lovers. Just because some gay fashion critic in France says that uber thin is the way to go in the fashion world doesn't mean his opinion sets the standard for everyones taste. Peace and hair grease.
I'm with boogie. My "uh, what?" was rhetorical. I found the post unnecessarily insulting, and based entirely on your own preferences. I certainly didn't need a further explanation of the complex riddle you spat out.
If I may interject a bit. By no means I am an expert on this but I did work for 4 years in a adult film store in a small Northern European country. The thing at least here (a town of some 100,000 inhabitants) was that I do remember exactly one case wehere a female customer rented a bi or gay film. And even that was a case of a couple who used to purchase quite varied styles of porn (straight, bi, BDSM etc.). And even in that I'd say that some 95% of customers buying/renting porn were males. And it was also very rare for guys who mostly bought/rented straight porn to venture into bi or gay porn. Very rare indeed. The only substantial case I recall was a compilation of some John Holmes scenes which included a gay scene. But the selling point was obviously mr. Holmes. On the other hand, TS porn was 99.9% exclusively purchased by straight guys. And based on my personal experience discussing these things with women, none of them have expressed interest in seeing male/male porn. Granted, statistically a minuscule sampling but nevertheless.
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