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I'd gladly help out with the costs of testing for any of those performers who have proven responsible during this whole ordeal.

that's if they are even wanting to jump through all those hoops. I suspect the more well known in the biz will still prefer to wait for an all clear. But that day may not come for quite some time.

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1) Legalporno is not a studio. It is a publishing platform for many independent studios.

2) Most of those studios are being very intelligent about this situation and doing all the right things. They're not shooting and they're not planning on shooting. This includes all of the studios owned directly by Legalporno's parent company.

3) Some other studios are not doing this. You want me to say the name, fine, I'll say the name. Giorgio Grandi is shooting. At this point, it has become obvious. I disagree with his decision and I think it's a bad idea. He should absolutely be taken to task over it.

4) However... I don't think you should direct your criticism at Legalporno, at least not yet... not unless & until they begin to publish the content he has been shooting during the lockdown, which they haven't done (yet). He does sell content to other parties, albeit not often, but he does do it. Let's wait and see if that happens here before we criticize LP. Okay?

5) Your sources are not exactly impartial. If you're relying on Porn Wikileaks of all places for your porn news, it's time to get a new source. I daren't light the powder keg of flame warring that is the legendary (and never-ending) "Pierre Woodman vs. Legalporno" deathmatch, but I think it's fair to say that both parties have a significant bias against each other, so neither side can be considered an impartial source on this topic either.

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2) Nobody said the majority of studios were ignoring the advice or conspiring to do so.

3) Yes, that has been established here that there are studios ignoring their better judgement. There was even a moderator at ADT calling them out suggesting they don't shoot at all.

4) I have no quarrel with content being published - I can't name a compelling reason not to publish content as post-production and publication are processes that don't require people in close proximity to each other. It's the shooting of content with non-cohabiting sexual partners and crew that comes across as irresponsible.

5) "Bias" is a lazy way to discredit the credibility of any publication. Not being impartial doesn't automatically deny the veracity of a statement or accusation. It might bring it into question but it doesn't mean the statement isn't true when there is evidence to back it up. I would have linked Barbie's tweet directly but it had been deleted before I could post it here.

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I know it is factual that Giorgio is shooting during the lockdown. My point is that you should criticize Giorgio, not LP.

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I appreciate the nuance difference between being a content producer and being a content buyer but ultimately there is very little difference except that it gives an out to the content buyer when the producer does shitty things, That out sort of disappears if the content buyer keeps on doing business with the content producer.

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It is allowed because it was listed as an "essential service" in the state of Florida, and as far as I know it has only been allowed in Florida and nowhere else.

The governor's explanation for the listing of wrestling as an "essential service" was highly dubious, as you might expect. He basically argued that people would be too bored without it.

Seriously, just read this shit. https://www.vox.com/2020/4/15/21221948/florida-wwe-essential-service-ron-desantis-vince-mcmahon-coronavirus

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Once a reliable Antibody test is established and mass produced, you test the population and those who test positive for antibodies can get certified to carry on working. He then went on to explain why we aren't already doing that (uncertainty around tests, antibodies, long term effects, and ramifications of people who will infect themselves intentionally)

Ill have to try and find the interview, but it just struck me that funny that those in porn are now being regarded as leading experts in the field of pathogen testing.

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1) Legalporno is not a studio. It is a publishing platform for many independent studios.

2) Most of those studios are being very intelligent about this situation and doing all the right things. They're not shooting and they're not planning on shooting. This includes all of the studios owned directly by Legalporno's parent company.

3) Some other studios are not doing this. You want me to say the name, fine, I'll say the name. Giorgio Grandi is shooting. At this point, it has become obvious. I disagree with his decision and I think it's a bad idea. He should absolutely be taken to task over it.

4) However... I don't think you should direct your criticism at Legalporno, at least not yet... not unless & until they begin to publish the content he has been shooting during the lockdown, which they haven't done (yet). He does sell content to other parties, albeit not often, but he does do it. Let's wait and see if that happens here before we criticize LP. Okay?

5) Your sources are not exactly impartial. If you're relying on Porn Wikileaks of all places for your porn news, it's time to get a new source. I daren't light the powder keg of flame warring that is the legendary (and never-ending) "Pierre Woodman vs. Legalporno" deathmatch, but I think it's fair to say that both parties have a significant bias against each other, so neither side can be considered an impartial source on this topic either.
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It's a bit easy to say that !!!

When people are working on behalf of WGCZ who own GTFlix aka Legal Porno as Giorgio Grandi and Joachim Kessef IT'S IMPOSSIBLE THEY WILL TALE THE RISK TO BE FIRED OF THEIR SITUATION BY SHOOTING WITHOUT AN AGREEMENT FROM THEIR BOSS !!!

Who could trust in 2020 when the regular porn industry is so weak and be a producer is so difficult, any man having a secure job like them will take any risk ???
When the people who did the "mistake" to pusblish after the March 15th. 2020 on social medias various pictures telling " shooting for Legal Porno today" it's because they knew the logo on their videos will not be " Brazzer " or " Woodman" !!!
In Budapest and Prague all productions have been officially stopped on March 15 but when you read this :

you understand that as always they don't care !!!

and please don't say it's because I have a personal problem with them, I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH ANYONE WHO PUT MY LIFE AND OTHERS LIFE IN DANGER !!!

It has always been like that since the day this company arrived in the industry ... to refresh your memory they hide various times syphilis cases, said always I was a liar but last year on January 10. 2019 "boum" the world found out they have hidden 2 syphilis cases since december 13.2018. So from January 16 all agencies requested a syphilis outbreaks that of course everyone was supposed to do. But again WHO SAID THEY DON't CARE ???
The company from where came the problem ... It's just insane !!!

Again the same words and they never see any reason to stop !!! So what do they need to find a reason to stop ???

Stephan P. the owner of WGCZ/ GTFlix is suing me because he says that I give a bad image to his company, but sincerely who else in this profession has shown so little respect for these fellows since pornography exists ???

WGcz = Xvideos and we all know what that means when you are like me a producer who spends his money to see his work distributed for free on the net. But when one of their subsidiary GTFlix creates a site like Legal Porno we are far from a Mindgeek with Brazzer. I've never heard for instance of Brazzer 0.01% of everything that is said about Legal Porno since 2012.
The world is witnessing via social networks all the problems linked to the various health scandals and also payments which many people have complained about concerning LP.
But each time there was the same attitude of the boss:
"Sorry it is not us, we are not a studio, we use the work produced by studios working for us"
But everyone knows that neither Giorgio or any other producer who belongs to this group goes to the toilet without asking Stephane which paper he has the right to use to wipe his ass !!!
And even if it were true, why after all these scandals none of them has ever been fired ???
My personal opinion is that money is the only thing that matters to all these people and that the health of their competitors has no importance for them, they have proven it many times, and again NOW in the middle of the Coronavirus crisis with, at this minute, 3.2 million people infected and 230,000 dead, when there is an official COVID-19 OUTBREAK in porn industry, they are able to produce scenes with 4 performers on a girl and then WRITE on their forum that they see no reason not to work !!!

But of course I am one of the rare person to tell it because I'm an independent producer and I'm not scared of them, so I am the bad guy in the story, as always ...

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If and when LP actually publishes content that was shot during the lockdown, it will be fair to criticize them for it.

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The plan was to take an extended vacation from work, go on this Eurotrip, shoot like crazy for about a month (as in, 2-3 scenes per day)... and then go back home, continue working at my job for a little while, and see how it all panned out financially. I would have decided whether to come back full-time based on that.

It's a pretty big life decision, and I never would have made it lightly, but there's no way I could have been prepared for this... so maybe, in retrospect, it was better for me that this happened when it did, before I had a chance to abandon my current reliable source of income.

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Problem in my opinion, as for people like me who did not get it, even if the model coming to the room + the my team is tested, it means anyway I will have to go in hotel and public areas where there will be some risk of exposure anyway.
So I think until virus will not be fully eradicated, for all "old man" like me ( LOL ) better stay home !!!

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30 years of porn ( 1989 - 2019 ) what else ???

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IgM and IgG are two different type of Immunoglobulins ,they're antibodies

the only known test able to say if someone has some active vius in his body is the swab ,it finds out whether the RNA of the virus is in someone's blood. The swab can't say if someone already had COVID-19 and recovered , it will only say if he's currently a danger , It can give a false positive if someone recovered but has parts of the virus RNA that are no more virulent still circulating in his blood

In a Recovery for Elders in Italy there was a host who tested negative at the quick test , he was tested again three days later before acceptance, still negative , he was then accepted . A week later some other hosts in there got sick, the quick test and then the swab revealed it was COVID-19 , they couldn't understand how the hell it got in , those hosts were in there a long time but the new one , then they quick tested that first patient for a third time and the result was positive and the swab confirmed positive

the quick test gave a false negative twice in a row on the same subject

that test is particularly useful to find the positives to quarantine them and remove them from around so that they can't infect anybody even if it's a false positive it's not big deal it won't put anybody in danger anyway, but a false negative it's another whole thing, and it's a dangerous one

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All these politicians and medical saying we have to close this, close that, close everything... are all in secure, highly paid government employment. I.e. it's not going to affect them.

Here's a question an economist would ask: of all the people that are now losing their jobs, what number will never work again?

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the potential for death from inaction was a known known
the potential harm from lock down is a known unknown

Everyone's been blaming scientists, experts and media for blowing it out of proportion and causing widespread panic. I find that the Economists are the ones scaring everyone! When choosing between lives and livelihoods governments resoundingly have made up their minds that lives are more important. Economy's can be rebuilt, or bounce back. Your dead relatives and neighbors are gone forever.

BTW: I'm an essential worker and have been taking every precaution possible, remaining isolated in my vehicle while on duty, going straight home when off duty, wiping surfaces, washing hands, wearing masks and yesterday started experiencing symptoms. Going to get tested today.

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So why not listen to the WHO that now sees Sweden as a model for how to deal with the pandemic? The alternative is to lock down the whole wold for about two years.

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I've copied part of your comment to the WN&N The Coronavirus Thread and made a response there.

^3 Oevidis: I've moved your comment to there too.

As per Flash, everyone, let's move these discussions to there.

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