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| Den Member 911 Posts 9/02 | Think you know Selena Silver? Wonder what her home looks like? A very good visit a Porn Star at Home. Good job by Kent Silver and released by Andy from Shot at Home! Den [Link] |
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| Coyote Member Daylight Savings Time, is it really Necessary? 972 Posts 3/04 | |
| arnie Member Australia 133 Posts 7/03 | |
| SelenaSilver Selena Silver 529 Posts 7/03 | Your kind words mean alot! This was the first ever video that I planned and shot myself and it is always great to hear that people like it. If anyone wants to read about this movie, you can click on this thread from my KSEX Radio Show Forum. I will be formally posting on ADT about it shortly. I really do think this is a cool experience for a porn fan (it is a MUST if you are a Selena Silver fan lol). This is the most intimate I have ever gotten with my personal and porn life with porn fans. Selena Silver The COMPLETE Selena Silver Movie List |
| Den Member 911 Posts 9/02 | And, thank you for being so personal with your life. I hope you start a trend with this one. You are so very unique and truly one of a kind. Thank you for an outstanding effort. Den |
| astroknight Questionable Moderator Tastes so good... 4187 Posts 11/99 | When man invented fire, he didn’t say, 'hey, let’s cook', he said, 'great, now we can see naked bottoms in the dark.' - Coupling |
| SelenaSilver Selena Silver 529 Posts 7/03 | The movie was shot for Shot At Home. Many of you know "Shot At Home" - some of you probably don't. They have focused up until now just on the amateur market. Their DVD's are real people at home filming themselves and sending in the footage. It is totally real... no acting...no stars.... just real people having sex. Shot At Home approached me about an idea they had for a whole new line for them: a porn star line - a line where the porn stars shot themselves at home. Where the porn stars give a tour of the house, show off their panty drawer and closet, masturbate, etc. Shot At Home wanted me to be the first porn star in their new line ever... And, it happened. This movie is NOT Selena Silver: The Porn Star. This movie is Selena Silver: At Home. I will admit that I had to think about it for a long time; I wasn't sure at first. Shot At Home has a market niche of people turned off by normal porn - they don't want fake breasts, overdone porn makeup, or cheesy acting. They want intimate realness. But, to a dedicated porn fan that intimate realness that Shot At Home brings can also mean by production studio standards lower quality lighting, video, and sound. I mean the average person at home shooting with a $500 camcorder and no sense of lighting or camera skills is not going to make something look like Quaserman shot it. I was concerned because I wasn't going to let my porn fans down by doing something that compromised the professional quality they would expect from me, but the same time I had to find a way to connect in the way that an existing Shot At Home audience would accept and relate to. That was a challenge that excited me. Did I succeed? I will only know after I hear your feedback. But, what really attracted me to the project? I LOVE watching girls get fucked that I feel like I know. That turns me on so much more than a faceless stranger taking it in the ass. My whole career I have tried to be as open and close to true porn fans as I can. (And, except for the shameful case of Cobalt believing I was his mother it worked. Even Skronker sees my face when he visits the neighborhood grocer!) I watched some major porn companies Porn Stars At Home type lines and saw why the Shot At Home fans don't buy it. Quite frankly, I saw some videos that were total crap. The girls weren't letting the fans in. It wasn't intimate. It was just another staged setup with a hook. I wanted something different than that. I wanted a connection that probably has been done before (I just personally haven't seen it), but that was going to make people feel about me in a way you don't normally feel about your favorite porn star. I want you to feel like you know me; like you know my life. I mean you have incredible lust for your favorite girl, but do you really know her? I promise you this... when you finish this movie you will either be turned off me or you will be turned on to me. I wanted to try to make a porn that would make you feel. This is me being the real me at home... I give a tour of the house - you can see where I sit when I write my reviews, plan my KSEX show, or reply to emails; you can see my bedroom and bed; you can see where I paint; you can see where I swim; you can see where my swinging parties happen. I tell stories about personal things that have happened in my life during that tour. I do two major interviews - one in the pool and one in the tub - where I answer every personal erotic question that I get asked: why do I do porn?...how did I really get started?...what was happening in my life before porn?...what is my relationship like with my family?...how did I lose my virginity?... what was my first girl/girl experience like?... what was my first boy/girl/girl experience like?...what was my first boy/girl/boy experience like?...what was my first gangbang like; my first orgy like?... how did I get into swinging?... do I let my husband fuck other girls?... what was it like shooting my first ever porn movie?.... what are my dreams and goals in life?... I promise to let you in farther than I have before. I talk about ADT, KSEX Radio, my porn reviews, porn fans, and friends in the industry. There is a very teasing sequence in the closet where I undress and dress in many different outfits that you have seen me wear in different porn movies - the whole time I am talking to the you...and it gets pretty dirty... There is an even more teasing scene where I dance to "Lush" as I strip tease in front of the floor to ceiling windows at dusk with the lights of the city behind me... I watch one of my favorite porn scenes with you and describe what I am thinking and feeling during it; I talk about the DP happening in the scene. When I started wanting to do things like that... Oh, and there is some great solo sex too... The opening scene is one of my favorites. Masturbating on a wooden floor underneath of Buddha... Then there is me making tea and deciding I should masturbate while I wait - racing the clock to see who comes first... me or the teapot... Then there is the scene that happens every single week for real - I always make myself come with a vibrator when I do my reviews. In this scene, I sit at my office desk and start a review... before pulling out the vibrator and working myself to come. And, in the end - there is a rousing dildo DP scene on my bed. Except for the part where I play dress up in the closet for you, I am in normal at home clothes - my tank tops and comfortable pants... No fancy makeup. The movie is all me - the real me. I planned what I wanted to do; my husband ran the camera for me - no crew. I directed my first movie and it was the most intimate, revealing thing I have ever done. I don't think you would want to miss it... The movie itself is 86 minutes long and there are three DVD extras ("More Selena", a "Bonus Scene", and a preview of 3 other Shot At Home movies). It was a challenge making a whole movie about one girl - so I broke it up. The average scene has you for 5 minutes tops before it shift you somewhere else. This DVD is available NOW. Want to see the first ever Selena Silver directed movie? Want to take a seriously intimate look inside a porn star's life? Give it a shot... For now - here is a couple of pics from the movie...
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| astroknight Questionable Moderator Tastes so good... 4187 Posts 11/99 | When man invented fire, he didn’t say, 'hey, let’s cook', he said, 'great, now we can see naked bottoms in the dark.' - Coupling |
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| SelenaSilver Selena Silver 529 Posts 7/03 | I am really glad that Steph asked me (what seems like ages ago!) to do a Porn Pick of the Week review. It really let me analyze what I thought was a good movie and what I didn't think was a good movie. And, after writing 39 of my own, after reading over 100 reviews written about movies I am in, and after reading hundreds of other reviews I have learned one simple thing: porn is all about taste . For everything I love about a movie, someone else is going to hate it. Porn is about fetishes, turn-on's, and turn-off's. Person A demands the shoes on and refuses to watch a scene unless they are on; Person B demands the shoes off and refuses to watch the scene unless they are off. Person C hates spitting, choking, and slapping and won't touch a movie that has it; Person D believes that any movie without it is lame and won't watch it. That is why I decided to go to a review format that listed every act in every scene - giving you the information to make up your own mind whether you personally would like this movie. I have had people write that they have bought a movie only because of my reviews; I have had people write saying they were going to buy a movie and didn't because of my review (even though I was recommending it!). Because of this learning process I was fortunate enough to go through, I was mentally ready for my very first review of a movie I created. I was nervous, but I wasn't going to be stung by criticism the way I might have been without this golden nugget of truth: porn is all about taste. I didn't know how this movie was going to play out. It is a unique movie for our industry. I am really, really pleased that so far both Den and Astroknight - two reviewers who I respect a great deal - have dug this movie. It is fascinating watching the difference in taste even among people who like it. My favorite part of the whole movie is the dancing to music in the darkness of dusk. I think it really captured how comfortable that house is and my favorite time of day. Den didn't agree. He thought it was just too dark of lighting. Astro agreed - he found it erotic. A PERFECT example of taste. And, you know what - they are both right! Everyone has their own taste. Did that scene work? Ultimately, only you can decide. (So go buy the movie, dammitt, and report back here! lol) It was interesting seeing Astro commenting on the sound quality. While Andy at Shot At Home gave me total freedom to create the movie, he was very, very strict on telling me that the movie had to retain a "home video" feel. That was the hardest part for me. I care alot about professional quality and I have been studying people like Guy Capo! I didn't want to compromise video quality - so that left sound and camera work. With the sound: if I was shooting this for a studio, I would have used a boom mic. That would have meant perfect sound anywhere, it would have allowed us to filter out background noise better, and then we would have worked on the sound mixing. I decided to go with the standard camera mic and not edit the sound. Home video. I am glad Astro felt that had an "authentic" feel. That is what I was going for. God, was it tough trying to nail both niches! The bottom line though... my goal was to make a very personal and intimate movie. To me- that is incredibly sexy. I am really glad that it appears that the reviewers feel that goal was achieved in this movie. I can't wait to hear the fan feedback as they start to order the movie. I told Andy at Shot At Home that after I finished it, I was really proud of it. And, that it really made me want to shoot a line of Porn Stars At Home - really capturing porn stars as who they are. There are so many talented, intelligent, creative girls in this business - each with something unique to offer the world. I have respect so many girls in this industry and love a lot of them. There is so much about them that you don't know. Things that I think would fascinate you and turn you on even more if you knew them. I am seriously thinking about shooting a line where I spend a couple of days with a porn girl and really capture - them - just like this move. What do you think about that idea? A very important notice... We are only giving away to fans 1 FREE copy of this movie.... and it is happening today. I am going to be featuring this release on my KSEX radio show today . I am going to show some clips and talk about it. Andy from Shot At Home is calling into the show to discuss the project from his viewpoint. And, we are playing a game the entire show. A game where the fans participate and compete against each other. (It is going to be a lot of fun - remember the game we played here on ADT for the month of October???). The winner gets the only autographed copy of the movie going out FREE to porn fans. Hope to see you in the chat room competing tonight... You don't have to have the member based video feed to play. The free radio feed and free chat room are all you need. A Message to Denver Don... DD - I am glad you are ordering the movie. Because this movie was made for fans like you. I only know you from reading your posts on this site and gathering my picture of you from the way you write. But, to me - you are one of the most important people on this site. I have so much respect for you ability to capture the positive in everyone. You have made me laugh until I can not stop and you have made me shed tears in gratitude. I am not exagerating when I say that when I picture the ultimate porn fan, I picture you. You are sweet and caring and you always make me feel good about myself . I love you, DD. If every porn girl knew you - they would all open up to porn fans in an amazing way. People ask me all the time... what is like meeting porn fans at conventions? Are they creepy? Are you scared? I have other porn girls who laugh at the idea of taking the time to write to fans. They don't respect the fans. To be fair - just like some fans (they ones the picture in their head when they think of fans) don't respect porn girls. My answer is always the same - I have had a 100% perfect experience with porn fans. I adore them. Of course, I have got to know them through ADT. You guys keep thanking me for talking about ADT. Guys - ADT is my home too! lol I love this place and I love the people in it. I promote it just like you promote it. I will always be here - even when I have retired from the business one day and once again just become a porn fan only. I think it is really cool that guys like Bono and Morbid can come to a VIP only porn party thrown by DVSX and hang out with us porn girls. You HAVE no idea how huge that is unless you were there. These guys were sitting right in the middle of all the directors and girls who make the movies you watch. Talking to them...hugging them....taking pictures with them... watching the lesbo action lol...getting drink after drink from the endless vodka bottles... These guys were INSIDE the roped off area and all the guys OUTSIDE the roped off area on the dance floor were looking in at them wishing they were them. Bono and Morbid were the envy of every male in that place. Are Bono and Morbid special guys? Well, yes.. they are polite and respectful and kind. The girls are comfortable around them and trust them. And, the girls fully welcomed them in. Why? Because of ADT. Without ADT, we would never have gotten to know Bono-One. We never would have gotten to know that he is trustable. So, we would have never let him inside the velvet rope. ADT gave him a chance to show himself and chance to make friends with the people in the business he loves. And, there are people on ADT like DVSX - and all the other companies and directors and stars that post here as equals with all of you - who are also good people and aren't stuck up snobs who think they are above you. How cool of DVSX was it that they invited these guys into the VIP party? I mean these guys are at the same party that freakin Belladonna is at!!! I will say it once and I will say it always....without porn fans there are no porn stars. And, without the special and unique place - the only place in the world - that ADT is... these two worlds wouldn't really mix. Not in the intimate way that this place on the web that many of us love and call home makes possible. So here is to ADT! (I assume you are raising your glass with me *smile*) And, here is to the first Selena Silver shot movie: Selena Silver At Home. I hope you tune into the show today to try and win the ONLY FREE copy being given away. And, if you don't win it -I hope you rush out and order it immediately. *smile* I can't wait to hear your feedback about this move...
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| DenverDon Benevolent Firmly Embedded in Depravity 5914 Posts 7/02 | I probably need at least a dozen more blushies. About all I can respond with is that the feeling is mutual. You have come on the boards and shared yourself with us, and in that manner we have learned to love and appreciate Selena Silver the person, not Selena Silver the star. (Although we get that too.) It's great to hear that you will stick around because if we lost Selena Silver, it would be a real loss for ADT. (... and a few other names also come to mind, Tricia, ...) From the two reviews that have been written, and your own input here in this thread, it sounds like you are just crossing the t's and dotting the i's for Selena, the person. Thanks for being here. (Your SO is a damn lucky guy.) DenverDon |
| astroknight Questionable Moderator Tastes so good... 4187 Posts 11/99 | When man invented fire, he didn’t say, 'hey, let’s cook', he said, 'great, now we can see naked bottoms in the dark.' - Coupling |
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| SelenaSilver Selena Silver 529 Posts 7/03 | Andy, the founder of Shot At Home, will be on my KSEX radio show tonight via the telephone to talk about his company's vision, this movie, where he intends to go with the Porn Star line, and to answer any questions you might have. You can post any Shot At Home questions for Andy here... Selena Silver The COMPLETE Selena Silver Movie List |
| ShotAtHome Shot At Home 18 Posts 7/03 | Thanks for the great review Astro! |
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| SelenaSilver Selena Silver 529 Posts 7/03 | Read the Reviews: Read the Disucssion Threads: --> Price Search "Selena Silver At Home" DVD Selena Silver The COMPLETE Selena Silver Movie List Edited by - SelenaSilver on 6/28/2004 2:25:48 AM |
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| SelenaSilver Selena Silver 529 Posts 7/03 | Shot At Home hasn't shipped internationally before. They are working right now on a solution so that international customers can get this as well. As you can imagine, I have a bunch of people from Australia who are wanting to get their hands on it... ;) Selena Silver The COMPLETE Selena Silver Movie List |
| Silent Jay Member Venus De Costello 694 Posts 12/02 | Selena is So Warn & Welcoming in This Also She Has a Home To Kill For I Loved Hearing About Your First G/G Experience Must Give All Thanks To Kent For Introducing Selena to the Swinging Lifestyle The Panty Drawer Scene Just Fuckin Rocked Selena You Need More Purple in Your Drawer There a Few Video Problems when Kent Went Into Zoom But It's Not Too Bad Selena Much Thanks/Respect To You For Revealing So Much of Yourself and Your Home Check It Out All Silent Jay - Host of the NON-Televised "Silent Jay Show" |
| DenverDon Benevolent Firmly Embedded in Depravity 5914 Posts 7/02 | Compared to the few amateur movies I have seen (and normally don't go for that much), this is simply awesome in comparison. Good job Selena, and I'll probably finish it tonight. DenverDon |
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| DenverDon Benevolent Firmly Embedded in Depravity 5914 Posts 7/02 | Second, there are three excellent reviews of the shot at home movie. Third, there are comments about the shot at home film by bono-ONE in addition to his review describing the movie. Last, but not least, there are Selena’s own comments in this thread about the film. These reviews and postings describe the scene by scene content much better than I could, so I will just make a few random observations and comments instead of describing the film and scenes. Organization: Too many amateur or shot-at-home are simply too random for my taste. Selena avoided this. She obviously had sat down and planned the sequence of shots and locations and how she wanted it presented. This is not scripted, per se, but planned and organized. The result is a very good flow from one scene and location to another as she shares a weekend with you and a tour of her house. Camera work: I was not expecting much in this area, and as such I was very pleasantly surprised. I dislike the ‘tripod mounted’ shots (ala Pierre Woodman – Casting series) which seem to pervade the amateur market. One of the previews included on this DVD has an example where a woman deep throats (successfully I might add) her partner but half the penis, and therefore half the action, are off the screen at the bottom. The camera work IMO is very well done, with the camera moving around to get different angles, some closer shots, and some all inclusive distance shots. Kudos to Kent Silver. Sure, it’s not Mike Quasar, Stagliano, or John Leslie, but very good for this genre. Lighting: Again I was not expecting much in this area and again I was very pleasantly surprised. Hell lighting can be a bugaboo for fairly experienced shooters. Some can shoot indoors well, but are crap in sunlight, and vice versa. With one exception, both the indoor and outdoor shots were well done and you could clearly see everything. Indoors, you could see Selena and the whole room, and since she was giving a tour of her house that was important. The exception? The dance scene in the evening at the large windows with the city lights in the background. It was too dark for me. Having said that though, I know it would be one hell of a challenge for the best expert to get clear lighting of Selena and still have the city light showing up well. The only other ‘glitch’ was the zoom shots. Andy, from Shot-at-home, has already mentioned it somewhere here on the forums but I can’t find that reference at the moment. But the sound track carried on smoothly through the ‘glitch’ area and overall it is minor. Again, kudos to Kent Silver. Sound: Usually pretty poor IMO in amateur movies. Again I was very pleasantly surprised. It was even pretty well throughout the movie and I did not have to constantly crank the volume up or down. You could hear what Selena was saying. There was the occasional bump, or knock, as they moved around the house, but never enough to get in the way. Without directional mikes or booms, it came out very well. Interview, or answering question: I like BTS and interviews in general, but I am tired of the disembodied male voice asking the questions to be answered by the girl on screen – “How old were you when you first had sex?” IMO, the best interviews were given by Simon Wolfe where the girl repeated what the question was and then answered it. This is exactly what Selena did, and it was not concentrated in a single scene but distributed. Great, I liked that. Randon thoughts: Your kitchen, I loved it. Damn that is a kitchen I could certainly enjoy getting into and womping up a few goodies. You said your house was a clothes free zone but trust me, you wouldn’t want me nekkid in your kitchen. Oh, and you certainly looked enticing standing there topless and pleasuring yourself while making tea. I had to chuckle when you were watching the monitor and making notes for a review, and then tossing yourself off. I’ve only written a few reviews, but if I tried tossing myself off while making notes to write a review – I never would have been able to submit a single review. A thought kept running through my mind with the chatter/patter in several scenes. You were talking to the viewer (not Kent the cameraman). You have never mentioned it, but are you sure that you have never been a phone sex girl? Damn lady, I think you could talk a load out of even the most reluctant phone sex aficionado. Umm, that is meant as a compliment. Note to DB Are you listening? There are orgasms in this movie, but there is not a single pop-shot! None. Nada. Zilch. Zero. It would score well in your scoring system. Also in regards to the orgasms, thank you for showing it the way it is. In my own personal experience it takes a few moments for the lady to settle back down. Too often in porn movies, the girl supposedly has one and then 1/10 of a second later is pounding hard again. It was a pleasure to see the few moments of coming down, savoring the whole thing, and having the camera stay on it. It made it so much more real. Selena made a few comments in her first statement in this thread of what she hoped to accomplish: Mission Accomplished Selena and Kent. If more amateur stuff was done like this I would be more of a fan of it.Summary: Overall I would give this a 4.5 rating. Where did it drop? With the zoom glitch, though it was minor was still there, and the dark scene. Guess I go more with Den Cavr on this aspect. But I am very glad I purchased it, and I will treasure it for the inside glimpses of Selena – the person, that it contains and there are not many movies that I would ever give a 4.5 to. (Final comment: Geez Selena, I’ve just re-read my ramblings. I hope you don’t feel I dissected it too much. The scene by scene reviews had already been done so well by others that I tried to take a different approach.)
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| skronker Notable Legendary Icon Scopophiliac 9780 Posts 9/02 | |
| dumblonde Senior Member 2352 Posts 7/00 | I'm sure that the guys who have posted in this thread have no problem, that just seeing a sexy girl masturbating is enough (and thanks for that visual, skronk ;) but for others, is it a problem? For me it isn't, but I'm much less visually oriented. |
| DenverDon Benevolent Firmly Embedded in Depravity 5914 Posts 7/02 | For me, it's a lot of the visual, stimulation, etc. that leads up to the popshot rather than the popshot itself. I can also get going pretty well with stuff like this Selena movie, which is the topic of this thread, and g/g scenes. DenverDon |
| Zoid Senior Member Boobies and Anal 2004 Posts 5/04 | Now something on topic:
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| DenverDon Benevolent Firmly Embedded in Depravity 5914 Posts 7/02 | Here's an example. Give a review of a car, an airplane, a bicycle. Three modes of transportation. You couldn't reasonably use the same criteria to evaluate or review the performance of the three. 0-60 just wouldn't apply to the bicycle. I used a slightly diffferent set of criteria when I was looking at the movie, and in the context of 'amateur, shot-at-home' the movie comes up very high. DenverDon |
| astroknight Questionable Moderator Tastes so good... 4187 Posts 11/99 | When man invented fire, he didn’t say, 'hey, let’s cook', he said, 'great, now we can see naked bottoms in the dark.' - Coupling |
| Zoid Senior Member Boobies and Anal 2004 Posts 5/04 | I have mixed feeling about the score. For me, movie with full 5 stars means a masterpiece, perfection, a must-buy for every porn viewer. By giving a movie 5 stars, you are suggesting it's perfect and that, basically, it can't be improved. Are you honestly saying that this movie can't be better than it already is??? astroknight, you write (in the review): Now the question is, what if the movie DID have more variety in sex? Maybe it would have been a better movie. What score would you give it then? 6 stars?You always need to keep something in reserve. |
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