Just my opiniion of course

-PornoPunK

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Edited by - aiden on 3/17/2005 7:36:28 PM

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But you can't be nice 24/7, and if you go up to a performer and don't get the level of politeness you would have expected, remember that you may be the 100th person today. Everybody needs a break sometimes. And, of course, we all know what nuisance some fans can be like....

BTW, I think what Nina Hartley does in the interview is generalizing. You shouldn't feel insulted if you as a person don't fit in in her description. After all, she doesn't know you personally...

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For this instance, one end of the spectrum would be performers that don't like, or don't care for their fans and think them a nuisance. At the other end are those that like their fans very much and seek feedback and/or interaction from them.

The title to the thread, "Porn Stars Do No Like Their Fans!" is a broad generalized statement, and is wrong by the very nature of the broad brush that it paints performers with.

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Fans who should get a life, are not restricted to the habitate of porn (and science fiction) fandom either.

I remember hiking in the mountains, when a German actor of some fame was approached by some 60+ year old groupies.
A pack of teenage girls meeting a New Kid from the block would have acted in a more civilised manner, I guess.

Boy, I would have understood if he killed 'em, but he stayed friendly. I mean you go into the mountains to enjoy a little bit of quietness and distance from the world.

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Honestly I don't care if a porn star respects the fans or not. If their rude to fans or if it shows up in the performances word gets around and their marketability drops to nil and they disappear.

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side note:
I met Jerome Bettis at the mall and he signed 2 autographs for me and got mobbed by kids and spent like 2 hours signing shit and being shoved about.

I met Dion Sanders when I was a kid and he was at FSU. He was a total prick and made a kid cry. I hate him. A lot. I have rooted against him in any team he played on. I smile when he gets hit.

I hold my bettis autograph anytime the steelers play.

new list
BellaDonna
Devinn Lane
Ava Devine
Isabel Ice
Julie Night
Ariana Jole

Edited by - kami on 3/17/2005 10:19:17 PM

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Like anywhere in this F'd world, there are good and bad people, regardless of occupation or status.

What you learn in life is that you associate yourself with people you are drawn towards, and who are drawn towards you. If it doesn't work, move on with no hard feelings.

BTW: Kami, I've tried contacting you several times and you never got back to me!. &#@*!

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2.) Some do and some don't, just like any entertainer (movies, music, athletes, whatever people want autographs for).

3.) A person has a right to their own life. Some days fans intrude too much.

4.) Nobody should spend much time worrying about how others see them. With obvious exceptions (boss - year end review, customer base, etc.) it will impact life little.

5.) Most fans or customers never meet porn stars and probably don't think about it. They rent/buy based on looks or action. In other words, they don't think about the porn star as a person, just an image on video. Why would this not be returned by some?

6.) Every industry with female 'icons' spawns divas/bitches. Just part of the territory. Shouldn't label every woman in that industry that way.

7.) Do the people at McDonalds love each and every customer?

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or maybe im just another bitch pornstar who hates her fans?

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This comment seems to imply that Nina is among the porn stars who dislike their fans and regard them as a "necessary evil." As a regular visitor to Nina's site, you can't possibly believe those are her opinions. Contact with the public is one of the real pleasures of Nina's career. She's correctly regarded as one of the most fan-friendly performers in the industry. Over the years, she has developed many lasting friendships with viewers of her work and never passes up an opportunity to give full credit for her success to their love and loyalty. Frankly, I see nothing in the Playboy quotation that supports any allegation to the contrary.

To portray her views otherwise is simply inaccurate and, in this case, genuinely hurtful.

Any of the literally tens of thousands of fans who have met Nina personally will testify to the warm welcome she invariably extends to them all.

If you're looking for a porn star who doesn't like her fans, you've got the wrong girl.

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Kami, suprisingly, picked me out of a freakin' crowd this January without ever seeing me in person before. I agree with her that Isabel Ice is about as nice a pornstar as you're ever going to meet. Adorable, that one.

Not all pornstars hate their fans. In fact, I'd wager the majority of them don't. But I'm sure there's a certain TYPE of fan that they all hate and who can blame'em? I do, too.

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I love porn, but I 've never understood pornstar groupies. Some guys travel across the country and spend hundreds of dollars just for an autograph. I understand doing that if your going to a concert or sporting event were you can actually see the performers in action. Once again, I'm not saying people should blow off conventions. If your into that sort of thing, go for it. Just try to keep things in prospective. If you spend the time and money to meet these pornstars, is it really their fault if they're not what you expect them to be. After all, porn is fantasy...

-PornoPunK

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But, you know, it's give and take, and a lot of people think it's mostly about take. You don';t have to be a slavering fanboy, just treat people with respect and intelligence like you would if you met someone at a party and you have something in common to talk about. Just because it's porn doesn't mean as a fan you have to act stupid (though, gee, there's a lot of slack for that, too).

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Oh, check your mail.

Edited by - ejac on 3/17/2005 11:23:53 PM

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Kimi I wish people realized what you said. I hate when people go "If she was smart she would post more" gar

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Does that maybe describe you?

I think the problem lays in the fact that Nina was most likely describing THREE types of porn fans, not two.

1- no life
2- likes to masturbate
3- watches porn with significant other

Oh- and I think, for me, CJ hit it perfectly. I think that a lot of porn girls are OK with their fans, but that there is a certain type of unbearable, truly obnoxious porn fan that kind of grates on all of us.

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Drink among friends and to be happy, but don't let things get to you.

I explained everything (I hope) in my message.

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I don't understand why people have to be so animalistic to down others.

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Its 1015pm in Vancouver...Waiting til 11pm B4 I head out to the Club for some $2 Corona!!




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When i started reading from the top i wanted to write a few things. But as i went along a lot of good points had been said by others. I just want to add this. Porn conventions are usually not held in my area. So if i actually wanted to see a "star" in person i would have to travel a lot of miles to go there. But what would i gain from this ? The few times i´ve been to "autograph" signings in my area i can count with my fingers and toes. Those "gatherings" mostly were like this or like a "feeding the pigs" kinda event. You couldn´t talk to the girl more than "what name" she was supposed to write on the autograph. I stoped going there at all. The best meetings i can think of were when i met Gina Wild and Laura Angel. While Gina visited an Erotic Store Laura was at a sales event at a wholesaler. I actually could talk a few minutes to them and both had been very friendly. If only i had a camera with me ...

Porn is fantasy made by people and a lot off this fantasy can get ruined on conventions. That´s why i´m not visiting any anymore + a few other reasons . If you don´t have a life and the "few" things get destroyed too what more is there ?

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@ Kami

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Edited by - cubesnake on 3/18/2005 1:36:02 AM

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But then again, who gives a damn whether she hates her fans, but she sure is physically HOT!! (the physicality, not the personality) which is all that really matters to me)...

Eric

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My $.02...
Eric

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So far as outrageously broad generalisations go, I think that Nina was probably right on the mark. However, we all know that broad generalisations are not worth the crappy magazines they are written in!

It is the blurred lines and the shades of gray that make life so interesting - in fact I make it a point to avoid classification as part of any identifiable group of individuals!

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And, +1 for Kimi, as usual.

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But as I had the chance and honor to meet a few foreign actors, listen folks, Steve Holmes is the best man on this planet when speaking of porn fans. He is so nice and has a great personality. He loves his fans, thats absolutely true.

Speaking of types of porn fans I would classify myself as non-regular watcher who enjoys watching the porn, who likes
pretty nice girls...etc

Watching the porn is a way of relaxing for me.

I watch porn mostly because its funny and I can relax from hard work, everydays life rush etc. Im definitely NOT always masturbating nor even jerking off while watching. Of course sometimes I do.

Additionally I like the whole bussiness, watching movies and keeping an eye on it, keeping myself informed, being updated etc,. - its a part of my hobby.
I like it, I like ppl doing this bussiness, I like watching nice girls,...etc.
And surely I have the favorites which I always dont hesite to give them a credit.

Thats all why Im here!
Peace!

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but seriously there are a lot of people even on this fourm that I don't want to address, if I was in the business I sure as hell wouldn't want to meet them.

I've been writting quite awhile now even though I'm still young and I've made friends of a few women who I did interviews with while they were still making film. I still talk to them to this day and only occasionally have they remembered how we started talking and how long it's been.

it's all about who you are and how you present yourself. I'm not saying you can make life long friends with a woman in the adult business, but just like life being yourself and being honest is always the way.

among the women I'd love to meet would be Tricia D. so I can ask her for job I love being an engineer, but damn how could I turn down working for the Empire would LOVE to meet Kami Andrews and see if that smile is as beautiful in real life as it is on film. Belladonna so she can sign my copy of The Fashionistas , and yes Tricia you can sign it too
Arianna Jollee so I can tell her that face to face that she isn't a "filthy Jew," and whoever said that about her she shouldn't give any thought to. and of course I'd enjoy meeting Ms. Hartley to have a sit down and talk with her on her life and career.

maybe that makes me a crazed fan too, but I've got a string of people I'd enjoy meeting both dead and alive. so does that make me a crazed porn fan or just crazed in general?

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But for porn personally i can`t say...i watch porn when i am alone, to have so personal pleasure, its better than nothing...but i don`t care much about how they are in real life, i don`t identify myself to porn actor or actress lol they go on camera, suck, fuck etc and i ejaculate and thats it, its done.

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