Hi everyone! I love watching rimming in movies and have been interested in trying it for myself but all the information I can find on the subject says that it is really really dangerous and there is a high chance you will pick up a nasty stomach complaint. Does anyone know the real facts? If it is really so bad for you how come you see it in so many movies? Thanks. [mod edit: this thread seems better suited to the Sex Talk forum, especially in its 2012 reincarnation. I'm moving it there.] Topic Moved by - killbillvol69 on Mar 18 2012
The cleaner the anus, the safer it is. I would imagine that any actors doing this cleans off pretty well before they participate. I'm not sure what you mean by "really really dangerous", but yes, it can make you quite sick. The risk for suffering long-term damage from it is quite small, but in the short term, someone may end up throwing up a lot and maybe having a fever too. Much like eating spoiled food. Ass to mouth is quite common too, and the risks from doing that are much higher because the woman is sucking something that was pulled out from deep inside of her. Interestingly enough, I learned recently that there's very little health risk from drinking one's own urine. In fact, some people claim that there's a health benefit from doing so! As for me, I'll stick with filtered tap water. Oh, and the reason you see it in so many movies is that it's fun to do, it's fun to have it done on you, and it's fun to watch other people doing it. Edited by - macko69 on 3/5/2009 3:03:43 PM
While I personally believe rimming, ass to mouth and ass to pussy to all be inherently risky sex acts, there are many porn performers who claim to be on constant antibiotics anyways just to cut down on the various "occupational STDs" that are prevalent in the industry. I'm not talking AIDS but more your garden variety cases of Herpes and the like. Then again, I saw at least one post on here from Katja Kassin that she's been doing ATM and other sorts of acts forever, never takes antibiotics and has never had a health-related issue from doing it. So perhaps it's all about your metabolism. I've done it on my wife before, she didn't get sick. But that was before she had other health issues. I wouldn't dream of doing it to her now for risk of infection that, in her current situation, could kill her.
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Posted - Mar 5 2009 : 10:43PM
I've been rimming female sex workers for a long time now and I have never had any problems. That's not to say I'm not taking a risk but I kind of get a feel for sex worker in terms of how clean she is and so forth, if I trust her, I'm all over it. Edited by - sickguy on 3/6/2009 11:11:14 PM
or you could just wash your fucking ass before you let somebody jam their tongue and who knows what in there and it shouldn't be a problem. hell, sticking your dirty unwashed fingers in any bodily orifices can be harmful. shaking somebody's hand could be a risk if you are not sure of their personal hygiene. for all you know they could have just wiped their ass and not washed their hands after. so please don't trip people. it's all a matter of how you take care of yourself. and sex is mostly an exchange of bodily fluids and mostly you get close to another person which is mostly tied to some sort of risk one way or the other. that's just how it is unless you make it a totally sterile and unpleasant experience. it's about how much fun justifies the risk and also who is the person you are with and how comfortable are you with them. if you can live with an "accident" here and there while sticking your dick into somebody's ass than anal sex should be fun but if you are too freaked out about it, let it go and watch TV instead. if you have a germ phobia then rimming is not your thing I would say. it all depends on is it worth it to you or not. nothing sexual is totally safe unless you are just watching and don't touch somebody else at all. even touching, kissing can have their consequences. it doesn't have to be the tongue in the asshole. that is just psychological nastier but kissing somebody who doesn't take care of themselves can be equally "dirty".
just for your information antibiotics are effective against bacteria and as you should know Herpes is a virus. taking antibiotics does not protect you against getting it. you should know because doctors keep telling this to their patients when they have a cold, over and over again that antibiotics have no effect on a virus. also being on constant antibiotics is very dangerous because your body can develop a resistance and in the case of a real infection the medication won't work. plus antibiotics mostly make you feel shitty like give you stomach problems, the runs etc so I doubt anybody would do this for fun. Also keep in mind that antibiotics have some effect on birth control and it wouldn't be a wise idea for female performers to be on antibiotics while taking the pill. now I am done. I am not a doctor, just common knowledge.
It's risky if you don't know the health status of your partner. Seems most diseases are easier to spread through oral contact with the anus. However, if it's your wife and you know she's healthy, the chances of you getting anything really terrible are pretty low. I've rimmed lots of people (even dirty asses) and have never gotten sick because of it. In retrospect, I should have been more careful about my choices of sexual partners but it wasn't the act itself that was really that risky. It was the fact that I had full, unprotected sex with people I knew almost nothing about. If you're going to do this stuff with anyone, you should both get tested for STDs first. It's a minor inconvenience and maybe a bit of an embarrassment but that's a small price to pay for peace of mind.
If you really want to be safe, [non-microwaveable] Saran wrap (or dental dams for the really prepared amongst us) is your best friend . . . I honestly think a good soapy scrubbing immediately before will leave you relatively safe, with only a little of the always-present risk. But then again, I've never been very picky when it comes to hygiene.
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Posted - Mar 6 2009 : 10:11AM
Ever have a dog lick you in the face. Did you consider it may have just been licking it's ass, eating shit or licking another cat or dogs ass ? Probably riskier than rimming a person with a freshly washed anus.
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Posted - Mar 6 2009 : 10:54AM
Jesus,Katja, If you stuck your big beautiful ass in my face and told me to eat it, there's no way I'm gonna stop and check if it's clean or get a sponge to clean it! I'm not into scat,but I wouldn't care,I would just be consumed with lust and would bury my face between those luscious buttocks and chow down on your tasty butthole! I wouldn't lick AROUND it either,I would bury my tongue in there and tongue-fuck that asshole DEEP!
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Posted - Mar 6 2009 : 10:57AM
Me too,I nearly always do it with hookers. Somehow it feels more natural doing the real dirty stuff with prostitutes rather than a girlfriend.... But cleaning it first spoils the fun I don't wanna taste soap,I wanna taste her ass! Hookers are usually clean,all the ones I have used shower thoroughly after each client anyway..
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Posted - Mar 6 2009 : 2:41PM
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Posted - Mar 6 2009 : 11:14PM
RandomPrecision wrote: [/quote] Cleanliness means absolutely nothing. If you keep doing it, you're asking for trouble. [/quote] I've actually heard that rimming is a pretty low risk activity. I should also mention that most of the time, it's with the same women. I have this regular massage/fetish provider that I see. She only has a handful of clients as well. She basically got out of the biz and just kept a few that she liked and I'm one of them. Having that said, once or twice a year I check out a different escort and take part but have never had any problems. Edited by - sickguy on 3/6/2009 11:19:04 PM
This is the best thread I've seen in... forever. I'm with Katja... if it's fun, it's probably not safe. And when this shit stops being fun, I'm outta here for good. - Marie Marie's Play Place
like cand said if you are really wanting to do it but worried about the health issues pick up some dental dams
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Posted - Mar 7 2009 : 2:12AM
I don't think this top even needs further discussion after Katja's post. Loved and completely agree with everything she said. After all these years of doing it, she would know! I rim just about every single girl I've ever dated (except for one super annoying girl), and I go digging....not just licking around the rim. Have never had a problem with it even once. Hell I've even been lucky enough to be with a few girls who I made suck my dick after I fucked them up the ass, and I never heard the got sick after. If it's an ass like Katja's in my face, there's no way in hell I am stopping even for a second to check if it's clean or not...I am going right in! Like the other guy said, having your dog lick your face or using public toilets is a lot more dangerous then rimming or tasting a girl's asshole! Edited by - ExtremeGonzoFan on 3/7/2009 2:14:11 AM
As far as HIV goes, it is pretty low risk. HIV isn't the only thing you have to worry about. It may be the worst but you probably wouldn't like hepatitis (or any of a number of other things that may be possible to spread this way) either.Well, consider this. It doesn't matter if they're the same women. You're not the only person they're having sex with. I'm not saying you shouldn't do this. It's your choice. But you should be aware of the risks. It's just not safe to do it with random people. If you know this risk and accept it then that's fine. Life is all about calculated risk. But you need to at least know it when you're doing something risky.
We get exposed to colonic bacteria all the time. How many times in your life do you think you ate food that was prepared by someone who didn't wash their hands properly after going to the toilet? Dozens? Hundreds of times? Most bladder infections in women are caused by bacteria originating in the bowel, but they are , for the most part, minor illnesses. Nearly everything ingested by mouth is killed by Hydrochloric acid in the stomach. There is a risk of nastier bacteria such as Crytoporidium and viral illnesses, eg Norovirus, but the risk can be overstated. These bugs are everywhere. We are exposed to them anyway. If you enjoy rimming, keep things in proportion.
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Posted - Apr 25 2010 : 7:46PM
I read somewhere, years ago, that there are more bacteria in one's mouth than on one's anus. Don't know if that's true, I just remember reading it. I also follow certain health experts who claim that all disease comes from a lack of various nutrients--vitamins and minerals--which lowers our natural immune system. And you all should have heard by now that many doctors are saying not to worry about your rug rats eating a little dirt. They will have a stronger immune system when they get older. As to rimming, I have done that many times in my long sexual history. I never, to the best of my knowledge, contracted any disease. However, if I were going to go from rimming--tongue fucking, actually--to pussy-licking, I always had a glass of something, champagne usually, to swirl around my mouth and tongue before licking the woman's pussy. I hoped that the alcohol would kill any bacteria that I otherwise might transfer inadvertently. I also like to have my ass licked. To the best of my knowledge no one who has done that to me had contracted any disease either. Then, when it comes to watching porn, I don't particularly like watching a woman do that to a man. However, I do love watching a woman lick another woman's anus.
what is a sex worker? you mean you lick ass of hookers? if yes, in which country? I think it makes a big difference. Anyway, @topic: I've never rimmed a woman nor would I ever rim a woman even if she'd be cindy fucking crawford. Heck, I even dislike to 69 my gf's because my nose would be practically in her ass by doing that.... btw, wouldnt let a woman lick my ass either even if she begs for a piece of it....and yes, some girls are that dirty & kinky to want to do this. Edited by - adt44 on 4/25/2010 7:54:54 PM
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Posted - Apr 26 2010 : 11:51AM
Well, I use the term "sex workers" because they're not out right hookers. They're massage places that offer some sexual services but not full-service. The country is Canada.
Actually kissing is worse than rimming, there are more bacterial infections in the mouth than it is in a girls butt, (especially if she's clean) at least that's what my doctor said. Edited by - el tea on 4/26/2010 12:04:43 PM
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Posted - Apr 26 2010 : 1:52PM
To the best of my knowledge, most of the immune system is harbored within the linings of the intestines. Each part of the intestine serves as a kind of designated parking lot for specific types of good bacteria. When we swallow bad bacteria and parasites, it is this good bacteria that hopefully kills off the hostile invaders. Probiotics, which can be taken in pill form, help to keep the intestines stocked with these good bacteria. Acidophilus from yogurt is a sample of a probiotic. When you take an antibiotic orally, it kills a lot of the beneficial bacteria which is harbored in the intestines. This is often the cause of diarrhea and upset stomach. I think antibiotics have their purposes, but they are extremely over-prescribed within our society. This is creating resistant strains of "super bugs", which are very aggressive in the damage they do. An acquaintance of mine lost almost half his body to a flesh-eating bacteria before he died a couple weeks ago. I have been up in Canada, there are a lot of babes with lickable looking assholes up there.
No. The immune system is something else entirely, involving mainly white blood cells. The bacteria in the large intestine have a kind of symbiotic relationship with their human host: they process some of the food we can't digest and produce vitamins. Sure, the presence of beneficial bacteria in the intestine helps keep more harmful strains away. But you get traveller's diarrhea from eating food prepared by people who have not washed their hands thoroughly enough after wiping their asses and thus unwittingly transferred some of their foreign bacteria to your food. Rimming will expose you to another person's ass bacteria even more efficiently. The effect would depend on how compatible your bacteria are. Our skins are thoroughly coated by bacteria too.
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Posted - Apr 26 2010 : 3:26PM
I don't claim to know exactly how the immune system works. Most of my knowledge comes from late night talk radio shows from the AM dial out of Canada. Duke and the Doctor (name of the radio show) are constantly, and I mean constantly talking about the immune system, and how important the gut is to sustaining a healthy immune system. Who knows, maybe they are just trying to sell their probiotics so that I feel confident as I lick that spread Asian ass. So...witling, if I said I agree to disagree, perhaps that is because I am more confused now about how the gut has a symbiotic relationship to the immune system than ever. Who can you trust? I don't trust doctors these days, the motherfuckers only seem to want to push their pills and cut you up for a life's savings. Rarely do they teach people how to avoid being sick, they just say "Yeah, Mr. AsianAnalPantyhoserGuy, we're gonna put you on these scrips because we think you may possibly suffer from schizophrenia, and come back next week with another $500.00, have a nice day."
As long as the ass is freshly clean and you know your lady is loyal go for it, don't see the problem,,,However if you get to within an inch and it does not smell right refrain from licking, probably unhealthy. It's certainly not "healthy" regardless,,,it's not gonna make your skin glow regardless of how clean it is.
My guess is this is more a result of a combination of food safety issues than any one issue by itself. And that people not washing their hands is probably fairly low on the scale of things that cause people to get sick (People don't wipe their asses with their bare hands, after all and tend to avoid getting any of the actual waste on their hands). I'd say, for example, food that's held long past it's holding time is a much bigger culprit (A lot of people don't realize even cooked food needs to be thrown out after a while). Lots of types of bacteria start to grow as the holding time expires. And of course, restaurants that tend to hold cooked food long past it's holding time tend to do the same with unprepared food. There's also the issue of dirty utensils and prep surfaces and other such things. It's certainly not good if someone who cooks food takes a dump and doesn't wash their hands but it isn't guaranteed to make you sick. Not to the extent to which people think it is anyway. Frankly, unless they have automatic faucets, washing their hands is likely to deposit even more bacteria on their hands (Because everyone who uses that bathroom and washes their hands uses the same sink) unless they go on to use hand sanitizer as well. Anyway, I got off track. I think overall, people get food poisoning and so forth as a result of many food safety failures put together. A dirty restaurant can make you sick in a bunch of different ways. Anyone who's ever worked in a poorly managed food prep area has likely seen thousands of things that could end in having a bad time in the toilet. Edited by - randomprecision on 4/30/2010 9:55:10 AM
I was not talking about food poisoning but specifically about traveller's diarrhea (called Montezuma's Revenge or Delhi Belly etc. depending on the destination), which is something that strikes tourists but does not affect the local population who have developed a tolerance to the local bacteria. The truth is some bacteria from fecal matter will find their way into food and such no matter what but continuous exposure will make us resistant. Studies indicate that it will take years to develop such a resistance. Hygiene is definitely a factor - travellers to first word countries do not get such symptoms as frequently as the other way round, but it is known to happen there too.
It's risky , a lot. (and ATM is even more risky) , a friend of mine did that often with is (ex)wife but it ended with an infection who attacked his kidneys and needed TWO YEARS of constant care and exams to have it gone , and it was his supeclean ex-wife who also is a doctor and was the one noticing that something was wrong in a bad way , had him married to another woman he might not noticed that until it was maybe too late Edited by - Laurie Cameron Fan on 3/18/2012 6:03:06 AM
Rimming and ass-to-mouth is a way to transmit germs from one person to another. But the risk depends on whether your partner has anything dangerous to transmit or not. And of course, when you do this kind of thing with many partners or with someone who has had many partners, then the risk increases substantially. And this kind of thing applies to all kinds of unprotected sex that enables transmission of germs from one person to another. You can decrease the risk of transmission by screening people for HIV for example. But you can't screen people for every possible disease and infection, because for many diseases and infections there are no reliable screening tests. And the cost of screening can be substantial too, when you need to do the screening many times. That's why I have no problem with using condoms in porn movies. And I also prefer lubricated hand massage, as a substitute for cunnilingus or fellatio. Infections don't transmit through the skin of your hands. All you need to do is wash your hands well after the act, to avoid infecting yourself. And fingering your lady's ass instead of rimming her with your tongue is also a much safer option.
Using your hands to have sex, instead of your mouth and tongue, is the safe way to enjoy sex in real life and in porn too. And hands have their own advantages compared to the mouth and tongue. In terms of feeling the shape and the texture, fingers and hands are superior to mouth and tongue. And the same is true for movement and manipulation. Delicate movement and manipulation is a natural function of hands. And this is something hands are really good at, better than the mouth and tongue, which are made more for tasting and chewing than manipulation. Edited by - Dan on 3/18/2012 9:54:15 AM
^ I might agree but i am an eater for example , I LOVE to eat a woman out pushing her to enjoyment thay way really turns me on I mean REALLY ,then the real thing begins. Also oral sex has its brain excitement , I'm not into BJ I prefer to perform oral on women myself rather than receive it , but a woman who who go all the way until you pop out and then she swallows is great, although this is risky for her obviously condoms aren't good for oral, there's no flavor any pleasure showed by a woman is clearly faked , there's no point in sucking latex
^ I used to like oral sex too, but when I tried massaging a lady's pussy with some lube, then I liked it so much that oral sex lost its appeal for me. Because with my hand I could feel the shape and the texture of the lady's whole pussy and not just a part of it. And due to the superior dexterity of my fingers and hands, I found that it was a lot easier for me to bring my lady to orgasm. It felt better both for me and for the lady. And it was a lot safer too, in terms of possible STD's. I think a lot of people might prefer hand masturbation, once they try it with a lady who lets them do it. Because it's an easier and more effective way for a guy to bring his lady to orgasm. And it's enjoyable for the guy too, because he gets to feel the slipping and sliding of the lady's labia and clit on his massaging hand. A lot of people aren't comfortable with exploring and trying new things sexually, even when it's a safer form of sex than what they are used to. And without trying new things, innovation and change is very difficult indeed. Edited by - Dan on 3/18/2012 12:22:41 PM
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Posted - Mar 18 2012 : 12:53PM
hmmmm.... everybody's talking about bacteria. I was told that the problem for the rimmer, as opposed to the rimmee, is the intestinal parasites, not the bacteria. Edited by - ControlFreak on 3/18/2012 12:54:32 PM
^ Everything on the anus gets transferred to the mouth during rimming. Such contact doesn't differentiate between bacteria or parasites. Whatever is there will go into your mouth. Perhaps there are more people with parasite infections than with bacterial infections. And this makes the transmission of parasites more likely. But the contact itself is just as effective for transmitting bacteria as it is for transmitting parasites.
actually the major risk is this: Cytomegalovirus roughly over 70% of human population of developed countries has it it's a light form of herpes , but in some cases it attacks the kidneys which may lead to major troubles Might also transmit mononucleosis and herpes genitalis which is an STD Edited by - Laurie Cameron Fan on 3/18/2012 2:47:22 PM
Not to single this statement out of context, but I am under the impression that people not washing their hands IS high on the scale of things that cause people to get sick. I travel often, I use a lot of public restrooms and eat out a lot. People do some very unsanitary things and it grosses me out. I am a germ freak and a rimmer, strange combination I know..I don't know about womens restrooms but I see too many guys not wash their hands after coming out of the stall, and even though you wash your hands, you still gotta get out of the bathroom, so if you touch the door handle what good does it do to wash your hands???? When I eat out I pay attention to what my waitress does...I watch her pick up the dirty dishes from the table next to me and stick her fingers in some nasty looking food, then she ditches the dishes and sticks her fingers on my plate and I am like...ugggghhh. But back to rimming...this might sound rude of me, but I have no problem telling a girl..."I might want to lick your ass tonight so please let me know if it isn't clean..."
I have been tonguing women's buttholes for years. It never led to any issues. This doesn't mean that one is totally unlikely to encounter any of the rare things this activity could present.
