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| gambrinus Member United Kingdom 8 Posts 12/04 |  Posted - Dec 19 2004 : 6:17AMHi, When a porn video that was originally on NTSC DVD is converted to PAL DVD for the UK/European market, should there be a difference in running time between the two? I know that when feature films are converted to PAL that they are about 5% shorter, but I mean porn films that are originally shot on NTSC video, and (professionally?) converted to PAL. Thanks in advance for any info. [Link] |
Jacco  All-Star Member "liable to deprave and corrupt" 2673 Posts 5/04 | Posted - Dec 19 2004 : 3:37PM Jacco [Link] |
| gambrinus Member United Kingdom 8 Posts 12/04 | Posted - Dec 19 2004 : 3:48PM How many percent, would you say? And would the PAL be longer or shorter than the NTSC one? And why would that be? [Link] |
| Jacco All-Star Member "liable to deprave and corrupt" 2673 Posts 5/04 | Posted - Dec 19 2004 : 5:38PM Jacco [Link] |
| TonyC Comstock Films 2523 Posts 8/03 | Posted - Dec 19 2004 : 6:00PM When video shot at 29.97fps (commonly refered to as 30fps) is converted to PAL it is done with frame interpolation. 16% of the NTSC frames are dropped to fit into the 25fps PAL frame rate. The imperfect time base relationship (25 vs 29.97) means that there will a ultimate difference of about .02% between the NTSC and PAL. There's also spatial interpolation because PAL and NTSC have different pixel arrays. I'm not an engineer, so I may have some of the specifics wrong. But the idea is more or less correct. -T.C. [Link] |
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| gambrinus Member United Kingdom 8 Posts 12/04 | Posted - Dec 19 2004 : 6:07PM [Link] |
| TonyC Comstock Films 2523 Posts 8/03 | Posted - Dec 19 2004 : 6:25PM -T.C. [Link] |
| Ghost Pro Member Creampies, Blowjobs and Asians..... Oh My! 236 Posts 9/04 | Posted - Dec 20 2004 : 12:44AM If a title contains either of these, it will be excluded from the retail version. The mail order (or european versions) are only available directly from Falconstudios.com or tlavideo.com inside the us. So that maybe what accounts for the time difference on the disc. [Link] |
| gambrinus Member United Kingdom 8 Posts 12/04 | Posted - Dec 20 2004 : 5:50AM I guess my point is... although the BBFC (who rate R18s) website says that no cuts were made to Falcon's 'The Recruits', it says that the running time is 83 minutes. But the US version is 90 minutes, and 90 minutes is about average for a Falcon movie. Maybe the version submitted for rating was already watered down by the UK distributor...? [Link] |
| cv Member My reviews[/url] 594 Posts 7/03 | Posted - Dec 20 2004 : 10:04AM Basically, the DVD producer edits out content that will most likely be objectionable to the target market. The DVD submitted to the UK censors was already edited; the UK censors are saying that no cuts were made from the version submitted for review. It's easier for everyone to get it passed the first time around. No re-editing by the producer, no remission/review to the censors, no costly delays for the distributor. [Link] |
| Ghost Pro Member Creampies, Blowjobs and Asians..... Oh My! 236 Posts 9/04 | Posted - Dec 20 2004 : 3:03PM The most accurate information I have seen on actual run times is on TLA Video's website. They show the running time for "Recruits" at 85 minutes. [Link] |
| gambrinus Member United Kingdom 8 Posts 12/04 | Posted - Dec 20 2004 : 5:02PM It's normally only fisting and watersports that the BBFC have a problem with, so I was surprised that an apparent 7 minutes was missing. And to cv: I'm a newbie here, so will do a search for topics about editing for international releases.. [Link] |
| Percy Walker Member 108 Posts 9/03 | Posted - Dec 21 2004 : 2:22AM [Link] |
| Jacco All-Star Member "liable to deprave and corrupt" 2673 Posts 5/04 | Posted - Dec 21 2004 : 7:45PM Jacco [Link] |
| Bill All-Star Member 5334 Posts 6/00 | Posted - Dec 21 2004 : 8:36PM Our problem in the US is that, except for some projectors and HDTV's, finding a TV that will display a 50Mhz PAL signal is rare. [Link] |
| Jacco All-Star Member "liable to deprave and corrupt" 2673 Posts 5/04 | Posted - Dec 21 2004 : 9:50PM Jacco [Link] |
| gambrinus Member United Kingdom 8 Posts 12/04 | Posted - Dec 22 2004 : 12:49AM [Link] |
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