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lex5555
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Posted - Apr 29 2009 : 2:39AM
Do you know any pornstar became a real actress?
Nobody
She can start a business as: pornagency,model agency,etc.
She'isnt more intelligent of Jenna
Edited by - lex5555 on Apr 29 2009
Flash All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Apr 29 2009 : 3:49AM
This doesn't seem to be a very positive thread.
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Posted - Apr 29 2009 : 4:08AM
How about Sibel Kekilli?
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lex5555
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Posted - Apr 29 2009 : 5:03AM
Everybody know Sasha in the porn.
Few persons know Sibel Kekilli as pornstar.
Few persons know Sibel Kekilli as actress.
Also Jenna became a actress..but..never a star
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Posted - Apr 29 2009 : 5:04AM
I'm fairly certain deliberate insults of performers don't fly here.
 
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Posted - Apr 29 2009 : 5:08AM
Also, what exactly is your point with this thread? Are you offended by the fact that she's gotten some mainstream exposure and a role in a mainstream movie? Is she too uppity for you?
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Posted - Apr 29 2009 : 5:10AM
Um, pornstars are real actresses.
I assume you meant to ask if there are any pornstars who crossed over into mainstream film.
The answer is that quite a few porn stars have appeared in mainstream films. To date, none of them have become big mainstream stars. However, this shouldn't come as a surprise, as most actresses, porn or otherwise, don't become big mainstream stars.
juha
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Posted - Apr 29 2009 : 6:08AM
That might be true for the USA.
But in Germany she's a well known actress.
Regarding Sasha: It's too early to judge. But at the moment her mainstream career looks very promising.
Regarding this thread: This thread is pretty pointless.
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thread is shit. thread fails.
lex5555
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Posted - Apr 29 2009 : 9:41AM
My english must be terrible...
I love the pornstars but i don't understand why they want become actress.
I'm not a stupid fan
Pornstar is a model not a actress (for me)
The history says the best of the pornstars (Jenna) didin't become a great actress.
Early for Sasha?
Of course it's my forecast looking at past.
Edited by - lex5555 on 4/29/2009 9:45:52 AM
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Posted - Apr 29 2009 : 9:50AM
Plenty of XXX actresses have also appeared in non XXX work, in major roles.
Such as:
Marilyn Chambers (RIP)
Veronica Hart (aka Jane Hamilton)
Samantha Fox
Kelly Nichols
Susan McBain
etc...
True, none became established non-XXX actors, but if you're trying to argue that they couldn't act or that they had no reason to appear in anything non-XXX, I beg to differ.
Besides, why should any actor or actress be relegated to appearing in only one sort of film? If they're versatile and talented, their abilities ought to be recognized and their role offerings should be limitless. Not that that happens, really ever, but there's no reason is shouldn't.
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Posted - Apr 29 2009 : 11:49AM
This may or may not be the most retarded thread ever but because it's about one of my favorite girls on earth, I must chime in.
It's not by accident that Steven Soderberg chose her for his movie "The Girlfriend Experience". She has an almost-ethereal quality about her. I don't believe in any of that metaphysical nonsense but whatever an aura is, she has one. She's also very smart and I think she has the best chance out of any girl who has ever been in the industry, including Jenna, of truly "crossing over" if she wants to.
cand86
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Posted - Apr 29 2009 : 12:38PM
I don't think Sasha wants Hollywood . . . how many times does she have to say that she doesn't have mainstream crossover ambitions before people actually believe her?
So she was in a mainstream movie. Big deal. The girl obviously loves porn and her work, and we love her for that. If I can see her diversify her screen presence a bit, so much the cooler.
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Posted - Apr 29 2009 : 12:43PM
What is big deal? Fanboy confuse.
 
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Unferth
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There's a first time for everything and yes you're right, your english is terrible.
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Maybe you need a hobby that doesn't confuse you.
BigBobxxx
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Posted - Apr 29 2009 : 1:45PM
Q
Why would a XXX actress want to become a mainstream actress?
A
I'm going to go with the money
She can still fuck anyone she wants, on her terms, only from a larger pool that includes A-list celebrities (i.e. date and fuck A-list celebrities openly).
What I'm waiting for is, for performers to be able to go back-and-forth between mainstream and porn.
Maybe not in my lifetime, but someday.
Why not glorify the girls who suck cock -- instead of all the "Britney Lohans" out there?
Mainstream already tarts-up under-age girls for exploitation (and gets away with it).
Does anyone still care that Pam, Paris and Kim sucked cock for all the world to see?
If anything, it launched Kim Kardashian's career.
What would be really cool is, for an already established mainstream actress, who doesn't need the money, to openly decide to cross-over to porn (and make a career out of it... not just suck a few cocks on her way down and out).
While I agree that lex5555 has a problem with English (which is a bit funny), I'm going to guess he's not a native English speaker. And, in any case, doesn't deserve to be mocked.
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Posted - Apr 29 2009 : 2:39PM
This thread is ridiculous. If Sasha really wants Hollywood, all she has to do is take the 101 south and exit Highland. I don't hold back information. That's the kind of guy I am. If she wants Santa Monica or Glendale, I can also be of assistance.
poloprinz
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Posted - Apr 29 2009 : 2:58PM
What about Kelli McCarty?
On the OT:
Probably depends on what you define "Hollywood" as. I've heard Sasha say that she wants to produce independent films on the infamous Tyra Banks Show episode. While these might be produced in L.A., judging from her interests, i highly doubt that what she's interested in is mainstream entertainment. If you call anything that's not porn "Hollywood", then maybe, yes, that might be what she's after.
"The girlfriend experience" points in that direction. From what i've heard/read about it (and since i'm from germany, hearing rumours about this movie will probably be the closest i'll get to it), it seems a little too controversial to please the summer blockbuster crowd.
On the other hand, i don't know if i would call this a Steven Soderbergh movie regarding that he seems to be the hired director on this one (and thus, probably was chosen after Sasha was attached to the project).
Anyway, i'd like to see it, since the Grey/Soderbergh combination sounds promising (two people with true independent spirits).
And there's already more, two movies in post-production as of now. See http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2340248/
Sasha Grey might become the first actress to really cross-over without having to slam her porn career to get absolution from the mainstream (non-porn) industry. If she can pull that off, hats off to her. Best wishes from me!
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Posted - Apr 29 2009 : 3:31PM
Why would you begrudge her an attempt to act in more "mainstream" movies? Whether you think she is talented or not really doesn't matter, it's up to the people who are casting the movies. Just because she is a porn star doesn't mean she's not allowed to follow other pursuits. Fuck, the movie poster alone was worth her crossover even if she turns out to be terrible, which i don't think will be the case. As a porn fan, your best bet is to appreciate the work the girls have done in movies and not judge them outside of that. Buying porn doesn't give you the right to tell them how to run their lives or careers.
And to say "she isn't more intelligent than Jenna" is ridiculous. What are you basing this on? did you send each of them an IQ test?
Edited by - Claudzilla on 4/29/2009 3:32:50 PM
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liloleme
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Posted - Apr 29 2009 : 4:14PM
I saw the long trailer for The Girlfriend and was impressed. I will be watching the sneak peak on HDNET and am really looking fwd to it. If Sasha can act as well as it appears from the limited opportunity in Throat and from this trailer I think she does have a future in mainstream. I think that she is equally as talented if not more so as Traci Lords and though most of you are too young to remember Traci actually had a very good run including a regular supporting role on an NBC drama series.
More power to Sasha
Edited by - liloleme on 4/29/2009 4:16:09 PM
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That's not saying much.
 
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For the way she conducted herself when her own lying about her age came out and the way she blamed all but herself I had no respect for her. I thought that Cry Baby was an atrocious movie and did not at all think much of Traci as an actress.
Her later roles in sci-fi flicks were not much better but were tolerable. Then Profiler came out on NBC and after a momentary thought of "Traci, oh please" I settled in to watch. After only a few minutes of on screen time I ceased to see Traci and instead only saw the character of Jill/Sharon Lesher and that is what acting is all about. Becoming the character.
I think Sasha can do that in the right roles. Any more than that only time will tell.
juha
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Posted - Apr 29 2009 : 5:55PM
It is a true Soderbergh film. The film is part of a production deal between his company and a cable channel.
I think its great that Soderbergh still directs low budget films in between bigger projects. He hasn't forgotten his "Sex, Lies, and Videotape"-roots.
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Posted - Apr 29 2009 : 6:24PM
Let's just hope, when the mainstream thing doesn't work out, she comes back to doing the nastiest shit she did and make great porn, when she first came into the industry. In US of A, once you do hardcore porn, you can never have a successful mainstream career. Hell, even if they did Softcore. Simple as that!
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Agreed.
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^ Not to mention there are already multiple threads/discussions about The Girlfriend Experience.
I say off to the gulags with this one.
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Posted - Apr 29 2009 : 9:28PM
Ashlyn Gere did some mainstream work, too IIRC.
Instead of asking if a pornstar can become a legit mainstream celebrity, as if that's something "more" to aspire to, why does no one ever ask the reverse?
Has there ever been a mainstream actress who successfully crossed over into the world of hardcore? Are there any mainstream actresses "smart" enough to do adult movies? Do you think any mainstream actress out there could be the next Sandra Romain or Audrey Hollander?
Y'all putting these Hollywood types on a fuckin' pedestal when the truth is, they're not any more deserving of this reverential treatment than anyone else. You act like they're special or they're somehow these angels and come to a PORN forum to hold the PORNSTARS to a different standard and not-so-subtely put them down, going so far as to question their INTELLIGENCE simply because they fuck on film. Like there's not just as many dumb-as-a-box-of-rocks, vapid, drug-addicted, materialistic whores on the cover on Entertainment Weekly...well, weekly.
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King B
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Posted - Apr 29 2009 : 9:43PM
How does he know she isn't more intelligent than Jenna? From what i've heard she's very bright, sounds like someone is a Sasha hater.
MissJennaHaze
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Posted - Apr 29 2009 : 11:05PM
I think I might love you CJ just based on this post :-)
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Lindsay Lohan wants Chatsworth.
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Wade Nichols also crossed over to mainstream TV. Marilyn Chambers' performance in Rabid was good, Cronenberg was impressed and said it was a shame she didn't get more mainstream work.
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Posted - Apr 30 2009 : 12:30AM
Jenna has never struck me as particularly intelligent -- perhaps by porn standards she was, but not by mainstream standards. (and in my opinion, all you have to do is look at what she's done to her face with surgery to know she doesn't have the best judgment)
Sasha strikes me as having a natural sexuality that flows from intelligence. Time will tell.
My advice would be, take lots of acting lessons rather than trying to sneak into "the big role". There are no shortcuts. But if she can master the art of acting, more power to her.
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Posted - Apr 30 2009 : 1:39AM
When porn stars are cast in non-porn films, and are known as porn stars, it's usually for the novelty factor, or else they just need hot women who have no issues getting naked. You won't see a porn star being cast in a substantial role. Unless it's a kind of freak thing like Marilyn in "Rabid." TRaci did pretty well for herself, given her limits, but had the whole "I've divorced myself from horrible porn people and I'm remaking my life" backstory going on ...
It's much easier for legit unknown or foreign actresses to do small art flicks where they get naked and suck cock, and still be taken seriously. Chloe Sevigny may be the best-known American actress to have huffed sausage on the big screen. There's a whole low-budget film movement in which a lot of the performers get naked, jerk off, fuck each other, etc., but it's so matter of fact you'd never confuse it with "porn."
The Soderbergh experiment, which is getting a lot of traction from the casting choice, may be too different to count. But because he's one of the more important guys working who also has commercial clout, it makes a statement. Whether it's a unique event or leads to more crossovers, hard to say. What is actually more interesting to me is the possibility of a few porn stars developing their own filmmaking chops and creating something new and valid – as porn and as cinema. The seeds for that exist in the wilder flashes of the American Independent Film movement of the '60s and '70s. A lot of those were gay in subtext (Kenneth Anger, Curt McDowell, George Kuchar) or polymorphous, and tilted toward comedy or surrealism. Here is [ invalid url ], a 17 year old's gay gang bang fantasy complete with blood, guts and cum. From 1947!

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Posted - Apr 30 2009 : 1:45AM
hey, I was in that Angry Samoans film, 'True Documentary' geting stomped by the ever great Kenji Shibouya back in like 90/91. or does that count as anti-mainstream?? lates, Von S.
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Of course!
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Love is perhaps a little strong for me, CJ -- but I'm liking you a lot for this post, myself.
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Posted - Apr 30 2009 : 2:36AM
I'm not so sure that a woman's intelligence can be judged by whether or not she has had a lot of cosmetic surgery that came out badly. Judgment? Maybe. Things aren't always as simple as they might seem. There have been many brilliant people who made some terrible choices. It just shows that nobody's perfect.
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I hear you, Tim. I am in a movie called FAST SOFA, playing one of several police officers who frisk Jennifer Tilly. Hey, Julia Roberts's brother Eric Roberts is in it, too, as is Jake Busey! 6 degrees....
lex5555
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Posted - Apr 30 2009 : 8:30AM
Joking..
Sasha vs Jenna
Business:
Many movies for Jenna but without anal DP gang bang
Many movies for Sasha (but she's 21 years old) with anal dp
Jenna wins.
Too movies and extreme it isn't good idea like when FED print many billion dollars.Inflation!
For the fans it's a good idea...obviously
Tits:
Fake for Jenna
Real for Sasha
Sasha wins.She understood!
I know obviously there are some/many actress/bitch in mainstream but they will be not never stars.

Edited by - lex5555 on 4/30/2009 8:31:45 AM

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