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Gore Gore Girl  Doctor of the Erotic Arts  7238 Posts 1/09 |  Posted - Dec 10 2010 : 2:18PMI figure the Feature Side is an appropriate place for this... This happens to me a lot: conversation with someone online or in real life turns to porn, the person thinks the concept of plot/character-driven porn is funny, asks in disbelief about whether there are good films/what they should check out etc. So, this person is completely ignorant of what's out there, has certain stereotypes in mind, and probably assumes some level of degradation is involved (this has been my experience with people at least). Knowing they're only going to check out one film, perhaps, which one film do you tell them to pick up? And what's your rationale? For me, I always rule out anything with rape, no matter how good the film is or contextualized the rape is. I also rule out frivolous, fun stuff that's low on plot, no matter how great I think the flick is. At the same time, I rule out stuff that's super dark or depressing. Like it or not, I always feel a great weight of responsibility. For me, I usually suggest Talk Dirty to Me. I'd be interested in whether this happens to any of you, and how you think through your suggestion. [Link] |
| mcewan All-Star Member 1294 Posts 8/08 | Posted - Dec 10 2010 : 10:15PM [Link] |
| Gore Gore Girl Doctor of the Erotic Arts 7238 Posts 1/09 | Posted - Dec 10 2010 : 10:21PM [Link] |
| Nameless1 Member 165 Posts 10/10 | Posted - Dec 10 2010 : 11:18PM [Link] |
| mcewan All-Star Member 1294 Posts 8/08 | Posted - Dec 11 2010 : 2:54AM The thing about Wade Nichols he had three different careers pornstar,soap star and singer. He played that part of Detective Derrick Mallory on the Soap Opera Edge Of Night. Under the name of Dennis Parker he released a disco album from Casablanca which back in that era was like the main label I mean Donna Summer was one of the recording artist releasing records for them,his record was titled Like An Eagle.There some pretty cool youtube videos of him signing. For guy that was labeled taught for pay he sure looked at ease performing with the ladies just check out his scene with CJ Laing in Barbara Broadcast. My Favorite Male Performers: 1. John Leslie - Simply the best. 2. Richard Pacheco - Always an excellent supporting actor especially when working with John Leslie and could carry a film as a lead actor when called upon Irresistible is a great example of that. 3. Eric Edwards - An actor in four different decades an actor that could that could take over a film and keep your interest as well.Great sexual performer,he's a former male model so yeah he has it in the looks department as well,great actor and just came across as a very nice guy someone you would definitely want to meet and strike up a conversation with. 4. Jamie Gillis - One of the all around best he did theater so he could definitely act I loved the creepy seedy side of him,great sexual performer was known to get rough. 5. Joey Silvera - As good as he was it took him a while to get his just dessert and get the credit he was truly deserved,mostly because actors listed above.He was always a lot of fun to watch and one the hardest working guys in the industry working on both coast.Also I will always be extremely grateful to him for making Transgender videos acceptable I no longer had to look over my shoulder to see who was looking at me and I could make my way to the counter and make my purchase with ease I mean after all it's Joey Silvera and Evil Angel so it has to be cool. 6. Wade Nichols - Whenever he's in a film you know it means great acting,I need to get Maraschino Cherry. 7. Jerry Butler - What a great actor just see his amazing performance Snake Eyes,Star Angel,In Love,Great Sexpectations etc... Very out spoken and his book Raw Talent coast him some roles as well as his popularity at the time. 8. Peter North - When he came on to the scene the 80's he was an extremely rare commodity you just didn't see someone with his look,body and could shoot a load like he could.John Leslie when he first started directing he made the comment that he must have a hallow leg.He always kept himself in great shape. 9.Randy Spears - Great actor and performer and like a majority of the names listed above he can carry an entire film The Masseuse immediately comes to mind.He turned in an excellent performance in Bad Wives 2.He first came to my attention in the late 80's in the Bruce Seven video Loose Ends 5 & A.S.S. . 10.Rocco Siffredi - Legendary performer great actor as well John Stagliano's Fashionistas and in the mainstream movie Romance. 11.John Doe - Great actor,sad life 12.George Payne - The absolute best at being creepy. [Link] |
| Gore Gore Girl Doctor of the Erotic Arts 7238 Posts 1/09 | Posted - Dec 11 2010 : 9:55AM [Link] |
| john lyons Senior Member Co-founder of Vinegar Syndrome 1188 Posts 1/08 | Posted - Dec 11 2010 : 2:02PM The suggestions which have already been made are pretty good, though I'd disagree with the "no rape" thing. In fact, I'd readily recommend films like THE TAKING OF CHRISTINA to any skeptic of the artistic or narrative merits of "porn." If anything bothers me more than the whole "XXX movies can never have/only have shitty plots" mentality, it's the "all XXX movies depict women as enjoying subjugation/rape/torture/etc." Films like CHRISTINA do just the opposite, by making their rape scenes disturbing and uncomfortable. That said, I'm not gonna recommend JOY to a novice, but plenty of XXX films treat rape seriously and without the assumed "inherent turn-on" aspect of sex scenes in XXX films. So, with that said, some great introductory films are: 3 A.M. - One of the best XXX character driven melodramas ever made. Outstanding acting, excellent writing, beautiful cinematography and rich, Bergman-esque atmosphere. BACCHANALE - The best experimental sex film ever made; a low budget Fellini mixed with the camp of Kenneth Anger. BLONDE AMBITION - Lavish production design and delightful screwball comedy. CAFE FLESH - Best XXX sci-fi ever; excellebt direction and writing plus amazing set design. THE DANCERS - Maybe the finest screenplay ever written for XXX. DRACULA EXOTICA - On par with any mainstream Drac film. EXPOSE ME LOVELY - A genuinely suspenseful XXX Philip Marlowe type film. IN LOVE - All the style of a Hollywood epic. MEMORIES WITHIN MISS AGGIE - A carefully constructed story of loneliness and morality, brilliantly played by all and masterfully directed. NOTHING TO HIDE - Another incredible script performed by an exceptional cast. RAW TALENT - Edgy, new wave drama with amazing cinematography and editing plus great performances. ROOMMATES - The ultimate X rated "woman's picture" TAKE OFF - Already mentioned WANDA WHIPS WALL ST - Brilliant, witty comedy. One of the best, period. [Link] |
| Gore Gore Girl Doctor of the Erotic Arts 7238 Posts 1/09 | Posted - Dec 11 2010 : 3:12PM Re: the rape thing. I usually recommend the films that treat rape seriously after they've dipped their toe in, and then it would be films that treat the matter thoughtfully, like you point out (Roommates is a special exception -- I would recommend this to a first timer). Not only do people I talk to assume porn shows women enjoying rape, but they often think porn depicts women in pain and suffering for male spectatorial pleasure. I think the "rape" movies are best to watch after you've realised that porn isn't just about jacking off. Also, I wouldn't blame a woman if she never watched a porn movie again if her first exposure to it was something like Forced Entry or Water Power, even though I think both films are great. There's too much simplistic/reactionary cultural discourse surrounding porn to expect even an intelligent and analytical viewer to deal with those films as their first XXX experience. [Link] |
| BlackSix All-Star Member pornography wasn't sex but fantasies of an impossibly hospitable world 12377 Posts 9/07 | Posted - Dec 11 2010 : 8:35PM [Link] |
| Nameless1 Member 165 Posts 10/10 | Posted - Dec 11 2010 : 11:27PM Gore Gore Girl wrote: Yeah, exactly. The whole "who cares about a plot?" thing is typically men, in my experience -- I think to suggest you might enjoy a narrative hardcore film is some threat to a bro-culture masculinity or some shit. The thing is, a lot of those people will maintain the mocking attitude at the same time as wanting to know more. I always want to tell them to just calm down, admit they're interested, and have a normal conversation. This is easier online often, because they're less embarrassed. I also ask what subgenre they're looking for -- just by asking if they want horror, family saga, comedy, etc, makes them stop and think there must be more to it. [/quote] It is so true about the mocking but wanting to know more statement. That's kind of the vibe I get when trying to discuss things. Another thing I get is: Who watches porn for the plot? Uh, I do. But when you try to share or give some advice, reviews, whatever, it's just kind of disregarded. It's funny, because it's not like these people don't ever watch porn or anything, but it's almost like they have tunnel vision and they don't want to expand their viewing. There is a lot of cool stuff out there if people would just have an open mind and look into it. Edited by - nameless1 on 12/11/2010 11:28:32 PM [Link] |
| saratoga120 Senior Member 1404 Posts 5/05 | Posted - Dec 12 2010 : 3:53PM Well-known film critic of the time Judith Crist recommended the movie in a mainstream publication. Wasn't around for it at the time, so don't know which one it was, but Kelly and Samantha have both confirmed to me that such recognition did come its way. [Link] |
| picman Senior Member Nothing says I love you so much as a tongue in the ass. 2884 Posts 1/03 | Posted - Dec 12 2010 : 7:49PM [Link] |
| john lyons Senior Member Co-founder of Vinegar Syndrome 1188 Posts 1/08 | Posted - Dec 13 2010 : 10:38AM MASSEUSE (1990 version) MASSEUSE II BLUE MOVIE (Michael Zen) THE AWAKENING DARK ANGELS LOADED DARK ANGELS 2 CRY WOLF So yeah...Pretty much all Paul Thomas and Nic Andrews movies (with a weird Michael Zen flick thrown in there). [Link] |
| BustdownGal Member 539 Posts 7/06 | Posted - Dec 16 2010 : 7:56AM I've moved from recommending individual films to engaging people in a conversation. First notion I disavow them of is the idea of porn as storytelling medium. If they want a story, don't go to porn. Watching porn is like watching sports. Yes, a sports match *can* "tell a story", but it's secondary to the awesomeness of viewing physical movement. The grace of physical action is not something that I view as "lesser than." So I do not see porn or sports as something to look down your nose at compared to movies or theater. Because there's an undercurrent of classism when people engage in surface-level conversations about pornography. I want to dig deeper and expose this and the other issues hidden in shallow, workplace-friendly conversations about porn. Here on ADT, though, we get deep into it =) [Link] |
| BustdownGal Member 539 Posts 7/06 | Posted - Dec 16 2010 : 8:01AM 9 1/2 Weeks Body Heat Breaking the Waves Crash (the Holly Hunter one) Damage The Dreamers Eyes Wide Shut Frankie and Johnny Last Tango in Paris Legends of the Fall Mulholland Drive Romance Secretary Sex and Lucia Shortbus Splendor The Unbearable Lightness of Being Threesome Wild Orchid Y Tu Mama Tambien If someone were to ask me for some good theater, I wouldn't send them to an elementary school nativity play. I would send them to Broadway. Same for movies. Any pornographer who is a superior filmmaker is not a pornographer, he is a filmmaker. [Link] |
| BlackSix All-Star Member pornography wasn't sex but fantasies of an impossibly hospitable world 12377 Posts 9/07 | Posted - Dec 16 2010 : 9:40AM PS. Broadway sucks. Edited by - BlackSix on 12/16/2010 10:03:58 AM [Link] |
| BustdownGal Member 539 Posts 7/06 | Posted - Dec 16 2010 : 10:04AM To soften my edges let me state that I love pornography and some of my favorites are pornos you guys have listed above. But having battled on the front line (working with porn consumers) I had to become efficient and effective with this very question. The factor that we porn-lovers have to remember is that the porn newbie is coming from a world in which she conceptualizes "movie" as "a filmed story that took 5 years, 50 million dollars and a staff of 250 people to make." Even some indie movies (which take "only" 2 years, $500,000, and 50 people to make) get looked down at sometimes because there's no celebrities and it's not made by Pixar. I realize that you don't need all the above to tell a good story. Theatre proves that every day. But to do it on film adds a set of needed skills, and performing sex adds yet another set of needed skills. Creating art in the form of team storytelling just takes a lot of skills, and one can't underestimate the resources needed to pull that off. It's tempting to believe it's easy to make a good movie because we have access to so many. But it's not easy. So people actually have a valid point when they scoff at comparing a Wicked movie to a Darren Aronofsky movie. Pornographers concentrate on what we're good at: being sexual exhibitionists and exhibitors. This is a skill too that shouldn't be underestimated. So when I say it's tough to compare mainstream movies and porn, it's coming from a place of loving both, and appreciating the artisans in both. I also appreciate the skills of everyone involved in broadcasting a football game to my living room. But that is yet another form of entertainment that is separate from porn or mainstream movies. So comparing is like...oh...what do you call it when you compare 2 things that are in the same greater category but different subcategories? Ah yes! apples to oranges. [Link] |
| BlackSix All-Star Member pornography wasn't sex but fantasies of an impossibly hospitable world 12377 Posts 9/07 | Posted - Dec 16 2010 : 10:11AM I think those with a love for 70s American features and low-budget exploitation from the same era and earlier can usually 'get' xxx features. That is certainly a minority these days. [Link] |
| mcewan All-Star Member 1294 Posts 8/08 | Posted - Dec 16 2010 : 10:14AM Expose Me Now- Is a good one for laughs Starring Danielle Martin,Ron Jeremy,Herschel Savage and Richard Pacheco. Irresistible - Starring Richard Pacheco and Samantha Fox. Never So Deep - Starring Richard Pacheco,Paul Thomas and Loni Sanders in a film directed by Gerard Damiano on the West Coast (San Francisco). [Link] |
| T0MBOne Senior Member 1200 Posts 5/08 | Posted - Dec 16 2010 : 12:22PM In this forum, we often celebrate those directors whose bodies of work are mostly pornography. They are unique (we all have our favorites) and that's just the nature of the classics period that began in the early 70s and ended with the advent of video circa the mid 1980s. I recommend the better films in some social situations with De Rezny's BABYFACE tending to be the film most often mentioned. TABOO 2, next. [Link] |
| Gore Gore Girl Doctor of the Erotic Arts 7238 Posts 1/09 | Posted - Dec 16 2010 : 3:35PM And I like storytelling combined with hardcore sex (as well as nontraditional narrative porn, like gonzo etc), and there are hundreds of films that include both that I have enjoyed. Don't seem to be running out, either. I like low budget, trashy genres in general, feature porn included. I'll take any of my many, many favourite hardcore films over the next Aronofsky film. [Link] |
| Gore Gore Girl Doctor of the Erotic Arts 7238 Posts 1/09 | Posted - Dec 16 2010 : 6:01PM [Link] |
| BlackSix All-Star Member pornography wasn't sex but fantasies of an impossibly hospitable world 12377 Posts 9/07 | Posted - Dec 16 2010 : 10:06PM Edited by - BlackSix on 12/16/2010 10:07:22 PM [Link] |
| mcewan All-Star Member 1294 Posts 8/08 | Posted - Dec 16 2010 : 10:52PM I definitely want to see an uncut remastered version of Barbara Broadcast. [Link] |
| john lyons Senior Member Co-founder of Vinegar Syndrome 1188 Posts 1/08 | Posted - Dec 17 2010 : 11:05AM While you list a number of good softcore and "hard R" films, your primary XXX selection, SHORTBUS, is an overrated and pedestrian piece of designer "this is too good to be porn" style porn. If you're trying to argue quality "mainstream" films with XXX scenes, you'd be better off recommending movies like KEN PARK or IN THE REALM OF THE SENSES.Not sure what you're trying to prove/illustrate with this statement, but I'd agree with it, literally. I don't care about "pornography" or "pornographers," but rather serious filmmakers who make hardcore films. Sure, some people might consider the content of these films to be pornography, but as long as the filmmaker is serious about their art, I respect the integrity of their work. And, as other posters have already written, people like Damiano, Spinelli, Vincent and others are serious filmmakers. [Link] |
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| BlackSix All-Star Member pornography wasn't sex but fantasies of an impossibly hospitable world 12377 Posts 9/07 | Posted - Dec 18 2010 : 12:24AM Edited by - BlackSix on 12/18/2010 12:25:12 AM [Link] |
| Michael Saint Photographer Alexis Texas is always lovely 1062 Posts 2/01 | Posted - Dec 19 2010 : 7:29AM Not sure I would send anyone to an older porn movie. They don't tend to past muster for the younger viewers. A lot of what I would tell them would depend on who and why they are asking. While the "serious" ones are usually people's recommendations depending on who they are for some of the more comical ones may be more appropriate. It would also depend on what they call a good movie. Is it the videography or the acting or the story line. Remember this is a generation who thought things like the Blair Witch Project was great cinema. For me here goes: The Chameleon 1 and 2 Every Woman Has A Fantasy 2 Nothing To Hide 1001 Erotic Nights 1 The Massuese 2 The Secret Garden 1 & 2 (a two part story) Possibly: Pirates 1 and 2 (if they can handle the CGI that is not up to people's standards - for most people this would be a killer) Fashionistas (the first one) but only if it was for people who I thought could handle it. Not your typical ease into porn type of movie. The last two are probably the ones for the younger generation who have no attention span and want things to get going right away. As far as "going to the experts" to see a real movie with sex I find that kind of funny since a good deal of porn's videographers, directors, lighting people, etc work in mainstream as well. Some on some very big projects so they are the "experts". There is just a big difference in what you get when you have a 20 Million dollar budget and a 5,000 dollar budget. [Link] |
| john lyons Senior Member Co-founder of Vinegar Syndrome 1188 Posts 1/08 | Posted - Dec 19 2010 : 10:07AM But the irrational attitudes of the young shouldn't dissuade people from recommending great films that happen to be 25+ years old. [Link] |
| BlackSix All-Star Member pornography wasn't sex but fantasies of an impossibly hospitable world 12377 Posts 9/07 | Posted - Dec 19 2010 : 12:21PM [Link] |
| Gore Gore Girl Doctor of the Erotic Arts 7238 Posts 1/09 | Posted - Dec 19 2010 : 1:03PM [Link] |
| BlackSix All-Star Member pornography wasn't sex but fantasies of an impossibly hospitable world 12377 Posts 9/07 | Posted - Dec 19 2010 : 1:10PM [Link] |
| Gore Gore Girl Doctor of the Erotic Arts 7238 Posts 1/09 | Posted - Dec 19 2010 : 1:20PM I'm just trying to stick up for the youngsters -- I meet many vibrant and interrogative members of this denigrated population. Just trying to give props. (None of these individuals pointed at the Terminator poster in my office and said "that's a slow movie" -- I did have lots of "awesome!" remarks). [Link] |
| BlackSix All-Star Member pornography wasn't sex but fantasies of an impossibly hospitable world 12377 Posts 9/07 | Posted - Dec 19 2010 : 1:24PM [Link] |
| Gore Gore Girl Doctor of the Erotic Arts 7238 Posts 1/09 | Posted - Dec 19 2010 : 1:30PM [Link] |
| picman Senior Member Nothing says I love you so much as a tongue in the ass. 2884 Posts 1/03 | Posted - Dec 19 2010 : 2:22PM I think that the "classic era" in porn is vastly overrated as far as its filmic values, but the directors did strive to make actual films with sex in them, as opposed to the more formulaic stories and sex action that took hold in the video era when the industry was relieved of the pressure to make things appear "socially redeemable" for presentation in theaters. There's definitely something lost there, and I don't see it coming back. [Link] |
| Flash Golden Age Classic 11017 Posts 5/01 | Posted - Dec 19 2010 : 2:26PM Now to the point that I'm attempting to get to, without people around to steer me to the better titles and the availability to see them, I'm not sure that I ever would have grown the appreciation that I have for titles from this period. That may more be the reason these days that it appears that younger viewers don't get into these films. Yes, there are now forums like ADT and AV Maniacs where the films are discussed at great length, which didn't exist at all back then. However, I can see where asking for a film type and getting 30 different suggestions can be overpowering. Especially when some aren't available on DVD anymore and others have horrible picture and audio quality. Plus from what I've seen recently older titles have to almost be exclusively rented off the internet. I think it was easier when just one person was pointing going, try those then when 40 people say try all of these. Also, part of the enjoyment back then for me was actually looking through the titles he recommended. Poor box scans and small pictures hinder that ability, even though more boxes these days appear to actually represent the title inside, which wasn't always the case back then. He was more into the hokey fun titles than the more serious ones and you can see my first experimentation with them through my reviews on this site. Titles that off put me at first and in some cases shocked me I've now grown to have a greater appreciation for. If they had been my first adult film experiences with the classics though I could easily have seen myself never growing the appreciation that I now have for them. So to sum up my long rambling, I'm not so sure that it is really the younger viewers that is the problem but more the newer delivery systems for the material that causes the problem. [Link] |
| Michael Saint Photographer Alexis Texas is always lovely 1062 Posts 2/01 | Posted - Dec 19 2010 : 7:25PM What I was trying to say was that I really don't have a set recommendation list for someone who asks me "what is a good porn movie to watch". The list I generated were some of my examples of great ones but my taste and theirs are not necessarily compatible. I usually respond by asking why are they looking for one. Personal, with wife, with girlfriend (that actually makes a difference), age, etc. Also are there any limits (someone once told me they wanted one with no G-G in it - that is very limiting). Once that is out of the way I would ask them to give me some of their favorite movies and the names of the last few movies they saw and if they liked them. Recommending a movie like Talk Dirty To Me or Nothing to Hide to someone whose cinematic library does not go back farther then this decade will probably not get the results you desire, which is not necessarily to turn them into a porn nut but to at least show them there is some talent to be seen here. Recommending Operation Desert Stormy or Not (insert name here) to someone who dislikes things like Scary Movie or Dumb and Dumber probably won't work either. On the other had if their version of tense drama is Twilight or the latest Star Trek then 1001 Erotic Nights probably not doing it either. But if they have not missed a Halloween showing of Rocky Horror in the last 10 years then Cafe Flesh just might work. Sadly your average person doesn't seem to have much appreciation for older cinema, so it stands to reason they won't have much appreciation for older adult cinema either. I dictate my answer based on the input I get from them. [Link] |
| Gore Gore Girl Doctor of the Erotic Arts 7238 Posts 1/09 | Posted - Dec 20 2010 : 11:29AM [Link] |
| mcewan All-Star Member 1294 Posts 8/08 | Posted - Dec 21 2010 : 7:29PM Great Sexpectations Sexcapedes October Silk Devil In Miss Jones PT 2 She's So Fine [Link] |
| saratoga120 Senior Member 1404 Posts 5/05 | Posted - Dec 22 2010 : 7:27PM Has great performances by R. Bolla, Kelly Nichols, Chelsea Blake, and Paul Thomas, with a fast-moving script and a nasty look at dirty politics. [Link] |
| Gore Gore Girl Doctor of the Erotic Arts 7238 Posts 1/09 | Posted - Dec 22 2010 : 7:51PM Edited by - Gore Gore Girl on 12/22/2010 7:52:32 PM [Link] |
| Aplus Senior Member 1431 Posts 5/05 | Posted - Dec 22 2010 : 8:24PM [Link] |
| DuxRyu Member USA 44 Posts 11/06 | Posted - Dec 28 2010 : 4:40PM If you can find a feature porn film that gives you the same type of reaction as a mainstream movie that slides in a few intense erotic scenes, I'd love to hear about it. I believe it is this surprise element that makes my brain cells dance and loins, heh heh heh, vibrate, with pleasure. Make a porn that can incorporate an element of surprise and eroticism as Wild Things or even that dumb Eyes Wide Shut movie that isn't quite the same since about sex, and you'd have an AVN Winner for sure. Just my two cents why porn movies never conjur up a feeling of 'You must get this one, it's great.' [Link] |
| NicaNoelle Member 117 Posts 12/07 | Posted - Dec 28 2010 : 9:18PM Edited by - NicaNoelle on 12/28/2010 9:21:10 PM [Link] |
| BlackSix All-Star Member pornography wasn't sex but fantasies of an impossibly hospitable world 12377 Posts 9/07 | Posted - Dec 28 2010 : 10:51PM Eyes Wide Shut also didn't strike me as hot, most of the sex is intentionally cold and clinical, only the opening clever 'blink and you miss it' shot of Nicole Kidman's bum worked erotically for me. Similarly, the sex scenes in Wild Things are intentionally ridiculous, not hot, unless you mean that full frontal from Kevin Bacon out of the shower.  [Link] |
| saratoga120 Senior Member 1404 Posts 5/05 | Posted - Dec 29 2010 : 1:49PM She's still hot for him and saw him at John Leslie's service. [Link] |
| Gore Gore Girl Doctor of the Erotic Arts 7238 Posts 1/09 | Posted - Dec 30 2010 : 1:08PM [Link] |
| saratoga120 Senior Member 1404 Posts 5/05 | Posted - Dec 31 2010 : 6:27PM Smoke? Take it up the ass? Give herself over to more than one guy? Fuck Ron Jeremy? Lick the cum off the hed after it's exploded on her face? Get naked in front of a room full of people? Alright, mainstream, you can get your stars to smoke for us, but I frankly don't go into any of your movies with a great sense of anticipation that your lovely female characters are going to indulge a hundred other things I'd like to see them do. The best suspense films are all pornos. [Link] |
| ObiBong Senior Member 1162 Posts 12/02 | Posted - Jan 2 2011 : 1:20AM Also, I'm not looking to convince anyone that these are masterpieces, just that if they think an episode of Bones is a good use of an hour, they're not doing any worse by watching any of a half-dozen of Stormy's movies. If the person in question watched Sex and the City, she can surely appreciate Second Thoughts. Then there's the ulterior motive of name-dropping, because I can show them pictures of me and Stormy or tell them about my dinner with Devinn Lane. Also, one person I did this with played the cello, so I gave her Improper Conduct. Another way I might consider going someday is Porn Valley, which kind of takes on a pro-porn argument as its plot. That's kind of a different issue though. And of course, all of my examples are for women, which is also possibly a slightly different subject from the OP. [Link] |
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| Kink Williams All-Star Member Yeah Jeets! 809 Posts 8/13 | Posted - Jan 7 2016 : 12:22PM "Amanda by Night" - was one of the standards, so to speak, of the golden age. Moving ahead in time, one could suggest "Someone Else" (1992 - ish), which starred Ashlyn Gere (who had acting chops) and Mike Horner (who dates back to the golden age). Enough of a story line that many can relate to. Not Bad. Plenty of sex scenes in there for the porn fan. Goin back in time again, a lot of Jennifer Welles's films from the 70's were pretty good. I can remember a sex and sleuthing flick from 1976 that I caught one time on pay TV in the mid '80's. I can't find it in her filmography, though. Looked in a bunch of places. It's gone. Jennifer had a bit of crossover in the 70's, including a part in The Groove Tube with Chevy Chase. think he banged her??? sorry...  [Link] |
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