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| von_swine Member Dominance & Persecution. 919 Posts 1/04 | p.s.; and NO disregard to Sheena and AJ, but they are no where near the performers that Bobbi and Dana were at the time of making Insatiable Voyage. there's an outside chance they can attain that level, but Bobbi and Dana are 2 of the best XXX performers of ALL-TIME,(American OR Euro)..I would be hard-pressed to think of casting 2 starlets that I can remotely trust to pull off repeated scenes like they did w/out a single hitch. nowadays theres no consistent hard gonzo being shot so even the top-tier performers dont do anal and DP like they did from 01-07,..the landscape is totally different and it shows now in the talent pool as well. - V.S. Edited by - von_swine on 6/17/2013 9:22:50 PM |
| Leyden Senior Member The people have spoken. I'm a nitpicking dick. Woo! 8751 Posts 1/04 | |
| FortKnox Member Less is more 11 Posts 1/13 | |
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| jeffandersonn Deactivated User 1605 Posts 3/13 | SO a good site with very good product like all mike john/tim von movies i'm sure it will work. i can guarantee my subscription from now till my death thanks Tim for your partecipation on this forum |
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| PornStarNamedBuckNaked All-Star Member Sometimes life is goofier than a monkey on ether 12073 Posts 7/10 | |
| KellyShibari New Member 3 Posts 3/10 |
Exactly. I'd LOVE to know how much of "Mr Von Swine"'s porn (or anyone's, actually) this dude has actually PURCHASED. Swine knows the business BECAUSE he's been around as long as he has, and has worked with the companies that he HAS worked with. He's not some newbie (like FortKnox) that thinks an account at ADT and 5 posts since 1/2013 makes him the expert on all things porno Swine is correct in saying that the tube sites are what's killing porno for the producers. It's already killed off quite a large number of companies already. And having to use tube sites and other social media to drive traffic to what's left is an UNFORTUNATE result of that. Sure - Swine uses tube site marketing to drive traffic to his Chubold projects. But he spends a much larger part of his time telling tube sites to take down pirated content uploaded by idiot pirates without anyone's permission.
Swine's posts on the Mike John blog are to DRIVE TRAFFIC to the Mike John projects, that he is an integral part of. Not his personal projects. If you don't see THAT, then you obviously haven't read the blog, so your opinion about it is....
Sorry dudes for jumping on this thread, but "fans" like this really bother me - I get this all the time as well. Some "fan" who probably never pays for anything decides to dole out his "wisdom" to established porn people as if they have the cure-all....and then don't bother to offer any suggestions of any merit. Just a complaining, santimonious lurker who cares nothing for the legacy of people who have been in the industry for years to make the kind of porn that people enjoy. Listen - FortKnox - go peddle your pretentious know-it-all attitude elsewhere. There are enough die-hard fans of certain products (like Tim and Mike's work) that agree that your empty opinions are neither helpful nor needed. And go BUY some porn. SUPPORT your producers! |
| FortKnox Member Less is more 11 Posts 1/13 | |
| von_swine Member Dominance & Persecution. 919 Posts 1/04 | FortKnox wrote: [/quote] Mr Von Swine badgers the tubes on a regular basis but then in the end goes and does it himself [/quote] ok, I'll make this as concise as possible about the tubesites, and why I'm 'using' them,.lol.. tubesites are a real problem because in order to host YOUR own content w/links or watermarks, they want a percentage, affiliate agreement, or a direct payout/hiring of one of THEIR affiliate wemasters. case in point; xtube. I had about 14-15 clips/trailers there and in just over a year those combined for over 1.5 million views. now, the traffic/revenue to my clipstore/chubold sales was minimal as it garnered no more than 10-15 direct sales in ANY month after posting a trailer there. yet, xtube informed me back in feb that I was spamming THEIR site and advertising unfairly by simply putting IN TEXT at the end of my trailers where they could be purchased. I didnt even use active links, just a 'hey, you can buy these here' approach to keep it under the radar. still, after all of those views/hits, they deduced it was better to bounce me, rather than host me so they pulled them down,..whatevs. now w/xhamster; they have NO problem w/whatever I post, but unfortunately, I find tons of scenes from me & Mike that are poached all over that site. I tried for a week to do the DMCA thing and take some down and,..it's like picking fleas off of a St.Bernard,..you cant do it! there's not enough hours in the day. so, I use xhamster because I can, and recently put 3 new trailers up over a 4 day period and saw my clip store rack up 5 sales,...WOW!!..lol. at this point I'm just putting them up to share what I can w/the 'fat admirers' out there. I appreciate you trying to motivate me to find a new way to make $$$ off of what I do for both me and for Mike, but what none of you can see from your side is this; people who now have the $$$ dont want an established guy behind the camera, they want someone who's desperate for the juice and energy that making XXX brings and are willing to work for a low salary. they hand em a company owned 5d-mark III camera, show them how to use it and send them off to make 'content' for their site. and yes, maybe I could start something 'simple' on my own, but I kind of already have, and yet still have to pull down full time for Mike all the while. where's the time? I've sent off a batch of scenes to be chopped that will comprise 2 volumes of Swiney's Pro-Am Pigpen dvd's and will test the waters for distro, as well as selling signed/numbered copies(limited batches of course!), to core/loyal fans and see where that takes me. I'm not expecting much, but am hoping for some momentum to build on. I've mentioned before that Mike has given me his blessing to use any and all pov scenes I've done for him as I wish, which could really help jumpstart the re-birth of Swine's POV as a blend of old-new content until I have enough $$$ to make all of the scenes new for the release. keep your dirty fingers crossed and some of this might happen,..and hopefully all of it eventually. apologies for my failed attempt to keep this short, but I do feel that there's nowhere NEAR the fan interaction between anyone anymore (in an honest exchange) and that those of XXX have withdrawn completely for fear of saying they're not really doing all that well like they were 6-7 years ago. but thats showbiz. deal with it. we dont have the $$$ you think we do and never really did. at least Mike was smart and invested outside of porno and so far that's working out for him, albeit tons of work that he didn't see coming that he's had to handle all himself. myself, I've never made any $$$ here to invest in anything more than imported beers and 'whale cam' scenes, which is fine, but through my tenure in XXX, I've prolly made less $$$ than ALL of my contemporaries that are still around(or not!) from the 02'03' era. everywhere I shot, I always pulled in the smallest checks, but big deal, that's all ancient history now, and nobody cares, lol. thanx again to ANY and ALL of you that have been fans of mine, I super appreciate it and will do my best to keep you in the 'know' of what I know moving forward. now go buy a bunch of my Pigpen clips at chubold!.. lates, Von S. |
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| von_swine Member Dominance & Persecution. 919 Posts 1/04 |
report the clip as a DMCA infringement, then provide links to the actual movie it is from at the jjv/Mike John director library page and let them know that since the clip is NOT watermarked w/ANY web address that leads back to us,(i.e.; jjv.com, mikejohnvip, jizzmouthwash, etc.) that it is then being hosted w/out permission/illegally. this way xhamster has a legitimate link to where the content originates form and cannot be disputed. however, since you (the fan) cannot prove that you actually are part of the production staff like Mike and myself, they might not heed your requests as it is NOT your product nor are you a hired agent to be handling such matters. :( sad panda..lol. this is all very time consuming as this has to be done for each clip/infringement individually until a better system can be found, but I dont have the time, or maybe even the smarts to come up w/one,..lol. now, please do NOT feel obligated in any way, shape, or form to do any of this on our behalf, as I'd hate to make anyone feel that it's their duty to pull OUR clips down, and/or waste their time w/unfruitful requests. y'all know I love you guys for all of the support/feedback and dont need any of you going any extra miles further than the ones you already are! thanx again, Von S. |
| ultimate_sperminator Deactivated User 837 Posts 12/12 | ok swine i checked that - my example is the site xvideos. imo the only problem is the validition of an official owner e-mail which i can´t. But wouldn´t it be possible to use julesjordanvideo@gmail.com? For sure Jules or whoever has the responsibillity for that e-mail account would have to confirm the requests as statet on xvideos, but I think the time consuming parts are the linking to the orignial sites (julesjordanvideo.com... |
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| von_swine Member Dominance & Persecution. 919 Posts 1/04 | NCDA# 13,.. really? |
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thanx for the fanfare guys, will keep you all posted moving forward. lates, Von S. |
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| danc23 Member 636 Posts 3/08 | Can I suggest that you find girls who don't mind swallowing a number of loads at once, not just one after another? It kind of defeats the purpose, IMHO. I'd love to see Veronica Avluv & Riley Reid in NCDA 13 |
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| rhodium Member A cracked polystyrene man 183 Posts 6/11 |
It's not a DVD world anymore. I spend probably $1000 a year on porn and I haven't bought a DVD in at least 5 years. And I don't use the tube sites because I believe in supporting the businesses I appreciate. I just want to download a scene and some supporting pictures and be done with it. But you and Mike don't make that available for me, so consequently you've got very little (if any) of my cash headed your way this past year. And not because you've got a bad product - Sperm Receptacles 6 looked good but what if I only wanted one scene? It's not an album world, either. People want the single now. If you have a place where your DVDs get aggregated, when you've got 3 or 4 scenes they want, they'll throw down on a $30 membership. I used to check for updates on mikejohnvip.com (pornstarnetwork.com), but there hasn't been anything in over a year, so you're simply off the map. You need to innovate to survive and the ones that do it well are the ones making all the money. Yes, there's unprecedented levels of piracy and theft. But there's also a global marketplace, instant distribution, and more porn consumers than ever. Frankly, if you're not playing the game right, it's on you. Need new ideas? How about crowd-sourcing a movie. All people do around here is chirp about which actress they want doing what with however many people inside her. Let them put their money where their mouth is, and pledge you the money up front. If you reach the designated threshold, maybe they get the movie or a signed pic. Maybe the idea won't get all the way there- but at least you'll know up front, before any money actually gets spent. Literally, can't lose. Tired of piracy? Stop selling DVDs altogether. The format was hacked so, so long ago, and that's how all your content is getting uploaded to where it shouldn't be. No downloads, either. You setup a membership site, offer a secure stream only, and for a month, people get to pick 4 scenes. However, people want that ownership, so you let them stream them for life. Throw up some slutty pictures and it's gold. In any event, I wish you the best of luck. I went on too long so in closing I just want to say that Sarah Shevon is the best person on the planet. And surely no one can argue with that. ;) |
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| von_swine Member Dominance & Persecution. 919 Posts 1/04 | ^^ Rhodium, dont sweat the long post, it only shows a genuine interest in whats happening w/Mike John Prod & myself so it's totally appreciated. I tend to writ in a concise fashion so apologies if I jump thru the topics/angels too briefly... with the dvd format in decline the 1st thing EVERYONE says is, 'go to the internet'.. sure thing, Mike tried that w/Braincash and it didnt work, henceforth no more updates in a couple of years. if that partnership was even remotely fruitful, we'd still be sending them hard drives w/movies on them. now, the vast majority, if not all of what we sent them to upload was in SD and that can have an effect on signups w/everyone looking for the HD tag nowadays. but we didnt back up the library on split HD settings after the down conversion until just about 14-18 months ago. so what, are we supposed to spend the money to have ALL of that footage converted and hope it makes a difference on a network that's hemorrhaging faster than we are? absolutely not.which birngs me to the next point,... resources: those are in VERY limited supply, and definitely not enough to start our own streaming/vod network. maybe we're foolish for not entertaining offers from webmasters or other affiliates, but that's a side of the game that Mike & I have ZERO experience in, and until we're more prepared to deal w/those cats I feel it's batter we hold our cards (& content) close to the vest. last thing we'd want to do is roll around w/our nose wide open and have our content dealt 'backdoor' style thru the interwebs furthuring the de-value of a revered library. (yes, we have lawyers to look over contracts, etc,..but they need to be paid too.) man power: Mike & I are also a 2 man crew. thats it. now it's a one man crew as Mike tends to his other investment outside of xxx which cannot be ignored, and must be handled by him exclusively, leaving me to do the same for Mike John Prod for the past 18-20 months. so where is all of this extra time needed to handle/juggle a possibly important extra burden of content distro, updates, editing, concepts, etc. going to come from? look, I dont mind working hard or even my fat ass off, but over extension leads to mistakes, bad decisions & costly errors for which there's NO room for. yes, there should be PLENTY of avenues for Mike's content to flourish online, I'm just not the guy to broker that deal, and he cant do it if he's not around. dvd value: say what you want, but Mike's library is the silver lining that helps keep it all going. JJV still commands a great price per unit and collects very steadily. now, the fans are and aren't the ones 'paying' for the dvd's. we get a lot of action because rentals and stores having theatre booths to stock for the public strokers. it's a shame people dont prefer the 'LP" version of XXX like they used to, but for reasons already stated and too many others I'd rather not add to this post, that's all they're gonna get from Mike & Swiney until something changes. apologies for painting a somewhat dim picture here, but what's the point in sugar-coating any of this? I'm only still in XXX because of Mike and vice-versa. we're a team and will do whatever it takes to keep each other going and in the game til the bitter end. now in the meantime I'll do my best to keep making movies that honor Mike's style w/out biting it, as he and I are two very different shooters, which I'm sure some of you have noticed over the past year or two as mor and more of scemes lensed by yours truly have made their way into our finished product. thanx again to any and ALL fans who keep supporting us, if even only through the blog & message boards because that still helps too! thanx gang,..ttyl. lates, Von S. 'It's all smoooth sailing, from here on out.' -QOTSA |
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