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Myload
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Posted - Feb 18 2007 : 3:50AM
The whole show was meant to be one-sided, and that's the problem. I'm sure that Sasha knew what she was getting into when she agreed to appear on the show, but Tyra should have given her a fair shake.
married_lucky
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Posted - Feb 18 2007 : 2:40PM
Tyraxxx should have gave her 8 grand and had 15 guys twice, three times her age, from the audience fuck her in the ass and make her hold all loads in her mouth 'till the last guy cums, then swallow it all.

I can't believe porn isn't doing a follow-up Tyraxxxshow.

Crucifixio_Jones
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Posted - Feb 18 2007 : 7:26PM
To end this mystery once and for all, "Tiana" is Kimmy Lee.

The whole "black guys who are perfectly content to bang overweight, shopworn white chicks" jab wasn't very far off because Kimmy ended her "career" (which I wasn't aware was at an end as of Nov. '06 according to her MySpace blog) doing stuff mostly for West Coast Productions, Evasive Angles and anywhere else that did "chunky chicks" movies and the like. I know she was in at least two of Rodney Moore's Scale Bustin' Babes videos and I saw her in Evasive's Big Phat Wet Ass Orgy 1 and WCP's Ahhhhh Shit White Mama 1 myself this past year. I even reviewed Bacon Love under another pen name for this very site and talked about her start at Bang Bros. back when she was fairly hot and thin (her Ass Parade shoot and her Big Tits, Round Asses shoot). If you look at her MySpace pics there is one of her when she was thinner with the caption "this is coming back, I promise."

I recall her rapid weight gain (she blew up to the point I no longer recognized her and a bigger fan of hers had to show me it was her by pointing out body art) and it was even the subject of one of my blog entries last year.

Edited by - Crucifixio_Jones on 2/19/2007 10:24:31 PM

Raoul Duke
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Posted - Feb 18 2007 : 10:46PM
Yeah really Spiegler, can't you arrange a parody vid with Sasha and Tyra Banxxx? You and Ian can even play yourselves. I can just see the possibilities.
 
Raoul Duke
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Posted - Feb 18 2007 : 11:23PM
CJ,Luke says the same thing. I'm glad you posted, though, since you can't believe most of the stuff on Luke's site.

Edited by - Raoul Duke on 2/18/2007 11:27:13 PM

Edited by - Raoul Duke on 2/18/2007 11:27:46 PM

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Posted - Feb 19 2007 : 12:17AM
Whoa! Sherlock Jones, bust a move!
Clearly, all the military training has paid off. There's an assignment for you, but the tape will self-destruct after 60 seconds!

Good work. Home girl ain't looking too bad in these links. What the hell happened to her?

RandomPrecision
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Posted - Feb 19 2007 : 1:03AM
Of course not. My whole point all along has been that not only was it not a balanced view, but that she had no intentions of doing anything of the sort. It was more like a trial than an interview. And that's exactly what it was intended to be. Some have asked why we're being so hard on Tyra. Well, there you have it. She doesn't deserve any fairness or respect after she intentionally did what she did.
The funny thing is that quite a few of the audience members that I saw brief glimpses of didn't look very much older than Sasha.....if at all. So, Sasha's wrong and they're all right because?

Additionally, my point was that no matter what it is, it's not going to be hard to find a few people who regret just about anything that they've done. As far as I know, nobody tells these girls a porn career is going to last forever. If they're good, they might get a director's chair or something.

What it is, is a good way to earn a lot of money fast...if someone knows how to put that money to good use, instead of wasting it the way this girl obviously did.

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Posted - Feb 19 2007 : 1:44AM
Please pass the bacon. I'm hongry!
modano
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Posted - Feb 19 2007 : 5:31AM
please pass the link where i can see this! im still curious!
Someone must have it, someone did put it up on youtube (now removed)

ok, last time i bring it up, i promise :)

Raoul Duke
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Posted - Feb 19 2007 : 10:52AM
Modano, you're hopeless. I told you about YouTube and you didn't watch it. We told you about Oxygen and you didn't watch it. LOL

Maybe you can write to Tyra and buy a copy. Check her website.

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Posted - Feb 19 2007 : 12:47PM
Did you check Google Video? Youtube is kinda annoying because they always chop their shit up into like 6-9 minute chunks. If you can find it on Google, it'll probably be the whole show.
modano
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Posted - Feb 19 2007 : 1:56PM
Yep, no luck :(
Clam Digger
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Posted - Feb 19 2007 : 2:12PM
Can you get to YouTube.com? See the link that was supplied by married_lucky on Feb 10 (page 6).
modano
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Posted - Feb 19 2007 : 2:34PM
They were removed by youtube the same day.

Edited by - modano on 2/19/2007 2:35:26 PM

 
RandomPrecision
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Posted - Feb 19 2007 : 4:31PM
Oh well. You didn't miss much. Just a bunch of judgmental assholes sitting around laying nice, thick guilt trips on Sasha and company.

Edited by - randomprecision on 2/19/2007 4:31:42 PM

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Posted - Feb 19 2007 : 10:50PM
Friends -

Plump white porn girl that fucks black guys?

Why didn't somebody ask me?

I didn't see the show, or read this thread until now, but I could have solved the Kimmy Lee mystery a long time ago. And saved C.J. some light work.

I've got plenty of scenes of her in my collection.

Don't know nothing about all this extraneous, "porn fucked up my life", stuff. i just know she had a big ass and fucked on camera, which is pretty much where my interest began and ended.

Good work, C.J.

BSD

Crucifixio_Jones
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Posted - Feb 20 2007 : 4:27AM
I figured you just hadn't seen the thread when I saw that no one had pointed out what I considered obvious to anyone who had watched the show (I didn't see it until much later). If anyone here is a PAWG expert, it's you, BSD. There will be other opportunities to beat me to the punch in the future, I'm sure.
Raoul Duke
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Posted - Feb 22 2007 : 12:06PM
Hey Modano, if you're out there, it's on RIGHT NOW, 12:06 EST on NY's channel 9.
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Posted - Feb 22 2007 : 4:33PM
Well...it looks like Kimmie Lee is in-fact real, not someone from the staff of the show, or some right wing representative from some mainstream conspiracy against porn group...


I think that if a young woman chooses to do porn, EVERYONE here will love her, tell her it's better than flippin' burgers, and tell her how smart she is.... fat, skinny, blonde, black, we have a niche for ya in porn, and you'll be a star.... but

... if a few years later her thoughts begin to mature, and she re-evaluates the journey she's on and the path she's taken... and begins to realize how little she got for what she gave up... and now she has children, maybe a daughter and she begins to see things in a more mature way.... maybe she thinks ...I hope some little girl out there is not being molested by a brother, father, uncle(like I was) while being shown porn of me(Kimmie Lee) being gang fuck on film. That's a harder thing to live with than whether someone enjoyed their burger or not.

I can see how a woman that has come to such a realization might what to reach out to help someone avoid her legacy.... maybe...

....Some 15 year old girl being shown porn by a cool talking 28 year old "boy?-friend". Showing her how much she could make, and telling her it's just another art form, grooming her. She has the normal teenage rebellion to, and for, her mother, and dad is out of the picture, which he can play like a fiddle. He sets is all up and breaks her in til she's 18, and then, off to Cali....

Maybe Kimmie Lee just wants to help a kid like this out by relating her experiences.


So if a young pornstar, later changes her mind, or she matures and sees things in new ways, She will no longer be credible, she'll be mocked, called bitter, saved, along with a lot a other horseshit; no wonder so many disappear into obscurity....they keep quite to avoid ridicule from the industry and it's sycophants, and the mainstream, because of her pass choices and decisions.


I think people have a right to change their minds and act on that change.... and it's sad to now see people attacking her personally rather than the issues she brings to light.

RandomPrecision
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Posted - Feb 22 2007 : 4:41PM
And I suppose it's just a coincidence that hardly anyone has ever fucking heard of her and she also happens to be anti-porn these days, eh?

All you're doing here is trolling and you damn well know it. If you want to preach your anti-porn message, I'm sure you can find an anti-porn message board where nobody will argue with you. Or, you can go and preach it on RAME...which doesn't really exist anymore thanks in no small part to trolls such as yourself and spammers.

married_lucky
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Posted - Feb 22 2007 : 4:50PM
What did I say that was anti-porn?
Raoul Duke
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Posted - Feb 22 2007 : 4:50PM
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Posted - Feb 22 2007 : 4:58PM
When I was much younger I wanted to be a rock star guitar player. I honed my chops and got pretty damn good at it, if I say so myself. However, along the way I discovered that my idea of what a rock star was didn't fit the reality and, even though I love playing music, I decided to move on to other things. Some of the things I observed within and around the music industry weren't nice, some weren't nurturing, and some weren't even legal.

Having said that, you don't see me complaining about the business. You don't see me demonizing it, nor painting it in pretty-pony colors. It is what it is because it is made up of human beings, many of whom are just as fucked up as certain members of this forum. It had slavering fans and it had assholes who had to put you down to prove how big they were, just like porn does. Frankly, both extremes were equally tiresome.

married_lucky
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Posted - Feb 22 2007 : 5:11PM
I think your saying "You did it your way" Good for you! I support your right too.

I don't think you should be ridiculed for how you look now.

You seen bad things in a the music industry concerning a form of expression you love, music. And rather than speak-up and make it better, you took another route with your tail between your legs. That's your choice man...you are what you are... how you look has nothing to do with it.

 
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Posted - Feb 22 2007 : 5:17PM
The other thread was locked, but just want to say to Married Lucky that you missed my point, and then replied in such a way as to misrepresent what I actually said ... but whatever. I don't think there's any point in continuing to debate with you so i won't. Bye.
married_lucky
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Posted - Feb 22 2007 : 5:26PM
mod: sorry, but your trolling days are done in this forum.

Edited by - hardware on 2/22/2007 5:30:12 PM

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Posted - Feb 22 2007 : 5:39PM
It would take too long ... and you make so many presumptions that it all becomes exponential going back and forth. All I can say is that not all porn babes are created equal, and not every individual's situation is universal. There are a lot of porn stars who do all kinds of wild and crazy stuff who really have a good time with it and are not victims and take responsibility for themselves and as women have pretty huge kinky sex drives ... Why shouldn't they be able to behave as if they were a man, without people questioning their motives? I don't see anyone bemoaning the awful fact that Steve Holmes was a 15-year-old boy street hustler in Germany, for instance. No, Steve Holmes is viewed as a middle-aged stud living this unbound sexual lifestyle and getting paid richly for it. I usually find the deep basis in your kind of arguments to be sexist. This is not to say that porn isn't full of stupid people with horrible childhoods and drug addictions, but you can say the same for most professions in which people are called "performers." And, in fact,. one thing about porn is you have to be out of bed by 7 a.m. every day you're shooting, and you can't be too much of a fuckup tweakface to succesfully make the location on time.

Whatever Kimmie's problems are, she should deal with them ... but Sasha does not appear to share those issues. Dude, go read Lorelei Lee's blogs on MySpace if you want to really understand some things ....

BustdownGal
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Posted - Mar 14 2007 : 2:06PM
I love Tyra Banks.

Except for her wildly hypocritical opinions on sexuality.

She and Oprah share this very annoying aspect, though Oprah's version is more mature.

Tyra, as many have pointed out, is a muhfuckin sex symbol, a primary source of the world's jackin' and jillin', yet she always comes down hard on sex-related industries...except for her own. She doesn't see that prostitutes and pornstars are an *integral* part of her very own industry. Porn and prostitution fill the promise that mainstream modelling makes. Vogue is the massage, Hustler is the release. America's Top Model is the grinding in the nightclub, Jenna Loves Bella is the fuck in the nightclub's parking lot. Tyra makes the dicks hard, Sasha makes 'em explode.

Tyra has that annoying thing that some black women have: outlandish sexuality combined with Christian restrictions. Tyra is the archetype that's sweatin' in the juke joint on Saturday night, then sweatin in the church across the river the very next mornin'. Oprah has this to a lesser extent.

It's revealing how Tyra will work so hard to make younger mainstream models feel good about themselves, especially if they are not white and/or thin. But for models who decide to be nude, she will shun them faster than an Amish village shuns a pregnant teenager. She tells women to be proud of their bodies and flaunt them, but at the same time tells them to keep their sexuality on lockdown. To me, sexuality is an essential source of bodily pride. And just like if I'm good at singing and want to share my voice with the world...if I'm good at sexual performance, I want to share that with the world. I think on these shows Tyra reveals her own shame about sexuality, but without directly fessing up to it. It's like she thinks "the only way I can reconcile being a Christian woman with such a mass sinful appeal is to point out other sinners. The only way I can keep from being dunked in the Salem River is to point out to the mob that Sasha was fornicating in the woods with the brokeback. Let's torch her!"

Whereas Tyra's status as a supermodel makes her hypocrisy stand out a little more, Oprah's position as a serious newscaster makes her shyness around sexual topics seem fake. You are over 50, Oprah. You need to stop acting innocent every time sex is brought up on your show. Diane Sawyer and Meredith Vieira are good examples of newscasters who act like grown women with life experience when they discuss sex.

Oprah seems at least more open to learning different viewpoints when sex industry people have been on her show.


Side note to this thread: 50-75% of *all* women report that they they have been sexually assaulted in their lifetimes. Pornstar or not.

BustdownGal
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Posted - Mar 14 2007 : 2:21PM
oh...
and I also like Tyra because her shows have given me more reason to put my hand in my panties than any other non-porn TV show. I actually squirted during her plus-size model show.

Jeezus Christ Tyra I love you so much. Even when you're being hypocritical, I just imagine 5 big dicks encircling those gorgeous eyes and big Christian breasts and all is forgiven.

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Posted - Mar 14 2007 : 3:13PM
Except Diane Sawyer hates women.

But +1 on everything else.

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Posted - Mar 14 2007 : 3:30PM
OMG!!!! This thread still lives.

Edited by - Clam Digger on 3/14/2007 3:30:53 PM

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Posted - Mar 14 2007 : 11:16PM
I agree with BustdownGal that Tyra is a major hypocrite. There isn't much difference between Tyra and Sasha because both of them sell sex. The only difference is that Sasha fucks on camera. Tyra has no right to complain because she is also a sex symbol whether she wants to realize it or not. I'm sure a lot of guys have jacked off to her. When anyone thinks of her I can bet it's not for her "moral Chrisitian values". By the way, Tyra is on my "mainstream celebrities who should do porn" list.
BustdownGal
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Posted - Mar 29 2007 : 11:13AM
Is today's (March 29) Tyra show a repeat of Sasha's show?
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Posted - Mar 29 2007 : 2:13PM
And if it is, will you have another psychotic break Arthur?
 
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BustdownGal
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Posted - Mar 29 2007 : 7:08PM
I watched today's show and it's not a repeat. It's a more positive one than the last one, despite Tyra's own negativity. It's got Suzanne Samson, Herschel Savage, Sharon Mitchell and Michael Raven. Whole show dedicated to porn industry.

I have spent an hour downloading jpegs of Tyra making the same poses that pornstars make. I am now going to put them in my permanent porn collection and masturbate to them. I've never been into celebrity nudes. Thank you Tyra and your hypocrisy for bringing me to this point. The squirts you inspire will be extra squeaky.

Edited by - BustdownGal on 3/30/2007 8:27:40 AM

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Posted - May 17 2007 : 3:11PM
They aired this episode finally in Holland yesterday. They did a great job putting down porn and the girls who do porn but you guys already wrote that perfectly.

I have a question: who was the guy Sasha was talking about she did her first scene with. She was talking about about some Italian guy who was 50 years. The only person that comes to mind is Claudio Malone but which movie?

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Posted - May 17 2007 : 7:59PM
She was talking about Rocco, in Fashionistas 2. I think I pointed out somewhere in this or another thread that it was funny that this 18 year old kid would think Rocco was 50.
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Posted - May 17 2007 : 8:17PM
He's closer to 50 then 18.
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Posted - May 18 2007 : 3:42AM
I didn't think about Rocco because of the age. I thought they were talking about Claudio. I still find the belly punching remark a little weird. I'm not sure what that was all about.

I was pretty pissed off also because that Tyra was putting down Sasha's boyfriend because of the age difference her being 18 and him being 31. I bet if Tyra got Pitt and Jolie on her show she would kiss ass and tell them they're a perfect couple eventhough Pitt is 44 and Jolie is 31 and I'm not even gonna mention Douglas and Zeta-Jones. I guess the age difference is only acceptable if you're doing mainstream movies, not porn.

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Perhaps it is a little known fact, but the 13-year-gap is actively endorsed by Black Muslim leader Minister Louis Farrakan.
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Posted - May 18 2007 : 4:22PM
Ladies and Gentlemen,

Tyra represents how most of America thinks of us as viewers, producers and performers. Jena Jameson is only mainstream in recognition only. Porn never appealed to the mainstream and that includes vivid. It has always had a cult following.

leglover1000
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Posted - May 18 2007 : 4:28PM
Melissa,

Never mind that imbecile, those are usually the 18-20 years who buy porn on a casual basis. They still have the madonna/whore complex. ONe day he might learn.

leglover1000
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Posted - May 18 2007 : 4:31PM
And I am getting fucking tired of society calling our honies dumb.
leglover1000
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Posted - May 18 2007 : 4:36PM
Way to go random, your responses are hilarious and sum up how feel about the whole thing.
leglover1000
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Posted - May 18 2007 : 4:38PM
I'm with you bro. Keep up the good work.

leglover1000
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Posted - May 18 2007 : 4:40PM
He is not babbling he is stating facts. I love his preaching. If were a millionare, I would pay Random to preach.
leglover1000
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Posted - May 18 2007 : 4:41PM
Hardware, please do not close this thread. Yeah, it is getting heated, but there are somethings that need to be said and I am glad Random is saying it.
leglover1000
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Posted - May 18 2007 : 4:46PM
It seems from what you are saying she has the punk attitude. It is this very simple saying:

"I do this shit because I love it. You don't like what I am doing, don't fucking watch."

Random you are hitting it on the head. Keep preaching dude. Don't let the critics stop you.

I'll be honest if you did not start preaching, I would.

leglover1000
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Posted - May 18 2007 : 4:50PM
I agree. We need to stop acting like the whole world loves porn and star responding anti-porn rhetoric. Good post. Thanks Random and Tinaka for investing time in saying what I was about to say.
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