You're kidding, right? I've seen it all now. We are judging as proof that she knew he would put it out as to who is on whose myspace friends list? This is the proof that I have been looking for.
If the man I was dating made public our personal life, I would never speak to him again and I would certainly not have him appear anywhere on any of my social network sites for everyone to see.
The fact that she may have made light of it here doesn't serve as any evidence that she knew that it was going to come out. Neither does the fact that she may still have Manson as a friend / boyfriend / whatever. And...I'm still trying to figure out how the twitter quotes come into play.
I hope that this works well for you. Personally, I would put never speaking to the person again on a higher level than the social network sites...but everyone's different...aren't they? hmmmm...
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Posted - Jun 9 2009 : 3:01AM
Why does it matter if she knew or didn't know it was about to be made public? The fact is she did it. Mel Gibson didn't know his anti-Jewish tirade would be made public. But it still happened. The Twitter quotes show what kind of a person she is and she doesn't care about the awards people buy her and the upcoming F.A.M.E. awards that are voted on by the fans.
Edited by - Darrah on 6/9/2009 3:02:09 AM
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Posted - Jun 9 2009 : 3:05AM
I don't make my living from this industry. She does. And maintaining her social networks is extremely important when it comes to promotion and putting out there on those networks what her new projects are. Her career is suppose to be more important instead of a publicity stunt with a man who won't keep her around for that much longer.
^To two posts up: whether she knew or didn't know is what you and I have been discussing for the past number of posts. This is how it is relevant to our discussion. For instance:
Mel Gibson made his statements to someone and meant to be hurtful to that someone. IF she didn't know that it would be public information, Stoya did what she did in a private, non-adversarial context, likely at the behest of another person. As I have said, people often view what they do in private as not "counting". As such, there is a distinct possibility that she had no true malice in mind at all and was just "messing around" and being "juvenile". (I explained this more thoroughly in my second or third post on this topic, I believe.) The fact that she doesn't care for her AVN awards--or whatever other type of awards she receives--really indicates very little about her character, by the way. Further, it doesn't relate to this topic.
Edited by - fu_q on 6/9/2009 3:10:17 AM Edited by - fu_q on 6/9/2009 3:15:48 AM
Ugh. I'm going to bed. I doubt that I could make any more points on this thread.
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Posted - Jun 9 2009 : 3:22AM
Kim Kardashian had her sex tape and all the others before he and that was made in private. But she clearly wanted the tape out after seeing what a sex tape did for friend Paris Hilton's career. I read Kim and her mother/manager were both in Steven Hirsch's office brokering the deal. Kim was supposedly so horrified by the release of the video. But then says she and Hirsch are great friends now. Why would she be friends with the pornographer that released her video if she was so upset? Why is it hard to believe what Stoya did in private wasn't meant by both parties to be made public? She does porn and knows what private video can do if released. She's not a 14-year-old school girl lured in by the older boyfriend and had pictures taken of their private time together. She's getting the publicity she wanted but will play victim when she and Digital Playground start talking. She's the fairy princess while he's the big bad monster.
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Posted - Jun 9 2009 : 3:25AM
I know the world doesn't revolve around me. But I, for the most part , at least have common sense.
Not that it has any merit to this discussion, but did you ever think to look at her actual twitter page? The tweets were there before & are there now. What a first post.
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Posted - Jun 9 2009 : 4:39AM
What the hell is going on? May God strike me dead as I'm typing this but they were not there when I wrote that earlier here tonight. I went up and down that page and there were not there. Now looking at it and it's a three hour difference in them. Could her page have been manipulated in any way in just a matter of two hours since I logged in here? http://twitter.com/stoya Before three hour difference:
Right this second:
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Posted - Jun 9 2009 : 4:43AM
:) dif time zones... at mine says: @iamboneless dont ask dp for information about me. it wont be accurate. and i *did* warn you last week id be without internet for a while 4:47 PM Jun 5th from mobile web get it now?
Yeah but I shouldn't be seeing a different time in less than a day. The time she posted should still show on my end despite what part of the world anyone is living at. What I saw first is now a different time than now. But more importantly, it wasn't there two hours ago unless I lost all my vision and don't even know it yet. Yeah I'm hearing the Twilight Zone music playing now.
I looked, and the other two times match yours. Heh idk. Probably just some sort of Twitter glitch. I think they did some work friday. Maybe they missed something or caused something that led to that. Who knows. Not exactly topic-related LOL.
I have no reason to believe my opinion is any more important than anyone else's...but what else did al gore give us this message board for, right? there's a lot of arguing over why it was released, whether she knew it would happen or not. the issue is the split between people who think racism/bigotry/etc, is only bad in public. in my opinion, private stupidity is no better, and my lack of respect for anybody who thinks that way, even in jest, will probably funnel my bucks to someone elses skin flicks, though i don't get angry about your stupidity if you have no power over me. in my opinion, there are some things, very few in the entire history of man where it's a little crass to imply people should 'get over it'...hate crimes, genocide and the survivors still being around sorta makes this rank up there with a guy who's mother just died of cancer and father is in hospice to 'get over it'. that said, i don't tell people to shut up any more than i shut up when told, so have fun. Edited by - wraithlead on 6/9/2009 6:56:53 AM
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Posted - Jun 9 2009 : 8:43AM
WOW! All these posts and not one with any photo evidence to support this.
Now I understand. He was prepping her for her upcoming role in the film "Fascist Vaginas." Women with Hitler's mustaches, shaved swastikas, and the like. Check your release calendars.
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Posted - Jun 9 2009 : 12:13PM
Maybe she can capitalize on all this attention by putting out a line of videos under the alter ego Eva Von Stoya.
Man if I had Evan Rachel Wood as my girlfriend I would do eveything to keep her as my girlfriend that's for sure! But to get back on-topic. Jordan Lee had an swastika tat on her ankle but she did IR. And there was some girl with swastika tat on her back or butt but later she changed it into something else. Can't remember who she was. And didn't Jack Hammer have a swastika tat also?
Hmm there must be a way to change this subject. By the way the whole swastika thing is a freedom of expression thing.. maybe bad taste but it is freedom of expression... at least there was such civil liberties before the Bush regime (no pun on "Bush") So lets change the subject. I heard that Sasha Grey wears a Nazi uniform when she goes out in public. Ooops damn a fascist tendency took over my typing fingers. Can someone post some nude pictures of gorgeous Stoya so that we shut up because we are all too busy pouring out litres of bodily fluids in lust for her.
So let a german person fnally speak: Funny thing is also that in Germany and Austria it is a crime to draw the "Hackenkreuz". Guess what people still do it all the time! drawing a swastika is in no way as evil as all those racist, fasicts and other that still run around. Hell hating on jews, using nazi therms and worshipping the mann from "Braunau am Inn" is something of an hidden "inpriivate" national consense. there are even parties, who together, get some 27% of the vote in Austria. I hate all of that and really Dont care about this story. also I have to say when i first heared it I laughed. edit: I also found Darrah blogpost about it funny. Edited by - Prom000 on 6/9/2009 11:19:03 PM
I'm not saying it's true, but I've heard a rumor that Evan Seinfeld may have shaved a "Sombrero" in Kristina Rose's bush. lol
SHYLOCK "Patron of the Tarts" Spieglergirls.com "Vivid girls are the ones your mom warned you about, but Spieglergirls are the ones your cardiologist warns you about!" - jrv Edited by - Shylock on 6/10/2009 1:23:41 AM
I'm now hearing a rumor that Dana DeArmond is trying to grow a bush in the hope that some "Rock Star" will shave something into it in order to allow her to sympathize with Bobbi Starr. lol
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Posted - Jun 10 2009 : 1:20AM
^ someone convinced you that you are funny guy, right? cmon.... for man with your age you can do better, oke, baba? I mean okeee we got the point of ur girls bushes but on *this thread* we don't care about it even if they have godzilla made bellow there... oke? Edited by - boneless on 6/10/2009 1:28:48 AM
This post nails it, for me! It's a pathetic and cheap publicity stunt, by someone who has fuck all worth saying! It's the sort of mindless crap that 12 year old boys do with a spray can on a wall. Make the dude sit through Shindler's List, then ask him if he thinks he's funny and smart. MM IS A JERK! Same goes for all the other idiots who've took this symbol in vain.
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Sry for bad english, I am dumb Serb, we know how to fight, not to write ... 151 Posts 6/08
Posted - Jun 10 2009 : 4:02AM
hey I must say "the spieglly" is happy guy since he had hot girls to stand up and defend him... [o\|]
mikesouth.com Seems like Mike's suggesting that Manson "pulled the plug" on Stoya's porn career??? That's another good reason, besides the fact that they're crap, to put Manson's albums on the fire!
I got this feeling something was gonna happen before the announcement of MM & the swastika bush due to her twitters. Either leave or was gonna try to change her contract & if couldn't then try to leave. I suppose this latest stuff could of escalated it all. God I really hope MM isn't behind it beyond the bush issue. Let alone, I really hope she doesn't give up porn. If she wants to leave DP, that's fine. It's her life though; she can do what she wants. I just want it to be her decision. Edited by - blackraven87 on 6/10/2009 6:21:46 PM