^ I remind you the title of this topicnow we already changed the meaning of that with White girls who mostly fuck black guys and extended it to White girls who prefer black guys or have a relationship/date/marriage with black guys it never meant all those who happen to fuck lots of blacks on screen Rayveness for example did 416 movies of which only 26 are IR even considering some mistakes and lack of entries and rising that number to 30 or even 40 , still it is less than 1/10 (one tenth) of her work , hardly a preference Chastity Lynn has roughly half her movies credited (236) yet did already 37 IR movies , which is roughly 15% but if you consider she begun doing IR only in 2010 it means she does around ten IR scenes a year , as opposed to one per year of Rayveness in her 21 years long career , if you consider she did her first IR in 1999 then it'll be still less than 2 scenes per year (26 in 14 years) that is why I said that just doing lots of IR means nothing with the purpose of this topic. many of the names I put in here have percentages over 40% , some of them 100%
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Posted - May 25 2013 : 1:55PM
Here is an interview by KLK in this video a few years ago, This from her Edited by - Infamous on 5/25/2013 2:08:23 PM
^ sorry but I really don't understand what you mean here I said that this topic is devoted to those who prefer black guys not those who just work with them so Rayveness doesn't belong here that's all EDIT you completely edited your post and this one has even less sense the the previous ,KLK has a black boyfriend this was known, so? also what this has to do with my previous post and especially what this has to do with the entire topic , KLK is already counted among those who like blacks so what? Look I try to repeat in very simple English In an older topic someone said KLK only dates Black guys This was unheard by me , I only knew she dated Blacks but not exclusively So I asked for references The guy never answered. So when you asked this(this is a question right? I'm not native in English but although with no question mark this is built as a question, isn't it?) to which I answeredI really don't know why you are messing it all up , with racism and people being upset on girls dating blacks and some other nonsense here, to me it looked crystal clear
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Posted - May 25 2013 : 5:06PM
How are white chicks who didn't do IR not already automatically excluded by what LCF wrote? TBH "white girls who only fuck black men" fetish seems to be just the flipside of "white girls who dodge black dick" fetish, both are about women who supposedly love or avoid black men due to racist stereotypes, both are more about the male than they are about the female(in fact many female performers go from dodger to lover as they climb the porn circus act ladder). To me the idea/fantasy of "girls who never fuck their own race" and then seeing them finally do it seems a lot more interesting, the background assumption for most of us being that these girls hate their own race so much/have such daddy issues that they refuse to fuck a dick of their own race, similar to how a lot of us assume that racism in general plays a part in a porngirl going out of her way to dodge dick of a specific different race, with "white girls who never fuck their own race" being a subset of "girls who never fuck their own race", and "white girls who only fuck black guys" being a subset of that subset. Even so, I find that the idea/fantasy of seeing a girl who may be a racist towards another race finally getting dicked by that race she's prejudiced against is one hundred times hotter than the idea/fantasy of seeing a girl who hates her own race finally getting dicked by her own race she supposedly avoids. Maybe it's because even though we know people who hate their own race, and women who refuse to fuck men of their own race, that kind of self-loathing/self-hatred will never match the hatred of racism(uncle ruckus a great example of its absurdity), and thus the "I can't believe she did that!"/extra-mile factor is much smaller for a long-awaited first intraracial than it is for a long awaited first interracial. Anyhow I have read every post on all 5 pages of this thread and here is the compiled list of established white pornstars who ONLY did black dick: Nyet, rien, nada, nothing. It seems really unfair given that there are established black and asian porn chicks who don't fuck their own race(at least their porn personas don't), and I also doubt that if they ever do fuck someone of their own race it will hardly be a thing, as in a DVD with "HER FIRST INTRARACIAL!!!" stamped on the cover. ________________________________________________ Please ID these girls from PlayboyTV's Foursome show Edited by - hoochimama on 5/25/2013 5:49:29 PM
Keep in mind that that's a fantasy that exists in your head for these girls and probably isn't a reality. Some or probably most of the girls who date/fuck another race exclusively may just have a preference toward that race and doesn't "hate" or is "racist" toward men of their own race. Just because a person is more attracted to another race doesn't mean they "hate" the men of their own race or or is trying to make some sort of statement or has "issues".We'll probably never see many (if any) white females that only bang black men on camera because being a pornstar means that girl is in the business of making money. As long as making money is a major factor girls who prefer to only bang black guys will be faced with the reality that it's tough to sustain a profitable career in mainstream porn only doing black guys. ________________________________________________ Please ID these girls from PlayboyTV's Foursome show Edited by - hoochimama on 5/25/2013 5:49:29 PM
I wasn't trying to start a debate (but it seems you have). I also think the terms "racist" and "racisim" are used too freely in these discussions and really don't apply to most in most cases. Besides, it's very tough to say which girls actually prefer black men without having quotes from the women to back any assumptions up. Plus...I think your definition of this thread is too narrow. What about girls who don't actually feel strongly about being with black men in their personal lives but for the performance of porn likes banging black men on camra? There are girls who don't have a strong preference for black men but it just happens that their fav partners to perform with just happen to be black or they just enjoy working with larger men and their list of favs include a bunch of black performers. So I'd say it's hard to separate "girls who prefer blacks" from the ones who just did lots of IR without know where the girl's head is on the subject.
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Posted - May 25 2013 : 8:27PM
Please spare me the rehash of old IR thread arguments. I wasn't talking about dating/personal preferences, I was talking about pornwork, and I wasn't talking about porngirls who only fuck one specific race, but those who go out of their way to avoid fucking a specific race, in this case their own. ________________________________________________ Please ID these girls from PlayboyTV's Foursome show
I wasn't replying to you personally but there were comments on red necks and North Carolina and so , and I invited to stay on topic , I didn't want to open yet another debate on racism and begin a list of those girl coming from former confederate states who worked with black guys. there's a number of Texans out there who did plenty IR (Bree Olson comes to mind first) but nobody is listing her, with reasons. I agree with you it is very difficult to say who actually prefer blacks , I listed some who probably do and some who actually do (those married with blacks or with mixed kids )
^Yet you still fuck non-black males in your pornwork, despite your personal preference, how does that go against my point? If you went out of your way to dodge white dick porn, turning away good money, wouldn't it be reasonable to imagine that there was more to your refusal to fuck your own race than just a personal preference for other races? Maybe I'm mixing you up with someone else but I was under the impression that for a while you even stopped doing IR despite your personal preference for black males, at the recommendation of your husband. Which only further proves my point that personal aesthetic preferences are one of the least credible arguments for pornstars who discriminate against the color of the dicks they work with. ________________________________________________ Please ID these girls from PlayboyTV's Foursome show Edited by - hoochimama on 5/27/2013 1:28:40 PM
Personal life and work opportunities aren't exactly the same Porn is a job , sometimes enjoyable sometimes not , with all the shades of gray in the middle. I prefer redheads over anything in personal life, yet I have dated black girls, brunettes, blondes BTW I really really like the name George RR Martin gave to Ygritte in his Game of Thrones novels Kissed by Fire ,it's so promising...
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Posted - May 27 2013 : 4:52PM
Why do you make it so hard for you to understand, you don't take time to read or listen in detail but you want to give your own story which is not true. Why don't you take time to read or listen to thing in all. Edited by - Infamous on 5/27/2013 5:08:02 PM
^ did you read my posts? I mean actually , because your replies are completely senseless Apparently you understand my posts in a wrong way , maybe it's me is my English really that bad? Edited by - LCF on 5/27/2013 5:14:41 PM
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Posted - May 27 2013 : 5:16PM
^ I did read your post in all but some of that stuff isn't true, thing when I link something but you don't take time to read or listen to in detail. You see it but you just don't take the time to read thing. Edited by - Infamous on 5/27/2013 5:19:21 PM
^ so you understand something never said, reply senseless in ways unrelated to the topic , delete completely some replies of yours so that mine look like coming out of the blue , then you ask me to read careful your posts (what posts? you deleted completely one and totally changed it) so when I ask you what you actually meant you put a picture? really?
OK let get back on to the topic because we don't need to listen to LFC so let move on. If an pornstars prefer black men in all, girls like KLK, Jayden Jaymes, and Tori Black didn't lose there white fans because they prefer and dated someone outside of there races. They still doing scenes (Well Tori Black isn't anymore) that are non-IR, btw there is an all IR website that have some pornstars or ex pornstars do only scene with black men. I don't know that the name of it but I here of it. Edited by - Infamous on 5/27/2013 7:18:07 PM Edited by - Infamous on 5/27/2013 7:28:42 PM
^ Leya, if you had the choice to only bang black guys in porn would you even want to? It would seem more fun and interesting to mix it up.
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Posted - May 30 2013 : 8:13AM
Marica is japanese, and she has fair skin as many other east asians, but that doesn't mean they are whites, just look out papuan people for example, they look "black", but they are not blacks of subsaharian african descent, their skin color is just an answer for their evolution in a tropical region, that's it. Skin color is not equivalent to race Edited by - blackchild on 5/30/2013 8:17:16 AM
Since when a "black" is only subsaharian ? You mean some are blacker than others? You know it is the same reasoning as the nazis , only Aryans were white and all the other including Jewish , Arabians, Latinos and maybe even southern Europeans weren't
^ I think there are a lot of women in porn who prefer black guys or would like to shoot with them more often but don't or can't because they simply aren't hired to. From what I understand more often tan not the girl doesn't pick who she wants to with specifically. The director will tell her who he wants her to shoot with or offer a short list of options that probably don't include any black men. There's also probably price issues at work. All girls in porn don't charge the same rates. The bigger "A" level stars have a higher rate than the "B" or "C" level stars. A lot (not all) of the studios that shoot all black and IR content tend to be smaller studios less capital to pay for more "A" listers. Certain girls are worth the extra money to them because having them in their movies will make a big difference in sales because they are super popular or have a big following. Other "A" listers...not so much. That's why you only see certain girls mostly only do IR scenes for the bigger high profile studios. That's also why so many girls who haven't done IR usually do their first at the same 3 or 4 top studios. They have the clout, exposure and money to make those first IR scenes happen.
Darryl Hanah did 23 IR scenes out of 236 movies , roughly one out of every ten of her scenes was IR ,I don't know if she preferred blacks , maybe so, she was engaged to a white guy who then she married and who still is her husband AFAIK . She wears a very thick wedding ring in many of her scenes. My IR favourite scenes of hers are that with Jon Jon in My Mom Craves Black Cock, that with Justin Long in Motha who love Brutha 2 and that with Tyler Knight in Nica Noelle's Office Seduction To my knowledge she never played the victim of thugs , she always played a one on one lover most of the times , she's also a passionate kisser. Anyway we are out of topic (again sorry killbill) Edited by - LCF on 6/9/2013 9:05:32 AM
this is true, we do not choose who we work with or even get multiple choice MOST of the time...if we could then id say 9/10 of my scenes would be with Jack or Shane LOL ...
^ The good thing about girls having their choice of guys they'd be happier, probably stay in the game longer, and probably always do great performances...the downside would be it would get boring fairly fast because most girls would only work with the same few guys (or guy).
^ well Aletta was known to be fucking Mr Marcus off set whenever she was working in the USA. She was even rumored to be the one who spread syphilis in the USA because of that and the fact that she and Mr Marcus were both infected at the same time (I can tell this because Aletta herself said openly so in her blog) but she didn't come in the USA for over a year before the outbreak , so she wasn't fucking him at that time, also she was found positive in August , and at a very early stage , so she stopped completely and recovered with no difficulties , she also posted a pic from the scene and the guy she got the infection from and definitely he wasn't Mr Marcus Edited by - LCF on 6/12/2013 8:55:11 AM
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blackchild Deactivated User
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Posted - Jun 15 2013 : 9:38AM
obviously this is a semantic issue, "black" as racial category has been assigned to people of sub-Saharan African origin, is a term used since the slave trade to describe africans, now if you have another version for the word, it's your definition
^ well the same way "white" as a racial category was established to mean Aryans or at the very least Caucasians yet no white complain with the use for the definition for Jews or Arabs , or Latino or Persians Also I always thought that the slavers used a different word than black
I think they should all only work with black men, besides girl on girl, black men with white women is all that really gets me going. Black on white is just so hot
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blackchild Deactivated User
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Posted - Nov 21 2013 : 8:54AM
Honestly, I don't think there is a pornstar (white) who only fuck black guys, no matter if black guys are her preference
I'm pretty sure Dogfart ones are all scripted. For BOB, the girls always say they prefer black guys, and on the Gloryhole Initiations ones they always say they prefer white, I think it's just to go with the market they are geared towards... wasn't there a big deal made out of some Youtube video in which Megan Vaughn says certain things about black guys, even though she obviously works with both black and white?
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Posted - Apr 23 2014 : 8:38PM
Unless you have a personal relationship with talent you have no clue what's what. Diana Prince was engaged to a black man before entering porn, yet waited years to do IR on camera. Also, what is dating. I have dated people that lasted a couple months, but I don't truly consider that a relationship. To each their own, but to me the only thing that counts if what's on screen. If a star does IR and truly appears to love it, that's all I judge. Leya Falcon talked about how much she loved black cock and waited a while to do it on screen and although it's not the popular opinion. Jack and Shane aren't black in my book. Two semi dark guys with circus size dongs does not a black man make. Then again, I don't consider Mariah Carey black either. She looks white, got a flat ass and only waves the black card when its time to accept an NAACP award. Have you seen the Candi Cox glory hole, that is one sexy broad enjoying her 1st taste of chocolate.
"Considering" someone black is different than plain genetics. You can be light as fuck and still be black if one or both of your parents are black. However, my preference is medium to dark. Shane is my very light skin exception because he's my awesome old man friend.
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Posted - Apr 30 2014 : 12:44AM
I hear female talent sing praises to Shane as a performer/partner. I just don't enjoy seeing him in my scenes. We never has a lot of black male talent and lord knows that Marcus made it tough for some on the fence to try out IR last year, but it all comes down to what you like. Since we pay to see attractive females like yourself fuck, I would assume you be attracted to your partner. However, there are just some guys I can't support. Enjoy your time in the industry.
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Posted - May 8 2014 : 7:14PM
The trailer interviews are clearly scripted. However, the BTS interviews and the interviews on the couch are not. Outside of Blacks on Blondes Alexis Ford routinely said in interviews that she preferred black men, only dated blacks and Hispanics, was estranged from the men in her family because she began dating black guys, loved black culture, etc. so it was a bit of shock to fans when she married a French white guy and retired.
^ Well in some of those "true" on the couch interviews there are stars who claimed they have never been with a black guy , although there were some IR scenes already out there are stars who claimed in some interviews they discovered "black dicks" in porn , in some others they said they only dated blacks before entering porn
I ♥ the male gaze (and Palestine). 8737 Posts 11/13
Posted - May 9 2014 : 11:34AM
^The BTS interviews that are filmed on the couch - this would be an example - don't appear to be scripted. Likewise with the ones that are shot outside.
^ I'm currently a member of Dogfart , I've seen many of those interviews some are inconsistent with known facts or are contradictory with other interviews , I'm not telling they are all fake , I'm saying I can't rely on them. However one of them is verified, that of Joslyn James , she said that she entered in porn after her then boyfriend did three (or maybe six can't remember) months earlier ,he was Jon Jon , when she was offered to jump in she said she thought they're going to pay me to fuck with my boyfriend? Well I verified the dates and it was true she entered in porn shortly after Jon Jon and some of her early scenes were with him.She also worked with him a lot either before her three years hiatus during her relationship with Tiger Wood ( another black man) and again after her come back. So even though she didn't say she prefers blacks but seeing how she performs when paired with a black guy , it's easy to assume she does
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Posted - May 9 2014 : 2:49PM
^I suppose it's possible that some of the pornstars interviewed spice things up a little for the intended audience. If you have reason to believe that that is the case you're right to not take the interviews at face value. I'm also a member, and the interviews I've watched generally seemed reliable to me, but all things considered these people are at work and as a result they could be exaggerating their affinity for IR. As for Alexis Ford, she didn't say anything in her interview that she hadn't said many times before or after, including on Howard Stern. Edited by - misspornUSA on 5/9/2014 2:50:21 PM
Yeah, that was my point, I think most will exaggerate for the intended audience. Same as how, if someone interviews a girl right after a scene and she didn't enjoy it all that much, she's not going to just say it right there. I think usually the best interviews are the ones Captain Jack does. Either way, doesn't matter at all as long as they put out good scenes and enjoy the sex.
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