Torrent site link to 21sextury

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G_O_R_T_E_C_H Member 134 Posts 4/11	Posted - Jan 1 2013 : 10:55AM Please dont kill the messenger. I sincerely believe that if you really do profit from porn you will want to know this. There is a HUGE torrent site out there. Torrent sites are very negatively viewed on this forum. But if a thief were to try and use this HUGE and highly trafficed torrent site. Surprise Surprise. That thief would be directed in an alternate window to 21sextury home page. It is that simple. This seems OBSERD to me. It is obserd that there would be this link available without 21sextury being aware of this link. It has been like this for at least a year. 21sextury is playing the invisible elephant in the room. Something stinks about this. I hear preaching about theft in industry. But no one seems to complain or point out this link. And I bet I get critisize for pointing this out. Cuz it is fishy and doesnt want to be discovered 4 some reason. [Link]
LCF All-Star Member Non Prevalebunt! 10364 Posts 1/05	Posted - Jan 1 2013 : 11:50AM ^ actually 21st century is no more than a mouse, the elephant is Manwin , who OWNS or controls many tubesites Edited by - LCF on 1/1/2013 11:51:24 AM [Link]
G_O_R_T_E_C_H Member 134 Posts 4/11	Posted - Jan 1 2013 : 12:19PM LCF that is interesting. Manwin seems to have a hand in just about everything including ZZ. So the blame goes on MANWIN. Is MANWIN untouchable or something? Why do porn personnel keep feeding this untouchable entity? [Link]
WideAngle Senior Member GAMBO192 1367 Posts 9/11	Posted - Jan 1 2013 : 12:20PM So you are saying that 21sextury pays to get advertisements on that torrent site? [Link]
G_O_R_T_E_C_H Member 134 Posts 4/11	Posted - Jan 1 2013 : 12:31PM Gambo192 wrote: So you are saying that 21sextury pays to get advertisements on that torrent site? Click to expand If a person clicked on anything on the torrent site. That would open up a new window. That new window is the home page of 21st sextury. I dont know who gets paid. How would I know that? I wouldnt. All I can say is that it looks like a parasite on 21sextury. Therefore it would theoreticly be a parasite pornstar profits. [Link]

LCF All-Star Member Non Prevalebunt! 10364 Posts 1/05	Posted - Jan 1 2013 : 3:45PM G_O_R_T_E_C_H wrote: LCF that is interesting. Manwin seems to have a hand in just about everything including ZZ. So the blame goes on MANWIN. Is MANWIN untouchable or something? Why do porn personnel keep feeding this untouchable entity? Click to expand Why? they own part of jules Jordan, Brazzers , Digital Playground , Mofos, Reality king and many other sites basically more than half of what is produced is owned by them They are said to control the FSC , they own one of the two test facilities of the industry. as for 21st century I'm not sure they actually pay that site , more likely they pay an agency who catch those interested in porn and feed them with commercials according to his tastes , you know your Windows Media Player knows exactly all of what you watch at , same for Adobe and your flash or shockwave clips , also they may get informations from the cookies you store. So maybe it's an agency who throws you those commercials rather than 21st century Edited by - LCF on 1/1/2013 3:46:11 PM [Link]
killbillvol69 All-Star Member ^Lucy Pinder 18634 Posts 4/08	Posted - Jan 1 2013 : 5:29PM LCF raises a good point. 21sextury may not know where their ads are being posted. Manwin, on the other hand, most definitely knows that they are responsible for a great amount of piracy. [Link]
G_O_R_T_E_C_H Member 134 Posts 4/11	Posted - Jan 2 2013 : 10:23AM So porn personnel have this information about MANWIN owning SO SO much. Yet they keep working for these same companies. Then they complain about thievery. This is laughable. You know what else I find laughable is this. 21st sextury cant find the link between them and the largest supplier of free porn I have ever seen. I think MANWIN is the porn industries 'Osama bin Laden'. An imaginary boogy-man. Something very strange is going on. [Link]
LCF All-Star Member Non Prevalebunt! 10364 Posts 1/05	Posted - Jan 2 2013 : 5:38PM ^ that "imaginary boogey man" bought Digital Playground for just 6 million dollars , it was almost bankrupt due too piracy , they had some of the most expensive productions out there (Pirates for example) this kind of movies need high sell rates just to cover the expenses, piracy destroyed their market more than that of others . See, manwin gets money from piracy thanks to subscriptions and ads , this destroys the market for competitors , then they buy entire companies at an incredibly cheap price. also since they own this many companies and sites , either you are with them or stay at home , you can't work they are almost the only guys hiring people out there Edited by - LCF on 1/2/2013 5:39:18 PM [Link]
Geri Member 329 Posts 7/12	Posted - Jan 3 2013 : 10:13AM Fabian Thylmann, the owner of Manwin, was arrested in Belgium last month and extradited to Germany on charges of Tax Evasion. Apparently his porn empire only generates around 97million dollars a year in profit. If that's really the case then, his business model has severely damaged the profitability of the adult entertainment industry. [Link]
G_O_R_T_E_C_H Member 134 Posts 4/11	Posted - Jan 3 2013 : 11:12AM So Im supposed to believe: Fabians business model is destroying a billion (guessing) dollar a year industry. And doesnt get taken out mysteriosly? That everyone in the industry has to keep feeding this mans business model. Because MANWIN has such a grip on everything porn. And doesnt get taken out mysteriosly? So funny. I could get a decent looking hooker to do ANYTHING for 500.00. In the Phillipines I could get that down to 100.00. A camera costs about what 2000.00? A domain name and internet band width costs what 1000.00 a year? Throw in a couple outfits for the ladies for 3000.00 a year. I could easily build a loyal fan base from there. Just by not doing the stupid shit that I see everyone in the industry doing. Take porn back to what it was originally intended without all these stupid niches and agendas. And I know for sure that I would be suing the fuck out of anyone I caught pirating my shit. As a matter of fact I would welcome them to try. My lawyer friend tells me that this would be a dream come true 4 us. It doesnt make sense to me. At all. [Link]
LCF All-Star Member Non Prevalebunt! 10364 Posts 1/05	Posted - Jan 3 2013 : 1:39PM ^ You were the one who wanted us to believe that some ads of 21sextury are ruining the industry , weren't you? and yet you can't believe that someone who does w hundreds of times the same is not Edited by - LCF on 1/3/2013 1:40:06 PM [Link]
G_O_R_T_E_C_H Member 134 Posts 4/11	Posted - Jan 5 2013 : 9:10AM ^Please get it straight. Read the original post slower and retain the meaning. There is a definite link between 21st sextury and one of the largest torrent sites on this planet. The link takes you from the torrent site directly to 21st sexturys HOME PAGE. Do I really have to be any more clear than that? I would love to show everyone how it is linked. To show concrete proof of how the porn industry is throwing porn personnel profit out the back door. But by doing that I would probably be kicked off the forum for 'promoting' theft. Many on this forum would love to kill the messanger. This link is proof of a hole that effects pornstar profits . And nobody even seems to bring up the hole. That makes me think there is a way bigger agenda than profit. [Link]
LCF All-Star Member Non Prevalebunt! 10364 Posts 1/05	Posted - Jan 5 2013 : 9:47AM ^ Look I tried to explain it to you , how dumb do you think 21sextury is? what tis he point of advertising on a torrent site? do you think they want to remind to the thieves what good they have to be taken for free? Of course not. I said that VERY LIKELY 21sextury has a contract with an advertising agency who puts banners on many sites and maybe they are those putting in there the ads. Or them likely that site is just recorded as a pornsite , you have a cooie who labeled your computer as owned by someone interested in porn and whenever you go to a pornsite you'll be reached by some ads which obviously links you to 21sextury manwin on the other hand owns tubesites Try to remove all of the cookies stored by your PC and go to that torrent site again and see if the same ads show up Edited by - LCF on 1/5/2013 9:48:28 AM [Link]
pat362 Senior Member 10083 Posts 3/10	Posted - Jan 5 2013 : 10:28AM So funny. I could get a decent looking hooker to do ANYTHING for 500.00. In the Phillipines I could get that down to 100.00. A camera costs about what 2000.00? A domain name and internet band width costs what 1000.00 a year? Throw in a couple outfits for the ladies for 3000.00 a year. And I know for sure that I would be suing the fuck out of anyone I caught pirating my shit. As a matter of fact I would welcome them to try. My lawyer friend tells me that this would be a dream come true 4 us. Click to expand Where to start with all of your statements? 1-Getting a hooker to have sex with you is not the same thing as getting her to have sex and film it. You do know that there's a huge difference right? If she appears on film with you then she must be paid for the release of the film and not for the sex part. Otherwise both of you can face prosecution for prostitution. Since you are now a porn producer than you have to follow the 2257 regulation so you'll need proof of age of your hooker/performer and that may be a hard thing to get since she is a hooker and doesn't want thayt kind of information available to any guy with a dick. 2-You might be able to get a hooker to do anything for 500$ but can you get many of them to do that? You do know that one hooker having sex with you is only one scene and you need at least 30 or plus to start a website otherwise people won't want to join your site. 3-That means hiring 30 (hopefully different) hookers at 500$ a scene so you have now invested 15000$ for the performer, 2000$ for the camera, let's say 1000$ for lighting equipment and what not, 1000$ for outfits for the ladies, 1000$ for a domain name and server time and last but most important of all. You need a credit card processor to take care of the money aspect. No clue how much they charge but let's say they take 10% of the money you make from each paid subscription. 4-You have now invested 20000$ and you don't have one member yet. You still have to shoot at least one scene per week regardless because anything less and your site will never make it off the ground. That means a minimum of 2000$ per month for just the hookers and unless you are hiring the same ones that shot those first 30 scenes than that means looking for new talent. Where to find those new hookers that must grow on trees in your corner of the world? Unless your friendly with a bunch of pimps than you have to advertise in the papers and that cost money. 5-Let's say for argument sake that all of the above has happened and your site was moderately popular with a bunch of people and you have about 1500 paid members. Your join price is a decent amount of 20$ per monthly membership so that means a gross profit of 30000$. You deduct 3000$ for your cc processor so you are left with 27000$. To which you deduct the original investment of 20000$ and you now have 10000 but since you have to film more scenes so deduct another 2000$ for the girls and your net profit is 8000$. 6-Now the bad news start. You discover that one or more of of your members was nice enough to upload your entire library to a tube site and/or torrent site so that anyone can view your videos for free meaning that these people are never going to join your site. It gets worse because those nice tube and torrent sites have a lot more traffic than you can ever hope to match so the effect on your site is going to be felt by the second month and by the third you are already in deep shit with few payng members and no prospect of getting more. 7-Ah but you have a friend lawyer ready and willing to sue those tube and torrent sites. Of course he's willing to do this for nothing because we all know that lawyers like to work for free....Not. I expect that any lawyer willing to do this will want to gwet paid. If not on a huge part of the settlement than at some point he will ask for money upfront and a retainer. Let's ay he's generous and he only charges you 150$ an hour. I don't suspect that you're bill will be less than 15000$ a month in lawyers fee. 8-Of course your lawyer friend is a genius who has a foolproof way of finding out who owns those tube and torret sites and knows how to get them to justice....But sadly he is neitehr a genius nor does he know of a way to get these people to justice. if it was possible than it would have gotten done years ago by far more inteligent people than you and I. The sad reality is that he will send a request to habe the illegal content removed from those tube and torrent site and which the webmaster will be more than happy to do for about 5 minutes before it's back on those sites. If you think my little scenario is incorrect then you clearly haven't been paying attention to what's been happening in the industry for the last few years. If major studios can't beat them than what makes you think you can do any better? P.S: I'd also like to add that a hooker may fuck your for money but that doesn't mean that it will be worth watching and let alone pay to watch. [Link]

G_O_R_T_E_C_H Member 134 Posts 4/11	Posted - Jan 6 2013 : 9:26AM Both of these latest comments are extremely appreciated. I suspect it will take a little time for me to answer them. As these are very good points. Thank you. [Link]
G_O_R_T_E_C_H Member 134 Posts 4/11	Posted - Jan 8 2013 : 8:37AM What I get from this discussion is this: Torrent sites can not be stopped legally or by means of any kind. That MANWIN is more powerful than an entire worldwide industry. And all the mafia sits back helpless. Torrent sites parasite the industry and kill off anything that isnt already '2 big 2 fail'. Just like the banking system. Torrent sites know where you have been by eating your cookies. I should never consider competing with the establishment because the game is rigged. And I would need an endless flow of money to keep the flow going. Is this a fair conclusion? [Link]
Flash Golden Age Classic 11018 Posts 5/01	Posted - Jan 8 2013 : 10:22AM No. The mafia is out of adult films. Torrent sites do parasite the industry. They don't kill off anything that's two big to fail. And at this point I wouldn't even say Manwin is too big to fail. While you could probably not create an empire the size of one like Manwin, I think that if you had enough start up capital and something that was truly unique in some way you could do alright. I'm not talking rich but probably you could make enough to avoid starving. The thing is though that your recording a bunch of prostitutes does not justify unique. You will actually need to provide something that brings people back. [Link]
Zinister Member 23 Posts 1/13	Posted - Jan 8 2013 : 4:20PM Where to start with all of your statements? 1-Getting a hooker to have sex with you is not the same thing as getting her to have sex and film it. You do know that there's a huge difference right? If she appears on film with you then she must be paid for the release of the film and not for the sex part. Otherwise both of you can face prosecution for prostitution. Since you are now a porn producer than you have to follow the 2257 regulation so you'll need proof of age of your hooker/performer and that may be a hard thing to get since she is a hooker and doesn't want thayt kind of information available to any guy with a dick. 2-You might be able to get a hooker to do anything for 500$ but can you get many of them to do that? You do know that one hooker having sex with you is only one scene and you need at least 30 or plus to start a website otherwise people won't want to join your site. 3-That means hiring 30 (hopefully different) hookers at 500$ a scene so you have now invested 15000$ for the performer, 2000$ for the camera, let's say 1000$ for lighting equipment and what not, 1000$ for outfits for the ladies, 1000$ for a domain name and server time and last but most important of all. You need a credit card processor to take care of the money aspect. No clue how much they charge but let's say they take 10% of the money you make from each paid subscription. 4-You have now invested 20000$ and you don't have one member yet. You still have to shoot at least one scene per week regardless because anything less and your site will never make it off the ground. That means a minimum of 2000$ per month for just the hookers and unless you are hiring the same ones that shot those first 30 scenes than that means looking for new talent. Where to find those new hookers that must grow on trees in your corner of the world? Unless your friendly with a bunch of pimps than you have to advertise in the papers and that cost money. 5-Let's say for argument sake that all of the above has happened and your site was moderately popular with a bunch of people and you have about 1500 paid members. Your join price is a decent amount of 20$ per monthly membership so that means a gross profit of 30000$. You deduct 3000$ for your cc processor so you are left with 27000$. To which you deduct the original investment of 20000$ and you now have 10000 but since you have to film more scenes so deduct another 2000$ for the girls and your net profit is 8000$. 6-Now the bad news start. You discover that one or more of of your members was nice enough to upload your entire library to a tube site and/or torrent site so that anyone can view your videos for free meaning that these people are never going to join your site. It gets worse because those nice tube and torrent sites have a lot more traffic than you can ever hope to match so the effect on your site is going to be felt by the second month and by the third you are already in deep shit with few payng members and no prospect of getting more. 7-Ah but you have a friend lawyer ready and willing to sue those tube and torrent sites. Of course he's willing to do this for nothing because we all know that lawyers like to work for free....Not. I expect that any lawyer willing to do this will want to gwet paid. If not on a huge part of the settlement than at some point he will ask for money upfront and a retainer. Let's ay he's generous and he only charges you 150$ an hour. I don't suspect that you're bill will be less than 15000$ a month in lawyers fee. 8-Of course your lawyer friend is a genius who has a foolproof way of finding out who owns those tube and torret sites and knows how to get them to justice....But sadly he is neitehr a genius nor does he know of a way to get these people to justice. if it was possible than it would have gotten done years ago by far more inteligent people than you and I. The sad reality is that he will send a request to habe the illegal content removed from those tube and torrent site and which the webmaster will be more than happy to do for about 5 minutes before it's back on those sites. If you think my little scenario is incorrect then you clearly haven't been paying attention to what's been happening in the industry for the last few years. If major studios can't beat them than what makes you think you can do any better? P.S: I'd also like to add that a hooker may fuck your for money but that doesn't mean that it will be worth watching and let alone pay to watch. Click to expand Wow, thanks for this information. Also, I'm just a user, I know about the different companies/sites, performers, styles or genres of porn and etc. All what a porn fan would know, but all that info regarding Manwin, FSC and etc. What's all that? I would like to know more about the other aspect of Porn World. Thanks. [Link]
pat362 Senior Member 10083 Posts 3/10	Posted - Jan 8 2013 : 9:21PM Flash wrote: No. While you could probably not create an empire the size of one like Manwin, I think that if you had enough start up capital and something that was truly unique in some way you could do alright. Click to expand Seeing the way BRazzer probably did it and the subsequent effect it had on the industry then it's not likely that anyone will be able to do it again. At least not any time soon. There are simply not enough sites/networks left for someone to buy and create a porn empire. There are certainly not enough porn studios still making movies that could help any enterprising person and those that are still active are probably too expensive to buy or simply not worth the price you would pay to aquire them. I think Manwin managed to do the industry in just a few years what the most radical religious groups couldn't hope to accomplish after trying for 40 years. P.S: I hope I'm wrong about that last one [Link]
killbillvol69 All-Star Member ^Lucy Pinder 18634 Posts 4/08	Posted - Jan 8 2013 : 10:36PM Zinister wrote: ...all that info regarding Manwin, FSC and etc. What's all that? I would like to know more about the other aspect of Porn World. Click to expand Much of the Manwin stuff can be found in these threads: Read this one first: great article about Brazzers and free online porn Then maybe this one (lots of repetition of information of course): Is Brazzers ripping off other studios? For info about Manwin and the FSC, and how they relate to STD testing practices, much can be found here: Performer testing (post-AIM) And then here: AVN Article About U.S. Syphilis Rumors This last thread is really long; I would search the pages for mentions of "Manwin" or "FSC" and then read from there. [Link]
Zinister Member 23 Posts 1/13	Posted - Jan 8 2013 : 11:16PM killbillvol69 wrote: Much of the Manwin stuff can be found in these threads: Read this one first: great article about Brazzers and free online porn Then maybe this one (lots of repetition of information of course): Is Brazzers ripping off other studios? For info about Manwin and the FSC, and how they relate to STD testing practices, much can be found here: Performer testing (post-AIM) And then here: AVN Article About U.S. Syphilis Rumors This last thread is really long; I would search the pages for mentions of "Manwin" or "FSC" and then read from there. Click to expand Thanks for the info. [Link]
LCF All-Star Member Non Prevalebunt! 10364 Posts 1/05	Posted - Jan 9 2013 : 5:25PM pat362 wrote: I think Manwin managed to do the industry in just a few years what the most radical religious groups couldn't hope to accomplish after trying for 40 years. P.S: I hope I'm wrong about that last one Click to expand You're not , going after Manwin and have it close would destroy the industry , whether it was too much attacking everybody and would obviously be an attack to people freedom it wouldn't appear as such if you just sue ONE for something he did wrong and to own tubesites and give up material for free is in a zone grey enough to allow something [Link]
pat362 Senior Member 10083 Posts 3/10	Posted - Jan 10 2013 : 9:37PM ^I would think that stopping one of the guilter Tube site owner from doing what they are doing would be a major boost to existing studios because they could stop worrying that their material would wind up on those tube sites. It would also force all the thieves currently using tube site for theit porn needs to finally pay for it like the rest of us do. [Link]
G_O_R_T_E_C_H Member 134 Posts 4/11	Posted - Jan 13 2013 : 10:32AM Flash wrote: No. The mafia is out of adult films. Torrent sites do parasite the industry. They don't kill off anything that's two big to fail. And at this point I wouldn't even say Manwin is too big to fail. Click to expand The mafia has gone corporate and run everything. Excuse me while I LMAO. To say the mafia is out of adult films is seriously flawed. They just changed the 'title' to corporation. Torrent sites are the greatest thing that ever happened to the surviving production companies. Observe the winners who are thriving. Observe the similarity between them. Manwin may fail but the porn establishment will get a new boogey-man to blame. Once again. Torrent sites allow only the established porn 'MONOPOLY' to thrive without any 'REAL' competition. [Link]

killbillvol69 All-Star Member ^Lucy Pinder 18634 Posts 4/08	Posted - Jan 13 2013 : 10:42AM G_O_R_T_E_C_H wrote: Torrent sites are the greatest thing that ever happened to the surviving production companies. Click to expand If this was true then the surviving companies wouldn't be losing money hand over fist. Everyone* is suffering due to torrents, tube sites and download sites. *Except Manwin, who owns the tube sites. [Link]
G_O_R_T_E_C_H Member 134 Posts 4/11	Posted - Jan 22 2013 : 11:11AM ^ Im pretty sure that the people at the top of the industry are not hurting at all. Not at all. As a matter of fact just take a look at the locations where porn is shot. Look at the sets. Look at the same people on the same sets. Then process that. Look at the material world that surrounds the same people on the same sets. 2 say they are not benefiting would be obserd. Who are the top producers? Are the sets and houses they dwell in getting slummy yet? It looks to me like they keep buying way better. Then you got enough unnecesary overhead such as 10 dudes to fuck 1 chick. 6 more to smack them and stick feet in the face. and 5 more to make obnoxiousness faces for the photo ops. Production companies and torrent sites are working together and killing off any chance of competitor. Its so obvious. If it is not a profit driven motive to keep going then why do they keep going?? Mind control for the population?? They are cashing in and keeping the power to themselves through torrent site partnerships. Very simple. [Link]
shalalin Senior Member 1734 Posts 11/07	Posted - Jan 22 2013 : 1:51PM ^ Umm, many of the upscale-looking sets are regular homes owned by civilians that get rented out for video productions. [Link]
LCF All-Star Member Non Prevalebunt! 10364 Posts 1/05	Posted - Jan 23 2013 : 6:15PM They are sets , some of them are rented to the film makers , is it possible that none of you noticed that they are very often the same even for very different companies? [Link]
G_O_R_T_E_C_H Member 134 Posts 4/11	Posted - Jan 25 2013 : 12:46PM ^ Yes I noticed that it is always the same people working together. Day after day. Year after year. On very expensive porn sets. The very expensive porn sets are shared by the same people year after year. They seem to not only survive but thrive. Always keeping that central hub alive. Thanks to business deals with torrent sites that exclude real competition. [Link]
LCF All-Star Member Non Prevalebunt! 10364 Posts 1/05	Posted - Jan 25 2013 : 1:47PM ^ you know nothing Jon Snow (citation) [Link]
killbillvol69 All-Star Member ^Lucy Pinder 18634 Posts 4/08	Posted - Jan 25 2013 : 6:09PM The sets are not expensive. In fact they are quite cheap. [Link]
G_O_R_T_E_C_H Member 134 Posts 4/11	Posted - Jan 26 2013 : 8:16AM It's still a monopoly. With torrent sites killing off all threat from competition. [Link]
killbillvol69 All-Star Member ^Lucy Pinder 18634 Posts 4/08	Posted - Jan 26 2013 : 11:22AM ^ Unless you're referring to Manwin taking over (which they have almost done, but not quite yet), then the word you should be using is oligopoly. I would agree with you there. But I don't think it's an oligopoly by choice or by design. It's a strange situation where, you're right, all competition from the big guys is being killed off, but not by those who are on top. Because the same things that have killed off the little folks, the torrents, tube sites and download sites, are biting a bug chunk out of the big guys too. The difference is that the big guys were able to survive a big chunk being bit out of their profits. Many of the larger porn companies have had to downsize, they've had to put out fewer titles, etc. but they're still fighting. The little guys didn't stand a chance. [Link]
G_O_R_T_E_C_H Member 134 Posts 4/11	Posted - Jan 31 2013 : 10:04AM ^ We can agree on the basics. I would also ask whether or not ADULTDVDTALK receives money from which companies? This would perhaps create bias and should be looked at 2. The difference is that I see MANWIN and all its creations as absolutely part of the plan. MANWIN is the boogey-man that allows the 'PORNOPOLY' to function efficient. What should make this painfully obvious is the lack of competition and the trends it is creating. The same people doing ever more similar things. Such as the ANAL POV CAMP. The DUNGEON TORTURE CAMP. The FOOT FETISH ONLY CAMP. etc. etc. etc. All of these are the old-school buds and up and coming buds that do exactly as they are told. Luckily for me, I have met cam girls online who get hard anal fucked by the real boyfriends. I get more variety than what is handed to us by the "PORNOPOLY'. It costs more but it is worth it. Otherwise I would be stuck watching another Jayden Lee 'ANAL POV CAMP' vid. Been there. Done that. Thanks for letting me post. [Link]

killbillvol69 All-Star Member ^Lucy Pinder 18634 Posts 4/08	Posted - Jan 31 2013 : 6:28PM Those ads you see at the top of the screen? They're what pays for ADT. Most of the porn DVD companies, big, medium and small, pay for ads here. I'm not sure whether one can say that ADT is therefore part of this "pornopoly" you speak of. [Link]
Flash Golden Age Classic 11018 Posts 5/01	Posted - Feb 2 2013 : 9:41AM To begin with, the people who post on ADT post their own thoughts. That includes moderators. So the more you continue this giant conspiracy theory that lumps all companies together the more ridiculous you sound. As to companies putting out similar content, yes like any other company out there they are going to try and get your money. If company A is doing well with this, why can't we, company B do a similar line and take some of that money. Same thing happens in the mainstream world. For instance, look at Volcano and Dante's Peak, both released in 1997 or Armageddon and Deep Impact, both from 1998. That list goes on as well. How about outside the movie making industry completely, how about Little Debbie's Chocolate Cupcakes and Hostess (Yes I know they are now closed) Cupcakes? The list goes on there as well. Or is this all part of the same conspiracy? [Link]
LCF All-Star Member Non Prevalebunt! 10364 Posts 1/05	Posted - Feb 2 2013 : 10:07AM ^ Could it be the Dentists Association? at least about Cupcakes companies [Link]
Shaun Member 8 Posts 2/13	Posted - Feb 2 2013 : 11:15AM LCF wrote: ^ Could it be the Dentists Association? at least about Cupcakes companies Click to expand LOL [Link]