The main reason I was asking about that particular group of girls was to get a better perspective on what fans thought from their own personal interactions.
What I have learned so far is really surprising. Some fans ended up with great experiences, others ended up with awful experiences. And these are with the same girls ! Wonder why some girls' attitudes sway so far from one end of the spectrum to the other, depending on the individual fan. That's just so bizarre to me. I mean, these are YOUR FANS (including many die-hards). As someone in the public eye, wouldn't you want to treat all your fans as courteously and respectfully as possible ?
I continue to encourage everyone's input on this topic who attended any day of the show.
She makes it sound like only two people approached her to sign "stacks" There were literally 8 people in the show pulling roller crates full of photos. Lots of money to be made, but that is her prerogative to not sign and make money.
As for the eight guys pulling roller crates, you see this every year, and then you do not see the same guys the following year. They think they are going to make a ton of money, but they don't.
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Posted - Jan 31 2024 : 10:20AM
So far I have either read or heard accounts of two girls in particular at this year's AVN who were just downright nasty to almost every fan they ran into. Message me directly if you want to know who I'm referring to.
Like I said in a previous post. What is the point of alienating your true-blue fans, the ones who follow and support you the most ???
I didn't encounter anyone who was mean or nasty, just ones who said I am not signing. That is their option. But I agree, what is the point of being there?
Maybe next year I skip it and go to X3, heard nothing but good things about that show.
No, it's the accessibility and interactions with the performers punctuated with a selfie (for a price) are what these cons are all about. As for the spectrum of experiences with the same performer, it most likely depends on the person approaching them. Ever read Yelp or Google reviews of places? Who are more likely to leave a review? Which reviews are you more likely to notice? The supermajority of attendees are casual fans attending only for a day not knowing the people they are meeting beyond a pretty face that they could jerk off to later. The real fans are the ones happy to meet their favourite performers and hand over pay $20-$100 for an autograph, selfie, or the archaic dvd. They don't haggle about prices down to the per autograph like you've seen on this thread.
Given that you have never attended one of these cons yourself, your conclusion based on other people's writings that cons will go away has no merit. Both X3 and Exxxotica attendance continue to increase over the years. AVN's decreased this year due to the lack of cross-over traffic from CES.
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BJTalentSearch Deactivated User
91 Posts 9/07
Posted - Jan 31 2024 : 4:45PM
bigjigglies wrote:Actually that is who I was referring to, the girls who refused to sign (after having no issues with signing in prior years). What made this year different all of a sudden ? My amazement mainly was in the fact of how rude they were. I mean, you can't just politely say no ?
Can you please elaborate on the differences of X3 as opposed to AVN and Exxxotica (pros/cons of each).
Well having been to AEE a number of times over the years as well as Exxotica NJ, I can say I've never had anyone who was outright rude to me or refused anything. Then again, I always try to be polite and respectful. During the pic, I keep my hand about an inch away, so the pic will look like my arm is around her, or I'm rubbing her ass or leg or whatever, but I never actually touch her, and more often then not, she'll lean in closer, or take my hand and place it or say it's ok, grab my ass or something. I've seen others just walk up and try to lift the girl or get into some kind of pose, sometimes without even asking.
I've also noticed that even with the same girl, it can change from one year to another- bubbly and friendly one year, and kind of distant the next. I just remind myself hey, they're people too, and who knows how many jackasses they've had to deal with today, let alone the rest of the con.
Gotta say the last page or so, not getting the hate on Kimmy Kimm... sure I was one of the throngs of people lined up for Lulu Chu, but I was also happy to get a pic with Kimmy too. The $20 isn't an issue for someone I'm really into. It's the girl that I kinda like but 20 seems a bit much for kinda.
Overall I enjoyed myself on the trip. I found plenty of good stuff to eat so we didn't even miss the buffets. Some no shows were a let down but there were plenty of others who were there. Anything negative about this show, Iwonder how much x3 played into it being back to back. Have to imagine more than a few had convention burnout.
I think the Kimmy Kimm thing may have been miss interpreted. On my part there was not hatred. Just a confusion as to being able to make money and asking way more than the girl next to you. If you watch the girl next to you making tons of cash and charging a couple or few dollars and you are not getting a lot of business at $20, then you have to see that you are missing an opportunity. But, to each their own.
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BJTalentSearch Deactivated User
91 Posts 9/07
Posted - Feb 1 2024 : 5:56PM
The bottom line here is that it seems the girls - stars in their own eyes - better be careful. If they keep pissing off their fans by making up excuses or refusing to sign things, they're not going to make any money at all at these conventions in upcoming years.
I wanted to go to AEE this year but unfortunately my 49ers were playing in the NFC Championship game and I was at the game. BTW if anyone went to AEE in the past how is it and what is it like to be there?. It's a 7 hour drive from San Francisco to Vegas because I'm going to the Super Bowl next week and I'll be driving which have no problems with. So what can I expect from going AEE?
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BJTalentSearch Deactivated User
91 Posts 9/07
Posted - Feb 3 2024 : 7:26PM
King, don't hold your breath waiting for someone to answer here.....better find out someplace else. Very few people have participated in this forum despite continual encouragement. Surprising considering the hundreds and hundreds of fans who flocked to AVN this year.
As the entire purpose of this thread was to list the attendees of the show, if you wish to discuss another aspect of the experience, please start your own thread topic. Thanks!
