Less identical crap, more sleaze and bush! 2378 Posts 7/09
Posted - Jul 10 2013 : 3:21AM
I don't live in your country but even I can see that is a ridiculous argument.. centuries of inequality and discrimination ended now one guy has the top job. Completely ignoring the ongoing massive household median wealth disparity and the resulting poverty and crime, and then the massive sentencing disparity on relevant crimes. 18 months ago now but perhaps still relevant, as noted by others including killbillvol69 some very good points on the porn issue were raised by NicaNoelle in The Black Racism In Porn thread Just sick of this derailing even locking threads (Would You Like To See Malena Morgan Do B/G Porn?), and may not happen but perhaps we could have a single racism thread, where if people feel the need they can discuss the facts and merits of a particular male or females racism to their hearts content, and keep the rest of the forum free of it.
Thank you Kill Bill. Also, I certainly didn't mean to send this thread in the direction of bi-curious performers. I honestly thought that I would be recommending a male talent member to Ms. Falcon (as well as tangentally hitting on the original subject matter with Mr. Hammer being both black and cultured) and the thread would go back to discussing racism. Apologies to the OP.
The Brazilian was the male performer who used the "monkey" word. He appears to be retired now, if there is such a thing this early for male performers.
Really? Interesting. The N-word in Brazilian Portuguese is "monkey" in English, so maybe he is, but other than that, there's nothing Brazilian about him. Must be Brazilian in the same way that Jessie Rogers is :)
Porn Star Alexis Texas: No Black Guys for Me, Please! http://www.tmz.com/videos/0_r3hgz0a3/#ixzz2Z1woQBXe TMZ dicussing Alexis Texas I don't believe she is racist but this must have embarrassed the hell out her. The biggest media website. Her twitter must have a been a nightmare that week.
ALEXIS TEXAS Inspires Crusade for Racial Equality ... in Porn Porn star Alexis Texas doesn't shoot scenes with African-American actors -- which is stirring up some inner conflict (for one fan) ... and sparking a very sexy civil rights movement. http://www.tmz.com/2013/02/15/porn-star-alexis-texas-interracial-tmz-tv/#ixzz2Z1yxzsDV Edited by - pokerman on 7/14/2013 10:41:12 AM
^ I really don't like that , there's a crusade to force an actress to do something she's not willing to do, something sexual. This is very close to a forced non consensual sex act , in real life it is called rape with a gang watching around Even if she is racist to force her into a sexual act she don't want to perform is still a rape, made not by physical strength but psychological and economical. Fuck a black or be fired. also what "equality" exactly is? a white pornstar has not the right to refuse a scene when the performer happen to be black? Is it so? Why nobody is harassing Digital Playground? what's next? Lexington Steele called Homophobic because he refuses to perform gay? After all he is a professional takes money to fuck, and an ass is an ass, there's plenty of straight for pay gay performers or gay for pay straight performers and many cross dressed performers. so why not?
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hoochimama Deactivated User
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Posted - Jul 14 2013 : 11:49AM
^I think you're taking it way too seriously if you think that TMZ piece wasn't just a humor piece(or that it doesn't actually work in Alexis' favor by giving her more visibility). Or that anyone is talking about forcing anyone into doing anything.
At most fans just reserve the right to accuse pornstars(not necessarily the person behind the porn persona) of discriminating against whatever it is they avoid, including Lex discriminating against gay butts & penises, mostly as a form of fan pressure. ________________________________________________ Please ID these girls from PlayboyTV's Foursome show Edited by - hoochimama on 7/14/2013 11:53:45 AM
Any form of fan pressure is wrong , a request is legit, pressures are not. and it is not just that, there's a topic on monthly basis about Alexis not doing IR. Of course nobody gives a single fuck to the fact she was raised by a black stepfather and that lived and lives among blacks since most of her relatives are black. So plain racism is unlikely, whatever reason she has , she should be left alone.
When has that ever been the case? I'm actually asking for real examples here because I don't really see how a bunch of fans whining like crybabies for a pornstar to do a new gimmick is anything but publicity for her. ________________________________________________ Please ID these girls from PlayboyTV's Foursome show
^Crying is one thing , to imply she's a racist another, to force her to perform something she won't to in order to get rid of such a label is the gun pointed at her head, to imply she might be affected getting less scenes or even to imply a boycott about her is the bullet this is just a sum up of what has been said about her over the years Anything done to force someone to do something sexual he/she doesn't want to do is just unacceptable If I ask to some girl to fuck is legit, she say no and I insist may be accepted , maybe even three times other than that is illegal she's been harassed for more Anals and for IR for years now the very strange thing here is that none of her fans say nothing to defend her, I'm the only one who does , and I'm not even a fan I usually let it go for a while , but then nobody intervene , so I do it. strange fans she has. Edited by - LCF on 7/14/2013 2:14:56 PM
Alexis has the right to fuck whoever she wants. Maybe she doesn't fuck blacks because of family pressures. Maybe it is because of the rumor that fucking IR lowers your per-scene rate. Whatever it is, she deserves to have her request respected and not pressure her to fuck blacks just because you want her to. Remember, we all are racist, it is to what degree that we differ.
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InFamous Deactivated User
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Posted - Jul 14 2013 : 3:41PM
^ BTW have an black male performer refused to work with white woman in porn? BTW George Zimmerman is an free man and he shot an 15 year old black buy for no reason, now that is racist Edited by - InFamous on 7/14/2013 3:53:36 PM
Interesting. 20 years ago I would not watch anal or interracial. I didn't care for either. Now, 90% + is either anal or interracial. Does this mean I was a racist long ago? No, my tastes have changed. That's all This is the best post in a long time. Most good posts get shut down to soon.
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Rosco Fuji Deactivated User
On the licking stick, Mr. Magic Dick! 3309 Posts 2/09
Posted - Jul 14 2013 : 11:03PM
Well, 1. because the general consensus here is that DP sucks, so no one really cares. Personally,I wouldn't know as I don't recall seeing anything by them. 2. He's done jerk off videos for the gay market and the rules are different for male talent. 3. Again different rules for male talent as guys ham slamming other guys is considered gay and risky and just downright gay while the girls are the draw for consumers and abide by a completely different set of rules. Not only that, the whole "Ass is ass" argument is a lame one, so it really is stretching it a bit to even consider it.
I'm indifferent about Alexis Texas and don't really care about her one way or another. But I don't like people being called racist just because they don't want to have sex with a black person. I also think it's okay for a white pornstar not to have sex with a black performer if she/he doesn't want to. But if that pornstar has made that choice she/he should be ready and prepared and expect to be called on it. As long as it'd not done in an harrassing way I don't see anything wrong with people asking why that pornstar has made that choice. If the pornstar would just be honest with their answer and except that not everyone will be hapy with the answer that pornsar would probably be better off in the long run. At this point in the game I doubt any explaination Alexis would give is going to hurt her career much. The hardcore IR lovers have given up on her long ago and much of her audience doesn't seem to care one way or another, so I don't see what she has to lose by comming clean and putting it out there for once and for all. I really don't think fans have enough clout or power to "force" Alexis to do IR. And as I've mentioned on this subject before...At this point are there still that many people who care that much and still want to see her do IR other than the hardcore few that are obsessed with such things? Is Alexis still a major player?
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Rosco Fuji Deactivated User
On the licking stick, Mr. Magic Dick! 3309 Posts 2/09
Posted - Jul 15 2013 : 1:30AM
Agreed! The funny thing about the "Forced Tolerance" clowns are "it's completely okay for them to call you a racist, but you're not allowed to actually say you are a racist."
That's just your example. Some people may have a deep seated dislike or disapproval of interracial porn/relationships, which is ultimately down to racism. I doubt that's the same thing as you not caring for interracial.
I'm indifferent about Alexis Texas and don't really care about her one way or another. But I don't like people being called racist just because they don't want to have sex with a black person. I really don't think fans have enough clout or power to "force" Alexis to do IR. And as I've mentioned on this subject before..
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I agree , but given the title of this topic it was implied she's a racist And I said that any pressure to any performer to have her perform something she doesn't want to , is wrong it could be anal for Misty Stone or IR for Alexis. Alexis was just one but my point was general I don't know if the fans have an actual power , still a thorough public pressure might go well beyond the power of fans, maybe not for Alexis , maybe someone else, maybe even someone I hate, still I think it is wrong, the very idea is wrong IMO.
I woke up today and everything is still everything! 400 Posts 1/09
Posted - Jul 15 2013 : 6:46AM
The Real Dude would not approve of your comment Dudeness. Self defense for Zimmerman would have been throwing an elbow to said 15 year old's jaw or cracking him in the throat...all things he could have done in self defense if he was not a coward.....blowing him up with a heater was cowardly and was murder.....and he got away with it. BTW, if i had a child, he would be taught to use a legal handgun just for such occasions.
^Guys, let's not derail, there's a thread for that particular discussion here. @Infamous. Here's the thread where the Justin Long comment was discussed.
There's a certain amount of pressure in porn in general to do things or certain acts. But any girl has the option to simply say no. For a girl who only wants to only do girl/girl there's a pressure to do boy/girl. A girl who only wants to work with her husband/boyfriend has pressure to work with other guys. A girl who only wants to do "vanilla" type scenes has pressure to do "harder" stuff. Then there's anal, DP gangbangs etc... In every instance the only real pressure that matters is the pressure to make enough money from being in porn. 10 fans or 10,000 fans can tweet or ask that girl to do a certain sex act but that girl could very easily choose not to do it. In fact girls do so all the time. The girl is very aware of the amount of money she may be missing out on because of her decision. If she is okay with missing out on that potential money it's highly unlikely anything fans could say will make her change her mind when money can't. As far as fans making requests/demands...I still think the girl should expect it. There are popular sex acts, studios and performers in the industry, it would be totally unrealistic for a girl to think no fan will ever want to see her do those things. It's part of the job. As long as the fans aren't being mean about it I think they have the right to request as often as they wish.
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Posted - Jul 15 2013 : 12:04PM
Not true. She does not have the right to fuck me. Besides, nobody is talking about her personal sexual choices. People are talking about her discriminating against who she works with based on race. The only right that applies, is her right not to work doing b/g porn. More importantly, those who have in the past that have hired her and those that allow her to continue working doing b/g porn are the only people practicing racism that matter.
[mod edit: comment removed. As mentioned above by a moderator, there's a thread for that particular discussion here.] Edited by - killbillvol69 on 7/15/2013 3:32:43 PM
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hoochimama Deactivated User
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Posted - Jul 15 2013 : 2:14PM
[mod edit: thanks but I deleted above, so your comments are not needed now.] Edited by - killbillvol69 on 7/15/2013 3:33:30 PM
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InFamous Deactivated User
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Posted - Jul 15 2013 : 11:08PM
Here another question, is it racist for Elegant to not have an black girl for there Superstar Series or in there Gangband movies.
^^ Elegant Angel put out a movie entirely devoted to Skin Diamond. That tells me that Collins is motivated by money, not race. [typo] Edited by - hardware on 7/15/2013 11:17:09 PM
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InFamous Deactivated User
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Posted - Jul 15 2013 : 11:25PM
^ But it wasn't for there Superstar Series wasn't it.
Go look at Skin Diamond's page over on the IAFD - Remy 2 - William H. directing, IR Performers if the Year 2013 - William H.directing, IR You're full of it, mate.
Sometimes life is goofier than a monkey on ether 12073 Posts 7/10
Posted - Jul 16 2013 : 12:36AM
You should start a letter writing campaign to EA to end this injustice. This is the most important issue in the world today. Edited by - PornStarNamedBuckNaked on 7/16/2013 12:37:13 AM
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Todd Gack Deactivated User
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Posted - Jul 16 2013 : 2:03AM
I think InFamous and kingdarius should form a tag team called The Interracialists and join WWE. I'll pitch it to the McMahons...
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InFamous Deactivated User
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Posted - Jul 16 2013 : 2:17AM
Whatever because you are full of it too. I don't have time for this anyway, I go non porn (business) stuff I got to take care of in the morning.
Alright folks bring it down a notch. This thread has nothing to do with Elegant Angel anyway.
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Corran7 Deactivated User
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Posted - Jul 16 2013 : 1:25PM
I don't watch black men with white women in porn because it does nothing for me. That doesn't make me racist, it's just a personal preference about wanting to watch porn that turns me on. The other hand, Skin Diamond and Misty Stone are two of my favorite stars and I watch them have IR sex all the time. I was also in love with Heather Hunter and she was one of the absolute best performers of her time.
