I will never watch this scene in respect for Taryn. It's not the way I want to see her. Nor do I think any of her fans want to see her like this. A self destructing, weak Taryn is not what I want to see. I like her happy into her scenes that's why I am in love with her. Meatholes is disgusting and I wish Taryn never did that to her self. That site should be shut down.
I think they are trying to encourage the viewing public to imagine they own a share of that cock. A sort of projective fantasy. [song parody] This cock is your cock, this cock is my cock From shaft, to the frenulum From the corona, to the urinary meatus This cock was made for you and me [/song parody] Now some enterprising pornographer should refer to our breasts and our vagina in advertisments. I wonder how many ladies fantisize about cock ownership of the attached variety. Sigmond Fraud (drats freudian slip) would probably say many. Do ladies prefer to fantisize about owning cocks that are not physically attached to them?
I don't know why the source was not removed before I read this thread, but I've been deleting it as I go through. I personally can't check ADT every day atm. Tony did already get spoken to by DD though.
FWIW (next to nothing, I know) I've never seen anything by meatholes nor do I wish to from the snippets I've read in threads like this, and I have no idea who Taryn is outside of this thread. Actually, I don't know jack shit about Khan Tusion or Meatholes either.
What amazes me is how many girls do scenes for Meatholes. Looking at the site, one can easily recognize many "big stars". http://tour.meatholes.com/4/preview.php?id=
My first post didn't post for some reason, but I wanted to thank Taryn for speaking up about this...it really is a problem that has infected the entire industry. Listen guys, your product sells because it's freakish...not hot. It's the equalivalent of "Faces of Death" and train wrecks...adult movies are about fantasies, not real examples of abuse. Nore are they a way for weak men to deal with there issues. Grow the fuck up boys and CREATE something unique......and sexy. (keyword here is create)Producers don't make a movie..they create one [them].
Edited by - fedupwithgonzo on 7/27/2005 2:30:08 PM
I might also add, these guys almost NEVER get permits to shoot... watch it guys...this new 2257 was done for a reason. You have abused not only the girls, but the system as well. On the flip side, the only way the indusrty can go is full circle. The day of the high budget feature is coming back...mark my word.
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Posted - Jul 27 2005 : 2:45PM
The 'entire industry'?
sunchen said: “Sometimes I just think to myself, WHY would I ever want to see pics of myself completely nekkid? And who else in their right minds would want to? (All right, maybe some of you pervs, but who said you're in you're right minds?)”
Yes. Internet and movies. Industry, not companies.
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chocolate_cougar Deactivated User
Dumb & Dumber 57 Posts 7/05
Posted - Jul 27 2005 : 3:47PM
I don't know who you are but I think you're right about these meatholes guys. This is not the time to scream comedy, if I was Taryn I'd sue them, since I joined the Lions club lately I could give out addresses from LA based lawyers to help you without charge.
The more producers disassociate themselves from these women-haters the better for the pornbiz. In the end their misogynist crap backfires on the entire american sexindustry. Maybe you'll soon welcome something that makes 2257 look like a good deal thanks to such scumbags.
I think meatholes dvds should be banned from the ADT database too (if they aren't already). 'pornfans' with a meatholes subscription are on page one in my book of losers, anyway.
greetings from Europe.
Edited by - chocolate_cougar on 7/27/2005 3:57:53 PM
Some girls like this sort of thing. Some don't. Some like the money and don't care one way or the other about the scene.
Remember the physical and mental aspects to a MeatHoles pose different challenges. In February Taryn had this to say about the scene:
I'd suspect that too much attention was paid to whether she could handle the physical aspect of the scene and not enough attention paid to the mental aspect.
Melissa Lauren is an example of a porn girl who seems to like the idea of MeatHoles but from the other end of the whip. I think Venus has done scenes from both ends of the whip. Gia Jordan said at the top of the thread that “it rocks”, but that doesn't mean she'd do one.
Insex is usually considered much further “out there” than MeatHoles.
[/quote] Insex is usually considered much further “out there” than MeatHoles. [/quote] I agree that there is "much further out there than Meatholes" the main difference is they are really niche sites/videos, not "mainstream" porn. I for one have NEVER heard of insex. I am looking for some samples of their work right now...but it seems to me it's bondage, not actual sex and pain against their wishes.To some, bondage is an art form...I challenge anyone to show any "art" in the shit Khan puts out...the only Art Khan has ever been involved with seems to be a Guy named Art when he was young.
How will they make high budget and sell it for $20/DVD? There is no multi-million dollar theater revenue like in the 70s. How would the mainstream public even know it exists?
Things are going to have to change. The VOD market will take off and make DVD's obsolete...cutting costs way down and expanding the audience. When I say VOD..think past internet...think cable and sat. VOD IS the future, period.
It amazes me because it seems many porn fans have a negative view of Meatholes, that if I was a star I would avoid it like the plague. The girls who so often claim to not be in porn for the money, but for the fans, then turn up in a Meatholes segment.
I think I've met an actress who wasn't in it primarily for the money maybe two or three times in 17 years in the adult business -- & they were on the fringes, & didn't last long.
You can have a negative view of Meatholes (or other producers) without having a negative view of the women who work there. I don't see that fan reaction would be in play here.
I don't understand the reasons why people watch that crap. From what I've seen, there is nothing at all sexually stimulating when watching their "porn." It just seems like the girls that signed up for this basically give permission to what seems like a sexual assault. If you like watching meatholes, pissmops, etc., seek mental help. There's nothing hot at all about watching women get belittled. If they keep it up, it'll only be a matter of time before the government really gets involved. 2257 is just a wake up call.
It isn't all that bad. Some scenes are rougher than others. I really like some that i've seen such as Mya Mason's. Some are even quite tame (cristalina, nautica thorne, dascha). From what i've seen the only the Nicky Hunter scene i found particulary startling. Roxy Jezel puking about 5 times was also a bit hard to watch. From what i've heard of Taryn's scene i'd add that though i never saw it.
2257 is about record keeping for IDs. It has nothing to do with "psycho/mental stuff".
Here are some credible reasons for removing the scenes:
1. Perhaps the ID information they used to collect turns out not to meet 2257 standards.
2. Perhaps when they went back to verify compliance they found some records had in fact been lost.
3. Perhaps when they hired a lawyer to review 2257 issues they wound up reviewing their entire legal situation, and decided to remove some clips for safety. In this case you might see some clips reappear with minor edits.
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chocolate_cougar Deactivated User
Dumb & Dumber 57 Posts 7/05
Posted - Jul 31 2005 : 9:45AM
perhaps this kind of mental & verbal abuse can still be subsumed under sexual assault? perhaps they're rightly scared to shit this might now backfire on them?
the ill-fated 2257 may look like a little nuisance when compared to the consequences which may arise out of such incidents for the more reasonable and caring producers in the american pornindustry. It's about time to point the "right" people in their direction now.
Nah, people like to own their hard copies of things. I know the only things I've ever gotten on PPV were assorted Wrestling shows, and movies-on-demand isn't exactly taking off where I live, and is also unavailable to most people in my country.
People love to "steal" things via download, but they prefer hard copy when purchasing, at least in my experience.
Also, this was a poll topic here at some point in the past, do a search and look it up if you're interested...
Meatholes scenes are for the most part not for everyone I've seen some of them, out cruosity, and some I like and some I can't understand why the girls allow themselves to be treat like a piece of shit which do nothing for me. But every once a while they come up with something that is hot, like Dasha's scene or Kerri Kraven's where she gets fisted by Venus and asks for more, I thought that was hot. The action in Meatholes is not bad, it's the verbal abuse that's disturbing and a turn off for me.
You'll have to buy the dvd. I think they might be watering down the web content as its fuel for the fire for the anti-porn lobby in wake of 2257. I think they have a members message board so you could ask them about it if you're a member.
I actually rented this movie a couple days ago just to see what everyone was talking about. What EXACTLY was the deal with the Taryn scene? Taryn, if you don't mind me asking, was something said or done to piss him off and make him harder one you than he was in the other scenes? Nautica's scene was beyond tame and it seemed as if it was more play in the Kat and Delylah scenes. But he verbally assaulted you the entire time, making it a horrible scene. The other scenes were watchable because for the most part it was as if they were just goofing around like other gonzo scenes with the exception of the weird talk about their parents and dogs. But it was quite evident that you didn't want anything to do with the scene and that was a mojor turnoff. It's a shame yo uhad to be put through that.
It was on LukeIsBack.com a few days ago that the credit card processor told them to remove certain scenes. They have in effect more power over anything the government can do. The mostv extreme sites have to hunt round for a processor that will take them, usually from The Netherlands, which presumably pushes costs right up.
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What are you looking at? It 2452 Posts 3/05
Posted - Aug 17 2005 : 1:56PM
To an extent, I agree with Scipio. Although I don't believe that refering to VOD is at all stealing. This is just technology taking it's course, making material (hard copy) items harder to find over the years. Think Stallone's "Demolition Man" when you are asking yourself "What the hell is talking about?"
Downloading a certain clip of a certain star from a 3rd party website (other than the production company's official site) could definitely be considered THEFT. Granted, like someone who buys a TV "off the street", we porn consumers don't know it at the time, because it's not noted on the website which video the scene(s) came from.
As for the "hard copy" aspect, I agree 99.9% - I want to view it over & over, when I want to!!,..because I PAID FOR IT. Rather not have a 7, 14, or 30-day restriction on how many times I can watch it off a website. That is no more than long term rental, AFAIC. VOD will only succeed when the general public can burn a copy to their harddrive / DVD-R without some kind of college degree.
(Off-topic) FWIW, Scipio, I got "ECW One Night Stand" on PPV, then in turn bought the DVD from WWEshopzone. The only disappointing thing I found was the lack of Metallica's "Enter Sandman" when the former entered the ring (apparently a 1-time deal Heyman made for the licensing of the song). Otherwise, the event itself was awesome, esp. being a native of the Philadelphia suburbs.
Those men on MEATHOLES scare the shit out of me. That Ramone and that one black guy that is missing his teeth and his cock looks like donkey cock. YUK. They do truly frighten me.
I didn't have much of an idea until i took a look at a trailer from their site. I love gonzo, i like a little bit of slapping and a little hair pulling. but this meatholes is fucking excessive. I don't want to see a chick bawl her eyes out how the hell is that sposed to be a turn on??! I think its good that Taryn isn't ever going to do anything like that again she's too hot to need to go through that kind of depravity She doesn't need to build a fan base by making that shit. I was kinda surprised that Tory Lane was on that site and a couple of other girls
i think you said it right there "I don't understand the reasons why people watch that crap. "
it varies upon the person.
Me, Alexander/Monstar, don't like watching Gapes, I don't understand the reasons why people watch it, but i'm not the one stroking to it, so rawk on.
some peeps need ATM (eww. for me BTW), DPs, Interracial, or yes, Meatholes, or whatever sub-genre.
personally, give me a dirty talking hot chick in lingerie and i'm kool and the gang.
yeah...i still sucker myself into it. for example I still will buy movie magazines like rue mourge or whatever, when i'm sure i could find info on the net...blah.
You are right I will never subject myself to anything like that ever again. It's a live and learn experience thing... One I wish I didn't have to learn.
But I was also surprised to see other girls on the site as well. Like Tory, Eva etc... Although I don't think the treatment they got was nearly as harsh as mine was.
I havn't seen it but can anyone actually tell me how Taryn and other unhappy girls got themselves in a position to do a shoot for them? Did they not know what goes on and have "safe words". I wonder if they've had girls who refused to sign the model release at the end and not bothered to collect a kill fee.
I watched this DVD to see what all the talk is about, Taryn's scene isn't something that turns me on here, matter of fact I felt kindda depressed after watching this DVD.
Thankfully I got my Taryn's fix from Assault That Ass 7 right after it, and it cheered me up.
As for Meatholes, some girls can take physical abuse and the scene can turn out ok, Dascha, and Kerri scenes were good, but for the most part I don't find it appealing, arousing or anything like that.
Petite Hottie Has A Tight Grip - review by Danielmayu33216
Posted - Jul 27 2005 : 1:13AM