I'm not sure where you are getting your info because Tushy has been getting the first anal of so many women over the last 5 years that it's hard to believe that they are having an issue to get a model to show up. Especially once Tushy has negotiated with her agent/agency and she has agreed to the terms.
Pierre has gotten the first anal of many newbies over the decades he's been producing porn but then again you have multiple European studios that have also gotten just as many newbies to do their first anal for them so I find it hard to single out Pierre has being the one to get them all. It's also important to point out that since Pierre no longer does business with Julsmodel that we may see less and less Eastern European newbies appear on Pierre site unless they are represented by another agency/agent or they go directly.
BRCC and to a lesser extent it's sister site ECG have often managed to get the first anal of many women but often those women are basically one and done so that you can't say that they were the first true anal of a porn performer because it was the first and only video those women shot. Some of the models who have appeared on BRCC and ECG do go one to have careers in porn but most simply fade away. I suspect that money is the key element for why those women choose to do a first anal with both sites and money should always be an important reason because you can only sell a first once.
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Posted - Jan 25 2020 : 9:51AM
yeah... says a LOT ...
1.how brillant Greg lansky's thinking and reframing can be !
2.he understand the psychology of human behavior and audiences that he could turn on !
3.Lansky knows how to escalate sexual tension... from Point A to Point B !
4.Lansky KNOWS how to hijack your fucking brain ! (Julia don't ... porn is not just about putting a dick somewhere...)
(No i'm not going to dissect his porn)
and Whitney Westgate's scene is the perfect example ! (like Anastasia Morna's scene or Christiana Cinn)
or the new one with Kenna James directed by Laurent Sky
Nice job Laurent !
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i'm crushed....
the best porn director in the industry is taking his retirement...
but i'm not surprised
the last time he directed anything was about 1 year ago...
I'm going to change his mind
he will be back... i'm sure he will be back soon !
but let's see the positive things of this
Now that he's gone, we have more to look forward to in the futur
Starting with his policy towards milf models or tattoo girls, ( Jessie Lee deserves a shot https://twitter.com/OMGitsJessieLee ) curvy girls.... etc... (and guess what ?? Julia Grandi does the same ...)
No one will believe me if I said the staff told me so, but it's logically not too hard to believe. VMG are not monsters. Even if the girl signs a contract, she's not obligated to do it if she really can't. Nobody is going to rip a girl's asshole open. And yes, they got many firsts, but that doesn't say how many they were not able to get.
Well, now that my collaboration with Julmodels ended on December 1. 2019 I can said the things straigh away!!! One of the major reasons why I stopped was the lack of new models provided by them in the two last years and the fight I have had with Julia because i fucked FIRST the ass of Lena Reif, Olivia Sin for instance in 2018 when they was supposed be be given to Tushy first but nobody else whaever they paid or try, was not able make it ( they got them only after few anal for me ). In 2019 I also have had the marvelous Stella Cardo which is still anal exclusive today and I was forbidden to put a hand on Jessica Portman last september for her first time on camera, but I did it, and then more conflict went up between us. Out of Liya Silver that I was stupid to refuse in may 2017 before she got all her tatoos because she asked 3500 euros and I'm not someone who like speak money before speak of sex, the great Jia Lissa and many others was coming to me with the interdiction to listen my words and try my anal secret. When I gave in 2016 the contact of Juliana to Greg Lansky, I asked Julia to never forget which way she got the chance to be the Vixen Europe director and always separate the concurrent aspect of the situation with the 10 years long friendship between us. It has been working good at the begining but step by step, I became just a way to advertise the Vixen/Tushy models before Julia can film their first anal. From that it was obvious I did not want continue take her models and prefer just stay a good friend getting the girls from other agencies but Julia refused and now doesn't want speak to me. It's sad about the personal side but on the professional aspect you must know all official agents in Europe got Russians from same scouts in Russia and Julmodels even at her best with me has never represent more than 30 % of my first anal business !!! The main European agency is Brillbabes who represent 70 % of my business actually and because I am someone taking care a lot of girls not been hurt, I got their models first and they always get the same girls as Julmodels ( excepted when they sign a contract like Liya Silver or Jia Lissa for instance ) To end up with this post, I'll like insist on the fact, maybe it's a luck I'm not based in L-A for the Vixen Media Group, because to refresh your memory Adria Rae, the Kendall sisters, Natalia Starr and various others as last year Mazzy Grace was the target for them but did their first anal with me for much much much less money they proposed to them ... I know lot of people like to pretend I am getting all for the moeny I put on the table because it's an easy way to excuse a failure, but for agencies like LAdirect models in USA or all europens ones can tell you I refuse to deal any money amount with them and they let me speak with girls first eyes in eyes because the comfort of a first time is more important in my opinion than just paid for sex. In my mind, just giving an amount to have a first anal is considering a girl like a bitch and reduce me to be the "client". I hate that ... that's why I could have got some famous name but given up when I understood all was based on "how much they can get paid". I work in porn to enjoy and see girl having orgasms. If I feel a girl time she will have sex with me will be looking at the ceiling, thinking about her money and when it ends, it makes me sick and I prefer to do nothing. Maybe it's the reason why people who support my work can see another type of porn in my videos ...
Hope this post will make all clear, I have a huge respect for my friend Greg Lansky who build this great label and whom I wish the best in his new life. I wanna said Laurent Sky is a 28 years long friend who started his career with me in France and who is in my opinion the most talented photographer and director in US porn industry. I hope Vixen Media Group will replace Greg by him, it should be the best choice they can do.
This is a million miles away from any evidence that she was booked for anal and then backed out. There was absolutely no suggestion in this tweet that her final scene would be anal.
^^^ This has much more of a ring of truth. I can well believe a pornstar turning up with the intention of doing an anal scene but then not being able to cope with it...especially if a first anal scene. For me that is a big leap away from suggesting they just change their minds, don't turn up or are unprofessional in their preparation as your earlier post implied.
I listed different reasons for a girl backing out of an anal scene, both from my experience, and speaking to the staff of VMG. I never said girls don't turn up at all, but now that you've mentioned it, it has happened, and there's nothing wrong with that. Girls change their minds sometimes, and you roll with it.
Whether a girl calls you up 30 minutes before and says, "I'm not going to do it" or during the scene, tells you it isn't comfortable, you are not focused on her as a problem. Your task is to get a scene done, so you are looking for solutions, whether it be to shoot something else with her, or find another girl. There's no time to dwell. They are people. It happens. But my original point was that this happens even to VMG and anal is the most problematic type of scene to shoot.
From my recent experience of the last 5 anal bookings: 1 - success 1 - agency did not tell girl 1 - girl did not show up 1 - girl showed up but looked "off" so I sent her home 1 - agency did not tell girl, but she said she would do it, but I knew she wouldn't feel comfortable so we skipped the anal
When I first started, I thought so too (because you hear the stories about the sex trafficking in the old days, and to some extent, it still goes on), but it's almost always miscommunication/agent forgot to tell the girl.
And you can't blame the agency. Imagine managing 20+ active girls at a time, taking their bookings for the day, dealing with their drama, issues with productions, making sure their STD tests are up to date, visas secured, and travel arrangements booked. It must be a huge win for a girl to show up on time.
^ That's plain ridiculous! Agencies are there to provide a service otherwise why use them? If their workload in covering their responsibilities is too big that it results in the issues you're describing then they increase support staff to cover this. If what you are saying is true, production companies with any sort of credibility would be aware over time what the 'failure ' rate is and build that into their operation. You're creating an impression that agencies and production companies are bumbling idiots who are completely at the mercy of a bunch of pretty fickle pornstars who perform if they feel like it.
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upsux Deactivated User
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Posted - Jan 26 2020 : 5:47AM
This why Markus Dupree keeps getting booked. Regardless of the reasons listed above, valid or not, he's going to keep going whether the costar is ready or not.
@ pierre woodman: TUSHY makes porn films at the highest level and with great taste. It is filmed with professional equipment and sometimes several cameras. Not only women look good. The male actors are young and well built. The films are partly filmed on beautiful sunny islands with sea views.
Your films, on the other hand, are filmed in a cheap hotel room with a static camera. Everything looks dingy and cheap.
It's not that agencies are a one-man job. And even that, managing 20 girls, it's not rocket science keeping things straight and knowing that company X booked girl Y for Z. That's the least one could do, otherwise what's the point of being an agent?
@pierre
you yourself write "... were forbidden to put hands on Jessica Portman [...] but I did it" or " .... fucked FIRST the ass of Lena Reif, Oivlia Sin ... when they was supposed to be given to Tushy ..." and now you wonder they don't want to do business anymore with you? I wouldn't, either.
I'm really enjoying responding to you, since you seem to want to know more. The fact that you see pornsites meet their update schedule, is evidence they are not bumbling idiots, and you are correct, you start building procedures to mitigate these issues. In my case, I repeat the anal request multiple times, especially in the 24 hours prior to the shoot, which is when the girl starts preparing her eating habits and cleaning for anal. I had an instance the girl shitted a little, and that was enough.
You also learn to quickly drop certain girls. So if you ever wonder why your favourite pornsite might not be shooting a particular girl, it might be because she is difficult to work with. The opposite is true: you see some girls much more prominently than others, because she is well regarded as being easy to work with (shows up on time, is clean, etc).
If handling models was easy to do, production companies wouldn't need agencies, but you see how even Brazzers uses agencies (excluding the few contract models or girls they can work directly with). The Hot Girls Wanted episode with Kylie Page, gives you a pretty good idea.
And your question about why don't agencies increase staff: Could be greed, or just ignorance. Companies dont run 100% efficiently. Woodman can tell you at Julia's peak as an agent, she was still having her pornstars like Natalia and Hennessy, running around Budapest picking up the agency fee in cash, instead of proper invoicing. But she was under 30 years old, still shooting porn herself, while trying to start her own business. That's commendable.
In the age of CRM software, you would think an agency would be using that right? :) Yes, getting the girl to show up for company X, is the least they can do. It's the details like anal, where you have points of failure.
When a model is booked, an agent may receive multiple requests for the girl: - does she do anal? - who are the actors she's not willing to work with - can she show up without her face piercings - can she bring a certain outfit - the address she has to show up at, and any security procedures
And young girls, are young. An agent has to be a parent sometime, and that's difficult. So easy for a good-looking young girl to party a little too much the night before. Or fuck a random guy bareback and get an STD. Or worse, get caught up with drugs.
You are also aware of the high attrition rate of the model talent pool. i.e. the average girl works in porn 3-4 months. As an agent, you are spending a lot of time recruiting and trying to replenish your roster.
^You may be right about everything you wrote but personally I think you are full of crap. Maybe a crooked/terrible agent/agency might do those things but a true agent/agency who only makes money from the jobs he/she gets for their model would make sure to know all the things the model is willing to do when they are recruiting them so that they don't book them for something the model will get angry about and quit.
Now that doesn't mean that a porn producer won't book a model for standard b/g vaginal and then try to negotiate for more but that producer will quickly get blackballed by the models agency for doing that on the day of the shoot because the agent and model will be pissed that it was not agreed before the shoot, the girls didn't prep for anal and the amount offered for that anal was not negotiated in good form. That would likely lead to the producer not being able to book girls from that agent/agency in the future and there aren't that many agencies out there that a producer can afford to piss one off.
^ Pat362 Those things you mentioned are true too. There are bad agencies, and you learn to avoid them. Likewise, there are bad producers, and the agencies and girls learn to avoid them too. But how do these things make what I wrote, incorrect?
I answered to the scope of the questions, and not divert this thread away from the topic of TUSHY.com, by giving a full account of EVERYTHING that happens. Buy me a coffee, and I'd be happy to spend a full day and regale you with stories, of which I'm still learning and collecting. If you like me to go into more detail on anything, just ask, and we can start another thread.
Not trying to take anything away from this topic of TUSHY, but I hope to one day write some posts here about how a commoner like me got started, how much it cost, some of the good times and bad times. I just discovered this forum because a member suggested I post here.
^They still manage to get quite a few newbies and established performers to do their first on screen anal video and sometime it is still their only anal video but the problem is that these videos are getting a lot more scarce than a few years ago. You couple that with more and more European models being shot and we are not only seeing less American models shoot an anal video for Tushy but too often those European models aren't even anal newbies but well established anal performers who have done it multiples times for mutiple sites.
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upsux Deactivated User
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Posted - Jan 27 2020 : 8:27AM
I don't grasp the obsession with the 'first' in any genre but especially in this one. Assuming you enjoy anal scenes, wouldn't you rather watch an actress who knows how to comfortably perform vs a newbie with zero experience?
Many of the girls have experience in their private life, but held off on camera. I agree with you and would rather watch a more pro performance (Jenna Haze, Stoya, Sasha Grey), but lots of guys also enjoy the girls looking timid. It's the brand marquee of getting the first on-camera performance. For example, whether or not she played timid or aggressive, if you were a fan of Riley Reid and wanted to see her anal, TUSHY.com was the first and only place for a time. You would've watched. Riley made TUSHY.
It's because of costs and predictability. Anal for the European girls are half the price. Shooting in general with the European girls, are half the price.
As explained before, TUSHY needs a lot of videos (about 73 updates per year) and anal is difficult. They can't all be firsts, so as you pointed out, there are well-established anal performers who can be counted on to do an anal scene for you. A far higher percentage of girls in europe are willing to do on-camera anal
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upsux Deactivated User
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Posted - Jan 27 2020 : 11:03AM
Is that how Tushy is branded though? No doubt they've premiered some firsts, and I've not done the maths, but I believe the overwhelming majority if their catalog is established anal performers (new to the scene or not.) This rolls into the general lackluster state of the brand as the same repetitive and bland male talent is used to make the same vanilla scenes with costars who can, and have, done a lot more.
^^ The original branding - and you can see it in the first post of this thread - was elegant anal erotica. Basically, an anal x-art. Knowing how well interracial firsts did on BLACKED, VMG decided to make anal firsts as a pillar of their strategy.
But they update 73 times a year, and it's incredibly difficult to get 73 first anals, so they shoot regular anal a lot now. I don't like how their style has evolved to look more like gonzo, except shot in a cinematic style. Would be nice to see real passion, and sensuality like a girl is offering her ass to the guy, and not like the ass-pounding some of their scenes have become. Tushyraw is even worse.
I don't know what was your full message and I don't want squate this thread about another brand. At same time I dont want a missunderstanding, I never forced or obliged any of them to do what they did with me ... best proove is the number of work they did with me after and friendship I still have with them. That's all I will said here. Hope it's clear ...
^Unless you know something we don't then she has been gone for a very long time and to date only did one anal scene where she looked and sounded miserable.
This looks amazing!!! Anything with Casey doing anal is worth it's weight in gold!! Can't wait!!
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Posted - Feb 10 2020 : 7:50PM
Ariana Marie next?
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Posted - Feb 11 2020 : 4:51PM
Could have sworn the Avi/Casey scene had been done before.
Meh the last time I was really blown away by Tushy was Angel Emily's scene in 2018
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"Facialized Vol. 7" 2021 AVN Awards Winner: Best Oral Movie 9308 Posts 9/13
Posted - Feb 12 2020 : 1:50AM
^ "Could have sworn the Avi/Casey scene had been done before."
LOL, I gotta admit I thought the same thing initially. Looking at her page on Tushy right now, Casey now has four scenes on the site and every one of them has been a 2 girls/1 guy threesome. It's also Avi Love's third 2 girls/1 guy threesome scene and her fifth scene on the site altogether. And to your point about not being excited about Tushy, I just realized now that it's been a full year since I last had a membership. Looking at the pages of scenes over the past year, I think the most recent one I saw is the Adriana Chechik 3-on-1 scene that came out last Valentine's Day. This site has really fallen off my "porn radar" in the last two years.
Thanks to everyone here for supporting TUSHY these past few years. We appreciate your support and welcome your honest feedback. We hope you all continue to share your ideas and opinions as we love to discuss everything internally so we can discover new ways on improving your experience with us. We are here daily so hit us back anytime with any questions or thoughts.
Dear Vixen...The british beautyfil Emma Leigh in your content....would Be amazing
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Arkansas 53 Posts 12/04
Posted - Feb 15 2020 : 6:12AM
Ok, so my thoughts. I sub to Tushy and Tushyraw. My biggest complaint is that probably half the videos are poorly lit and/or with ridiculous colour casts. If this was an "artistic choice" the photoset would look the same but it doesn't. The photoset always looks good. I appreciate photos are always going to be slightly better lit and with a greater dynamic range than video but the video should look like only a slightly duller version of the photos, not a world away from them. Look at what your regular Markus does at his Vogov site (or Jules Jordan): his videos are beautifully lit every time, ibdoors and outdoors, and all the way through. He makes a sunny day look like a sunny day. He manages to shoot in a room woth blue or red furnishings without everything looking like a blue or red light bulb is lighting the room! As it stands I throw half of your videos away for being too poorly lit and and end up color correcting half of what remains. I like your sites but for a "premium" glamorous network to have gotten this SO badly for year upon year is pretty poor.
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