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sickguy
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Posted - Dec 17 2008 : 3:29PM
Is there anyone out there that knows a place where you can send some porn that you have on vhs to convert on to DVD?
I have two movies that I like on vhs and don't have a vhs player anymore so would like to convert them to dvd. There are some places that do it in my area but I don't want to be bringing porn to these places....
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Bill All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Dec 24 2008 : 3:05PM
It's not that hard to do yourself. You can get something like the DVD Xpress DX2 for about $50 (after rebate) to allow you to record from your VCR to your PC. Then using DVD authoring/burning software, such as Nero, you can convert the copied file on your PC to a format suitable for burning onto a DVD.
Even though you no longer have a VCR, it's probably cheaper to buy one for the purpose of converting the tapes that you want than it would to get someone to convert the tapes for you.
Edited by - Bill on 12/24/2008 3:06:25 PM
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Posted - Dec 24 2008 : 3:20PM
If you're going to buy a VCR, you might as well buy a VCR/DVD-Recorder combo. PC Editing is a royal pain in the ass. IMHO, of course.
But, if you're looking for a hobby, it's not a bad one to mess around with. Just get a big hard drive.
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Jordan1
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Posted - Dec 25 2008 : 7:55PM
Just a little tip. If possible, try to use a S-video cable instead of a RCA (yellow) video cable. If you don't, your quality will be greatly reduced.
I'm not sure about which method you're going to use, but the method I use needs a VCR that has a S-video Input & Output. My computer has Input & Output S-video ports just for this sort of thing and my editing software does the rest.
I've converted numerous VHS content to a DVD with Chapters etc., and was surprised that the finished product was actually a little better quality than the original. That all-important S-video cable made a huge difference.
I purchased mine from Pacific Radio 969 N. La Brea Ave Hollywood, CA 90038 a couple of years ago and it costs about $20 a piece. The only reason I'm mentioning this is because I've tried several other S-video cables from various places and this particular one transfers and shows the best quality of all the others I've ever tried.
I don't have the info on it, so here's a scanned pic of it. It's I've never seen an S-video cable that looks like this one and they're the only ones I know of that sells it. It's length is 12ft.
S-Video cable.jpg
 
Jordan1
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Posted - Dec 26 2008 : 1:09PM
By the way, I forgot to mention that most VCR's do not have an S-video Input so back-in-the-day if you needed to dub something from another source (DVD player or Playstation 2) to VHS because DVD recorders were insanely expensive at the time, you were shit outta luck and would have to use the greatly inferior RCA (yellow) video jack.
The VCR I use is a JVC HR-S3901U (Black). The HR-S3910U is silver. I don't know if it's still available as I purchased the two I have in 2002 & 2003. (You only need one for this sort of thing). I bought an extra one because it performed so well I wanted a back-up in case it failed years later and used it in conjunction with an elaborate set-up I devised with my Home Theater System.
In fact, in a couple of weeks I'll be using it again for some content my brother needs me to transfer to DVD. The built-in VHS/DVD recorders are fine I guess. I've never used one, but have only one anecdotal experience where a friend used one and the quality wasn't to his liking.
I then used my method and the quality was better and he loved the result. Yes it's old school technology, but it works pretty damn well.
Obviously if you don't have a computer that has an S-video Input and software to convert it and make Chapters etc., another method is in order.
BigBobxxx
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Posted - Dec 26 2008 : 2:35PM
I have done VHS-to-DVD transfers in every way imaginable.
From VHS to computer (via high-quality hardware based conversion)... a pain in the ass,
From VHS to DVD recorder (separate boxes)... sometimes Macro-Vision causes quality issues,
and
Using an all-in-one VHS/DVD recorder with copying capabilities.
By far, the easiest way is the all-in-one VHS/DVD recorder. And, the quality can be superb, as well.
This is the option that seems the best for you, IMHO.
I bet there are very good deals in the stores this week, as they dump Xmas overstock.
Buy a high-end product!
Don't buy the cheaper stuff.
I'm using a Panasonic DMR-EZ48V ($250-$300).
This is one of the few units that also comes with a built-in tuner for both analog and digital (so it will be useful to you for more than just copying). Be aware that most machines being sold today have no built-in tuners!
You can easily burn DVDs and "finalize" them on this machine -- as a stand-alone -- should you desire to.
Once you have your VHS transferred onto DVD, you can play with it further on a computer should you desire to.
But, it is not necessary if all you want is a good DVD copy of your VHS movies to do so.
Note: I had typed a whole lot of information regarding using your compuer to edit DVDs, but decided to delete it as it gets very close to discussing techniques that could possibly aid those so inclined to make illegal copies of copyrighted material -- which we don't do here on ADT
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Posted - Dec 26 2008 : 3:16PM
I use the DX2 myself and it works great. You can choose the quality of the image you are capturing and edit it as well.
DrP0rn0
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Posted - Jan 7 2009 : 10:48PM
While I am certain that you are posting this because you believe it, I have a hard time accepting it. Why? Because VCRs store video as composite video. Let's back up for a second. S video cables carry a Y (luminance or brightness) and a C (chrominance or color) signal individually. Composite video combines Y and C into a single channel by quadrature modulating the two signals together. VCRs don't have access to Y and C separately: They are combined on the tape.
The reason that S-video generally looks better from DVD is that the TV doesn't have to take the composite video and break Y and C back out of it: It's already done as DVD stores video as (roughly) RGB and can easily synthesize Y and C from them. The process of breaking Y and C apart from composite video is done with a comb filter; these are hard to make with high quality.
So there's essentially no purpose to having an S-video output on a VCR, as it does *not* store Y and C. It stores composite video. The only way that S-video from a VCR will look better than standard composite video, is if the comb filter in your VCR is superior to the comb filter in the device you are sending the signal to. This might be a TV, or a video capture card. I suppose if you have a really high end VCR and a really crappy video capture card, this might be the case. As you said in another post, VCRs with S-video are very rare. There's a good reason for that. :)
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Posted - Jan 7 2009 : 11:40PM
That's not correct. While both the Y & C signals are recorded on the single tape, they are not stored as composite video. If you’'re using two pieces of equipment which are both able to handle S-video, it’s generally better to use their S-video connectors (with a suitable cable) as this will almost always give better picture quality. This applies particularly with VCRs and camcorders, where the video is actually recorded on tape as separate luminance and chrominance signals. It's less true with laserdisc players, where the video is in fact recorded on the laserdiscs in composite format.
DrP0rn0
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Posted - Jan 8 2009 : 11:08AM
Well damn, I guess I'm wrong. I hate it when that happens: I spout off about something technical only to find out all my effort was wasted because I remembered wrong.
I must have been remembering laserdisc. This S video thing was a frequent topic of discussion years ago. Again, I must have been remembering discussions of comb filters in LD players versus the ones in TVs.
Sorry for the distraction.
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Bill All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Jan 8 2009 : 9:21PM
I always argued on the side of the Laserdisc player since it was always the higher end Laserdisc players that had S-Video outputs (at least that was the case when I bought my Laserdisc players, which was relatively early).
DrP0rn0
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Posted - Jan 9 2009 : 2:24PM
This thread seems dead, so I guess this digression isn't hurting anything...
Yeah, that was the conventional wisdom at the time. ...and with my Pioneer 7 hex (I think 703?) player, which was pretty high end, the s-video output looked better than composite on my 27" tube TV. But when I got a more modern 61" RPTV, composite actually looked better than s, presumably because the comb filter in the TV (which was something like 12 years newer than the player) was better than the comb filter in the LD player.
It also showed me just how crappy the resolution (and/or transfers) of LD was, and pretty much put the last nail in the coffin on that player for me. DVD had it beat by a wide margin at that point. I sold the player and tried to give away the discs, but no one wanted them. Gee, imagine that. [:P)]
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Jordan1
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Posted - Jan 11 2009 : 4:50PM
Bill, thanks for the info. I have been busy and hadn't logged in for a few days. You saved me the headache of finding evidence to prove what I posted is accurate.
As a matter of fact, the VCR I mentioned earlier is a special Super VHS player that has a built-in tuner and quality enhancing features which aides in making the final product higher quality than the original.
I believe that I must have all of the correct tools in place for this to be accomplished: VCR, cable, computer, software.
Dr Porno, I highly respect a person who makes a mistake and acknowledges it. We're all humans and these things happen. Heck, I made a big one myself!! Check this out from another thread. You and others here may be greatly familiar with this blunder! It all started with the second post which was my first in the thread. Can anyone say foot in mouth?
https://forum.adultdvdtalk.com/forum/topic.dlt/whichpage=1/topic_id=126987/forum_id=5/cat_id=1/126987.htm
P.S. I'm sure you'll find the thread very interesting with a lot of keeper pics to boot if you haven't already been through it.
Heretic
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Posted - Jan 11 2009 : 6:10PM
I like standalone hardware for video encoding, rather than tying up a PC for hours on end, at least for the initial capture. Something like the Sony VRD-MC series looks good if you want to end up with a DVD you can play on a DVD player at the end. Probably overkill for only two tapes though.
 
ninja1
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Posted - Jan 24 2009 : 9:44PM
How does the (quality of the) encoding from a standalone VCR/DVD combo unit compare to the encoding from a DVDXpress type of converting box? Assume I'll willing to endure the aformentioned "hassle factor" and wait times etc.
Jordan1
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Posted - Jan 28 2009 : 5:46PM
Just back to fill ya'll in. I converted the content for my brother and it came out fine. It was funny as hell watching the content I converted of us playing pickup (touch) football in the early 80's. I was a lot quicker and better receiver than I realized! After watching the footage of myself catching passes and the runs after the catches, I should have tried to go pro. I'm not kidding!
Now back on topic, since I've never used a standalone DVD/VCR recorder combo, I would like to know what you guys do when/if you wanted to make Chapters on the converted content.
Are you saying that there is an option with this unit (and probably others) that allows you to capture and send it to a computer for editing? Also, what do mean by "Probably overkill for only two tapes though."
I combat this problem by sending the conversion destination to my external hard drive.
As a side note. I also disconnect from the Internet, (to prevent updates & resource drag) and shutdown all non-essential programs, especially antivirus/spyware programs as these tend to be the biggest resource hogs on a computer.
I try to get my CPU and PF Usage found in the Task Manager as low as possible before I start to capture/edit.
I found the best way to do this is to restart the computer first and not open anything. I shut down the non-essential programs via the System Tray.

Edited by - jordan1 on 1/28/2009 5:51:24 PM

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