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| H1gh Contra5t All-Star Member "My asshole just naturally opens up because that's what I want, I'm so horny for it" 8498 Posts 1/13 | Edited by - Mackochist on 10/6/2013 2:04:06 PM |
| LCF All-Star Member Non Prevalebunt! 10364 Posts 1/05 | But most importantly according to the cover Dana left Valentina loose on Nat Turnher ![]() here for full cover and preview when available This is a MUST for me Edited by - LCF on 10/7/2013 3:41:41 AM |
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| LCF All-Star Member Non Prevalebunt! 10364 Posts 1/05 | Almost forgot , Florence is really cold in winter and the moisture in the air due to Arno river makes it worse. But then again this is my perception , I live in Rome when I kept saying it was cold here a Canadian girl I was dating back then kept laughing at me , she was born in Toronto. You don't even know what cold is.She said. Edited by - LCF on 10/7/2013 8:36:51 AM |
| CummingLinguist All-Star Member 5908 Posts 11/11 | We meet the lustful twice– in Hell and in Purgatory. In Inferno 5, the lustful Francesca speaks of "Love" and blames a book for their indiscretions. In Purgatory 26, the equally lustful Guido clearly states that he is a sinner. Francesca is damned because her lust blinded her to heavenly love, and because she blamed her sin on others– not because she sinned. Francesca chooses to spend eternity in Paolo's embrace rather than facing the fires of Purgatory. Guido was not blind to heavenly love, and welcomes the fires of purgatory. If Valentina is counted among the blessed, no doubt the purging fires will burn her spirit to the core, but I don't consider her sins graver than any mortal's. Edited to add: In fact, the entire premise of The Comedy is that Dante's sins are so grave that he– alone among all the blessed souls who ever lived– had to visit Hell in his fleshy body before he could choose Heaven over Hell. I would argue that the Poem's narrator is still a sinner, and that the Poet knows that even though the Narrator has climbed the Mountain once, he will need to do it again. Edited by - cumminglinguist on 10/7/2013 9:08:32 AM |
| LCF All-Star Member Non Prevalebunt! 10364 Posts 1/05 | Interesting view "La Bocca mi baciò tutto tremante Galeotto fu 'l libro e chi lo scrisse Quel giorno più non vi leggemmo avante" (if I recall well, it was high school, third year, 16 of age,when I learnt it) Of course much like any other student I hated the Divina Commedia (while still at school I mean), yet we all were well aware of its beauty and power , it was the usual reflection of anybody forced to study something instead of having fun Though our English teacher brought us to a theatre to an afternoon representation it was Shakespeare's Julius Caesar , in English , after a while all my friends left , I stayed, I was overwhelmed it was much more powerful than it was translated , My English wasn't good enough and I missed most of it, yet its rhythm, metric , use of words , vowels , consonants and everything was so powerful that I stayed. None of us could possibly get it , and our teacher knew , but he also knew some of us would be caught by it , I was one of them I still remember the beginning of Mark Anthony's speech Friends, Romans, Countrymen ,lend me your ears I came to bury Caesar not to praise him his use of nasal sounds (n,m and so) and the recurrent R made it unforgettable for me, it sound very vibrant and powerful. Edited by - LCF on 10/7/2013 10:19:50 AM |
| CummingLinguist All-Star Member 5908 Posts 11/11 | Benigni reciting Inferno 5. The original with English Translation to read along. His interpretation of Paradise 33 is stunning, at least to foreign ears. I understand he plans to do a movie. A number of people have done Inferno, but I think this may be the first full cinematic treatment of the whole Comedy. Benigni seems to really love the poem, so I'm interested to see what he does. |
| LCF All-Star Member Non Prevalebunt! 10364 Posts 1/05 | It was a revelation even for us, I mean all Italians studied Dante at some level but always in their schools , Dante in Florentine proper accent is almost unheard by many. It is almost as Shakespeare read with a southern states American English accent compared a Received Pronunciation British English it is so different that I believe even a native would want to hear it in such a proper accent same for us , the Comedy read in Florentine accent is not the same as in any other Another version of the same part is that of Vittorio Gassman who was born in Genua I think the difference might be caught even for non Italian speakers (from minute 2.53) Edited by - LCF on 10/7/2013 10:54:31 AM |
| CummingLinguist All-Star Member 5908 Posts 11/11 | They did a full episode on Shakespeare. At one point, they had a famous British actor read a speech, and then had a scholar of Elizabethan English phonetics read the same speech in an appropriate Elizabethan dialect (Shakespeare supposedly had a special gift for fitting his poetry to the dialect of his characters). It was mind-boggling how much better it sounded in Elizabethan English. I didn't know that Benigni is Florentine. I checked out a number of other recitations, and didn't think any of them came close to Benigni's. I'm sure the fact that he is a trained and gifted actor doesn't hurt. The Youtube channel has a limited number of Cantos. Do you know if he's ever recorded the entire poem? |
| LCF All-Star Member Non Prevalebunt! 10364 Posts 1/05 | BTW I might have been unclear he lives in Florence and was born in Tuscany but at Castiglion Fiorentino which is a town around 40 miles from Florence there's no difference in the accents though It was Dante the one born in Florence. Sorry for misleading you Edited by - LCF on 10/7/2013 11:27:46 AM |
| CummingLinguist All-Star Member 5908 Posts 11/11 | I tried listening to the Benigni while typing these words, and became distracted. I searched and found my place in the text, and continued to listen. For the first time, I felt pity for Francesca. In English, I understood– intellectually– that the Pilgrim pitied her, but while hearing Benigni read it, a tear filled my eye and I needed to wipe it away. The emotional reaction aided my intellectual understanding. At the end, Benigni reads: Mentre che l’uno spirto questo disse, And all the while one spirit (Francesca) uttered this, Then he pauses, and continues: l’altro piangëa; sì che di pietade io venni men così com’ io morisse. E caddi come corpo morto cade. The other one did weep so, that, for pity, I swooned away as if I had been dying, And fell, even as a dead body falls. The pause breaks the story so that when he says, "the other one", you are a little confused, "Who is the other one?" On every previous reading, I assumed "The other one" was Paolo. But I now see it could also be the Pilgrim (for is he not also a spirit). This confusion of Dante and Paolo adds power to the subsequent suggestion that the Pilgrim has done more than faint, but has fallen into sin. I would also add that the words "corpo morto cade" have a poetry that is not captured by "dead body falls". |
| CummingLinguist All-Star Member 5908 Posts 11/11 | I forget the exact reference, but he meets one of his ancestors in Paradise. His ancestor describes a murder that took place on the Ponte Vecchio and marked the last day of peace in Florence. |
| LCF All-Star Member Non Prevalebunt! 10364 Posts 1/05 | The other one is Paolo , Francesca lover , who was crying for two thing he wasn't strong enough to avoid the passion,but he would it again the two were together in hell too. As "corpo morto" is an Italian expression literally translated as dead body but it means actually to fall as a body with no life , a rock , a dead man or someone who fainted and this latter was the case of Dante who pitied the two who went to Inferno out of absolute Love It is also used to describe someone who runs into things "a corpo morto" means with complete dedication and with no second thoughts As for the society it was divided between Guelfi and Ghibellini and then btween Guelfi Bianchi and Guelfi Neri , roughly they were political positions ,now it is way worse. Edited by - LCF on 10/7/2013 11:57:44 AM |
| H1gh Contra5t All-Star Member "My asshole just naturally opens up because that's what I want, I'm so horny for it" 8498 Posts 1/13 | Big Tit Cream Pie (Bang Bros) - TBA Sweet Petite (Jules Jordan) - TBA Soaking Wet (Jules Jordan) - 07.10.13 Sloppy Head 5 (Evil Angel) - 15.10.13 First Encounters (Elegant Angel) - 15.10.13 Anal Is My Business (Evil Angel) - 21.10.13 Back In Black (Evil Angel) - 23.10.13 Babysit My Ass 3 (Evil Angel) - 18.11.13 The Lexecutioner (Evil Angel) - 27.11.13 Raw 16 (Evil Angel) - 27.11.13 And we haven't even reached the Christmas season yet |
| CummingLinguist All-Star Member 5908 Posts 11/11 | In English, we often quote Shakespeare without knowing it. For instance, phrases like "All of a sudden," "hot-blooded", "night owl", and "up in arms" were all first used in writing by Shakespeare, and are believed by scholars to be his coinages. Is it possible that Dante's phrasing has worked its way so deeply into the Italian language that people no longer realize they are quoting him? Edited by - cumminglinguist on 10/7/2013 3:08:26 PM |
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Dante serves three roles in the Poem. He is the Pilgrim, a fictional character who is journeying to see God. He is the Narrator, a fictional character who is sharing his memories of the Pilgrimage. He is the Poet, the real person who wrote the poem. I often make the distinction to avoid confusion, but in this case, I clearly sowed confusion. I think the distinction is especially important in Hell, for the Pilgrim still has much to learn, and Francesca is among the most seductive of the damned spirits he encounters. I have no doubt the Narrator is referring to Paolo, but I suspect the Poet wanted to suggest that maybe the Pilgrim (or Virgil, or even the reader) wept as well. Whether this reading is appropriate or not, Benigni's long pause before speaking the words "the other one" led me to question who that other one might be, and it added to my feeling of pity for Dante as he fell. |
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| H1gh Contra5t All-Star Member "My asshole just naturally opens up because that's what I want, I'm so horny for it" 8498 Posts 1/13 | This pretty much leads onto the second reason, which is that 2) Valentina hardly sees any anal action, and by that I mean with a real cock. It's different strokes for different folks, which I get but if a girl's going to get it up the ass for a scene I would prefer for a majority of it to be from a real cock. A strap-on is great, don't get me wrong, but when most of the anal action Valentina got was from the strap-on and only 5 minutes or so at the beginning with Ramon, again I found it somewhat frustrating. I can see Valentina enjoying herself and by rights that alone should get me off, but I couldn't help but notice most of the time the strap-on was more or less sitting in her ass without much penetration or movement which in the end just feels rather ineffective, despite the obvious pleasure it was giving Valentina. Again, I think this another element that contributed to my frustration. The DP action was pretty good but for me personally, an opportunity was missed to have Ramon in her ass rather than the strap-on. It could have at least been alternated at some point but sadly this never came. In hindsight, these personal issues would have been resolved as a BG or BBG scene. Still, you can't win them all and even the hottest, most beautiful girls in the world will not get you off with every single scene they do. It's rare but it happens, according to what we like to get off to and what we can't get off to, for whatever reason. Here, it was just a case of more things I cannot get off to outweighing the things that I can, despite Valentina's magnificent screen presence. I am sure of one thing though, and that this will be a real rarity. I've no doubt everything else she has due to come out will get me off like a box of fireworks |
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And that is the question , the doubt he put in the reader's mind , how is it possible that such a pure, strong love , stronger than anything , so strong that nobody dares to separate them even in the Inferno, has ended in such desperation , in such suffering instead of being blessed in heaven? That is why Dante wept and why he fainted , the sense of injustice for such destiny was overwhelming. Everybody would imagine himself or herself in such situation very easily , Dante's depiction of the two was incredibly powerful , more so in his times of very strong religious sentiments and they were sinners Anyway yes we're OT but , man how many pornsites have a discussion like this? OK end OT Edited by - LCF on 10/8/2013 1:59:47 PM |
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| H1gh Contra5t All-Star Member "My asshole just naturally opens up because that's what I want, I'm so horny for it" 8498 Posts 1/13 | ![]() ![]() ![]() This, ladies and gents, is a rare prime example of pure, naturally flawless beauty. And to think I'm going to be watching her and Sarah Shevon get it on tonight in 'Ass Party 6'... |
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| odelay2 Member 166 Posts 2/06 | Ive watched her The Ass Party 6 & Anal Buffet 8. Her ass is incredible! So from what I've read she's done 6 scenes with Mike Adriano but none (why I ask?!) of these have been released. I'm sure that Mike has done a lot of tease footage of that butt and hopefully we'll get to see it strolling about back and forth pretty soon. From her scenes so far, are there any where she does a lot of walking about showing off that juicy butt?! In Anal Buffet she walks at the very start but only for a few steps. I hope she soon advances to DP, DAP, gang bangs etc. It should be some treat! PS. I Love the pic 'Malandro' posted on Sept 8th 2012. What movie is this from? Think she enters my top 10 anyway!! |
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| LCF All-Star Member Non Prevalebunt! 10364 Posts 1/05 | As Shylock said she was completely booked up plus being her European her visa had an expiring date and she must return to Italy, so they cannot resume the lost shoots. But don't worry according to Mark Spiegler she'll be back in the USA to shoot in January 2014, and she already has a lot to shoot. BTW if I recall well the scenes with Mike were 7 , he did one and then booked her for six more , so there must be at least one scene with them , though it might not be for his DVD it might have been shot for a site such for example Mr Anal or Pawg , I don't know. Edited by - LCF on 10/13/2013 6:31:09 AM |
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| Malandro Member Why you think the net was born? Porn, Porn, Porn! 363 Posts 8/09 | Unfortunately thus far I've been overall disappointed with her US scenes; not because of Valentina, but rather because in my opinion I have found that the US scenes have failed to really capture make proper use of her beauty. It's almost as if there they have no ideas and they resort to the standard cookie cutter, gonzo porn standard. The closest I found to actually achieving something unique and outstanding with Valentina was Joey Silvera in Ass Party. I was very much enjoying the scene, particularly because the lingerie that Valentina was wearing really accentuated the curves on her body while at the same time gave her a more classic/vintage look that really works for her. Valentina was simply beautiful to look at in that scene until.... for some reason, rather than making this a vehicle for Valentina, he splits her screen time and completely wastes what could have and should have been a great showcase for this Italian beauty. |
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