veronique vega is PISSED off,and rightly so

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sgv626 Member I C BOOTIE 293 Posts 11/07	Posted - Mar 29 2008 : 2:13PM The following is from Veronique's myspace page blog it seems like she is rather pissed at her agency LA DIRECT. What do you think about the whole ordeal, actually seems kind of nasty to me. But maybe the talent will say this is a common thing and just wipe it off and complete the scene? I also wonder who the girl and guy were in the scene. [ invalid url ] Friday, March 28, 2008 SEX + INFECTION = CATFISH SEX = I’M OUT Current mood: cynical Category: Romance and Relationships * IF YOU TAKE OFFENCE EASILY OR ARE SQUEAMISH OR UNDER 18- GO AWAY* :) today was SO weird, it was like, half fabulous-- half hell. i woke up at 7, ate some raisin bran (i’m dieting just a bit-- i have major photo shoots comin up) and headed to equinox for some weight training and my 30 min cardio fix on the stairmaster ( i love that thing). all is good. i hit the steam room and make my way back home in westwood to get ready for my video shoot. today i had a boy girl girl scene with a girl i’m not friends with but am familiar with-- and she’s this 99 pound blond chick and she’s pretty cute (i’m not typically into blondes except jesse jane) so i’m excited cause i lovvvvvvvvvve shooting dirty movies and i just happened to be really friggin hot and turned on from this dirty dream had last night about geting gangbanged in the park by some big biker guys at church-- it was really dirty ( i’m demented slighty). so i’m all wet and ready to fuckin go! (this is a gonzo by the way.) so we do all the girl girl pics of me and this chick and its time to get the guy in for the sex pics and all is good and she takes him first. so he slides his hard cock inside her and starts pumping her really hard and i’m totally into it......... ...until i SMELL something. i look down at his cock and its covered in a white SMELLy cream. like, really yogurt looking and i’m like, oh HELL no-- that’s the end of the day. Straight up bacterial infection! Like a MASSIVE catfish one. Now I don’t CARE, i mean girls are bound to get a yeast or w/e infection once or twice throughout the year esp in the adult industry from either douching too much or sweating at the gym or WHATEVER-- it really isn’t a big deal, but it is quite an uncomfortable situation to be in and i sure as fuck wasn’t gonna risk catching that shit. I took a 2 month break from the industry as most of you know due to my own health issues (i had a bruised fallopian tube i’m 100% better now thank god) so the last thing i’m going to risk is my HEALTH, like for REALS. so no biggie, i call my agent to cancel and re-book when this chick gets better, shes a sweetheart and i just want her pussy to be healthy so i can have FUN with her, ya know? i get HELL from my agent for "collasping" the scene and "making the decision" to put my health as a priority above money. I swear to god. I could not believe what i was hearing. its like DUHH-- do you really think i’m going to eat a girls infected pussy out so i can catch her infection and spend a week curing myself? AS IF. i don’t get a flying f*k about the money. give me a fucking break. its so sad that thats ALL it is to about 90% of individuals in XXX. it’s like-- i fucking ENJOY and LOVE my job so i wanna be healthy enough to give 110% every time.. am i like- a WEIRDO for NOT having a prostitute mentality???? plz tell me. i didn’t get into adult because i needed money. i’ve GOT that covered.. i love to express my sexuality and share it with good folks like yourselves..its a fucking art and i’m not gonna stop til i’ve MASTERED it-- its just UNbelieveable how some people’s priorities are in this industry and how few people have respect for themselves. My agent actually wanted me to go through with the scene after i told him the girl had health issues and then called me a DIVA for standing my ground. I will never compromise ANY part of me-- from my beliefs to my body-- for ANYONE at all ESPECIALLy for their monetary gains (so he can collect an agent fee). I just had a major wake up call when its comes to identifying the people who truly have my best interests in mind ...and it sure as hell ain’t my crazy agent. You have to feel sorry for people sometimes when you look at how unhappy they must be...sigh*. What goes around comes around... [Link]
benderset Deactivated User 477 Posts 8/06	Posted - Mar 29 2008 : 2:25PM Cant blame her for not wanting to work with a performer who isnt 100% healthy. Its clear that the people at LA direct dont really care about the health and well being of their talent. [Link]
picman Senior Member Nothing says I love you so much as a tongue in the ass. 2884 Posts 1/03	Posted - Mar 29 2008 : 2:38PM Can't say I'm surprised to hear this. LA Direct has a reputation for reliability above all else, and they're the best at getting performers work. At least that's what I hear. Performers in the know go into their dealings with their eyes open. I guess Veronique just got a wake up call. Where I disagree with her is the portrayal of prostitutes as willing to do anything for money, no matter what. Maybe crack head hoes are that malleable, but most pros have their limits and rules. Not that they're not willing to bend a few for enough cash, but it's definitely not automatic. [Link]
RedClayFH Member 256 Posts 2/08	Posted - Mar 29 2008 : 2:44PM I wonder if the agent was Derek Hay. It probably would be since he probably represents LA Direct's bigger stars. (LA Direct has multiple agents on staff). I don't know much about bacterial infections, but maybe it is custom for performers to work even if one of their partners has a bacterial infection. [Link]
below_me Member An entire generation of men spoiled by a few kinky pornstars. You know who you are!! 655 Posts 9/07	Posted - Mar 29 2008 : 2:46PM Drama! Do tell more. [Link]

benderset Deactivated User 477 Posts 8/06	Posted - Mar 29 2008 : 3:09PM RedClayFH wrote: I wonder if the agent was Derek Hay. It probably would be since he probably represents LA Direct's bigger stars. (LA Direct has multiple agents on staff). I don't know much about bacterial infections, but maybe it is custom for performers to work even if one of their partners has a bacterial infection. Click to expand Hopefully its not custom. Would you want to lick anothers bacterial infection thats just gross [Link]
Shagdog Member Houston 626 Posts 1/07	Posted - Mar 29 2008 : 4:11PM I have to side with Veronique on this. She doesn't owe it to Derek Hay to get an infection to finish the scene. She should have been paid in full. It's the producer fault for not provide her with a healthy girl to perform with. RedClayFH I don't think you can find a doctor that will tell you "It's ok to have sex with a girl with an infection" It is not good for her heath either. The concern should have been in getting that girl to a doctor. Fuck Derek Hay for not standing up for his girls. He owes her an apology and her money. [Link]
Cornell Lingus Senior Member Carryin', contrarian, libertarian 2982 Posts 1/08	Posted - Mar 29 2008 : 4:16PM +1. I'll go along with that fully. Smart move on VV's part. And if the other girl knew about that infection she should have called in. [Link]
RedClayFH Member 256 Posts 2/08	Posted - Mar 29 2008 : 4:28PM Yeah, I definitely would not want to have sexual relations with someone with a bacterial infection. And I'm sure one would be hard pressed to find a doctor who said "It's ok to have sex with a girl with an infection" But it's important to remember that the porn industry has different perceptions of STDs than the general public. Many of the lesser STDs are routinely spread and catching them is considered part of the job. Genital Herpes, for example, is rampant in the industry with some saying that 80% of performers have it (Dr. Mitchell of AIM estimates that 60% of performers have Herpes). I guess it's hard for people not in the industry to make conclustions about this situation. I would love to hear the opinions of some performers in the industry regarding this issue. [Link]
LubeNLuv Senior Member 1854 Posts 3/06	Posted - Mar 29 2008 : 4:49PM OMG, you mean the porn agency put money above a porn performers' own welfare?!?!?!?! Color me....shocked? [Link]
Shagdog Member Houston 626 Posts 1/07	Posted - Mar 29 2008 : 4:49PM RedClayFH My ex-wife Got one of these infection. She gave it to me. It was not noticeable on me. But everytime she would get it clear up I would give it to her again. Finally we both had to go to the doctors and get pills to clear it up. There is just no excuse for spreading infections. [Link]
jrsl76 Senior Member Perfection 4024 Posts 8/07	Posted - Mar 29 2008 : 4:52PM Right On, VV! [Link]
wheat Senior Member You want a toe? I can get you a toe 1131 Posts 4/06	Posted - Mar 29 2008 : 5:43PM The agent sounds more like a pimp. Good on her for having the guts to stand up for herself. [Link]
picman Senior Member Nothing says I love you so much as a tongue in the ass. 2884 Posts 1/03	Posted - Mar 29 2008 : 6:25PM Try to keep in mind that there are two other sides to this story. LA Direct's and the truth. While Veronique's version may be honest, things might not have gone down exactly as she portrayed them. As far as agents in the industry are concerned, they'll be supplying talent to these directors long after any one particular performer has ridden off into the sunset. Not too different from our elected officials. They need our votes to gain office, but they really only represent the people putting money in their pockets. [Link]
Gentleman Jon All-Star Member 1881 Posts 6/05	Posted - Mar 29 2008 : 7:29PM If a girl catches an infection and has to take some time off to get healthy, wouldn't the agency lose more commissions than if she had just cancelled the one scene where it was obvious she could catch an infection? [Link]

ancientk Member 27 Posts 3/08	Posted - Mar 29 2008 : 7:42PM poor veronique that's a bullshit situation What happened to the guy? He was okay with it? Well, Veronica, I'm not infected Edited by - ancientk on 4/11/2008 5:58:25 PM [Link]
TJCummings Member 398 Posts 12/05	Posted - Mar 29 2008 : 7:59PM Good girl Veronique. [Link]
Derek117 Senior Member 1605 Posts 1/06	Posted - Mar 29 2008 : 8:03PM wheat wrote: The agent sounds more like a pimp. Click to expand Uh, yeah. And somehow I'm not surprised. [Link]
Cornell Lingus Senior Member Carryin', contrarian, libertarian 2982 Posts 1/08	Posted - Mar 29 2008 : 8:12PM Isn't a credible agent as rare as virgin porn stars? [Link]
Dave_K99 Member 497 Posts 12/07	Posted - Mar 29 2008 : 9:10PM Gentleman Jon wrote: If a girl catches an infection and has to take some time off to get healthy, wouldn't the agency lose more commissions than if she had just cancelled the one scene where it was obvious she could catch an infection? Click to expand +1 Even ignoring issues of basic human decency, it just doesn't make financial sense to put a performer at unnecessary risk for one scene. Of course the woman with the infection shouldn't be working until it's cured, and the people shooting the scene should have ended it themselves. Who would want to see evidence of infection on screen when they're watching a porn movie? I think it's sad that other performers would agree to work with someone suffering from such obvious health issues. What about the other people they'd be working with afterwards? It's no wonder that there are outbreaks in the porn industry if people have that kind of attitude. Respect to Veronique for being the sensible one here. [Link]
elgringoviejo58 Senior Member 1460 Posts 1/07	Posted - Mar 29 2008 : 10:18PM Methinks that the agent was being "sensible" to his reputation for being able to deliver talent to perform, even at the risk to her health, and agents like this might bring the heavy hand of government regulation into porn valley some of these days. Brava, bravissima to Veronique Vega. [Link]
Monstar Senior Member http://twitter.com/MonstarPR 1154 Posts 4/04	Posted - Mar 29 2008 : 10:20PM picman wrote: As far as agents in the industry are concerned, they'll be supplying talent to these directors long after any one particular performer has ridden off into the sunset. Click to expand Does that give some credence to the alleged attitude? that to some, the talent is expendable, there will be some one walking right in the door after they've left? that's pretty harsh. ContactPornStars.com TheStarFactoryEnt.com [Link]
wheat Senior Member You want a toe? I can get you a toe 1131 Posts 4/06	Posted - Mar 29 2008 : 10:30PM it's harsh but in reality it seems true. The agents represent the girls but they serve the people who shoot the porn as that relationship will last far longer than the girls shelf life. The agents don't want to piss off the companies the companies don't want to piss of the agents and the girls if they aren't smart are simply a disposable by-product. Have to say the more i read here about the way people in porn run things the more im starting to agree with those outside the industry who want much tighter regulations. [Link]
Shagdog Member Houston 626 Posts 1/07	Posted - Mar 30 2008 : 9:53AM picman wrote: Try to keep in mind that there are two other sides to this story. LA Direct's and the truth. While Veronique's version may be honest, things might not have gone down exactly as she portrayed them. As far as agents in the industry are concerned, they'll be supplying talent to these directors long after any one particular performer has ridden off into the sunset. Not too different from our elected officials. They need our votes to gain office, but they really only represent the people putting money in their pockets. Click to expand 1 The other side of the story and the truth - The person on the phone wasn't going have "lick that sick pussy" Wasn't going to get the infection. Wasn't going to have to pay a doctor for treatment. Wasn't going to lose work while they recovered. Wasn't going to suffer the damaged to their reputation. 2 The agents take money from the talent to represent the talent not the producers. Veronique standing up for herself was heroic. [Link]
Derek117 Senior Member 1605 Posts 1/06	Posted - Mar 30 2008 : 10:33AM Shagdog wrote: Veronique standing up for herself was heroic. Click to expand Amen, bro. [Link]

ganymede Member 32 Posts 4/06	Posted - Mar 30 2008 : 11:04AM RedClay asked to hear what other talent has to say. I understand why I'd remain a bit quiet on this. Ironically, I've only heard LA Direct's take (not from Derek... but all from hearsay) on this from buzz. WHat did the people who BOOKED THE TALENT have to say? Were they cool with it? DId LA Direct offer to get another girl to the set as quickly a possible? When a girl flakes, there are ways to get replacement talent to the site quickly. AT then end of the day, health trumps all... but it is about $$ after all. [Link]
Shagdog Member Houston 626 Posts 1/07	Posted - Mar 30 2008 : 12:07PM I think it doesn't matter what anyone else thinks. Veronique made it very clear she ain't eatin any CATFISH PUSSY lol [Link]
RandomPrecision Senior Member Enjoy! 8175 Posts 3/06	Posted - Mar 30 2008 : 12:47PM Completely understandable. Although I'd say the men are probably the main source of most health issues in the industry. The girls come and go pretty rapidly but the same guys hang around forever. I really don't see how any girl can work in the industry without being exposed to something. [Link]
Bill All-Star Member 5334 Posts 6/00	Posted - Mar 30 2008 : 1:07PM I'd be interested in knowing what it typically expected of a performer in a case like this. There are a whole bunch of things that performers accept as common occurrences that "civilians" would freak out about. Is this one of them? Veronique doesn't mention the attitude of the the guy in the scene or that of the director. If this were a case where the norm would be to end the scene, you'd think that they would have agreed with her and no call to her agent would be necessary. In Christian's blog, he described a situation where a girl that he was working with had an infection, and the scene was canceled immediately with no drama whatsoever. I'm not saying that I think that Veronique is wrong. However, not knowing the total story, I can't say that I think that she is right either. I'd love to hear from other performers and/or directors about how a situation, such as the one that Veronique described, it typically handled in the business. [Link]
rlankford Senior Member 2045 Posts 6/06	Posted - Mar 30 2008 : 1:09PM The unknown question is who was the infected girl and who was her agent. If LA Direct was also her agent then I could see why Derek would push Veronique to finish the scene. If not, then shouldn't all the responsibility fall onto the infected girl and her agent. Derek and LA Direct provided a clean, healthy and horny girl on set ready to perform. Why wouldn't he talk to the producer directly, stand up for one of his girls and put the responsiblity on the other girl and her agency. If it was just about the money then why would he risk Veronique to possible infection and any future lost income. It doesn't add up. [Link]
RedClayFH Member 256 Posts 2/08	Posted - Mar 30 2008 : 1:16PM We should be careful not to assume that Derek is the agent...it could have been another one of LA Direct's agents, like I mentioned in a previous post. [Link]
Shagdog Member Houston 626 Posts 1/07	Posted - Mar 30 2008 : 1:27PM RedClayFH wrote: We should be careful not to assume that Derek is the agent...it could have been another one of LA Direct's agents, like I mentioned in a previous post. Click to expand He owns the company. He owns the mess. [Link]
Ranger2007 Member 37 Posts 12/06	Posted - Mar 30 2008 : 2:13PM Hey Gang, It's nice to see that most of you have Veronique's back on this thing ;) If you're a fan of hers please join her official yahoo group. Veronique Vega Yahoo Group Veronique is a group member and posts regularly! [Link]
RedClayFH Member 256 Posts 2/08	Posted - Mar 30 2008 : 2:21PM Shagdog wrote: RedClayFH wrote: We should be careful not to assume that Derek is the agent...it could have been another one of LA Direct's agents, like I mentioned in a previous post. Click to expand He owns the company. He owns the mess. Click to expand that's true, but it is not fair to prematurely label Derek as the agent who interacted with Veronique. [Link]
pornlaw Member 578 Posts 10/05	Posted - Mar 30 2008 : 2:53PM Any performer at any time as the right and obligation to her/himself as well to other performers to cancel a scene for health or safety reasons. Licensed and bonded agents in California owe a legal contractual obligation to their clients to protect their health and safety. This is issue should have never made it to her blog, here or AdultFYI. This type of situation and the press it receives is only going to result in greater regulation and governmental intrusions, where none is necessary if basic health and safety principles could be adhered to. Its sad but this is not uncommon in the industry though. Michael www.AdultBizLaw.com Edited by - pornlaw on 3/30/2008 2:56:09 PM [Link]

sgv626 Member I C BOOTIE 293 Posts 11/07	Posted - Mar 30 2008 : 4:22PM are they going to pay me for my reporting and writing the article for them ??? lol[link removed: No tube sites] [Link]
CL Member 108 Posts 8/07	Posted - Mar 30 2008 : 5:38PM Good for Vega, thats just nasty. [Link]
Shagdog Member Houston 626 Posts 1/07	Posted - Mar 30 2008 : 5:45PM The only thing left to do. Derek Hay owes her an apology and her money. If he can't do his job, and get her money from the producer, then pay her out of his pocket. And post the apology on her Myspace. [Link]
alexhilton0594 Member 11 Posts 4/07	Posted - Mar 30 2008 : 9:47PM I just read Veronique's new blog responding to all the "drama". pretty funny [ invalid url ] Here it is CLEARING UP THE GOSSIP Current mood: energetic Category: Life OKAY-- whoa. I just wanna comment further on my last blog if ya’ll don’t mind.. 1. I posted that blog because I was extremely upset and outraged at what happened that day, not because there was a health concern on set- (hell i want the girl to get pills asap so it doesn’t get worse) -but because when i called my agent to cancel the scene i was told that because i "MADE THE DECISION" to "COLLAPSE" the scene I would have to PAY a kill fee for everyone. In other words, because I didn’t want to risk getting infected, I have to pay for not going down on a girl so everyone can get their money. (Everyone saw the cream, the director had a cold that day so he couldn’t smell and i assume the guy just thought some girls had excess cream-- or just didn’t care. Which doesn’t surprise me. I’ve done my research, i’ve been on countless sets, I’ve HAD an infection before- I KNOW what it looks like. I could be a gyno with all the stuff i’ve seen.) I called my agent immediately and explained the situation and he just kept saying "it’s YOUR decision, veronique, to cancel" and i’m like-- uHH what OPTION are you giving me, is this MY fault? and he kept responding "i’m not going to argue with you-- i refuse to get mad over this..." and then said something that mad me laugh "we all know you are not the type of girl we can persuade to do anything".. Right. Because you don’t waste your time with anyone who has a brain. You adore idiotic, robotic ’yes girls’ that are willing to work twice on their birthdays and when someone offers a high price for them to do anal-- guess what? -they do it with a smile. Why? Because they are afraid of you or they need the money that bad. So as you can see, i just give him hell. 2. Thanks so much for everyones support and understanding on this issue. Its deeply appreciated. Seriously. And for everyone that thinks i’m a liar, or am just spiteful, or should have just sucked it up and done it-- or WHATEVER you think about me thats negative-- thank YOU just as much cause you’re all AWESOME. If it was just 100% love and support from everyone 24/7- i’d be half as dumb as some of the aforementioned chicks in the biz i spoke about. You are the ones that keep me level headed. So thank you for making me dig a little deeper, look at the overall picture, and take a stronger stand for what i expect out of myself. 3. I AM NOT MAD SO PLZ DON’T MISCONSTRUE WHAT I SAID EARLIER. I hold no personal grudges about anyone. I realize I can’t expect to always be treated like a mainstream actress in this industry. ;) I made the decision to hop in and you have to take the good with the bad. And thus far, it’s be 90% good- and i can honestly say that with a huge smile on my face and sleep happy at night. Thats only because I have a huge amount of respect for myself and stay away from drugs and most of the other porn cliches. And thank fucking god. Now i can see SOME people reading that and thinking "BITCH- well how can you fucking have respect for yourself and do porn!?" and the answer to that is- i never said i was ’normal’. I never claimed to be anyone’s role model, either. All I know is that some of MY role models aren’t exactly politically correct, outstanding citizens themselves. And AMEN for that. Think of it this way: If someone broadcasted the 5 most controversial or just weird-- even embarrassing things about you for the world to see- normality in our society would be thrown out the door. I’m in the adult industry so you all know one of mine. I know i’m absolutely crazy and i’m a sexual maniac and have a zillion other quirky characteristics-- and i can embrace that. thats actually something i LIKE about myself for god sake, believe it or not. Its just so hard for people to understand that and nearly impossible to defend, especially the XXX part-- so i’m not going to begin trying. I’m just going to be me and see how it goes. XOX VERONIQUE VEGA. Made a clicky linky Edited by - heynow on 4/1/2008 9:54:22 AM [Link]
sgv626 Member I C BOOTIE 293 Posts 11/07	Posted - Mar 30 2008 : 10:00PM Veronique is a good person it seems and she is defending herself in the proper way, Good job don't let them put you down or try to make you pay a kill fee. Most of all keep making your own decisions about your life and health. PS i hope she did not pay that kill fee Edited by - heynow on 4/1/2008 9:52:26 AM [Link]
Bob All-Star Member 5516 Posts 3/03	Posted - Mar 30 2008 : 11:04PM Yay Veronique!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That's one clear-eyed, level-headed girl! . (Fuck Derek Hay and the horse-cock he road in on.) [Link]
skronker Notable Legendary Icon Scopophiliac 9780 Posts 9/02	Posted - Mar 30 2008 : 11:38PM I know this shit is true because I've heard all the stories. Go Veronique .... smart girl. [Link]
Shagdog Member Houston 626 Posts 1/07	Posted - Mar 31 2008 : 12:59AM She needs to get her a good lawyer. She has Derek Hay by the ass. If she goes to the state Licensing board with this. California will have investigators all over his ass. Investigating every deal he ever made, his relationship with porn producers. Interviewing ever performer that ever worked for him. The federal will government could end up involved in this. With charges of Racketeering fraud, mail fraud in they ever mailed a check. There are federal and state laws on how you conduct business. And they carry prison time. [Link]
Bob All-Star Member 5516 Posts 3/03	Posted - Mar 31 2008 : 1:06AM I'll bet a reasonably capable attorney would be able to get Veronique out of her contract with L.A. Direct Models (that is, if she wanted out) based on this incident. A demand letter to Derek Hay reciting the relevant facts, citing the applicable provisions of Cal OSHA and the California Talent Agencies Act, together the draft of a proposed letter to the California Labor Commissioner, would probably do the trick. I'm just saying. . Edited by - bob on 3/31/2008 1:08:44 AM [Link]
Bob All-Star Member 5516 Posts 3/03	Posted - Mar 31 2008 : 1:13AM Shagdog wrote: She has Derek Hay by the ass. Click to expand She has enough to get out of her agency agreement. I'm not sure what she'd do with his ass. No damages to her; no reason to sue him for anything other than recission. [Link]
Bob All-Star Member 5516 Posts 3/03	Posted - Mar 31 2008 : 1:19AM I'll bet Michael Fattorosi would be happy to take her call. [Link]
pornlaw Member 578 Posts 10/05	Posted - Mar 31 2008 : 3:45AM I'll bet Michael Fattorosi would be happy to take her call. Click to expand I would. I have met Veronique before. She's a sweet girl. As for taking her out of her contract with Derek, believe it or not, I have seen Derek and LA Direct become more reasonable recently in dealing with his clients. Perhaps the increased agency competition has put a little pressure on him. Not sure of the history behind Veronique's relationship with LA Direct and Derek and whether it is an isolated incident with her. However, if its not an isolated incident then I would tell her to do what she thinks is in her own best interest. Otherwise, it is always better for a performer to work through a situation directly with their agents rather than resort to an attorney. Michael www.AdultBizLaw.com [Link]
Bob All-Star Member 5516 Posts 3/03	Posted - Mar 31 2008 : 10:20AM pornlaw wrote: It is always better for a performer to work through a situation directly with their agents rather than resort to an attorney. Click to expand Absolutely. You're a credit to the profession. [Link]
Shagdog Member Houston 626 Posts 1/07	Posted - Mar 31 2008 : 10:44AM pornlaw wrote: I'll bet Michael Fattorosi would be happy to take her call. Click to expand Otherwise, it is always better for a performer to work through a situation directly with their agents rather than resort to an attorney. Michael www.AdultBizLaw.com Click to expand Michael I'm surprised you said that. In business I've found it beneficial to hire an attorney to negotiate for me. Someone who is not emotionally attach or effected by perceived slights past or present. I think an attorney representing Veronique going in as a peace maker and not necessarily as a hammer could help both of them. Derek Hay is in a position to cause great harm to her career, and Veronique does need an attorney to protect her legal rights now. IMO Of course relationships can deteriorate to the point there is nothing left to save and separation is the only solution. Derek Hay is playing with a nuclear bomb. What do you think a phone call to Gloria Allred would do for the porn industry. Derek Hay needs this to end quietly now. Edited by - Shagdog on 3/31/2008 10:52:13 AM [Link]
pornlaw Member 578 Posts 10/05	Posted - Mar 31 2008 : 12:21PM Michael I'm surprised you said that. In business I've found it beneficial to hire an attorney to negotiate for me. Someone who is not emotionally attach or effected by perceived slights past or present. I think an attorney representing Veronique going in as a peace maker and not necessarily as a hammer could help both of them. Derek Hay is in a position to cause great harm to her career, and Veronique does need an attorney to protect her legal rights now. IMO Click to expand This is not a situation that requires someone to negotiate for her. This is a situation where, if it is an isolated incident and the performer's representative understands her health and safety concerns and protects the client in the future, why involve an attorney ? If this is behavior is repeated on several occasions then I would suggest to any performer to hire an attorney to protect her rights. Lawyers getting involved, for the most part, can inflame a situation that might not require it. And your example, Gloria Allred is well known for just that. Be reasonable first, if the other side decides to not be reasonable or litigate, then obliterate. Litigation is war in my opinion, you have to be ready for battle before striking the first blow. Veronique does not require such measures at this time. Michael www.AdultBizLaw.com [Link]
RedClayFH Member 256 Posts 2/08	Posted - Mar 31 2008 : 12:23PM The fact that Veronique said that other girls fear this agent is further proof that the agent is indeed Derek Hay. [Link]

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