If you're going to "improve" things -- whatever standard you judge "improving" by -- get rid of the "one-age-suits-all" concept.

Years ago, when the age of emancipation was 21, younger men (who had the need and the money to do so) went to court to have themselves declared "adult" to determine their own affairs. Of course, back then women of all ages were chattel, so there is no gender equivalent.

Why not 16?

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Edited by - Mojo on 8/18/2006 3:55:16 PM

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I would never want anything bad for those young girls in porn, but it's nice to see so many beautiful of them in the biz (as long as they don't do it 100% for the money only) .

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in a capitalist country that constantly feeds its people 'dreams' of wealthy and glamour in their mass media that has little emphasis on art and education it's not surprising that most teenage girls aren't more mature and less naive.

not saying that this isn't the case in say europe, but i think the cultures are vastly different and that would be reflected in the porn industry. similar to the gun homicide stats. see: bowling for columbine. usa is thousands above the rest of the world. again, a product of its own deadly culture.

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I wish people would get over the whole "she's just doing it for the money" idea. Porn is not the only way to make big money. People get into it because *it's porn*. Porn doesn't just mean money. Porn means sex. Porn means fame. Sex and fame are an integral part of porn's draw. It sounds very old-school puritanical (oddly enough) when people eliminate female agency around our sexuality by saying that love of sex couldn't possibly have anything to do with going into the sex business. Gimme a break. Pornstars would've gone into non-sex modelling if it were just about the money and nothing about the sex.

It's not just about money. Nothing's ever just about money, because there's a million different ways to make money. How we all make our money is always about a multitude of reasons. Think about every job you've ever had. Did you do any of them "just for the money"? No. For one, you had to be able to *do* the job itself. You can't be a neurosurgeon or a forklift operator just cuz the money's good. You have to have the skill to do those things. And for 2, you have to have the opportunity to get into those fields. And for 3, you have to want to do it. Porn is not an easy biz to get into or to stay in. If there's not a part of you that wants to do it, you won't last long.

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Part of becoming responsible is having the ability to make the wrong decison. Sometimes its making the decision poorly and then realizing it. OF COURSE young adults are going to not always choose best for them... lawd knows I didnt...

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Pluhease, any half decent looking girl or lady can have better "scenes" without having some camera following around.

... Porn means fame. ...
To become famous the ratios are not pro porn.
Maybe it goes well for getting (ill)famed.

... Pornstars would've gone into non-sex modelling if it were just about the money and nothing about the sex. ... Porn is not an easy biz to get into or to stay in. If there's not a part of you that wants to do it, you won't last long. ...

It may be a little bit easier, than to get into non-sex modelling.

On Topic everything has been said, with the exception that - sometimes - after reading the posts of industry people the only mature decision is to not get into porn, be it at age 18 or age 81.

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To be honest: In the most gonzo titles everybody can clearly see it's the money only . None natural robotic stuff.

Sad...

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Sure some barely legals are hot and all, but shit, one day earlier and it woulda been statutory rape in most states.

I think the age for fucking on camrea should be raised significently.

- -B -I -G -m -i -k -e, here and there, over and out! - -

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Everyone uses the "old enough to go to war, old enough to go to work" line but I think that its true.

If 18 is the legal age that we consider one to be an adult we can't take away that adults right to work.

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Dan

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FuckJunkie

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think again.

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'These girls know where it's at by the time they're eleven'
- Fritz the cat

I vote for 16, I moved to my own place at that time and had to do my own laundry! Now people say 18 is too young for porn? P-lease...

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Nina Hartleys school of adult film making, now accepting younger recuits

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And while I've come to accept that girls will start in this business on their eighteenth birthdays, and I wouldn't favor a higher mandatory minimum age than that set by law, I do wish more of them would wait until they knew their own sexuality better and had a fuller appreciation of the impact porn will have on their lives before throwing themselves into it headlong (no pun intended).

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Thank you Nina. You have reminded us all that the people we discuss (too glibly sometimes) are reading.

I...I...I am bowing in front of my computer. I don't know what else to do. Nina Hartley responded to a thread I started. I'm literally verklempt.

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It is MUCH too easy for women to get into porn nowadays. For Christ's sake, you don't even have to look good, or know how to have sex!!! (Trust me, I know more than a few virgins who busted their cherries on camera, and have sent home more than a few less-than-sexually-arousing young women after viewing rather misleading photos from their "agents".)

The difference between sex for free and sex for money (in the case of porn) is the accountability and visible record of said act. I believe 18 is too early to be making a decision about the rest of your life that may only benefit you for a few months, as the average career span of the random porn actress is about six months.

Yes, there are a lot of 16-year-olds who look and behave like 22-year-olds... but if 22 is what you're looking for, get a 22-year-old, pervert!

Now, if you really want to a)"protect" the young delicate ignorant flowers as they make potentially disastrous decisions, and b) get some quality, passionate talent, raise the price of their FIRST AIM test to $800.00, roughly equal to their earnings for a scene. If you have to save up for a month or two to even enter the industry, you're gonna put some thought into it! Industry people, imagine what this would do!

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16 is the legal age you have to be before you can consent to sex WITH ANOTHER PERSON BETWEEN AGES 16 AND 18. At least, that's the law here, so I assume it's the same there. You can't have sex with someone who's over 18 until you are infact 18 yourself.

Therefore, the law of 18 for porn performance makes sense.

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It may be cool for you, Constant Viewer, who wants to see young, new, fresh talent, but it's a pain in the ass for [invalid URL removed]directors that want to make a quality scene and those of who want to see a quality scene.

More time = more maturity. More maturity = better quality art/product.

See: GILFs.

[coz i can ford a red eed only street a wide a ree land]

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Back on topic, does it really matter how old a girl is? I want to post this as a poll, but I can't post a new topic . I know there's endless discussions about girls starting young and then being past their prime, whatever, but you have girls who are 25 playing '18 yr old virgin next door,' and can you tell the difference anyway if it's fantasy? Does anyone research a performer's age before they elect to watch one of their scenes?

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