call me sick but i happen to find interacial with , say , black midgets a lot more exciting than interracial with normal black guys, i love seeing white women with black dudes they clearly find disgusting, i hate to admit it but i'm one sick bastard , can't help it they should give lil' pimp hand a second chance or maybe bring désir bastareaud back from the dead ....
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Posted - Dec 12 2009 : 11:11AM
Kisten rose's anger was direced at Blinky. Re-read the post. She just forgot to quote him that's all.
Same here but I want to see black midgets gangbanging a white pornstar who has not been with black men up to that point much less in front of camera. All creampies, that is.
But guess who sells more with a smaller budget. In fact it infuriates me when a black actor acts as if he is making an art piece. When I become a director I will specifically instruct. "Here, you are not an actor but just a dick. Act like one."
MrLongStiff, do u know off the back of ur head which "number" of Blacks on Blodes has that? Personally I only watched about 2 scenes of of one of that line. I forgot which number. I have NEVER EVER heard of a girl in porn calling a black man the N word even while fucking. Even websites that focus on black men dominating white women I never heard or saw it. I want to see it as proof for myself. LOL Wargamer! I guess me and u have different views on male performances. Yes, I know how black guys do that in interacial porn. I kinda wish white male performers could say that stuff too to the black girl in THEIR "ebovry" porn. I wish the white male performer could counter all the black male's performances and say "Oh yeah! Take this big fucking white dick!" "Bounce those big black tits for me!" and say the things the black men said to the white women in a porn. Unfortunetely for ebovry fans like myself, white male performances with black women is just fucking... Fucking as in, plain boring sex, just ok let me be totally silent while I fuck you, cum in you, and done. An exception to the white male performer "sterotype" is Khan Tusion's team. A lot of male pornstars seem like they can't pick up hints. I,e no one Tera Patrick worked with seemed to pick up on her hints. Destiny Summers and Candace Von like to strengthen the scene, but unfortunetely most of the time the guy just knows how to stick it in and out.
^ Don't misunderstand - I know the South is not unique in this way, and I hope I didn't suggest that. I was merely commenting on the current climate, and what I have experienced in my meagre existence. Are people pretty open about their racist beliefs (racist jokes at family parties, frequent use of the "N" word to describe black people, etc) in NJ?
I appreciate your honesty. Most people still deny hearing racial jokes or slurs in their environment. I lived in Texas and Alabama over 10 years ago and most white guys I hung out with deny they've ever heard another white person use the N word their whole lives...which is totally not believable.
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Posted - Dec 12 2009 : 11:20PM
I should have seperated Blacks On Blondes from Hush Hush in regards to racial epithets. BUT, they BOTH use dingy sets and unrealistic hookups. Here is the post again FIXED. Only WHITE owned companies like 'Hush Hush' and 'Blacks on Blondes' make IR degrading for both Black man and white women. It's 'Hush Hush' that orders their white female performer to use the N-word against their Black male partners. But 'Blacks on Blondes' use unrealistic hook ups and setups and dingy looking rooms with horrible couches to film the scene plus they get their women to say "they're a Black cock whores" and other stupid unrealistic utterances.
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Posted - Dec 13 2009 : 4:03AM
Yeah that was a typo, LOL (*embarrassed*)
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Posted - Dec 13 2009 : 4:31AM
For me I dont have a racial chip on my shoulder, the point of focusing on this, rather it happens or not is to draw focus away from girls who dont do interracial because it looks sad at times. I happened to think it is realistic If black pornstars can come in and only do white guys, and they can feed you false girl's resume that consist of only black when they doesnt like spring thomas, IT CAN HAPPEN. See porn is racist, BUT it is up to the some of the black people in the porn industry to whip back, and stop getting letting themselves get whipped. The other reason why wanting a girl who doesnt do IR to do it is useless is because we as fans cant stop the racism behind some of those decisions rather it comes from her or her agency. If people would stop thinking with their dick heads for just one minute, lol. They would see that pornstars that mostly do IR like spring, raven black, sara jay, austin taylor, ect. have made a name for themselves out of doing it which makes it more likely that it is possible to have a whitegirl that only does black guys. The arguement puts the spotlight on girls out their that would want to do it, but due to racism and blacks in porn allowing racism leaving them on the outside. It also puts a spotlight on some of the black men in porn being the biggest suckers in the world, because I have seen some titles where they have hired lavish styles for their movie but she only did a solo scene, its one thing to get played by a whitegirl like that, but a sista play you like you a joke? Lavish Styles was getting hired to do solo scenes in black flicks, just like Alexis Texas was getting hired to in IR flicks. NONE of the white men in porn did that with the sistas and brazilian girls that ony did/do black guys that I have mentioned before, so why are they doing it... Jokes! But yeah bringing up this idea puts the spotlight on the sucker side of black men in porn, shows pornstars who mostly do interracial have success, and more IMPORTANTLY draws away from girls already in the industry who doesnt and help them girls out who does, but is on the outside looking in because racist obviously dont want to let them in, but blacks in porn are right at the door to do so, but acting like they are afraid they are going to get whipped again if they do. I gaurantee you that there are girls out there wanting to do only black guys, because also as I HAVE stated they exist in the AMATUER PORN WORLD! www.interracialsexx.com has some.
If porn is racists, then why watch it? lol On a serious note though, I assume you mean porn is racists AGAINST blacks. In reality porn is favoring black guys. In male terms, the term Black is ALWAYS in front of or behind "big cock/dick." Correct if I'm wrong, but a "sterotype" saying all of a certain race has HUGE dicks is a GOOD stereotype. You want black companies and pornstars to counter? Counter what? There is no porn movie out there degrading black men. At least none that I have seen. Although there are TONS of movies the other way around. I mean, you black men have porn movies where a black man fucks a white guys mom, daughter, aunt, niece sister IN FRONT of the son, brother, and nephew. AND you guys have better story set ups, for example: "My Mom Crave Black Cocks." What more could u want? If you are still complaining about the so called lack of interacial porn, then really, there is NO amount of quality or quanitty of interacial porn that could EVER be "enough" for you. I have been requesting and even begging to have a counter for less than half of those movies I mentioned, but no luck. I even had people say they would also buy it. So it CAN sell. But to this day, after years, there is NO "My Mom Craves White Cock," "Oh No There's a Cracker in My Daughter," "Oh No! There's a Cracker in My Mom!" or anything at all that would counter. They have "My Daughter is Fucking Whitezilla" however it's NOTHING like a counter to "My Daughter is Fucking Blackzilla!" The girls in "Whitezilla" are white, so it's not a counter, and I don't know why they bothered slapping "Whitezilla" on it. Edited by - EthanConner on 12/13/2009 9:09:46 AM
^ Stereotypes that might seem "good," that are even embraced by the people they are about, are still damaging because they generalize across a group of people based on race/gender/sexual preference/body shape etc etc, thereby minimizing their humanity and diversity as people. But porn tends to generalize about everyone, and is a kind of repository for stereotypes. All the racism/sexism/homophobia present in all forms of media are magnified in porn.
So you're saying the porn industry couldn't possibly be racist cause you've seen many a movie portray the black man as superior and not enough white porn to counter that, Seriously! and oh yeah the term black maybe in front of big cock/dick but are you conveniently forgetting that the terms big cock/dick are used throughout porn they just don't feel the need to mention race when the performers are white. Anyway we are talking about an industry that singles out making porn with black performers as a special act that pretty much all black performers do and most white/non-black performers don't. Those that do can expect to get a higher fee for participating, plus we're informed that many an agent frowns upon interracial porn and advises against it then yeah there are stereotypes and really only the huge dick one could be considered remotely positive. Things have improved a lot but if anything we should be asking why there are movies made called 'I can't believe you sucked a Negro' not pretending it's a positive thing that isn't remotely derogatory and wondering why there isn't a white alternative. I'm sure one day people will think that titles like that are funny when view like it are so commonplace.
if i recall correctly, krystal jordan USUALLY fucked black guys and preferred not to work with any other races, and said she was only attracted to black men in her personal life (seemed very genuine). she's no longer active though, still want to know what happened to her??
by what you are saying at the beginning, are you implying that the porn industry is trying to say the majority of black men have tiny dicks? I don't get that impression at all. I don't know how u can think that. Unless of course, you're turning things around on your very own, with no other titles to back you up, or any kind of actual logic. You think just because they put "big black dicks" in the title, you think it means that most of them think that most black guys have little dicks? That is not correct at all. They did not put big black in front of it because they think black guys have small dicks. You are saying "I can't beleive you fucked a negro" is a BAD thing towards blacks? Like a Christmas present, it's whats on the inside that counts. I would LOVE a counter to that to the title as long as it has the same thing that's on the inside but reversed. They put the titles like that so that the potential customer can know what he's looking for. "I can't believe you fucked a Negro" in porn title land, indicates that it is about a black man fucking a white woman, while the white woman worships the black man, and degrades the white man who is usually her husband. If I saw a movie titled "Big Black Titted Hotties" would it mean I think most black women have small tits? NO! The same goes for if I saw the movie titled "Big White Titted Hotties." Movies where continious talk about how black men have 100000000000000000000000 inch dicks, and white men have 2 inch dicks in a porn, can no possibly, IN REAL LIFE, be degrading to white men. Especially where the white mans white WIFE is fucking the black man and talking about how her husband can't satisfy her. Of course there is a huge improvement if you are a black man's disciple. They make 20 new porns worshipping the black man, and saying they have huge dicks (I'm sorry but that IS a POSSITIVE sterotype for black men. There is no way saying that all black men have huge dicks can be a bad thing for them) and that white women crave black dicks. And that the black men fucked every man's wife, mom, daughter, sister, and auntie. But there has NEVER been a movie where a white man did the same thing in a porn. There even hasn't been a porn movie based on where the black WOMAN fucked a white woman's daddy, son, brother, uncle, etc. Which I'd also love to see. The question is not "Why do porn titled called "I can't believe you fucked a Negro" exists. The question is, why DON'T titled like "I can't believe you fucked a white boy." "White boy" is just as degrading as "Negro." Maybe more.
WTF? Your mind process is bloody warped. I say Big dick is a common term used throughout porn, you say I'm implying black men have small dicks. Where did that come from?
Well duh!
You're partially right it's so that the customer can find cuckold/racism roleplay it's not subtle. It makes it clear what it's about in the taglines. "I can't believe my wife is sucking a Negro. We live in an affluent part of town, away from any bus terminals. We have a neighborhood watch program. There are no pawn shops or fried chicken joints for miles. How did this black hood find his way inside my home and into my wife's head? Oh God, she brought him here! What will my friends & neighbors say? Please, Lord, let the Negro kill me with his gat so I never find out." If it were just any interracial movie obviously they wouldn't need all that. Frankly imo it's degrading to everyone involved and while the brotha may be the one fucking the chick he's reduced to playing a racial stereotype which is rarely seen as a postive thing.
I honestly don't know what you're talking about, who in their right mind thinks that?
Again you've lost me. How is that not degrading?
Black man's disciple? The way you talk I'm beginning to think that you possibly view all interracial as pretty much based on black men triumphing over whites and somehow any female appreciation of Black men has to be derogatory to white men. Edited by - Anadin on 12/15/2009 6:55:55 PM
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Posted - Dec 15 2009 : 5:38PM
Porn is racist in the sense (Man have I said this way too much) IN THE SENSE that stars have said it themselves they are told not to do IR or "Hold off" from it, last time I check you tell your agent what to do, your agent doesnt tell you. And telling someone not to do black men is racist. There are NO pornstars in pro porn that only does black guys, but they can be found in pro-am porn. But yet there are girls of every race including black that only does white guys. And the thing about the black girls that only does white guys, IR porn with black men & white women are OBVIOUSLY the most popular, because most companies make that type of IR more than the other. So why isnt more of a black female shouldnt do IR, rather than a white female shouldnt do it OR do it only if it IS the most popular, WHY would she get less work if that is the main type of IR in porn making money. Come on now, nobody cant see that!! Sounds racist to me. Im not talking about the makeups of the films. And Im not talking about the entire industry, I HAVE in the past on here pointed towards these agencies and those blacks within the industry for allowing racism.
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What? Are you insane, I did no such thing! You said black is always put infront of the term big dick, as if it was exlcusively used for black men. I said big dick is just a common term used throughout all porn. It is the truth how does that imply anything on my part.
I don't know what to say to you man. You see a title like "I can't believe you fucked a Negro" and all you see is a P.R excercise for Black dick. Ok then!
Now you're getting it. Stereotypes are rarely, if ever a good thing. Yeah you may fuck the girl cause of your big dick but if she believes that stereotype what about the other stereotypes, cause now you've potentially been reduced to a big dick, gun totting, thug drug dealing hoodlum and if you don't have a massive shclong you're now good for nothing, but in porn I suppose that's true for all men.
Okay, someone please correctly me if i'm wrong but to me it seems like Ethan's argument is that if something is portrayed as a positive (In this case, the black man being positively sexualised) than it cannot be racist, because racism seemingly has its roots in negativity, right? Or at least that's what it's implicitly saying, right Ethan?
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Posted - Dec 16 2009 : 6:15PM
I couldn't say. I avoid posts in the Porn Pool that are longer then 6" on my screen or greater then 25 words.
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Posted - Dec 16 2009 : 10:04PM
You've got mail. Edited by - savoy on 12/16/2009 10:48:04 PM
I'm not blaming you directly but it's obvious that the constant IR requests became too overwhelming for her. She was a great poster and we all hope she comes back. If you read her reply, you can tell IR isn't really her cup of tea. People just need to respect others' preferences and move on. It hurts (in a manly way)me that she said she cried over the constant attacks about IR. Why would someone enjoy a scene knowing that the girl isn't enjoying herself? Kristina is usually at her best when she is paired with Manuel Ferrara. The more girls leave because of IR questions, we will be one day left by ourselves. Guys chatting with guys.That will suck
I thought Lil' Pimp's scene in Inseminated by 2 Black Men with Heidi Besk was hot. (If I remember correctly the other black dude was Cuntre Pipes). There was something exciting yet sick about watching this cute little red headed Euro girl sucking an ugly black midget, then getting fucked by him, and letting him deposit his load in her. I thought I was the only one who could possibly enjoy sick shit like that!
Bingo! Sorry I am a little late to this thread. But I have only done a few IR scenes, although I do plan to do a lot more for my new website and company. As for the website thing your right Bill he must have me confused with Spring or Katie.
I'm a Black dude, and I think most White people who watch interracial porn are closeted racists. I quote "I said most not all", but the reason being is I think many WHite people view Blacks as beasts and subhuman 3/5ths of a human being, so when these White guys are jerking off to interracial porn many of them are jerking off to the freak factor. Look at a Shorty mac film and he's paraded around by that White director like Howard Stern Does Beetle Juice and Elephant boy. HE's a freak and to see a White girl, the more beautiful the better, fucking a so called subhuman Black guy is a form of debasment in many peoples eyes. And White porn more so than Black on Black porn revels in debasing females. That's the real appeal of interracial porn that we don't like to talk about, because ask yourself why would a White guy who loves White women want to see his woman with a guy from another race more than he wants to see a white woman with a man that looks like him. It doesn't make logical sense especially when most of the White people on this forum seem to think that the majority of Black guys don't perform as well as most of the WHite guys yet they want to these bad performing Black guys with White chicks. Think about that.
maybe u wouldnt find any porn actresses who fuck only black men but there are plenty of white women in real life who only fuck with the brothas http://www.CANDIDbackSHOTS.com
nope, they are not downgrading the black man. Quite the opposite. They are treating them as Gods and worshipping them. That just seems to be the negative thinking of the black man. They seem to always think as negtaive as they can. They have the best sterotypes yet they try to turn it into something bad. They (white men) sacrifice their wife as a "tribute" and pay the black man $3,000+ as an "offering." (Look up "Gods and how they are worshipped.") They are acting out as the black men are the superior race. To white guys who watch interacial porn, they are the disiples, and are paying to watch their "god." Note in interacial porns themselves, they literally downgrade and downtalk the white men. If anything the white man is treated like the beast or the ugly one no one wants. They always use references such as "little pecker" "tiny dick" etc. How can it be a negative for the black man, if in the porn, the black man is the one fucking the girl!!! While the white man gets treated like scum! And more importantly, how could it be negative, if the girl pornstar shouts out "I looooooove black dick!" Anyways, if it makes you feel better, I talked to some guys and said they wouldn't mind someone doing a porn that was totally the other way around. Not sure though, even in acting, that a black man would be willing to portray himself weaker than a white man, and or have his wife/daughter/mother get fucked in front of him while he's forced to watch. But if it was a reversal to something like "My Mom Craves Black Cock" then a black man wouldn't be needed just like no white man was needed in the said movie. Good luck everyone.
I hear your point, but the black man is being used becuase of the History of this Nation. Why not have Arabs,Asian's, or Hispanics? It is because of the racist sterotypes and other things in our histry. THe white guys who like IR are into humiliation and domination to boot. That is why they love IR porn. There is a humiliation market for Black guys as well, it just way smaller. THere is some JOI and SPH for black guys, but on a smaller scale becuase white guys drive the market.
This might be a dumb question lol, but uh, I don't really watch much porn (at least anymore for the past few years) and don't know what JOI or SPH stands for. What does it stand for? I know white guys like IR humilation but on themselves for the most part. To this day, for how many years of looking at boards, reading erotic stories, seeing IR advertisements for porn, I never once ever seen an IR humilation porn the other way around.
"No look at porn sites like KAtie Tomas, and anything by dogfart, or Hush Hush the Black men are seen as sterotypes. They pick the Black men up at bus stops, talk about them having no money basically they are saying a Black man is only good for one thing. And that is degrading. Hey I'm not saying this degradation can't be found sexy, we know that just the the general degradtion of women is a big part of White male sexuality in general. I'm just pointing out the real reason why so many WHite guys love interracial porn and it's becauses it's degrading to White women." whoa, whoa, whoa, I dind't say THAT part! mrputitbackin put those words in my mouth! look at my ORIGINAL post and you will see I did not say that IR porn is degrading to white women, or degrading women is a part of male sexualy, or anything of the sort!
eh? What movie was that? Do you remember the title? I haven't seen reverse cuckold at all not even in just stories. I want to see that movie to see if you're telling the truth, and to see what it looks like (how they did it). And of course to see the comparison to the other movies with cuckolds. My guess is they go much easier on the black man than the white man. (or how much easier on the white man, depending on how u guys look at it)