First of all, he's been defending Arin because of his deactivation & defending people's right to state their opinions & not be too scared to, because they don't want to get deactivated even if they do have a history of being controversial. We all thrive off these boards in one way or another. Not to mention defending, ME!! And yet, this person brings up a topic of drugs which is completely irrelevant & any of my fans who knew me would know that since I came back this 2nd time, that's the last thing I'd be near or around. Secondly, NEVER refer to my husband as an idiot. I know some of you may not agree with his comments, ideas, etc. but who cares that's my husband, be respectful!! Finally, the only reason why he has a problem is because Cody did jump on this thread with his comment & he's responding to them. And due to our past dealings with Cody becasue of him making fun of me in previous bts & trailers for movies that I wasn't even in. I was very angry by this, he promised me he'd never do it again, but yet it keeps happening. Either way someone's guilty for it, it's not like Cody doesn't know what's going on in the trailers & so forth. It's not that great of a feeling when the company that you're suppose to be backing has members of it's company humilating you to your fans on a personal level & making fun of you in a distateful way (ie - std's, flames, looping of takes, farting noices, etc). You guys never did that to any of the other girls, but yet always me. So I've held you accountable whether you did it or not due to your past history with me. I hope I could clarify the hostility! xox Teagan http://teaganraw.com
Teagan, you know I don't edit movies so I don't know every detail of what goes on with the final products. I have nothing to do with post-production so it's not fair that I'm even part of that discussion. It's so unfair I'm getting accused of this stuff. I don't hold the camera. I don't edit the movies. I don't say anything bad to anyone or make fun of anyone and yet I'm the bad guy. Go figure. If there's an edit you don't like, I have nothing to do with it.
No, you just did a skit saying to all of my fans implying that I have crabs. That's all. That was my problem, remember that. And ever since then things have happened constantly. That was one of the first things that stuck out in my mind throughout these years. That's what I was referring to. I know you don't do editing, but let's see you can't tell me you don't know what's going on in the office. Everyone shows everyone their work & you can't tell me the editors never called you in to show you since I know how much you are into porn. And that you never sat with them & laughed about it & let it go into final production without saying "hey you know this probably is going to piss off one of our contract girls really badly to say this or do this to her fans in a trailer/bts" . So which means technically you're just as guilty. I've spent enough time in the office, I'm not stupid remember that. I just lead people to believe I am, that's the ironic thing!!! Teagan
No, you just did a skit saying to all of my fans implying that I have crabs. That's all. That was my problem, remember that. And ever since then things have happened constantly. That was one of the first things that stuck out in my mind throughout these years. That's what I was referring to. I know you don't do editing, but let's see you can't tell me you don't know what's going on in the office. Everyone shows everyone their work & you can't tell me the editors never called you in to show you since I know how much you are into porn. And that you never sat with them & laughed about it & let it go into final production without saying "hey you know this probably is going to piss off one of our contract girls really badly to say this or do this to her fans in a trailer/bts" . So which means technically you're just as guilty. I've spent enough time in the office, I'm not stupid remember that. I just lead people to believe I am, that's the ironic thing!!! Teagan
congratulations seriously I'm a dork in the midwest, I have nothing to lose, but you should take a break for the night, this isn't helping anyone except gawkers like me who like train wrecks
Cody you bastard, I know that my roomate showed you those pictures he took of me on new years where he shaved my eyebrows when I passed out, I hold you personally responsible.
We've been trying to straighten things out, of course we are going to go back & forth. There is no train wreck. It's nothing that isn't on the interent already or hasn't already been said. But the fact is that if we keep quiet everytime just like we always have people mistake that for weakness or for their comments being right & they just keep going & going with them. Which makes me feel the need. Hey I'm stuck @ home anyways with a family going to bed early & what I usually do on my weekends & nights is talk to my fans so it's nothing new that I'm posting it's just in a different thread & a different topic. I mean come on, I've sat in the adt chat room for over 3 hours talking to fans. This sort of thing is not uncommon. xox Teagan http://teaganraw.com
Big difference between that & telling fans you have std's. Sorry a much thicker line considering how touchy of an issue it is for people who are not well versed in the background of porn & the way they persceive us. I mean Digital Playground has an image to uphold as do I & any other person or company in any business or aspect of life!!! xox Teagan http://teaganraw.com Edited by - TeaganPresley on 1/20/2008 2:08:10 AM
mine is more of a "I know you didn't do it but you knew about it so i hold you responsible" just doesn't seem fair, however I don't know cody at all he may well be a dick, but I was also pointing out it really seems like an email chewing out cause I didn't know that you were hated at the office before that.
Well, I apologize if I did anything to upset you. It was Jack's Playground and everything was meant to be jokes in that movie, you know the series. To be honest, I really don't look at final products anymore so if you asked me in the past year what BTSs/Trailers were done, I can barely recall. There's not much more to say about this subject.
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Posted - Jan 20 2008 : 3:27AM
This thread sure has alot of hostility in it from yesterday when i read the first 15 posts or so.
Yes it has. I'm pretty much done with this thread. Every time, I respond to a DP related post, I get slaughtered no matter what. So what's the point? It's so negative here. I just want happy people around.
you guys must have missed teagans assertion on page three about the reasons behind the lawsuit. She stated it right there! everyone knows that when a starlet signs a contract, that they make much LESS money per month than they were doing gonzo scenes. But the other side to that coin is more publicity, more marketing, and they have to work a lot less with a smaller list of guys. Teagan was (and still is) a very marketable girl on the gonzo market. So she stated in her post that she has a family to support now (2 children and a husband). Its impossible to support 4 people on a contract girls salary (at least in LA). But if Teagan were able to do gonzo movies, she would probably QUADRUPLE her monthly income (providing she was doing non condom scenes with guys other than just her husband). So thats definitely motivation for Teagan to want out of her contract, she almost HAS to because of her family obligations now. But obviously Digital Playground is not very happy about this situation....they spent a lot of money marketing and promoting Teagan and her career. And remember, she has been out of commission for 9 months....not once but twice during the length of her contract. I am sure the top brass of DP aren't too happy about that. So it's only natural that they are trying to stop her from leaving without recouping some of that money from her. This is an interesting scenario and I wonder who will win. I think we can all agree that Teagan should not have signed that contract if she wanted to have 2 children, knowing she would be the only breadwinner in the family. But still, she has a right to feed her family. I guess we will see whose lawyers win.
But I have also made them money in return & just gotten paid for a scene check & nothing else...So think about the revenue they've made throughout the 3 years of having me under exclusive contract & gaining alot of my gonzo fans who followed me from the gonzo to Digital Playground. So, THANK YOU TO THE FANS!!!!! You're support has been so tremendous!!! I technically only took 8 months off each time. As well as came back to performing less then 90 days the first time & exactly 60 days almost the second time. But that length of time was because you're required NOT to have sex. And in order to get back to shooting each time because I was trying to be a team player for taking time off to have babies I lost all of my weight in 45 days the first time & 30 days the second. I was alot more on board about Digital Playground then people liked to believe. (Even though I've always pumped up their shit that I was in). I just wanted to state a fact not alot of people knew, but just thought I would throw it out there so that there's no confuscion. xox Teagan http://teaganraw.com
Dude, why don't you explain why you made fun of her in BTS? Why alienate one your company's stars? Do you really respect her so little? You know the girls in this industry are sensitive, so those antics were not a stellar business move. Even some in editing at DP should have cut those comments out. So obviously, this alienation would help fuel her desire to leave. Edited by - moodyblues on 1/20/2008 4:49:09 AM
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Posted - Jan 20 2008 : 7:00AM
I don't think anything more is coming out of this thread that's worth anything. Teagan, I wish you the best of luck and hope you can work out a settlement with DP.
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Posted - Jan 20 2008 : 10:43AM
Everyone can state their opinion as long as they follow the basics laid out in our etiquette. I suggest the people posting in this thread read it. Constantly getting in stupid little fights will lead to deactivation. Tyler and Teagan, you're welcome to continue corresponding with Arin. I choose to no longer deal with his insanity.
I feel silly about my first post on this topic, and I think it happened owing to the shock of the announcement and wanting to be supportive of Teagan. People have posted that parties enter into contracts with the aim of serving their own ends, some of which are common and others are their own. Not knowing how production companies operate when it comes to analyzing what titles/stars/directors/mediums will bring in what money, it is difficult to judge what impact Teagan leaving would have. Digital Playground has a contract with Teagan, one that Teagan entered knowing what it could do for her then, now, and in the future. Bottom line, she should honor it or make an effort to compensate what DP could lose. I would like to stress again not knowing any facts about the situation makes it tough, and somehow inappropriate, to speculate. We get connected to the stars, as they are the ones to which we attach our fantasies. The production comanies have a right to protect their interests, and to assume the "object of our affection" is inherently right is not fair. I will continue to enjoy DP productions, and hope that what is certainly a private matter be resolved quickly and fairly. It is very disappointing that Teagan's abiliy to perform is on hold, and I wish her the very best during this period.
With respect to MM's post, I don't blame Teagan for using her leverage, including rallying her fans, in order to obtain a settlement of this contract dispute on terms favorable to her, just as DP is utilizing the services of its corporate lawyers to obtain either performance of the contract or settlement terms favorable to their corporate interest. I make no pretense of objectivity, as I enjoy watching Teagan's performances, while DP and its corporate personnel stir nothing within me.
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Posted - Jan 20 2008 : 1:06PM
+2. I notice a lot more abuse toward arisystematic from these people then from him. I side with Teagan and Tyler here on both issues. Shaila
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Posted - Jan 20 2008 : 1:33PM
ShaDaBitch/Arin, I'm not stupid. Posting from multiple accounts is not allowed. You never know when to lay low even when you're expressly told to lay low.
Does Teagan own her name? remember famous amos cookies? The founder, Wally amos. does not own that company. They wont let wally amos use his name on his own cookies. those fucking assholes. BOYCOTT FAMOUS AMOS COOKIES!! thats what I say. Former wrestler Sable: She did playboy magazine ten years ago: vince mcmahon wanted to sue playboy for using the name sable. what a fucking bunch of bullshit. Sable was not using the name sable to sell a product. its just a fucking word. its her own life history. she used to be sable. she cant be referred to as the woman who used to be sable? Fucking holy shit. its like telling christopher reeves he cant call himself the man who used to play superman. These fucking assholes with their copyright assertions: they dont have a fucking clue!!!!!!!!!!
this brings up a good point. Providing this is what the brouhaha is about but so far seems speculative in this thread,... in this second contract signing Teagan, Tyler, Lawyers, could have fashioned a clause with DP where Teagan can 'moonlight' for her self and herself only. That is shoot her internet stuff in conjunction to shoot the scenes for DP. Anything shot outside of her own productions or DP's is BREAKING the contract. You see! Nevertheless it is a rarity that a company(no matter the business) would go against their better interests in providing such a generous clause, but believe me weirder contracts have been made in the past. Just my . Very interesting reading this thread.
Wally Amos trademarked the name Famous Amos. He then sold the company, which included the name. Without the name, the company wouldn't have been worth what he was paid for it. Nobody stole his name. He sold it.
I love Teagan, but these are all good points and looks like this could be the scenerio. Shit, if I decide to change my phone company, I get walloped by Verizon for breaking their contract!
Sable was not always known as Sable. Sable was a character made famous by the WWF. Just like the Rock was a character played by Dwayne Johnson. The WWF thus owned the rights to that name and character. You don't think the name Sable (that everyone knew at the time) would sell more magazines and products than a name that nobody knew (like Rena Mero) would? Of course it would. Thus if the WWF wasn't getting a cut of the profits from the use of their character, they had a right to deny use of it. This has nothing to do with the topic at hand, but I'm just explaining. Copyright protects people from profiting off someone elses product. And for the record Im not condoning how the WWF/WWE does business either. Edited by - xxaru on 1/20/2008 4:29:25 PM
digressing from the topic just a bit. Dwayne Johnson is still using the moniker 'The Rock' in some ventures namely movies. Sometimes it's the 'The Rock Dwayne Johnson' what have you. He doesn't wrestle full time anymore but shows up at WWE specials such as Wrestlemania. So he's either still affiliated with the WWE in some way(therefore still using 'The Rock') or he somehow acquired ownership of the name. I haven't been able to uncover information on this.
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Posted - Jan 20 2008 : 5:19PM
benderset, I have already warned you via email. You either didn't receive the email or you're trying to get deactivated. Either way if you continue your account will be deactivated.
It's my understanding that he went to Vince McMahon and got him to hand over ownership of the name to him. Either that or Vince just granted him permission to use the name and the WWE still retains ownership. Not sure which one it is.
I agree with Christian, but didn't want to clog things even more by quoting his entire post. Point is, I can understand her not being happy, but we sleep in the beds we've made. Is there any chance that hubby can get a job and help support his family? I think the following quote in a roundabout way might explain some of the problem here:
Christian, you need to put this one alongside Taryn Thomas in your blog.
nice to see this place going so AWOL on my birthday, lol. this thread has it all, finger pointing, snubs, insults, rumors, backhanded compliments, and even de-activation. on a serious tip, I hope it smooths out for Teagan, she was always a real sweetheart back in her early gonzo days. I'll tip one back for you in good spirits ms.Presley! lates, Von S.
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Posted - Jan 20 2008 : 7:30PM
oh god, christian is putting his two sense in now..... maybe he will blog this up on his men on men site
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Posted - Jan 20 2008 : 7:34PM
EDIT: ^^^ Do you mean cents not sense? Just my (two cents). Edited by - conquistador on 1/20/2008 7:36:57 PM
Hey JulesJordan gonzo fan, Unless you want to follow Arin to deactivated status, it would be a good ideas to cut the repeated bullshit with Christian. You should probably consider this a warning, OK? Use some common cents (sic). Edited by - Bill on 1/20/2008 7:43:55 PM
Why are you going to deactivate someone who just stated a fact about what someone does who hasn't already yelled it from the rooftops in the past??..Oh boy xox Teagan http://teaganraw.com Edited by - TeaganPresley on 1/20/2008 7:51:50 PM