I'd like to stay but I've got a plane to catch. 3243 Posts 5/06
Posted - Jan 19 2008 : 8:45PM
It's good to know one can get the pulse of the entire adult industry from a fanboy that lives in Detroit. No need to ask anyone that actually works in the business what is going on.
I just have two short comments about this thread. 1) Any good contract has a dissolution clause. If the lawyers who drafted the contract didn't take into consideration that one or both parties might change their minds, then they did a terrible job. 2) Sports isn't really a model. The sports industry is highly distorted by the fact that the leagues are all essentially monopolies or cartels. The owners have agreed not to sign players who break contracts, making it impossible for a player to get a job if he or she leaves a team while they are under contract with that team. In other industries, employment contracts are broken regularly-- by employers and employees. Thus the dissolution clause. That said, I don't know what's happening in this case, and I certainly don't want to start assigning blame. My best wishes to both Teagan and DP.
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JulesJordan gonzo fan Deactivated User
47 Posts 10/07
Posted - Jan 19 2008 : 9:11PM
if there really isn't any legal cases, as previously reported, and DP is stating they have no idea what they are talking about, maybe its just teagan's nice way of not wanting to do porn??? maybe they don't have the funds to shoot their own company, and realized its more money when shooting for their own company, maybe they couldn't get a distrubutor, who knows what the real deal is.... or maybe teagan realized that she has two children and wants to settle down for a bit, whatever it may be, we all respect your decision!!
nothing even close to what you posted...truth is a lot of people want to distribute teagans product,,,what smart business person wouldnt? she is 22 an has a huge fan base...
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ArinsystmaticX Deactivated User
1968 Posts 12/05
Posted - Jan 19 2008 : 9:41PM
Gotta love it when fanboys call others fanboys...never gets too old.
If the speculation here is correct, then I could only say this to Teagan and Tyler --- you should have hired better counsel when you renewed with DP. When you re-upped, I'm sure you considered the financial security that a contract gave you as opposed to branching out on your own and having to find investors or financing your own venture. And let's face it, the DP work would probably mean that you wouldn't have to perform in the hard-edged gonzo if you went out on your own. I have to believe that with your new family, the best decision at the time was to renew. But now during the term of the renewed contract, you have realized (I'm sure the recent AEE helped as well) that your name can sell products and you shouldn't have to split royalties and income. And by "breaking" the contract, you can achieve this financial security much sooner, especially as your "big earning" period expires in the next few years. I hate to say this but that is why the U.S. has the best judicial system and is the envy of every democratic/capitalistic country in the world. Contracts are meant to be enforced by all parties with few exceptions. And sorry Teagan, realizing that you're not making your true worth is not an exception. Your only hope is to offer DP some terms to allow you to renegotiate.
Porno movies, sexy videos, xxx. Adult DVD Talk at your service. 6409 Posts 11/99
Posted - Jan 19 2008 : 9:58PM
Tyler, you may want to read more of ArinsystmaticX's history here before you put yourself out there as his defender. His deactivation has nothing to do with which side of this battle he's on. I don't care about silencing anyone considering nothing has been said here anyway.
I just thinks it's funny that Arin can defend me & maybe not say the nicest things though & granite sometimes us posters do get passionate with what we say just like me in the instance of that lela star comment. But I've seen so many other people who have been worse then him and they had a history & didn't have them deactivated until way later. Due to the circumstances, if he was deactivated due to his behavior on this thread, I take responsibility for his actions & due to that he should be reinstated. Thank you & hope you guys consider my comments & take it into consideration! xox Teagan http://teaganraw.com
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benderset Deactivated User
477 Posts 8/06
Posted - Jan 19 2008 : 10:28PM
I wouldnt say Cody is always a stand up guy... Hes the same guy who posted that Lacie Heart was a below average performer on here while contracted with Vivid but soon as she signed on with DP he was on here posting what a great performer and addition she was to DP.
what did arin say that was so wrong? enough to deactivate him? let us all know, so that mistake doesnt happen to the next "fanboy" that speaks their mind
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benderset Deactivated User
477 Posts 8/06
Posted - Jan 19 2008 : 10:35PM
I was reading through this thread and I really cant see anything that Arin said that would be cause to deactivate him... What did he say that was so wrong? If you cant give your opinion on things whats the use of the forum? Edited by - benderset on 1/19/2008 10:38:36 PM
so im confused tyler.... by saying "fanboys" are you downing some of us in a way???? isn't in the FANS in fact that make your wife so popular????? if i was wrong about the post then thats fine, i was trying to state that teagan doesn't need to justify her actions to the world, im sure there are many companies that would want to distrube her product, shes huge, shes awesome, she's one of the best of the best, i was just showing there could be many reasons for her actions thats all
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benderset Deactivated User
477 Posts 8/06
Posted - Jan 19 2008 : 10:43PM
The sad thing is this forum stance is that the want to create a place where industry people will come and post and with all this not letting people speak whats on their mind more and more of the industry people are posting on xxxporntalk rather than here.... I would say that a clue to loosen up aliitle
i was actually defending arin, i was saying it as a joke because i don't consider someone calling someone a fanboy an offensive thing seeing how i was a fanboy of hers before we were together. there is nothing negative about my statement.
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benderset Deactivated User
477 Posts 8/06
Posted - Jan 19 2008 : 10:52PM
Now honestly Arin didnt get deactivated for anything he wrote in this thread? Its a joke right?
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JulesJordan gonzo fan Deactivated User
47 Posts 10/07
Posted - Jan 19 2008 : 10:54PM
then can either you or teagan clarify this real quick, last month teagan posted that she worked with erik everhard, so im confused as to how she was being held back from performing when she talked about a scene she did?
not sure no one will give a solid answer...all they say is look at the history...i think everyone in teagans thread can vouch that sexyjenn was a lot worse and nothing was said...got to love corporate america...soon as he said something about a certain company he was deactivated
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benderset Deactivated User
477 Posts 8/06
Posted - Jan 19 2008 : 11:02PM
I remember a year or so back and Devon was saying DP was triing to not allow her to use the name Devon anymore and she was going to have to the Kristie on comes Cody and the DP crew and said that they had no idea what she was talking about now it looks like they are triing the same trick with Teagan now.... DP let her go she isnt ever coming back you can make more money of selling her old scenes if shes still out making movies than you can if shes not
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conquistador Deactivated User
Hellhamster. 2947 Posts 10/03
Posted - Jan 19 2008 : 11:06PM
He has been deactivated before. You didn't look at the history did you? And while you are at it get your shift key fixed so you can use capital letters and fix the period key so each time you press it it only gets triggered once, thanks.
Edited by - conquistador on 1/19/2008 11:08:01 PM
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JulesJordan gonzo fan Deactivated User
47 Posts 10/07
Posted - Jan 19 2008 : 11:08PM
good.... im glad a few others don't like him as well, tyler is right, he is the same loser that made negative comments towards teagan, he works on prjects with DP, and thinks he can just speak for their company as a whole, dude your not the PR, not samantha lewis, not joone, not robby d, i'd say your credit is maybe an inch bigger than ours buddy
i love the way you made it look like i typed something when i didnt,,,,,,my keys work fine,,, this is how i type when im getting a blowjob from teagan,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
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benderset Deactivated User
477 Posts 8/06
Posted - Jan 19 2008 : 11:17PM
Cody's creditability went out the window with me in this thread https://forum.adultdvdtalk.com/forum/topic.dlt/topic_id=93235/forum_id=10/cat_id=1/reply=915408#post915408
#SDNY he's all yours. -- Michael Steele 5110 Posts 3/03
Posted - Jan 19 2008 : 11:18PM
Deactivated before, and then allowed back, over howls of protest from some quarters. Learned absolutely nothing from the experience. Turning this thread into a silly "Me & Teagan vs. the World!!!" fantasy, and making stupid, irresponsible claims about people being influenced by free screeners was probably the straw that broke the camels back.
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benderset Deactivated User
477 Posts 8/06
Posted - Jan 19 2008 : 11:28PM
I cant remember what he got banned for the first time but this time he didnt say anything that was bad at all. The forum has to give alittle wiggle room hell from what I seen if he got banned there should be a few others get banned in this thread as well
Persistent idiocy. He's the last guy you want arguing your case, because he has the credibility of a gnat. All I can say is, I left the house for about 6 hours this afternoon, and am not surprised he got deactivated in the interim. I wonder if he'll be smart enough to contrive an alternate ID that's not a dead giveaway (though here's a tip, try spellcheck and you'll be harder to detect right away). Edited by - skronker on 1/19/2008 11:34:17 PM
yeah his action was a reaction from something that someone said to him...i know that he was banned before not once but twice once it was a mistake by moderator an once cuz he was out of line...now this which he is out numbered...truth is porn needs fans like arin so does adt...what fan wont be able to speak their mind next
Tyler I hope you you and Teagn continue to post here but I could understand why you and other industry people wouldnt want to with not being to get a the true opinion of the fans without the fear of them getting banned Edited by - benderset on 1/19/2008 11:40:36 PM
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benderset Deactivated User
477 Posts 8/06
Posted - Jan 19 2008 : 11:42PM
Does DP pay to advertise on this site?
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benderset Deactivated User
477 Posts 8/06
Posted - Jan 19 2008 : 11:59PM
Now here is a guy that should be banned. No need to attack the guy when he cant defend himself +1 on banning skronker
How did that thread affect Cody's credibility in any way whatsoever? He posted a press release from Digital Playground. He didn't write the press release. It didn't contain his opinions. When you confronted him about something that he had posted 3 month earlier and asked if his opinion had changed, he said that he hadn't seen her recent work, so he didn't have an opinion. It's not as if he suddenly claimed that she was a great performer, once she signed with Digital Playground. Some people around here really need some lessons in reading comprehension.
Actually, Arin defends himself best by silence. The guy needs to take a logic and rhetoric class, or he'll continue to flail like a dying trout in message board squabbles. I'm only here to help.
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eyeballs a bleeding Deactivated Again
181 Posts 9/07
Posted - Jan 20 2008 : 12:17AM
How is she being forced to quit? By not upholding her end of her contract? By not upholding her end of the contract, she chooses to retire. If she didn't want to be a contract girl, and instead be a free agent owning her own product, she shouldn't have resigned her contract. Or a simplier solution could be, sit with with the contract holder, determine how many scenes that she would have be required under the original terms of the contract, and spend a few weeks knocking out the required number of scenes. Then after the terms are completed, she can spend the next year filming 15 scenes a month, stockpiling enough footage to carry her into old age. Contract holder has it's contracted number of scenes, Teagan is free to produce her own material. Problem solved.
I wish it was that cut & dry!!! Once again I can't defend myself because I'm not going to go into specifics. Sorry! But that is not the case or else I wouldn't have resigned don't you think I would have been smarter then that considering I had my gameplan of what I wanted when I came back from the 2nd hiatus. I just don't want the fans getting scared to post because they fear they will get deactivated. xox Teagan http://teaganraw.com
Edited by - TeaganPresley on 1/20/2008 12:23:34 AM
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Porn Scout Deactivated User
3735 Posts 10/02
Posted - Jan 20 2008 : 12:22AM
Whoever made the comment that she should have made sure there was some sort of reasonable dissolution or escape clause in the contract is dead on. Off the top of my head, something like a one-year window to give the company time to release all of the performer's scenes before losing exclusivity would probably work. Any halfway decent lawyer could have figured out something reasonable that both parties could agree to. But locking her up for 4 years and keeping her from profiting off of her own name and image during the prime of her career is unreasonable.
Huh? I never said Lacie Heart was a great performer. I still think Lacie is a below average performer even with DP. I don't play favorites with the girls just because they're signed with DP. My favorite girls in the industry aren't even from DP(Kinzie Kenner, Hillary Scott, Kelsey Michaels) so make sure you get your facts straight lol.
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JulesJordan gonzo fan Deactivated User
47 Posts 10/07
Posted - Jan 20 2008 : 1:23AM
teagan, i don't think it was a good idea to have your husband come on here, whoever's idea that was, your husband is acting like an idiot, with his smart ass remarks to other members, who are your fans isn't cool
I'm glad someone here gets it. I put up a trailer link for a new movie and I would get blasted for it for playing favorites. It's amazing. lol I laugh reading this thread because everyone thinks my favorite girls are from DP. If you read my whole history of posts, everyone would know that my favorite girls are Kinzie Kenner, Hillary Scott, Kelsey Michaels and Christie Lee(I think that's about it) and none of them have ever been contracted to DP. I just wish people would get the facts straight instead of false accusations. I don't write press releases. I don't review movies. I am not a PR. When did anyone assume I did any of that? Stop being so angry.