Southern porn stars, who don't do black men (page 3)

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ntfighter Member 645 Posts 7/07	Posted - Sep 20 2008 : 10:19AM cross wrote: It's a preference thing, if a girl doesn't want to do a scene with a black guy she shouldn't have to Click to expand Damn, here it is again. [Link]
Bobcat Senior Member 1490 Posts 2/08	Posted - Sep 20 2008 : 10:21AM Clam Digger wrote: As for me, this crap about judging female pornstars as racist because they haven't done one of these scenes, is just another way of trying to cover their innate conflicts over race and women. Click to expand I'd go along with the above statement! I'd ask anyone who's being critical of non-IR female performers to take a look at the garbage this studio is putting out (I'm sure you can find the 4 relevant titles on the page that is linked to). Is it wrong that a women should want to dissociated herself from this? [Link]
NewRomancer Deactivated User under THEIR avatar 738 Posts 7/08	Posted - Sep 20 2008 : 10:28AM "if a girl doesn't want to do a scene with a black guy she shouldn't have to" Show me where, in the universal description of "Porn Star" it says, that a girl has to do ANYTHING she doesn't want to do... Then show me one instance where choosing to NOT do IR isn't a blatant example of bigotry.... [Link]
killbillvol69 All-Star Member ^Lucy Pinder 18635 Posts 4/08	Posted - Sep 20 2008 : 3:14PM Clam Digger wrote: Since it is in a different thread (Racial Sex Scenes) and I spent some time fruitlessly search for the post in this one, I have taken the liberty to cut & paste it here. IMHO Tritone nails it: Click to expand Clam Digger, the reason Bobcat referred to that post (and why he used the little "up arrow") is because I quoted and linked to it in my post directly above his. To be fair, you quoted the post in its entirety, whereas I only quoted part of it. But still, it shouldn't have taken you forever to find it: you only needed to look up! All teasing aside... Yes, as I mentioned, I agree with you that it seems the most likely reason for white males to specifically seek out BM/WF porn. I also mentioned another reason, which I deduced partially from the kinds of things discussed in the article you quoted about racial myths: that the white male may consider the black male to be "hypersexual", and thus want to see this "hypersexual creature" in action. It's a similar, though perhaps not identical, motivation as the one Tritone described. I was willing to accept that there may be other motivations, even though I consider these to be the most likely. So I ask again, because I am genuinely curious, if anyone else has any ideas why a white male might specifically seek out BM/WF porn (as in, not wanting to watch it because it looks like a good porn scene, but wanting to watch it because it features a black male having sex with a white - or non-black - female). [Link]

BlackSix All-Star Member pornography wasn't sex but fantasies of an impossibly hospitable world 12377 Posts 9/07	Posted - Sep 20 2008 : 4:49PM I find I like black male performers as they tend to not be as misogynistic and focused on anal or circus acts as white performers/directors. A major generalization obviously, but I find it generally holds true. But I don't really care if the woman is white, asian or black; I like all flavours of women as long as they're cute with a fine booty! [Link]
RandomPrecision Senior Member Enjoy! 8175 Posts 3/06	Posted - Sep 20 2008 : 5:03PM Thunderbird wrote: When a woman decides to fuck random strangers as an escort/prostitute or in front of the camera for money, she's a WHORE by definition and the only color that should matter to a whore is Green$$. Full Stop!! Stop making excuses for them and let them post here and defend themselves. Click to expand Ridiculous. This is the reasoning of a 12 year old. Porn girls don't have to do anything. No more than a prostitute has to fuck you just because you have money. If she doesn't like you (for whatever reason), she can say no. Don't get me wrong. I think it's ridiculous if a porn girl will fuck any white guy who comes along but refuses to fuck a black guy. But that's her problem. She has issues. Whatever. In the meantime, girls who don't have similar issues get paid. [Link]
killbillvol69 All-Star Member ^Lucy Pinder 18635 Posts 4/08	Posted - Sep 20 2008 : 5:17PM @BlackSix: thanks for your response. As you say, it may be a generalization... but if it's one that holds true quite often, then it would be silly to ignore it. [Link]
RandomPrecision Senior Member Enjoy! 8175 Posts 3/06	Posted - Sep 20 2008 : 6:08PM As to why I like IR? Because it's porn, I guess. It doesn't matter to me what color the dude is. I think IR tends to be better because the girls who do like it tend to be more enthusiastic. [Link]
SJOriginal Member I'm not bad, I'm just drawn that way 158 Posts 9/08	Posted - Sep 20 2008 : 7:43PM Care to provide me some links? I dont mean to rowel people here but surely you must agree with what I've posted, dont you?? [/quote] Thunderbird No I do not agree with you, this is a complex, multifaceted subject and has been answered multiple ways by different bloggers. For their answers simply back track through the blog to see everyone's response. This issue most like all issues is ... subjective. There is no right or wrong answer, only opinions. Because you or anyone else thinks their way is the right way; does not make it so. Discussion is good; name calling bad. Thank you for withdrawing the unpleasantness and enjoy ADT. [Link]
ntfighter Member 645 Posts 7/07	Posted - Sep 20 2008 : 9:04PM SJOriginal wrote: Care to provide me some links? I dont mean to rowel people here but surely you must agree with what I've posted, dont you?? Click to expand Thunderbird No I do not agree with you, this is a complex, multifaceted subject and has been answered multiple ways by different bloggers. For their answers simply back track through the blog to see everyone's response. This issue most like all issues is ... subjective. There is no right or wrong answer, only opinions. Because you or anyone else thinks their way is the right way; does not make it so. Discussion is good; name calling bad. Thank you for withdrawing the unpleasantness and enjoy ADT. Click to expand SJOriginal It is a joy to have you posting here. I'm a big fan. Edited by - ntfighter on 9/20/2008 9:37:38 PM [Link]
felonycharm Member 18 Posts 1/08	Posted - Sep 20 2008 : 9:43PM This topic has been ran into the ground for years debated over & over, but my opinion on this would be this:listen up>>We live in a society where when a black man is with a white women it is just so taboo, it has been like that hundreds of years, a lot of white men (not all} feel very intimadated by the thought of a black mans cock going deep inside a pretty blond white women's Orifices porn is no exception to this rule, it is like some veiwers of porn think a white women loses her purness when they fuck a black man on camera,it seems like to me it is only a IR flick when there is a black man & a white women on the screen, white women have sex with spanish men paccific islander men,I,E {Marco banderas}and know one has that much of a prob with that, but when it is a afro-american man there is always a prob, that is like i said,there is so much taboo in that,and all the stereo types that porn directers add to this,MY WIFE IS FUCKIN A NEgrO and other titles like that,but when black women do white men, that is not much of a big deal in porn, that is what she suppose to do, if you had black porn starlets refusing to fuck white talent,it would just be like oh well,but if she chooses that,she will not be a very big market porn star,like women such as Jada fire,and other black women that do porn with white men,the thing is it is all about the fuckin, if it is a good scene it is just a good scene no matter what the color of the performer is, it is all about MAn & Women, Dick & Pussy,and that should be the true testament of it,and more and more u see white women doing Ir,girls like Gina lynn,Mrs.D'nyle have open up the flood gates for this,It did not hurt there careers, it only enhanced them by opening them up to a broader market of people, u know,So other porn ladies need to follow there lead, because most women you hear about that refuse, women like Harmony,Alexis TExas, they are not as big as those ladies that i just mention and it did not hurt them, So they must have other reservations about sex with black men....ITS ALL POrn PEOPLE [Link]
Dirty Bob Member Lap Dance Connoisseur 209 Posts 2/03	Posted - Sep 20 2008 : 11:37PM Southern porn stars, who don't do black men? Mike South (heh heh)... [Link]
William Hyde Member 112 Posts 3/06	Posted - Sep 21 2008 : 7:03AM skronker wrote: Really, who gives a fuck? Click to expand [Link]
SunShowers Member 333 Posts 4/08	Posted - Sep 21 2008 : 11:36AM Adult actresses have turn ons and turn offs just like everybody else. The popular and successful starlets are the ones who don't take this as a mere job and enjoy fucking. When you consider the plethora of attractive porn studs, such as Manuel Ferrera, Steve Holmes, Mark Wood, and Mick Blue, it's not surprising it becomes more than just a job for the truly committed. And as lame and idealistic as this may sound, I imagine that a lot of the action in porn comes from pure attraction and affection. Just look at Manuel Ferrera's scenes. The man is a lover and I can't imagine any woman staring at the clock while she's with him. The same goes for the others. It is unreasonable to expect porn stars to fuck any old person you put in front of them. It's a highly undignified profession, but it isn't made up of mindless autobots. It's made up of people. Libidinous and crazy as some of them may be... Why should the industry force masses of beautiful, ready-to-work women out on the streets because a handful of fans are pissed off when there are thousands of white males in this country who could care less? When all it would do is cost the industry cash? And it strikes me as highly peculiar that you are trying to fight a race battle in the arena of... pornography? Am I the only one who finds that bizarre? You can't change people's minds and you can't force them to fight their demons. So instead of concentrating on the actresses who won't fuck black men, concentrate on those who will. There are plenty of pretty actresses who do IR. [Link]

SJOriginal Member I'm not bad, I'm just drawn that way 158 Posts 9/08	Posted - Sep 21 2008 : 5:36PM Ntfighter - Thank you and a pleasure ... it's fun! I wish I had more time, but my day is full of the usual interruptions. You must be 110 years old if you are a fan !!!! :):):) To the rest of the "Who gives a fuck" bloggers ... well, obviously quite a few! Look back at the 4 pages, multiple answers, heated discussions and more. It is quite apparent that a ton of you folk "give a fuck", so why ask that question? It is a topic that touch people, rowel em' up and gets underneath their skin. It is infact the one issue that is clearly resolved? I.e. "Who gives a fuck"? About 50 people just on this blog. Sarah Jane x [Link]
awall Deactivated User 58 Posts 8/08	Posted - Sep 21 2008 : 5:37PM SunShowers wrote: Adult actresses have turn ons and turn offs just like everybody else. The popular and successful starlets are the ones who don't take this as a mere job and enjoy fucking. When you consider the plethora of attractive porn studs, such as Manuel Ferrera, Steve Holmes, Mark Wood, and Mick Blue, it's not surprising it becomes more than just a job for the truly committed. And as lame and idealistic as this may sound, I imagine that a lot of the action in porn comes from pure attraction and affection. Just look at Manuel Ferrera's scenes. The man is a lover and I can't imagine any woman staring at the clock while she's with him. The same goes for the others. It is unreasonable to expect porn stars to fuck any old person you put in front of them. It's a highly undignified profession, but it isn't made up of mindless autobots. It's made up of people. Libidinous and crazy as some of them may be... Why should the industry force masses of beautiful, ready-to-work women out on the streets because a handful of fans are pissed off when there are thousands of white males in this country who could care less? When all it would do is cost the industry cash? And it strikes me as highly peculiar that you are trying to fight a race battle in the arena of... pornography? Am I the only one who finds that bizarre? You can't change people's minds and you can't force them to fight their demons. So instead of concentrating on the actresses who won't fuck black men, concentrate on those who will. There are plenty of pretty actresses who do IR. Click to expand Actresses will fuck any old guy put in front of them, as long as hes not black. They are robots for the most part. Black guys are the only humans women will refuse to work with. You will never catch a girl who will do blacks but nobody else, no matter how old or disgusting he may be. Black guys are the bottom of the barrel in porn. This is not fighting a race battle, its simple internet debates. Don't like it, don't reply, because they will continue forever and ever. [Link]
Clam Digger Deactivated User Many a man fails as an original thinker simply because his memory is too good. 2268 Posts 1/05	Posted - Sep 21 2008 : 5:42PM SJOriginal; You haven't seen the 100 other threads about this subject that have been started here on ADT. Every couple of months a newbie (or an old troll) starts one up. [Link]
RandomPrecision Senior Member Enjoy! 8175 Posts 3/06	Posted - Sep 21 2008 : 5:56PM awall wrote: This is not fighting a race battle, its simple internet debates. Don't like it, don't reply, because they will continue forever and ever. Click to expand Debates are one thing. When you say shit like that, it immediately sends up red flags that you're simply trolling. [Link]
ntfighter Member 645 Posts 7/07	Posted - Sep 21 2008 : 8:25PM Clam Digger wrote: SJOriginal; You haven't seen the 100 other threads about this subject that have been started here on ADT. Every couple of months a newbie (or an old troll) starts one up. Click to expand There is nothing trollish about this subject. You have nothing worthwhile to contribute you are invited to STFU. Just be happy nothing of the sort is, or will happen to you. The prevailing attitude in the porn industry and apparently in America judging from the responses in this and other threads, is that there in something wrong or different about African American. As a American,and a fan I am one of those affected. I am concerned. The majority of women in porn make the statement "I will not work with blacks" that implies a "culture" of racism just as there was a culture of pedophilia in the Catholic priesthood. People in porn are involved in other businesses. I don't believe for one minute that their biased actions are only confined to discrimination on the set. Damn right I'm concerned and disturbed. I would hope that in my field of endeavors were I to face blatant discrimination that the majority of my co-worked would do the right thing and stand with me. Edited by - ntfighter on 9/21/2008 8:26:36 PM [Link]
Clam Digger Deactivated User Many a man fails as an original thinker simply because his memory is too good. 2268 Posts 1/05	Posted - Sep 21 2008 : 11:41PM There is nothing trollish about this subject. You have nothing worthwhile to contribute you are invited to STFU. Just be happy nothing of the sort is, or will happen to you. The prevailing attitude in the porn industry and apparently in America judging from the responses in this and other threads, is that there in something wrong or different about African American. ...... Click to expand ....you should actually read the post you criticize... [Link]
RandomPrecision Senior Member Enjoy! 8175 Posts 3/06	Posted - Sep 21 2008 : 11:54PM Ntfighter - I just have one very simple question for you. What do you think should be done about it? You've ran this issue into the ground but I haven't seen you suggest any solution that could possibly work. I don't see any shortage of IR porn. There's plenty to choose from. [Link]
SJOriginal Member I'm not bad, I'm just drawn that way 158 Posts 9/08	Posted - Sep 22 2008 : 12:53AM Clam Digger wrote: SJOriginal; You haven't seen the 100 other threads about this subject that have been started here on ADT. Every couple of months a newbie (or an old troll) starts one up. Click to expand Yikes already!!! That's quite a few. I guess people really, really do "give a fuck"!!!! There are so many myths and misconceptions from fans and outsiders; it's blowing my mind! Each to their own I guess. Sarah Jane x [Link]
SJOriginal Member I'm not bad, I'm just drawn that way 158 Posts 9/08	Posted - Sep 22 2008 : 12:59AM ntfighter wrote: Clam Digger wrote: SJOriginal; You haven't seen the 100 other threads about this subject that have been started here on ADT. Every couple of months a newbie (or an old troll) starts one up. Click to expand Ntfighter, you know I didn't write the "trollish" comment? I understand completely this It's a subject that really gets to people. Its content may be the same, but it manifests itself in different ways. I think IR, racism, and all that is contained in these threads is an interesting topic and more so then say, "Who has the biggest tits". Though ... that has its fun and compelling side too!!!! P.S Summer Cummings ... !:):) [Link]
ntfighter Member 645 Posts 7/07	Posted - Sep 22 2008 : 1:36AM RandomPrecision wrote: Ntfighter - I just have one very simple question for you. What do you think should be done about it? You've ran this issue into the ground but I haven't seen you suggest any solution that could possibly work. I don't see any shortage of IR porn. There's plenty to choose from. Click to expand RP I'm sure you see that blacks in the industry are assigned to a niche. Second class. The porn industry is as jim crow as it can be and still make a buck. Any more separation, pushing blacks out would amount to segregation. American society is what it is. I only have control over what I choose to believe. I think the solution starts here: "Name it". Call it by its name. Edited by - ntfighter on 9/22/2008 1:50:59 AM [Link]

Dean Wormer Senior Member Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life, son. 1048 Posts 7/04	Posted - Sep 22 2008 : 2:09AM ^^^ ntfighter I'm sure that you've seen my suggestions in this thread. Perhaps you should give either of those gentlemen a call and see if they can be of any help. Certainly they would be all for pressuring certain young women to have sex with someone that they do not want to have sex with especially if the reason is that the men are black. [Link]
Royal Tee Member 665 Posts 6/07	Posted - Sep 22 2008 : 2:15AM Dean Wormer wrote: ^^^ ntfighter I'm sure that you've seen my suggestions in this thread. Perhaps you should give either of those gentlemen a call and see if they can be of any help. Certainly they would be all for pressuring certain young women to have sex with someone that they do not want to have sex with especially if the reason is that the men are black. Click to expand I doubt two REVERENDS would come to ther defense of the ponr industry. [Link]
RandomPrecision Senior Member Enjoy! 8175 Posts 3/06	Posted - Sep 22 2008 : 3:56AM ntfighter wrote: I think the solution starts here: "Name it". Call it by its name. Click to expand It's discrimination. So what? We've been over and over this on this board. Everybody discriminates. When was the last time you fucked somebody you didn't want to fuck for the sake of equality? [Link]
ntfighter Member 645 Posts 7/07	Posted - Sep 22 2008 : 5:35PM RandomPrecision wrote: ntfighter wrote: I think the solution starts here: "Name it". Call it by its name. Click to expand It's discrimination. So what? We've been over and over this on this board. Everybody discriminates. When was the last time you fucked somebody you didn't want to fuck for the sake of equality? Click to expand It is racism. The very rational for slavery, or maybe it's only racism. Name it. Everybody's squirting around the word like water on a hot skillet. Every little bit of it that appear erodes the fundamental of the society. Anyone has a right to be as racist as they want... in their private life, fuck who you will in your bedroom. You make the choice to become a public person your right to racist behavior ends that moment. We are all expected to conform our behavior to a societal standard the porn business does not get a pass. So what? ^^^Sotto voce,is Dean Wormer standing behind you with a gun to your head forcing you to write. If so begin your next post with "I love Bush." and I'll send help. [Link]
ntfighter Member 645 Posts 7/07	Posted - Sep 22 2008 : 5:42PM SJOriginal wrote: ntfighter wrote: Clam Digger wrote: SJOriginal; You haven't seen the 100 other threads about this subject that have been started here on ADT. Every couple of months a newbie (or an old troll) starts one up. Click to expand Ntfighter, you know I didn't write the "trollish" comment? I understand completely this It's a subject that really gets to people. Its content may be the same, but it manifests itself in different ways. I think IR, racism, and all that is contained in these threads is an interesting topic and more so then say, "Who has the biggest tits". Though ... that has its fun and compelling side too!!!! P.S Summer Cummings ... !:):) Click to expand I was attempting to reply to the post above you. I know from your post, and I hang on your every word, that you are much to classy to make a boorish comment on what is a critical subject to at at least one poster (me)here. I might have responded to the wrong thread, my bad. [Link]
Sean Renaud Member 181 Posts 7/07	Posted - Sep 22 2008 : 6:18PM You make the choice to become a public person your right to racist behavior ends that moment. We are all expected to conform our behavior to a societal standard the porn business does not get a pass. So what? Click to expand The fact is that while this is true it shouldn't be. If I don't want to serve blacks in my McDonalds that should be my decision. If I don't want to work along side a Mexican at Wal-mart that should be my call as well. If I don't want any women working for me at my Apple Store that too should be my choice. I say bravo that porn still gives people the right to choose who they do and don't work with, for, and around. It's my money, my time and my body and nobody has the right to tell me how to use any of them and really that's the bottom line. If you feel that strongly about not watching porn with girls who refuse to do IR look them up the girls involved and don't purchase films that involve them. Start a website that lists all the girls who refuse to IR so it's easy to find. If enough people agree with you then producers (and more importantly the girls) will figure it out sooner or later. I highly suspect that 90% of porn viewers simply don't care though. [Link]
RandomPrecision Senior Member Enjoy! 8175 Posts 3/06	Posted - Sep 22 2008 : 6:52PM ntfighter wrote: It is racism. The very rational for slavery, or maybe it's only racism. Name it. Everybody's squirting around the word like water on a hot skillet. Click to expand I certainly didn't deny that it is discrimination that's based upon racist attitudes and feelings. But again, what can you do? You simply can't force people to think the way you want them to. And you can't force a woman to fuck somebody she doesn't want to fuck. Not even if you pay her. If she doesn't want to do it, the director (or whom ever makes these decisions) will simply find someone who will. Anyone has a right to be as racist as they want... in their private life, fuck who you will in your bedroom. You make the choice to become a public person your right to racist behavior ends that moment. Click to expand Do you even realize how deeply pathological this line of thinking is? The simple fact of the matter is that porn is not the same kind of business as office work or fast food or factory work. It's sex. It's a whole new ballgame. The people who work in the porn industry have to have choices. The minute we think we (as viewers) have a right to take choice away from any of them (Black, white, male, female), something is very wrong. What if a black guy didn't want to fuck white chicks? I don't know that there are any black guys who won't fuck white girls in porn but for the sake of argument. Do you think that would bother me as a white guy? I would be disappointed if the guy was a good performer but he has that right. I've made quite a few posts in the last few months arguing that girls who don't want to work for guys like Max Hardcore shouldn't do it. It's choice that enables us to defend porn. Do you honestly think we could defend porn if it could be said a girl couldn't choose to refuse to work with people she doesn't like (for whatever reason)? You need to see a shrink if you think a woman should be forced to fuck anyone. Even if fucking is her business she has a right to discriminate for any reason. That's the way it has to be. She can discriminate if the guy is gay (I'm bi, BTW), if she thinks he's ugly, if he's Asian, if he's black. I don't care. As long as every scene is clearly consensual. You can't take the consensual out of porn and expect it to fly. As a matter of fact, if you took the consensuality out of it, it would essentially become slavery, which you claim to deplore. We are all expected to conform our behavior to a societal standard the porn business does not get a pass. Click to expand You really need to think this through. As I said, the porn business is a unique business. There are good reasons why things don't work the same way in the porn world. So what? Click to expand Yes. There comes a point where you have to ask. I'm not a racist. I don't like racism. But it exists and it always will. I ignore racists. They're stupid people in my book. You can't change them. [Link]
killbillvol69 All-Star Member ^Lucy Pinder 18635 Posts 4/08	Posted - Sep 22 2008 : 7:28PM The laissez-faire attitude towards prejudiced behaviour in the last two posts by Sean Renaud and RP are extremely scary to me. If we ignore discrimination, it doesn't go away. It gets worse. Suppose the world had ignored the discrimination in Apartheid-era South Africa. Suppose the North had ignored the discrimination in the Slavery-era, or Segregation-era South. Suppose men ignored the discrimination during the Suffragettes' plight. Before you say "Aw but this is different. These examples of discrimination don't hurt anyone/affect anyone's life negatively/whatever", I regret to inform you that discrimination ALWAYS affects someone negatively. It's actually part of the definition. So now you're left with either saying "yep, it's cool that we ignore discrimination and allow one person or one group of people to make the lives of another group of people worse, just because they're different", or you've gotta say "nope. This shit is wrong and somebody's gotta say something, or do something, or whatever - but ignoring it is only going to make it worse". To RP: comparing working with Blacks to working with Max Hardcore makes no sense at all. That's the difference between saying "you have to work with a Black guy in the office next to you" and saying "you have to work for a terrible company that treats you poorly and won't pay you what you're worth". The first, you should be expected to do, and rightfully so. The second, no one would expect you to agree to, and rightfully so. To Sean Renaud: your post is the most disturbing one I've read since joining ADT. The thought that there are probably far more people here that agree with you than there are that disagree, though, is even more disturbing. For what it's worth (which may be nothing at all), I'm actually crying as I type this. [Link]
ntfighter Member 645 Posts 7/07	Posted - Sep 22 2008 : 7:34PM I support anyone right to fuck her choice, so does the laws of every civilized nation. I believe that any women or man in the porn business can choose not to work with anyone else...on an individual basis. I'd would be outraged to find that a women was being forced to fuck a guy she didn't want to, again case by case. I believe that is what the "No" lists are for. If her decision is to exclude, publicly, all Jewish men, than she has made a poor career choice,. and it is incumbent on her to change or find a new career. She has no right to expect society to change from what century's has taught us is the best way for a multi-cultural nation to exist in relative equanimity. According to the acceptable standards of behavior, and the laws of this country, she is not allowed to discriminate based on race alone. Funny you should mention pathology. I had the same thoughts regarding men who say they like women, but than exclude an entire race. (race is used Colloquially here) They boast that they find an entire race of women unattractive. That's pathological, no that's crazy as hell. It also says a lot about their claims of manhood. RP please with the "what if's" It didn't happen. Has not happened. Will not happen. Edited by - ntfighter on 9/22/2008 8:57:50 PM [Link]
ntfighter Member 645 Posts 7/07	Posted - Sep 22 2008 : 7:53PM Dean Wormer wrote: ^^^ ntfighter I'm sure that you've seen my suggestions in this thread. Perhaps you should give either of those gentlemen a call and see if they can be of any help. Certainly they would be all for pressuring certain young women to have sex with someone that they do not want to have sex with especially if the reason is that the men are black. Click to expand I spoke to Jesse today at lunch. I am happy to report that he arrived wearing a suit like any other citizen no African garb, and he used the correct fork for his salad. Al says he has hot and cold running white girls and fuck porn, aint no percentage in that shit. [Link]

ntfighter Member 645 Posts 7/07	Posted - Sep 22 2008 : 8:52PM Sean Renaud wrote: You make the choice to become a public person your right to racist behavior ends that moment. We are all expected to conform our behavior to a societal standard the porn business does not get a pass. So what? Click to expand The fact is that while this is true it shouldn't be. If I don't want to serve blacks in my McDonalds that should be my decision. If I don't want to work along side a Mexican at Wal-mart that should be my call as well. If I don't want any women working for me at my Apple Store that too should be my choice. Click to expand This is exactly why it was not left to the individual citizen to decide. [Link]
iluvrhumps Member 44 Posts 7/08	Posted - Sep 23 2008 : 12:02AM Why would I want to see a woman...or man, have sex with someone they dont want to have sex with. Yes its a job, but its a very intimate job Id say. I couldnt see a director, agent, or whoever force a woman...or man to have sex with someone they do not want to have sex with, no matter how big the paycheck. We enjoy seeing 2, 3...4 or more people indulging the art of sex for entertainment, but also enjoying their work. That way, we enjoy it too. [Link]
BlackSix All-Star Member pornography wasn't sex but fantasies of an impossibly hospitable world 12377 Posts 9/07	Posted - Sep 23 2008 : 1:58AM iluvrhumps wrote: Why would I want to see a woman...or man, have sex with someone they dont want to have sex with. Click to expand Throw out every DVD or VHS you have with Ron Jeremy, Dirty Harry, Max Hardcore, Ed Powers and Rodney Moore. [Link]
Dean Wormer Senior Member Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life, son. 1048 Posts 7/04	Posted - Sep 23 2008 : 2:14AM Okay. To the five or six people in this thread who are outraged by the choice of some white females to refrain from IR sex what, in your opinion, is the "solution" to this "problem"? Also, instead of complaining about the white women who do not have sex with black men why don't you just enjoy and cherish the ones who do? Could it be the immortal words of Mr. Spock apply here: You may find that having is not so nearly pleasing a thing as wanting. It is not logical, but it is often true. Click to expand [Link]
smallcock Deactivated User 131 Posts 8/07	Posted - Sep 23 2008 : 2:27AM SJOriginal ,what do you do now? Did you find it easy going back into mainstream life after porn? I find it really awesome that you peruse boards like this after being involved in the industry so long ago. It shows that... well... you love sex ;) [Link]
killbillvol69 All-Star Member ^Lucy Pinder 18635 Posts 4/08	Posted - Sep 23 2008 : 2:36AM ^smallcock, you should ask Sarah Jane in her official thread. [Link]
ntfighter Member 645 Posts 7/07	Posted - Sep 23 2008 : 11:53AM Dean Wormer wrote: Okay. To the five or six people in this thread who are outraged by the choice of some white females to refrain from IR sex what, in your opinion, is the "solution" to this "problem"? Click to expand Click to expand Dean imho you and some of the other are taking the old stereotypical view that has existed in this country since slavery. The one that has been used to stir up animosities toward African American, and justify every thing from lynching to our current war on drugs. There is no truth to the conventional belief that all black men are only awaiting the first opportunity to soil and rut their lust on the pure body of of a white virgin. Its not about interracial porn, or it's not only about interracial porn. I'm objecting to the porn industry assigning A special circumstance to African American full participation in the business. When the movie "The passion of the Christ" was released Jews were very vocal in their opposition. They have absorbed the lessons of history. They fight anti-antisemitism wherever it is found. I find the current porn policy threatening to my well being and to my ability to fully participate in American society. Edited by - ntfighter on 9/24/2008 1:30:47 PM [Link]
NewRomancer Deactivated User under THEIR avatar 738 Posts 7/08	Posted - Sep 23 2008 : 12:05PM "they fight anti-antisemitism wherever it is found" And when they can't find it, some of them often INVENT it. "she choose to make a career in a business where she very little control over who she works with" She has EVERY right to CHOOSE who she works with... If you don't like that a woman CHOOSES not to fuck black dudes, for what ever reason, you have ONE recourse and one recourse only... don't buy her movies. There's no LAW against being ignorant. [Link]
ntfighter Member 645 Posts 7/07	Posted - Sep 23 2008 : 12:29PM NewRomancer wrote: "they fight anti-antisemitism wherever it is found" And when they can't find it, some of them often INVENT it. "she choose to make a career in a business where she very little control over who she works with" She has EVERY right to CHOOSE who she works with... If you don't like that a woman CHOOSES not to fuck black dudes, for what ever reason, you have ONE recourse and one recourse only... don't buy her movies. There's no LAW against being ignorant. Click to expand Yeah yeah. Let let it all come out, come on. Would you be able to judge for them what is truly a threat and what is invented? She has a right not to let the doorknob hit her in the ass on the way out of the biz. [Link]
NewRomancer Deactivated User under THEIR avatar 738 Posts 7/08	Posted - Sep 23 2008 : 12:51PM Well, fortunately you don't get to dictate to "The Biz" what they can and cannot allow, other than with your wallet... A woman cannot be made to give up her inalienable RIGHT to control what happens to her own body, ever. So no woman ever has to fuck someone she doesn't want to, no matter what her reason is.... (porn isn't rape) IF she's basing that choice on skin colour, then yes, she's an ignorant bigot.... But there's no law against that, and likely anything you ever did to try to change her mind would only fuel her fire... You're free to call her on it, just as she's free to tell you to get t' fuck.... You're also free to start your own production company and make porn the way YOU think it SHOULD be done.... [Link]
Sean Renaud Member 181 Posts 7/07	Posted - Sep 23 2008 : 2:06PM ntfighter wrote: This is exactly why it was not left to the individual citizen to decide. Click to expand And what exactly has this accomplished? A deep seated resentment for people who have jobs that they are percieved not to deserve. It gives us quotas, it gives us affirmative action. It breeds resentment rather than eliminates it. I don't understand how people can scream that they want freedom, that we stand for freedom and then try to take away basic freedoms away from people. Most of the what ifs were rediculous. (or mistaken) Still for argument's sake. 1. The world at large did ignore the Apartheid. There was no invasion, the world did (largely individually) exactly what I suggested we do here. Don't do bussiness with the racists. That's what a trade sanction is in essense no? 2. The North DID ignore racism in slavery era South (ever hear of the Dred Scott case?) and for the most part ignored in the Segregation era instead allowing for local leaders to step up. 3. If men had ignored Suffragettes we wouldn't have had prohibition and the Mafia would never happened. :-P All joking aside you're talking about the government here not private industry. I want to know something though honestly. By what authority did you make me into your slave? If I don't want to serve blacks in my restaurant that I own, that I put my blood, sweat and tears into why do you get to tell me that I have to serve them? I lose out on 13% of of the population (nationally obviously it changes area by area) anybody who isn't a racist and finds out what I'm doing wont' eat at my restaurant (and a few who are racist don't want to be seen as racist) and I'll go out of bussiness. Problem solved. If I dont' want to work along side Mexicans. . .well that severely limits my work opportunities (particularly here in Southern California) again I'll either change my tune or I'll starve. Either way problem solved. If I dont' want women working at my Apple Store go tell your friends I'm a sexist nobody shops at my store again I go out of bussiness. Actually in an Apple store call corporate, I get fired, problem is solved. So where do you get the authority to tell me how I should live my life? Who decided that and why? For that matter why aren't we having a debate over the number of men who refuse to work with men? Without even gandering at the porn agencies I'm going to guess it's north of 50% [Link]
killbillvol69 All-Star Member ^Lucy Pinder 18635 Posts 4/08	Posted - Sep 23 2008 : 5:09PM ^I'm going to assume the "you" in question here isn't ntfighter or myself, because neither one of us has as yet told you to do anything per se, but rather the general "you" being any person who might enforce something on you that relates to the views we're expressing. Anyway, I'll tell you what the problem is, in regards to not hiring such-and-such a group. Suppose it was just one random dude who didn't want women to work at his Apple store. Yeah, there may or not not be an uproar; if people boycotted him he'd either change his policy or go out of business; if they didn't boycott him, well it's still just one store. The problem is, it's never just one store. It's an entire community/town/county/state/country/industry/whatever, shutting a particular group of people out of economic prosperity and other opportunities. That's why. As far as how it pertains to porn, it amazes me how much everyone is freaking out about this, thinking it would destroy porn as we know it, etc, when all other countries already don't have girls saying "no interracial", and they're doing just fine. Substantial and thriving and creative porn industries exist in many countries with hot babes, and none of them are complaining that their local porn industry is so totalitarian because they're forced to do black guys. Is the US porn industry bigger? Well yeah, of course, but that's only because the US entertainment industry in general is bigger, the US is richer, etc. I highly, HIGHLY doubt anyone will ever suggest that there's more porn being made in the US than there is in Canada, or Britain, or Brazil, or the Czech Republic because non-black females in the US can refuse to work with black guys. The two things have nothing to do with each other. My guess? My honest guess? If this aspect of the US porn industry was changed, the only difference anyone would see is that some girls who previously hadn't done black guys, would now do black guys. The scenes wouldn't look any less passionate, there wouldn't be any fewer girls in the biz, nothing. "Oh but the girls would be working with someone they're not attracted to!" HA! Have you ever listened to an interview with any porn girl? They all (including the ones who don't do IR) talk about how they constantly work with guys they're not into, but they do it anyway, because it's their job. They suck it up, put in a good performance and that's that. Why would it be any different with black guys? You think a girl goes on "Midnight Prowl" or some site like that, and says to herself "I have no idea who these guys are, they're ugly as shit and they can't fuck... but this scene would be so much worse if it was with a black guy who's professionally trained at this and knows how to please a woman. Thank GOD this ugly piece of shit isn't black, then I would be truly disgusted." No. The only reason girls say they won't do IR is because it's considered a FETISH in the US porn industry; the assumption is that porn is marketed for the white guys, and white guys don't wanna see their women with black guys, unless they have some weird, dark fetish going on: cuckolding, degradation, something like that. Any single one of you who claims it's about "choice" is in disagreement with the majority of porn girls, who claim that it's either because they're "waiting for something to do later in their career", or because they "don't do fetish stuff". The majority of them don't usually even say that they're "not attracted to black guys". Personal choice my ass. That's a scarecrow argument, designed to distract you all from what's really going on: white guys who don't like black guys. That's all. [Link]
CHI - BEAR 85 Deactivated User 225 Posts 9/08	Posted - Sep 23 2008 : 6:25PM CHI - BEAR 85 wrote: If, I hear or read one more time, about some female porn actress, stating she won't do interracial, because it will hurt her career. I'm going to scream and pop like a balloon. There's list of females who done lots of interracial and it never hurt there career. Here's a list of names, that I can remember, maybe you guys or ladies can add more. Sasha Grey Inari Vachs Hillary Scott Kelly Wells Gen Padova Teagan Presely did one Lisa Sparxxx Thomas Spring Lauren Phoenix Amee Donovan Kacey Melissa Lauren Monica Sweetheart Annette Schwarz Ariana Jollee Amber Peach Britney Stevens Delilah Strong Gianna Flower Tucci Julia Bond Sophie Dee Staci Thorn Sindee Jennings Naomi Chelsie Rae Missy Monroe Whitney Stevens Lea Luv Leah Steveson Bobbi Starr Bree Olson Leighlani Red Nina Hartley Claudia Downs New list! Jenna Haze Lexi Belle Roxy Jezel Liliane Tiger Georgia Peach Lexi Love Katrina Kraven Katja Kassin And lots more, that goes on and on more then I list here that done lots of interracial scenes and these girls are famous. The most recent that is hot right now, hot and famous, is Sasha Grey,Bree Olson and Bobbi Star. Enough said! And they ain't hurting a bit, through their sexual career. Oh, by the way, to send a message to some of these porn stars who make this false claim. Don't buy there dvds, period. There's a whole list of beautiful white females and othe ethnics, to support. Do your own research through the internet and your find the ones who don't care about a performers skin color. Click to expand [Link]
Sean Renaud Member 181 Posts 7/07	Posted - Sep 23 2008 : 6:29PM 1. You're right (at least historically) that it's an entire region that rejects a race. Seriously though certain races just shouldn't live certain places. It sucks but it's true and forcing Bubba to hire Jamal just means that Bubba knows when Jamal gets off work so he can more efficently organize a lynching. Personally any place that I wasn't wanted that badly I simply wouldn't be. 2. My guess is that you're right a few girls would get out, but the majority would suddenly do IR. 3. It is white mens right not to like blacks and vice versa. It still is personal choice. I don't understand where anybody gets off telling anybody else what they can and can't do with their time, money, body. Period. If a girl put on her description she won't do guys who wear the color blue, have more vowels than consents in their name, comb their hair from back to front I'd defend their choice "silly" though it may be. I've heard a plethora of reasons why the women might be making the choices they've made. Most of them seem to be true enough, at least as true as I'm likely to get without doing an industry wide poll of some sort. The closest thing I've heard to a reason why this choice should be taken away from the girls is because if left unchecked it could spread to the entire industry. As far as other nations go it's not even a fair comparison. They both lack the diversity of the US (not that the US is nearly as diverse as we like to claim) and a good majority of US porn is made in Southern California which has a disprotionate amount of blacks and latinos. I'd love to see the hard stats but I'd be willing to guess an overseas pornstar wouldn't need to refuse to work with blacks, any more than girls in LA need to refuse to work with say Pacific Islanders. They are rare enough that there is no need. Again I would argue that if a girl (or guy) refused to work with people who've been vaccinated against Measles that should be her choice. I would like to say again though by all means start a website that lists which girls don't do IR, boycott their products. Boycott the directors that hire them and the studios they work with. Keep attacking the wallet until they are forced to change their ways. Porn is was and shall forever remain racist btw. And that is (in part) because of personal tastes. But then again nobody is complaining that a New Sensations sells titles like I love Asians, I love Latinas, nor is anybody complaining about Candy Shop filming exclusively (or nearly exclusively) all black and interracial. Cus that's all good as it falls into the sacred land of double reverse racism. :-P [Link]
CHI - BEAR 85 Deactivated User 225 Posts 9/08	Posted - Sep 23 2008 : 6:51PM Here's a interesting, read! I've read somewhere, that Lexingtong Steele, had this interracial big butt video called Culos Gigantes #4 for his Company. He stated, that Alexis Texas, won't do interracial, because she was told by her agent, it would hurt her career. So, even though the video was put in the interracial catergory, she didn't have sex with a black male, instead it was non-black male. If you scroll up a few notch, you'll see the list, that I posted up, of lots of female porn stars who did interracial throughout their adult film career so her agent, was not telling the truth or she wasn't telling us the real truth, why she refuse to do interracial. [Link]
ntfighter Member 645 Posts 7/07	Posted - Sep 23 2008 : 7:13PM Sean Renaud wrote: 1. You're right (at least historically) that it's an entire region that rejects a race. Seriously though certain races just shouldn't live certain places. It sucks but it's true and forcing Bubba to hire Jamal just means that Bubba knows when Jamal gets off work so he can more efficently organize a lynching. Personally any place that I wasn't wanted that badly I simply wouldn't be. Yes keep posting you're making the case for me. Porn is was and shall forever remain racist btw. Click to expand Man I just had a clear mental image of you jumping from your seat in full regalia, executing a perfect heel clicking stiff armed salute. Don't that statement just scream for it. Someone has said that about every step blacks have made in this country. We just put our head down against the howling hate, grip the good earth with our feet and keep coming, that's the trick keep moving forward. Because we are on the side of what is right and lawful. Never again! I trust the People of the Book will allow me to borrow. Edited by - ntfighter on 9/25/2008 6:33:40 PM [Link]

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ntfighter
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Posted - Sep 20 2008 : 10:19AM

Damn, here it is again.

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Bobcat
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Posted - Sep 20 2008 : 10:21AM

I'd go along with the above statement!
I'd ask anyone who's being critical of non-IR female performers to take a look at the garbage this studio is putting out (I'm sure you can find the 4 relevant titles on the page that is linked to). Is it wrong that a women should want to dissociated herself from this?

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NewRomancer
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Posted - Sep 20 2008 : 10:28AM

"if a girl doesn't want to do a scene with a black guy she shouldn't have to"
Show me where, in the universal description of "Porn Star" it says, that a girl has to do ANYTHING she doesn't want to do...
Then show me one instance where choosing to NOT do IR isn't a blatant example of bigotry....

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killbillvol69

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Posted - Sep 20 2008 : 3:14PM

Clam Digger, the reason Bobcat referred to that post (and why he used the little "up arrow") is because I quoted and linked to it in my post directly above his. To be fair, you quoted the post in its entirety, whereas I only quoted part of it. But still, it shouldn't have taken you forever to find it: you only needed to look up!

All teasing aside... Yes, as I mentioned, I agree with you that it seems the most likely reason for white males to specifically seek out BM/WF porn. I also mentioned another reason, which I deduced partially from the kinds of things discussed in the article you quoted about racial myths: that the white male may consider the black male to be "hypersexual", and thus want to see this "hypersexual creature" in action. It's a similar, though perhaps not identical, motivation as the one Tritone described.
I was willing to accept that there may be other motivations, even though I consider these to be the most likely.
So I ask again, because I am genuinely curious, if anyone else has any ideas why a white male might specifically seek out BM/WF porn (as in, not wanting to watch it because it looks like a good porn scene, but wanting to watch it because it features a black male having sex with a white - or non-black - female).

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BlackSix

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Posted - Sep 20 2008 : 4:49PM

I find I like black male performers as they tend to not be as misogynistic and focused on anal or circus acts as white performers/directors. A major generalization obviously, but I find it generally holds true. But I don't really care if the woman is white, asian or black; I like all flavours of women as long as they're cute with a fine booty!

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RandomPrecision
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Posted - Sep 20 2008 : 5:03PM

Ridiculous. This is the reasoning of a 12 year old.
Porn girls don't have to do anything. No more than a prostitute has to fuck you just because you have money. If she doesn't like you (for whatever reason), she can say no.
Don't get me wrong. I think it's ridiculous if a porn girl will fuck any white guy who comes along but refuses to fuck a black guy. But that's her problem. She has issues. Whatever. In the meantime, girls who don't have similar issues get paid.

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killbillvol69

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Posted - Sep 20 2008 : 5:17PM

@BlackSix: thanks for your response. As you say, it may be a generalization... but if it's one that holds true quite often, then it would be silly to ignore it.

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RandomPrecision
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Posted - Sep 20 2008 : 6:08PM

As to why I like IR? Because it's porn, I guess. It doesn't matter to me what color the dude is. I think IR tends to be better because the girls who do like it tend to be more enthusiastic.

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SJOriginal
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Posted - Sep 20 2008 : 7:43PM

Care to provide me some links?
I dont mean to rowel people here but surely you must agree with what I've posted, dont you??
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No I do not agree with you, this is a complex, multifaceted subject and has been answered multiple ways by different bloggers. For their answers simply back track through the blog to see everyone's response.
This issue most like all issues is ... subjective. There is no right or wrong answer, only opinions. Because you or anyone else thinks their way is the right way; does not make it so.
Discussion is good; name calling bad. Thank you for withdrawing the unpleasantness and enjoy ADT.

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ntfighter
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Posted - Sep 20 2008 : 9:04PM

Thunderbird
No I do not agree with you, this is a complex, multifaceted subject and has been answered multiple ways by different bloggers. For their answers simply back track through the blog to see everyone's response.
This issue most like all issues is ... subjective. There is no right or wrong answer, only opinions. Because you or anyone else thinks their way is the right way; does not make it so.
Discussion is good; name calling bad. Thank you for withdrawing the unpleasantness and enjoy ADT.

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SJOriginal
It is a joy to have you posting here. I'm a big fan.

Edited by - ntfighter on 9/20/2008 9:37:38 PM

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felonycharm
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Posted - Sep 20 2008 : 9:43PM

This topic has been ran into the ground for years debated over & over, but my opinion on this would be this:listen up>>We live in a society where when a black man is with a white women it is just so taboo, it has been like that hundreds of years, a lot of white men (not all} feel very intimadated by the thought of a black mans cock going deep inside a pretty blond white women's Orifices porn is no exception to this rule, it is like some veiwers of porn think a white women loses her purness when they fuck a black man on camera,it seems like to me it is only a IR flick when there is a black man & a white women on the screen, white women have sex with spanish men paccific islander men,I,E {Marco banderas}and know one has that much of a prob with that, but when it is a afro-american man there is always a prob, that is like i said,there is so much taboo in that,and all the stereo types that porn directers add to this,MY WIFE IS FUCKIN A NEgrO and other titles like that,but when black women do white men, that is not much of a big deal in porn, that is what she suppose to do, if you had black porn starlets refusing to fuck white talent,it would just be like oh well,but if she chooses that,she will not be a very big market porn star,like women such as Jada fire,and other black women that do porn with white men,the thing is it is all about the fuckin, if it is a good scene it is just a good scene no matter what the color of the performer is, it is all about MAn & Women, Dick & Pussy,and that should be the true testament of it,and more and more u see white women doing Ir,girls like Gina lynn,Mrs.D'nyle have open up the flood gates for this,It did not hurt there careers, it only enhanced them by opening them up to a broader market of people, u know,So other porn ladies need to follow there lead, because most women you hear about that refuse, women like Harmony,Alexis TExas, they are not as big as those ladies that i just mention and it did not hurt them, So they must have other reservations about sex with black men....ITS ALL POrn PEOPLE

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Dirty Bob
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Posted - Sep 20 2008 : 11:37PM

Southern porn stars, who don't do black men? Mike South (heh heh)...

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SunShowers
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Posted - Sep 21 2008 : 11:36AM

Adult actresses have turn ons and turn offs just like everybody else. The popular and successful starlets are the ones who don't take this as a mere job and enjoy fucking. When you consider the plethora of attractive porn studs, such as Manuel Ferrera, Steve Holmes, Mark Wood, and Mick Blue, it's not surprising it becomes more than just a job for the truly committed. And as lame and idealistic as this may sound, I imagine that a lot of the action in porn comes from pure attraction and affection. Just look at Manuel Ferrera's scenes. The man is a lover and I can't imagine any woman staring at the clock while she's with him. The same goes for the others.
It is unreasonable to expect porn stars to fuck any old person you put in front of them. It's a highly undignified profession, but it isn't made up of mindless autobots. It's made up of people. Libidinous and crazy as some of them may be...
Why should the industry force masses of beautiful, ready-to-work women out on the streets because a handful of fans are pissed off when there are thousands of white males in this country who could care less? When all it would do is cost the industry cash? And it strikes me as highly peculiar that you are trying to fight a race battle in the arena of... pornography? Am I the only one who finds that bizarre?
You can't change people's minds and you can't force them to fight their demons. So instead of concentrating on the actresses who won't fuck black men, concentrate on those who will. There are plenty of pretty actresses who do IR.

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SJOriginal
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Posted - Sep 21 2008 : 5:36PM

Ntfighter -
Thank you and a pleasure ... it's fun! I wish I had more time, but my day is full of the usual interruptions.
You must be 110 years old if you are a fan !!!! :):):)
To the rest of the "Who gives a fuck" bloggers ... well, obviously quite a few! Look back at the 4 pages, multiple answers, heated discussions and more. It is quite apparent that a ton of you folk "give a fuck", so why ask that question? It is a topic that touch people, rowel em' up and gets underneath their skin. It is infact the one issue that is clearly resolved? I.e. "Who gives a fuck"? About 50 people just on this blog.
Sarah Jane x

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awall
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Posted - Sep 21 2008 : 5:37PM

SunShowers wrote:
Adult actresses have turn ons and turn offs just like everybody else. The popular and successful starlets are the ones who don't take this as a mere job and enjoy fucking. When you consider the plethora of attractive porn studs, such as Manuel Ferrera, Steve Holmes, Mark Wood, and Mick Blue, it's not surprising it becomes more than just a job for the truly committed. And as lame and idealistic as this may sound, I imagine that a lot of the action in porn comes from pure attraction and affection. Just look at Manuel Ferrera's scenes. The man is a lover and I can't imagine any woman staring at the clock while she's with him. The same goes for the others.
It is unreasonable to expect porn stars to fuck any old person you put in front of them. It's a highly undignified profession, but it isn't made up of mindless autobots. It's made up of people. Libidinous and crazy as some of them may be...
Why should the industry force masses of beautiful, ready-to-work women out on the streets because a handful of fans are pissed off when there are thousands of white males in this country who could care less? When all it would do is cost the industry cash? And it strikes me as highly peculiar that you are trying to fight a race battle in the arena of... pornography? Am I the only one who finds that bizarre?
You can't change people's minds and you can't force them to fight their demons. So instead of concentrating on the actresses who won't fuck black men, concentrate on those who will. There are plenty of pretty actresses who do IR.
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Actresses will fuck any old guy put in front of them, as long as hes not black.
They are robots for the most part. Black guys are the only humans women will refuse to work with. You will never catch a girl who will do blacks but nobody else, no matter how old or disgusting he may be. Black guys are the bottom of the barrel in porn.
This is not fighting a race battle, its simple internet debates.
Don't like it, don't reply, because they will continue forever and ever.

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Clam Digger
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Posted - Sep 21 2008 : 5:42PM

SJOriginal;
You haven't seen the 100 other threads about this subject that have been started here on ADT.
Every couple of months a newbie (or an old troll) starts one up.

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RandomPrecision
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Posted - Sep 21 2008 : 5:56PM

Debates are one thing.
When you say shit like that, it immediately sends up red flags that you're simply trolling.

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ntfighter
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Posted - Sep 21 2008 : 8:25PM

There is nothing trollish about this subject.
You have nothing worthwhile to contribute you are invited to STFU.
Just be happy nothing of the sort is, or will happen to you.
The prevailing attitude in the porn industry and apparently in America judging from the responses in this and other threads, is that there in something wrong or different about African American. As a American,and a fan I am one of those affected. I am concerned. The majority of women in porn make the statement "I will not work with blacks" that implies a "culture" of racism just as there was a culture of pedophilia in the Catholic priesthood.
People in porn are involved in other businesses. I don't believe for one minute that their biased actions are only confined to discrimination on the set. Damn right I'm concerned and disturbed. I would hope that in my field of endeavors were I to face blatant discrimination that the majority of my co-worked would do the right thing and stand with me.
Edited by - ntfighter on 9/21/2008 8:26:36 PM

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Clam Digger
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Posted - Sep 21 2008 : 11:41PM

....you should actually read the post you criticize...

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RandomPrecision
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Posted - Sep 21 2008 : 11:54PM

Ntfighter - I just have one very simple question for you.
What do you think should be done about it? You've ran this issue into the ground but I haven't seen you suggest any solution that could possibly work.
I don't see any shortage of IR porn. There's plenty to choose from.

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SJOriginal
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Posted - Sep 22 2008 : 12:53AM

Yikes already!!! That's quite a few. I guess people really, really do "give a fuck"!!!!
There are so many myths and misconceptions from fans and outsiders; it's blowing my mind!
Each to their own I guess.
Sarah Jane x

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SJOriginal
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Posted - Sep 22 2008 : 12:59AM

ntfighter
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Posted - Sep 22 2008 : 1:36AM

RP I'm sure you see that blacks in the industry are assigned to a niche. Second class. The porn industry is as jim crow as it can be and still make a buck. Any more separation, pushing blacks out would amount to segregation.
American society is what it is. I only have control over what I choose to believe.
I think the solution starts here: "Name it". Call it by its name.

Edited by - ntfighter on 9/22/2008 1:50:59 AM

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Dean Wormer
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Posted - Sep 22 2008 : 2:09AM

^^^ ntfighter I'm sure that you've seen my suggestions in this thread. Perhaps you should give either of those gentlemen a call and see if they can be of any help. Certainly they would be all for pressuring certain young women to have sex with someone that they do not want to have sex with especially if the reason is that the men are black.

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Royal Tee
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Posted - Sep 22 2008 : 2:15AM

I doubt two REVERENDS would come to ther defense of the ponr industry.

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RandomPrecision
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Enjoy!
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Posted - Sep 22 2008 : 3:56AM

It's discrimination. So what? We've been over and over this on this board. Everybody discriminates. When was the last time you fucked somebody you didn't want to fuck for the sake of equality?

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ntfighter
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Posted - Sep 22 2008 : 5:35PM

It is racism. The very rational for slavery, or maybe it's only racism.
Name it. Everybody's squirting around the word like water on a hot skillet. Every little bit of it that appear erodes the fundamental of the society.
Anyone has a right to be as racist as they want... in their private life, fuck who you will in your bedroom. You make the choice to become a public person your right to racist behavior ends that moment. We are all expected to conform our behavior to a societal standard the porn business does not get a pass.
So what?
^^^Sotto voce,is Dean Wormer standing behind you with a gun to your head forcing you to write. If so begin your next post with "I love Bush." and I'll send help.

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ntfighter
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Posted - Sep 22 2008 : 5:42PM

SJOriginal wrote:
ntfighter wrote:
Clam Digger wrote:
SJOriginal;
You haven't seen the 100 other threads about this subject that have been started here on ADT.
Every couple of months a newbie (or an old troll) starts one up.
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Ntfighter, you know I didn't write the "trollish" comment? I understand completely this It's a subject that really gets to people. Its content may be the same, but it manifests itself in different ways. I think IR, racism, and all that is contained in these threads is an interesting topic and more so then say, "Who has the biggest tits". Though ... that has its fun and compelling side too!!!! P.S Summer Cummings ... !:):)
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I was attempting to reply to the post above you. I know from your post, and I hang on your every word, that you are much to classy to make a boorish comment on what is a critical subject to at at least one poster (me)here.
I might have responded to the wrong thread, my bad.

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Sean Renaud
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Posted - Sep 22 2008 : 6:18PM

The fact is that while this is true it shouldn't be. If I don't want to serve blacks in my McDonalds that should be my decision.
If I don't want to work along side a Mexican at Wal-mart that should be my call as well.
If I don't want any women working for me at my Apple Store that too should be my choice.
I say bravo that porn still gives people the right to choose who they do and don't work with, for, and around. It's my money, my time and my body and nobody has the right to tell me how to use any of them and really that's the bottom line.
If you feel that strongly about not watching porn with girls who refuse to do IR look them up the girls involved and don't purchase films that involve them. Start a website that lists all the girls who refuse to IR so it's easy to find. If enough people agree with you then producers (and more importantly the girls) will figure it out sooner or later. I highly suspect that 90% of porn viewers simply don't care though.

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RandomPrecision
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Enjoy!
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Posted - Sep 22 2008 : 6:52PM

I certainly didn't deny that it is discrimination that's based upon racist attitudes and feelings. But again, what can you do? You simply can't force people to think the way you want them to. And you can't force a woman to fuck somebody she doesn't want to fuck. Not even if you pay her. If she doesn't want to do it, the director (or whom ever makes these decisions) will simply find someone who will.

Do you even realize how deeply pathological this line of thinking is? The simple fact of the matter is that porn is not the same kind of business as office work or fast food or factory work. It's sex. It's a whole new ballgame. The people who work in the porn industry have to have choices. The minute we think we (as viewers) have a right to take choice away from any of them (Black, white, male, female), something is very wrong.
What if a black guy didn't want to fuck white chicks? I don't know that there are any black guys who won't fuck white girls in porn but for the sake of argument. Do you think that would bother me as a white guy? I would be disappointed if the guy was a good performer but he has that right.
I've made quite a few posts in the last few months arguing that girls who don't want to work for guys like Max Hardcore shouldn't do it. It's choice that enables us to defend porn. Do you honestly think we could defend porn if it could be said a girl couldn't choose to refuse to work with people she doesn't like (for whatever reason)?
You need to see a shrink if you think a woman should be forced to fuck anyone. Even if fucking is her business she has a right to discriminate for any reason. That's the way it has to be. She can discriminate if the guy is gay (I'm bi, BTW), if she thinks he's ugly, if he's Asian, if he's black. I don't care. As long as every scene is clearly consensual. You can't take the consensual out of porn and expect it to fly. As a matter of fact, if you took the consensuality out of it, it would essentially become slavery, which you claim to deplore.

You really need to think this through. As I said, the porn business is a unique business. There are good reasons why things don't work the same way in the porn world.

Yes. There comes a point where you have to ask. I'm not a racist. I don't like racism. But it exists and it always will. I ignore racists. They're stupid people in my book. You can't change them.

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killbillvol69

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Posted - Sep 22 2008 : 7:28PM

The laissez-faire attitude towards prejudiced behaviour in the last two posts by Sean Renaud and RP are extremely scary to me.
If we ignore discrimination, it doesn't go away. It gets worse.
Suppose the world had ignored the discrimination in Apartheid-era South Africa.
Suppose the North had ignored the discrimination in the Slavery-era, or Segregation-era South.
Suppose men ignored the discrimination during the Suffragettes' plight.
Before you say "Aw but this is different. These examples of discrimination don't hurt anyone/affect anyone's life negatively/whatever", I regret to inform you that discrimination ALWAYS affects someone negatively. It's actually part of the definition.
So now you're left with either saying "yep, it's cool that we ignore discrimination and allow one person or one group of people to make the lives of another group of people worse, just because they're different", or you've gotta say "nope. This shit is wrong and somebody's gotta say something, or do something, or whatever - but ignoring it is only going to make it worse".
To RP: comparing working with Blacks to working with Max Hardcore makes no sense at all. That's the difference between saying "you have to work with a Black guy in the office next to you" and saying "you have to work for a terrible company that treats you poorly and won't pay you what you're worth". The first, you should be expected to do, and rightfully so. The second, no one would expect you to agree to, and rightfully so.
To Sean Renaud: your post is the most disturbing one I've read since joining ADT. The thought that there are probably far more people here that agree with you than there are that disagree, though, is even more disturbing. For what it's worth (which may be nothing at all), I'm actually crying as I type this.

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ntfighter
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Posted - Sep 22 2008 : 7:34PM

I support anyone right to fuck her choice, so does the laws of every civilized nation. I believe that any women or man in the porn business can choose not to work with anyone else...on an individual basis.
I'd would be outraged to find that a women was being forced to fuck a guy she didn't want to, again case by case. I believe that is what the "No" lists are for. If her decision is to exclude, publicly, all Jewish men, than she has made a poor career choice,. and it is incumbent on her to change or find a new career. She has no right to expect society to change from what century's has taught us is the best way for a multi-cultural nation to exist in relative equanimity. According to the acceptable standards of behavior, and the laws of this country, she is not allowed to discriminate based on race alone.
Funny you should mention pathology. I had the same thoughts regarding men who say they like women, but than exclude an entire race. (race is used Colloquially here) They boast that they find an entire race of women unattractive. That's pathological, no that's crazy as hell. It also says a lot about their claims of manhood.
RP please with the "what if's" It didn't happen. Has not happened. Will not happen.

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ntfighter
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Posted - Sep 22 2008 : 7:53PM

I spoke to Jesse today at lunch. I am happy to report that he arrived wearing a suit like any other citizen no African garb, and he used the correct fork for his salad. Al says he has hot and cold running white girls and fuck porn, aint no percentage in that shit.

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ntfighter
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Posted - Sep 22 2008 : 8:52PM

This is exactly why it was not left to the individual citizen to decide.

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iluvrhumps
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Posted - Sep 23 2008 : 12:02AM

Why would I want to see a woman...or man, have sex with someone they dont want to have sex with. Yes its a job, but its a very intimate job Id say. I couldnt see a director, agent, or whoever force a woman...or man to have sex with someone they do not want to have sex with, no matter how big the paycheck. We enjoy seeing 2, 3...4 or more people indulging the art of sex for entertainment, but also enjoying their work. That way, we enjoy it too.

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BlackSix

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pornography wasn't sex but fantasies of an impossibly hospitable world
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Posted - Sep 23 2008 : 1:58AM

Throw out every DVD or VHS you have with Ron Jeremy, Dirty Harry, Max Hardcore, Ed Powers and Rodney Moore.

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Dean Wormer
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Posted - Sep 23 2008 : 2:14AM

Okay. To the five or six people in this thread who are outraged by the choice of some white females to refrain from IR sex what, in your opinion, is the "solution" to this "problem"?
Also, instead of complaining about the white women who do not have sex with black men why don't you just enjoy and cherish the ones who do?
Could it be the immortal words of Mr. Spock apply here:

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smallcock
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Posted - Sep 23 2008 : 2:27AM

SJOriginal ,what do you do now? Did you find it easy going back into mainstream life after porn?
I find it really awesome that you peruse boards like this after being involved in the industry so long ago. It shows that... well... you love sex ;)

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killbillvol69

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Posted - Sep 23 2008 : 2:36AM

^smallcock, you should ask Sarah Jane in her official thread.

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ntfighter
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Posted - Sep 23 2008 : 11:53AM

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Dean imho you and some of the other are taking the old stereotypical view that has existed in this country since slavery. The one that has been used to stir up animosities toward African American, and justify every thing from lynching to our current war on drugs. There is no truth to the conventional belief that all black men are only awaiting the first opportunity to soil and rut their lust on the pure body of of a white virgin. Its not about interracial porn, or it's not only about interracial porn.
I'm objecting to the porn industry assigning A special circumstance to African American full participation in the business.
When the movie "The passion of the Christ" was released Jews were very vocal in their opposition. They have absorbed the lessons of history. They fight anti-antisemitism wherever it is found. I find the current porn policy threatening to my well being and to my ability to fully participate in American society.

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NewRomancer
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Posted - Sep 23 2008 : 12:05PM

"they fight anti-antisemitism wherever it is found"
And when they can't find it, some of them often INVENT it.
"she choose to make a career in a business where she very little control over who she works with"
She has EVERY right to CHOOSE who she works with...
If you don't like that a woman CHOOSES not to fuck black dudes, for what ever reason, you have ONE recourse and one recourse only... don't buy her movies.
There's no LAW against being ignorant.

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ntfighter
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Posted - Sep 23 2008 : 12:29PM

Yeah yeah. Let let it all come out, come on.
Would you be able to judge for them what is truly a threat and what is invented?
She has a right not to let the doorknob hit her in the ass on the way out of the biz.

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NewRomancer
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Posted - Sep 23 2008 : 12:51PM

Well, fortunately you don't get to dictate to "The Biz" what they can and cannot allow, other than with your wallet...
A woman cannot be made to give up her inalienable RIGHT to control what happens to her own body, ever. So no woman ever has to fuck someone she doesn't want to, no matter what her reason is.... (porn isn't rape)
IF she's basing that choice on skin colour, then yes, she's an ignorant bigot....
But there's no law against that, and likely anything you ever did to try to change her mind would only fuel her fire...
You're free to call her on it, just as she's free to tell you to get t' fuck....
You're also free to start your own production company and make porn the way YOU think it SHOULD be done....

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Sean Renaud
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Posted - Sep 23 2008 : 2:06PM

And what exactly has this accomplished? A deep seated resentment for people who have jobs that they are percieved not to deserve. It gives us quotas, it gives us affirmative action. It breeds resentment rather than eliminates it.
I don't understand how people can scream that they want freedom, that we stand for freedom and then try to take away basic freedoms away from people. Most of the what ifs were rediculous. (or mistaken) Still for argument's sake.
1. The world at large did ignore the Apartheid. There was no invasion, the world did (largely individually) exactly what I suggested we do here. Don't do bussiness with the racists. That's what a trade sanction is in essense no?
2. The North DID ignore racism in slavery era South (ever hear of the Dred Scott case?) and for the most part ignored in the Segregation era instead allowing for local leaders to step up.
3. If men had ignored Suffragettes we wouldn't have had prohibition and the Mafia would never happened. :-P All joking aside you're talking about the government here not private industry.
I want to know something though honestly. By what authority did you make me into your slave? If I don't want to serve blacks in my restaurant that I own, that I put my blood, sweat and tears into why do you get to tell me that I have to serve them? I lose out on 13% of of the population (nationally obviously it changes area by area) anybody who isn't a racist and finds out what I'm doing wont' eat at my restaurant (and a few who are racist don't want to be seen as racist) and I'll go out of bussiness. Problem solved.
If I dont' want to work along side Mexicans. . .well that severely limits my work opportunities (particularly here in Southern California) again I'll either change my tune or I'll starve. Either way problem solved.
If I dont' want women working at my Apple Store go tell your friends I'm a sexist nobody shops at my store again I go out of bussiness. Actually in an Apple store call corporate, I get fired, problem is solved.
So where do you get the authority to tell me how I should live my life? Who decided that and why?
For that matter why aren't we having a debate over the number of men who refuse to work with men? Without even gandering at the porn agencies I'm going to guess it's north of 50%

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killbillvol69

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Posted - Sep 23 2008 : 5:09PM

^I'm going to assume the "you" in question here isn't ntfighter or myself, because neither one of us has as yet told you to do anything per se, but rather the general "you" being any person who might enforce something on you that relates to the views we're expressing.
Anyway, I'll tell you what the problem is, in regards to not hiring such-and-such a group.
Suppose it was just one random dude who didn't want women to work at his Apple store. Yeah, there may or not not be an uproar; if people boycotted him he'd either change his policy or go out of business; if they didn't boycott him, well it's still just one store.
The problem is, it's never just one store. It's an entire community/town/county/state/country/industry/whatever, shutting a particular group of people out of economic prosperity and other opportunities. That's why.
As far as how it pertains to porn, it amazes me how much everyone is freaking out about this, thinking it would destroy porn as we know it, etc, when all other countries already don't have girls saying "no interracial", and they're doing just fine. Substantial and thriving and creative porn industries exist in many countries with hot babes, and none of them are complaining that their local porn industry is so totalitarian because they're forced to do black guys.
Is the US porn industry bigger? Well yeah, of course, but that's only because the US entertainment industry in general is bigger, the US is richer, etc. I highly, HIGHLY doubt anyone will ever suggest that there's more porn being made in the US than there is in Canada, or Britain, or Brazil, or the Czech Republic because non-black females in the US can refuse to work with black guys. The two things have nothing to do with each other.
My guess? My honest guess? If this aspect of the US porn industry was changed, the only difference anyone would see is that some girls who previously hadn't done black guys, would now do black guys. The scenes wouldn't look any less passionate, there wouldn't be any fewer girls in the biz, nothing.
"Oh but the girls would be working with someone they're not attracted to!" HA! Have you ever listened to an interview with any porn girl? They all (including the ones who don't do IR) talk about how they constantly work with guys they're not into, but they do it anyway, because it's their job. They suck it up, put in a good performance and that's that. Why would it be any different with black guys?
You think a girl goes on "Midnight Prowl" or some site like that, and says to herself "I have no idea who these guys are, they're ugly as shit and they can't fuck... but this scene would be so much worse if it was with a black guy who's professionally trained at this and knows how to please a woman. Thank GOD this ugly piece of shit isn't black, then I would be truly disgusted."
No. The only reason girls say they won't do IR is because it's considered a FETISH in the US porn industry; the assumption is that porn is marketed for the white guys, and white guys don't wanna see their women with black guys, unless they have some weird, dark fetish going on: cuckolding, degradation, something like that. Any single one of you who claims it's about "choice" is in disagreement with the majority of porn girls, who claim that it's either because they're "waiting for something to do later in their career", or because they "don't do fetish stuff". The majority of them don't usually even say that they're "not attracted to black guys".
Personal choice my ass. That's a scarecrow argument, designed to distract you all from what's really going on: white guys who don't like black guys. That's all.

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CHI - BEAR 85
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Posted - Sep 23 2008 : 6:25PM

CHI - BEAR 85 wrote:
If, I hear or read one more time, about some female porn actress, stating she won't do interracial, because it will hurt her career. I'm going to scream and pop like a balloon.
There's list of females who done lots of interracial and it never hurt there career. Here's a list of names, that I can remember, maybe you guys or ladies can add more.
Sasha Grey
Inari Vachs
Hillary Scott
Kelly Wells
Gen Padova
Teagan Presely did one
Lisa Sparxxx
Thomas Spring
Lauren Phoenix
Amee Donovan
Kacey
Melissa Lauren
Monica Sweetheart
Annette Schwarz
Ariana Jollee
Amber Peach
Britney Stevens
Delilah Strong
Gianna
Flower Tucci
Julia Bond
Sophie Dee
Staci Thorn
Sindee Jennings
Naomi
Chelsie Rae
Missy Monroe
Whitney Stevens
Lea Luv
Leah Steveson
Bobbi Starr
Bree Olson
Leighlani Red
Nina Hartley
Claudia Downs
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Jenna Haze
Lexi Belle
Roxy Jezel
Liliane Tiger
Georgia Peach
Lexi Love
Katrina Kraven
Katja Kassin
And lots more, that goes on and on more then I list here that done lots of interracial scenes and these girls are famous. The most recent that is hot right now, hot and famous, is Sasha Grey,Bree Olson and Bobbi Star. Enough said! And they ain't hurting a bit, through their sexual career.
Oh, by the way, to send a message to some of these porn stars who make this false claim. Don't buy there dvds, period. There's a whole list of beautiful white females and othe ethnics, to support. Do your own research through the internet and your find the ones who don't care about a performers skin color.
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Sean Renaud
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Posted - Sep 23 2008 : 6:29PM

1. You're right (at least historically) that it's an entire region that rejects a race. Seriously though certain races just shouldn't live certain places. It sucks but it's true and forcing Bubba to hire Jamal just means that Bubba knows when Jamal gets off work so he can more efficently organize a lynching. Personally any place that I wasn't wanted that badly I simply wouldn't be.
2. My guess is that you're right a few girls would get out, but the majority would suddenly do IR.
3. It is white mens right not to like blacks and vice versa.
It still is personal choice. I don't understand where anybody gets off telling anybody else what they can and can't do with their time, money, body. Period. If a girl put on her description she won't do guys who wear the color blue, have more vowels than consents in their name, comb their hair from back to front I'd defend their choice "silly" though it may be.
I've heard a plethora of reasons why the women might be making the choices they've made. Most of them seem to be true enough, at least as true as I'm likely to get without doing an industry wide poll of some sort.
The closest thing I've heard to a reason why this choice should be taken away from the girls is because if left unchecked it could spread to the entire industry.
As far as other nations go it's not even a fair comparison. They both lack the diversity of the US (not that the US is nearly as diverse as we like to claim) and a good majority of US porn is made in Southern California which has a disprotionate amount of blacks and latinos. I'd love to see the hard stats but I'd be willing to guess an overseas pornstar wouldn't need to refuse to work with blacks, any more than girls in LA need to refuse to work with say Pacific Islanders. They are rare enough that there is no need.
Again I would argue that if a girl (or guy) refused to work with people who've been vaccinated against Measles that should be her choice.
I would like to say again though by all means start a website that lists which girls don't do IR, boycott their products. Boycott the directors that hire them and the studios they work with. Keep attacking the wallet until they are forced to change their ways.
Porn is was and shall forever remain racist btw. And that is (in part) because of personal tastes. But then again nobody is complaining that a New Sensations sells titles like I love Asians, I love Latinas, nor is anybody complaining about Candy Shop filming exclusively (or nearly exclusively) all black and interracial. Cus that's all good as it falls into the sacred land of double reverse racism. :-P

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CHI - BEAR 85
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Posted - Sep 23 2008 : 6:51PM

Here's a interesting, read! I've read somewhere, that Lexingtong Steele, had this interracial big butt video called Culos Gigantes #4 for his Company. He stated, that Alexis Texas, won't do interracial, because she was told by her agent, it would hurt her career. So, even though the video was put in the interracial catergory, she didn't have sex with a black male, instead it was non-black male. If you scroll up a few notch, you'll see the list, that I posted up, of lots of female porn stars who did interracial throughout their adult film career so her agent, was not telling the truth or she wasn't telling us the real truth, why she refuse to do interracial.

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ntfighter
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Posted - Sep 23 2008 : 7:13PM

Sean Renaud wrote:
1. You're right (at least historically) that it's an entire region that rejects a race. Seriously though certain races just shouldn't live certain places. It sucks but it's true and forcing Bubba to hire Jamal just means that Bubba knows when Jamal gets off work so he can more efficently organize a lynching. Personally any place that I wasn't wanted that badly I simply wouldn't be.
Yes keep posting you're making the case for me.
Porn is was and shall forever remain racist btw.
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Man I just had a clear mental image of you jumping from your seat in full regalia, executing a perfect heel clicking stiff armed salute. Don't that statement just scream for it.
Someone has said that about every step blacks have made in this country. We just put our head down against the howling hate, grip the good earth with our feet and keep coming, that's the trick keep moving forward. Because we are on the side of what is right and lawful.
Never again! I trust the People of the Book will allow me to borrow.
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